[Cialug] The Linux Desktop and Window Managers - when is too much?

David Champion dchamp1337 at gmail.com
Thu Jul 25 10:18:37 CDT 2013


I've been using KDE daily for years. I would categorically argue that it
does not suck. It looks good, works well on reasonable hardware, and is
stable.

KDE got a bad rap several years ago when one distro included a pre-release
version that wasn't ready for launch.

-dc
On Jul 25, 2013 9:35 AM, "Daniel A. Ramaley" <daniel.ramaley at drake.edu>
wrote:

> Do not want.
>
> I've been using AfterStep since the mid-90s. I switched away from Red
> Hat to Debian specifically because Red Hat stopped packaging AfterStep,
> and my knowledge of how to properly compile packages to integrate into a
> distribution in a non-messy way was rather limited at the time.
>
> What you are talking about (Gnome, KDE, Mate, Cinnamon, etc.) are not
> just "window managers", but "desktop environments". And they
> categorically suck. Having all distributions pick one of the desktop
> environments and stop supporting others and stop supporting plain window
> managers would be a disaster.
>
> Now, i have a strong fondness for AfterStep. Most people would probably
> not enjoy it, since it is a bit more spartan than what a typical user is
> accustomed to. So, i do not advocate that everyone switch to my window
> manager. But, it is very important that the choices be maintained. Sure,
> the ecosystem is kind of messy, with all the choices that are available.
> That's unfortunate. But it would be much *more* unfortunate if the
> choices were to be taken away.
>
> I'd suggest trying out half a dozen of the most popular desktop
> environments. If you find one you like, use it. If you do not find one
> you like, try a half dozen of the less popular options. Eventually
> you'll find something that works the way you expect a computer to work,
> or that can be configured fairly easily to work the way you expect it
> to. Then use it, and be happy. If, in time, your choice turns out to be
> suboptimal, just re-evaluate.
>
> Trying out a half dozen window managers might take 1-2 days. Those days
> may seem wasted at the time. But finding one you like will save you over
> time since the computer will work the way you most expect it to. Saving
> yourself from frustration definitely pays off in the end. And that's the
> beauty of open source... all the choices, and being able to find
> something perfectly suited to you. In the unlikely event that *nothing*
> is well-suited, well, you can always hack on the code and make it work.
> So far i've not had to do that, but the option is there and that is
> comforting.
>
> On 2013-07-25 at 01:33:01, aaron wrote:
> >I'm a web front-end designer, code geek at heart. So naturally I
> >gravitated towards Linux and the openness of the code. One thing I've
> >always found baffling with Linux, is the amount of Window Manger's as
> >a whole. Personally I like the traditional set-up (Mate and/or
> >Cinnamon), but the gloss of Gnome 3 and KDE 4.x have fancied me
> >greatly.
> >
> >My question to the group is, When is too much? Can there be too much?
> >Personally I think a more unified WM across all distros will help
> >greatly bring Linux more in focus of the mass user base. What are
> >everyones thoughts on Window managers and as desktop users, system
> >admins and such, how does this mass cluster of varies WM's effect your
> >work, does it effect your work?
> >
> >Ponder, respond!
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