[Cialug] Fiber

Tue Apr 29 16:29:08 CDT 2014

Based on the last install quote I saw for some stuff in town, I can how
moving can be cheaper..

I'm curious... What kind of speeds would $900/mo net you? We're paying
less than that for 100/50 delivered via fiber (along with some other
services) at the moment.

-----Original Message-----
From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] On
Behalf Of Dave Hala
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 3:45 PM
To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
Subject: Re: [Cialug] Fiber

lol David... that's seems to be a common theme.  I did actually look at a
fiber link in central Marshalltown, but at $900.00 a month, it was a bit
much.

On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 3:37 PM, David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I'm guessing we could run fiber to you, but it might be cheaper to 
> move your house.
>
> -dc
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
>
>> Yes John I haven't been able to get from Smith to my location, even 
>> though its really close, and even with a blank check.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Jeff Chapin <chapinjeff at gmail.com>
wrote:
>> > This list defaults the 'reply' to the list, not a user -- it's 
>> > bitten several of us.
>> >
>> > Jeff
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Jonathan C. Bailey < 
>> > jbailey at co.marshall.ia.us> wrote:
>> >
>> >> ...and I didn't check the "to" address when replying. I must be 
>> >> out of practice in regards to mailing lists.. :-)
>> >>
>> >> Sorry!
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Jonathan C. Bailey [mailto:jbailey at co.marshall.ia.us]
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 3:09 PM
>> >> To: 'Central Iowa Linux Users Group'
>> >> Subject: Fiber
>> >>
>> >> Are you talking about south of Marshalltown? Heart of Iowa has 
>> >> infrastructure running down Smith Ave...
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] 
>> >> On Behalf Of Dave Hala
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 2:10 PM
>> >> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
>> >> Subject: Re: [Cialug] Mediacom to boost speeds
>> >>
>> >> I've been working Iowa telecom to lay some fiber, but they just 
>> >> dont
>> seem
>> >> interested, even If I pay for it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Tim McLaughlin 
>> >> <timothy.r.mclaughlin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > I have heard of of DS1's having issues in areas with bad copper.  
>> >> > I switched to mediacom in ames over a year ago, from CTL/qwest  
>> >> > to get past the 7mbit on DSL.  I had very reliable service on 
>> >> > DSL but  needed more than to 500k upload to work from home i
switched to 50/5mbit.
>> >> > Mediacom was great when it worked, but if i was running a 
>> >> > business the
>> >> > 5 outages i had in less then a year would be too much.  so when 
>> >> > i say you need a carrier for service i guess i mean you need a 
>> >> > carrier with fiber to your prem.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I tried paying a "carrier" for carrier grade service.  I 
>> >> >> couldn't get it. DS circuit service was so bad it nearly put me
out of business.
>> >> >> Run around, BS, poor service, blah.. .It was so bad I was 
>> >> >> actually able to cancel the contract on the service clause.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Jonathan C. Bailey 
>> >> >> <jbailey at co.marshall.ia.us> wrote:
>> >> >> > Yup. Right off the grid. I asked one of the techs here in 
>> >> >> > Marshalltown
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> > he said all of the equipment had batteries, but most were bad.
>> >> >> > Apparently they're supposed to be replaced "soon", but "soon" 
>> >> >> > has been around 4 or 5 years so far.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > In my case, I have a Verizon MiFi (with unlimited data) for
backup.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> > From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org 
>> >> >> > [mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org]
>> >> >> > On Behalf Of Tim McLaughlin
>> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:39 PM
>> >> >> > To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [Cialug] Mediacom to boost speeds
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I think they are powered directly from the grid in the 
>> >> >> > neighborhood.  I have seen large boxes on poles with a power 
>> >> >> > meter and coax cable lines attached. I guessing a ups that 
>> >> >> > would fit in that box would cause more maintenace issues. If 
>> >> >> > you want carrier grade reliability you might need
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> > pay a carrier for service.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net>
wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> I've inquired but really haven't made any progress on a 
>> >> >> >> getting any meaningful answers other than "it power goes it 
>> >> >> >> out, it will
>> go
>> >> down".
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> :) Dave
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Scott Yates 
>> >> >> >> <Scott at yatesframe.com>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> > Good point.  I was obviously thinking customer side.  I 
>> >> >> >> > wonder what they
>> >> >> >> do
>> >> >> >> > for power on their side.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Jeff Chapin 
>> >> >> >> > <chapinjeff at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> Pretty sure Mediacom would object to a customer breaking 
>> >> >> >> >> open their cabinets to add UPS ;-).
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I read his comment as the whole neighborhood goes down, 
>> >> >> >> >> since the
>> >> >> >> Mediacom
>> >> >> >> >> equipment loses power, not just the parts at your home.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Scott Yates 
>> >> >> >> >> <Scott at yatesframe.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > That is what they make UPS units for I thought.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Dave Hala 
>> >> >> >> >> > <dave at 58ghz.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > > Except that when you a pay a premium for business 
>> >> >> >> >> > > service and the power goes out, your modem goes 
>> >> >> >> >> > > offline, because there are no backup power systems on
the line.
>> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Scott Yates 
>> >> >> >> >> > > <Scott at yatesframe.com>
>> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> > > > Say what you want about service techs and the like. 
>> >> >> >> >> > > > Once the
>> >> >> >> service
>> >> >> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> >> > > set
>> >> >> >> >> > > > up it is very fast.  One of the few ISP's that do 
>> >> >> >> >> > > > not seem to over subscribe bandwidth.
>> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Nicolai <
>> >> >> >> >> > nicolai-cialug at chocolatine.org
>> >> >> >> >> > > >wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> http://www.kcci.com/news/mediacom-announces-big-jump-in-internet-s
>> >> >> >> peed
>> >> >> >> s/25714272
>> >> >> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> >> >> > > >> Bandwidth tiers will increase
>> >> >> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> >> >> > > >> from 30/2mbps to 50/5mbps, from 50/5mbps to 
>> >> >> >> >> > > >> 100/10mbps, from 105/10 to 150/20mbps,
>> >> >> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> >> >> > > >> for the same price.  The article doesn't mention 
>> >> >> >> >> > > >> if bandwidth
>> >> >> >> caps
>> >> >> >> >> > will
>> >> >> >> >> > > >> move also.
>> >> >> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> >> >> > > >> Nicolai
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>> >> >> >> >> President, CedarLug, retired President, UNIPC, "I'll get 
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