[Cialug] In-home music - SOLVED

Josh More jmore at starmind.org
Wed Mar 5 16:57:37 CST 2014


Nah, I don't care much about video streaming. Most video is just too slow
for me to care about enough to actually watch, and for stuff that just runs
in the background, I'm good with my popcorn hour box as is.

-Josh


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Theron Conrey <theron at conrey.org> wrote:

> I must have missed the initial thread.  I like your solution and ended up
> settling on the same protocol, as it worked with my TV, an apple TV
> (jailbroken with XBMC), my receiver, an XBOX 360, and a few other UPnP
> compatible devices floating around the house.  UPnP is pretty amazing at
> this, for me the hardest part was finding the server side piece that would
> be reliable followed closely by figuring out what codecs worked for what
> devices.  For audio everything streams fine to the receivers and TVs as
> needed.  Server side I tried a number of UPnP/DLNA servers and settled for
> things I could control and manage easiest.  I tried plex and a few others
> but ended up with gmediastreamer (http://www.gnu.org/software/gmediaserver
> )
> and minidlna (http://sourceforge.net/projects/minidlna/).  Both are solid,
> but I've been running with my minidlna config for some time.  The only
> problem I ran into with simpler servers was a pre serve ffmpeg script that
> converts everything to a format that works for all of my video clients.  I
> ran into this because the VIZIO tv I've got has a crappy native client.
> Have you started playing with video streaming yet?
>
> -theron
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Josh More <jmore at starmind.org> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, they're expandable, stable and have a great interface.
> >
> > They also make it really easy for people to do really stupid things with
> > them.  Just had a conversation with a client about how it's probably not
> a
> > good idea to use their internal secure data store to host an FTP site for
> > their clients.
> >
> > "Just because you can doesn't mean you should."
> >
> > -Josh
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:47 PM, David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I like the Synology NAS boxes, they're pretty slick.
> > >
> > > They have a ton of optional features... even though I wouldn't use a
> lot
> > of
> > > them (i.e. run a Wordpress site on it?).
> > >
> > > -dc
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Josh More <jmore at starmind.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > It was an Amazon Gold Box special.  :)
> > > >
> > > > I did zero research.  I saw a bluetooth audio receiver for $20 and
> > > thought
> > > > "why not?"
> > > >
> > > > I do not transmit with it, I use it in receive mode only.  It is
> > cheaply
> > > > made, the instructions are crap, and mine has two buttons labled RX
> > even
> > > > though one of them is TX.  However, for my needs, it works perfectly.
> >  I
> > > > listened to it for 12 hours yesterday with no drops or stuttering.
>  The
> > > > only problem is when my tablet generates an alert, the sound volume
> > dips
> > > > for half a second.
> > > >
> > > > -Josh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Don Cady <doncady at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ok, why did you choose the Miccus? Do you transmit with it also,
> was
> > it
> > > > the
> > > > > range, or the recommendation of someone?
> > > > >
> > > > > Don
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Josh More <jmore at starmind.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Quite some time ago, I had a thread about streaming music in the
> > > house.
> > > > > > Before that time, I was using LTSP.  It's advantages were that it
> > > used
> > > > > > diskless workstations that did PXE booting so I could play
> > everything
> > > > > with
> > > > > > XMMS with a dedicated interface.  It failed as my music
> collection
> > > grew
> > > > > > larger, I increasingly wanted to spend time on systems that
> lacked
> > > easy
> > > > > GUI
> > > > > > access and moved to a house where most of it was connected via
> > WiFi.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You guys suggested a lot of things, which all failed due to cost,
> > > lack
> > > > of
> > > > > > shuffle support (I did have a kludgey Perl script that randomized
> > > > > > playlists, but, well, kludgey).  Plex was the most promising,
> but I
> > > > never
> > > > > > could get it to index all my files properly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Finally, today, I think I found something that works.  In the
> > > interest
> > > > of
> > > > > > closing the loop, here's what I'm doing:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My core system is a Synology NAS.  It is running the Media Server
> > app
> > > > and
> > > > > > configured to index the entire Audio folder.  Each stereo in my
> > house
> > > > > has a
> > > > > > Miccus Home RTX bluetooth receiver attached to it. I've paired
> each
> > > > > Miccus
> > > > > > to a different Android device.  Each Android device has
> BubbleUPnP
> > > > > > installed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The app not only allows me to stream from each device to it's
> > paired
> > > > > > receiver, but also (under limited testing) to any other
> BubbleUPnP
> > > > > instance
> > > > > > on the network.  It gives me shuffle, zero additional fan noise
> in
> > > the
> > > > > > room(s) and the ability to control what's going on in every room
> in
> > > my
> > > > > > house. Also, unlike when I tried adding my Windows and OSX
> systems
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > mix, there have been no skips at all.  Apparently an NVIDIA
> Tegra 3
> > > > > running
> > > > > > Android has more resources than an Intel Core i5-4200U running
> > > Windows
> > > > > > 8.1.  Can't say I'm shocked.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Total cost for the audio side of things is less than $200.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Josh
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