[Cialug] Complete C source online - chapter two: The PRISMer of Zenda

Thu Jul 25 09:51:23 CDT 2013

Some required reading before you mouth off like that:

Privacy and the "Nothing to Hide" Argument -
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/07/privacy_and_the.html

Mission Creep: When Everything Is Terrorism -
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/07/mission-creep-when-everything-is-terrorism/277844/

NSA Admits Searching "3 Hops" From Suspects -
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/07/18/2023207/nsa-admits-searching-3-hops-from-suspects

Yet Another Constitutional Scholar Explains Why NSA Surveillance Is
Unconstitutional -
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130714/00490423793/yet-another-constitutional-scholar-explains-why-nsa-surveillance-is-unconstitutional.shtml

Yet Another Constitutional Scholar Explains Why NSA Surveillance Is
Unconstitutional -
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130714/00490423793/yet-another-constitutional-scholar-explains-why-nsa-surveillance-is-unconstitutional.shtml

Former FISC Judge Quit Over Warrantless Wiretapping, Now Argues FISC Is Out
Of Control -
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130709/16554323751/former-fisc-judge-quit-over-warrantless-wiretapping-now-argues-fisc-is-out-control.shtml

Anyone Brushing Off NSA Surveillance Because It's 'Just Metadata' Doesn't
Know What Metadata Is -
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130708/01453123733/anyone-brushing-off-nsa-surveillance-because-its-just-metadata-doesnt-know-what-metadata-is.shtml

SSL: Intercepted today, decrypted tomorrow -
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2013/06/25/ssl-intercepted-today-decrypted-tomorrow.html

Author Of The Patriot Act Says Patriot Act Was Written Specifically To
Prevent NSA Data Mining -
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130612/18210323435/author-patriot-act-says-administrations-claims-about-nsa-are-bunch-bunk.shtml

Why Privacy Matters Even if You Have 'Nothing to Hide' -
http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy-Matters-Even-if/127461

US Constitution -
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution.html

But really, the daily show put it best: *"I think you're misunderstanding
the perceived problem here, Mr. President. No one is saying you broke any
laws. We're just saying it's a little bit weird that you didn't have to." *
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-june-10-2013/good-news--you-re-not-paranoid---nsa-oversight

-Kenny

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Pete Trbovich <
levitating_rock at linuxquestions.net> wrote:

