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[Scott Yates]

Damn linux hippies!  8)


On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 2:59 PM, jim kraai <jimgkraai at gmail.com> wrote:

> where's the linux version?
>
> is it written in guile?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com> wrote:
>
> > VERY true!  Also, in the windows world, be sure to check out this tool:
> >
> > ClipMate <http://www.thornsoft.com/>
> >
> > Really good stuff for working with clipboard data.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 1:45 PM, jim kraai <jimgkraai at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > let me make this clear:
> > > - i know a lot about vi
> > > - but i _really_ don't know jack about vi
> > > - i still ask other people that same question often
> > >
> > > (and i have the same deal with ms excel)
> > >
> > > give me a good programmer's text editor, a good spreadsheet, a good
> > > relational database, and a big native clipboard and it seems there is
> > > _nothing_ that can't be done with a big pile of data
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Crouse <crouse at usalug.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Or "WTH did you type into vi to get it to do THAT?!"  ---- lol, that
> > > could
> > > > be a yearlong topic all on it's own.  ;)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 5:17 PM, jim kraai <jimgkraai at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > That makes me think of this:
> > > > >
> > > > > What assumptions have we forgotten?
> > > > >
> > > > > Most of us have learned habits, and some of us--myself
> included--have
> > > > > forgotten why we still do some of the things we do the way we do
> > them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Practicing the materials on a willing victim or two who've been
> told
> > to
> > > > ask
> > > > > "why" a lot is about the quickest, most effective way of flushing
> > those
> > > > out
> > > > > before we're doing a presentation.
> > > > >
> > > > > I get asked why I:
> > > > > - ls -alrt so often when troubleshooting a system I'm not familiar
> > with
> > > > > -  ps aufwx, then repeat, piping through grep
> > > > >
> > > > > Or "WTH did you type into vi to get it to do THAT?!"
> > > > >
> > > > > What's interesting is that a lot of those details get lost,
> relegated
> > > to
> > > > > muscle memory, and aren't available to the conscious brain any
> longer
> > > to
> > > > > use to teach new people without some forethought or stumbling
> during
> > > the
> > > > > presentation.
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