>
> > "I’m determined to find some way to put an end to this surveillance BS"
>
> Oh my fucking God.
>
> I have worked for the government, I have worked security for a government
> contractor - yes, just like Edward Snowden - and this tin-foil-hat crazy
> paranoid BULLSHIT NEEDS TO END IMMEDIATELY! ALL OF YOU NEED YOUR ASS KICKED
> UNTIL YOU GET BACK TO THE REAL WORLD! Time to leave Crazyland, last train
> boarding, choo choo!
>
> You have no idea what you're talking about. It doesn't matter how much
> data the government collects, if it doesn't have the eyeballs to READ that
> data!
>
> No, sit down and really think about it. All of you. There are 313 million
> Americans. What would it take to watch all 313 million Americans every
> second of the day, including when they get up at night to go potty or plot
> mass destruction? That's right, you'd need at least that many people to
> watch that many people, and then since it's a job you'd need 939 million
> people in 8-hour shifts, and that's with no days off. Taking more time than
> that to parse, analyze, and understand every nuance, you'd need an
> additional team of analysts.
>
> Does the US government hire one-seventh of the world population? No,
> obviously not. So, logically, we have to conclude that your odds of being
> watched, right now, are less than 100%.
>
> Is the government superhuman? Is it omnipotent and omniscient? What's been
> the government experience so far - is it capable of world-spanning
> centuries-long Byzantine conspiracy plots, or is it trying to assassinate
> Fidel Castro with an exploding cigar and failing at that? Edward Snowden
> had about as much clearance as the janitors, and if this doofus got his
> hands on half the top-secret clearance he claims, doesn't that tell you
> that the government is incapable of all these Dr. Evil James Bond
> shenanigans? Or else it could have STOPPED him?
>
> Did you know the Boston bombing guys were already in terrorist databases?
>
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/US/boston-bombing-suspects-us-terrorism-databases/story?id=19037892#.UXlUmKqGIx0
>
> Did you know Russia was already frantically trying to warn us that these
> guys were up to no good? We had perfect 100% surveillance of Tsarnaev, and
> it did nothing! Because the government DOESN'T HAVE THE EYEBALLS TO READ
> ALL THE DATA IT COLLECTS!
>
> What about those of you in an administrative position? Do you have time to
> read every line of every access log of every user on your system every day?
> So whose job is it? What do you think, the people who work as sysadmins for
> the government are superhuman people who don't sleep? Do they have access
> to some perfect artificial intelligence HAL 9000 program that can parse it
> for them that the rest of us aren't privy to?
>
> Here's your anointed Washington Post, one of the two chief antagonist
> media sources screaming about this bullshit, back a couple years ago
> interviewing the inside of the US Intel infrastructure:
>
>
> http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/articles/a-hidden-world-growing-beyond-control/
>
> Study all 7 pages of that report, because that's what it's really like in
> there! They're swamped, drowning in data, completely powerless to get out
> of their own way, tripping over their own red tape. If there's any data on
> any of you in a government warehouse somewhere, you'll be dead fifty years
> before some third-world intern get a chance to go back and read it.
>
> When you're watching everybody, you're watching nobody.
>
> It doesn't matter how much data you collect, what matters is having the
> eyeballs to read that data.
>
> Have you seen how massively redundant all the US intel and counter-terror
> departments are? Here's just the Wikipedia category alone:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:United_States_intelligence_agencies
>
> There's the Office of Intelligence and Analysis, the Office of
> Intelligence and Counterintelligence, and the Office of Intelligence
> Support. There's the National Intelligence Board, the National Intelligence
> Coordination Center, and the National Intelligence Council.
>
> And the National Counterterrorism Center, the CIA's Counterterrorism
> Center (yes, they're different), and the CIA's Counterterrorist
> Intelligence Center. And don't forget the FBI Counterterrorism Division,
> which is completely different from the FBI National Security Branch, the US
> Treasury's Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence, and the Joint
> Terrorism Task Force.
>
> And that's before you even scratch the surface of the United States
> Department of Homeland Security. You could study US intel/counter-terror
> agencies for the rest of your life and not come to the end of them. All of
> these redundant bureaucracies generate piles of reports that nobody reads.
> What's it like in your company? Why should government workers be different?
> Do you think they're genetically engineered terminators jacked up on
> Alderal, Ritalin, and Prozac so they never falter their attention for a
> second?
>
> Every summer, we do this! The world is always going to end! This time it's
> PRISM, before that it was CISPA, ACTA, PIPA, SOPA, NDAA, DMCA, the PATRIOT
> act, the CDA, Predator, Carnivore, HAARP, the Federal Reserve, fiat
> currency, and fluoride in your drinking water corrupting your precious
> bodily fluids. How has enforcing all these paper-mill laws gone for the
> government so far? Hey, remember how the Communications Decency Act wiped
> porn off the Internet back in 1996? Man, it sure is a shame you can't find
> any more porn on the Internet anymore, isn't it? All because of that
> all-powerful CDA?
>
> It's always the end of the world, and it never happens and everybody
> forgets about it in three months and nothing changes! Until the next time
> when it's THE END OF THE WORLD again!
>
> The Internet is just fine. It will stay just fine. You'll still be able to
> browse porn and silly cat pictures. You'll still be able to put on your V
> For Vendetta masks and Occupy Wall Street along with the 99%. There are no
> spooks hiding in your closet. I assure you!
>
> The government isn't coming to take your data, any more than it's coming
> to take your guns or make your kids gay Muslims. I'll be willing to put it
> to a bet.
>
> The government is not omnipotent, omniscient, or staffed by the Borg or
> dark-side Jedis. The government is not The Matrix. It isn't 1984 or a Brave
> New World. The government is not the Joker, Hannibal Lecter, or Dr. No. And
> the revolution will not be blogged.
>
> It doesn't matter how much data you collect, what matters is having the
> eyeballs to read that data.
>
> When you're watching everybody, you're watching nobody.
>
> Now take a fucking pill!
>
>
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