[Cialug] [Slightly OT] High-speed DSL availability in DSM metro
bofh at visi.com
bofh at visi.com
Wed Jan 19 16:35:37 CST 2011
That'd be it. Actually stopped by one day and talked to
the field techs when they had it open.
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:16:13 -0600
Dave Weis <djweis at internetsolver.com> wrote:
>
> If the cabinet looks like this:
> http://www.emersonnetworkpower.com/en-US/Products/OutsidePlant/ensys_BuriedDistribution/MultiPurposeCabinets/PublishingImages/CoolPed+%20Splice%20Cabinets/CoolPed+-Splice-Cabinets_1_small.png
>
> They need to either add another cabinet adjacent or if
>there's room inside they can put another DSLAM in the
>same cabinet.
>
> Dave
>
>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org
>> [mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] On Behalf Of
>>bofh at visi.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 3:07 PM
>> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Cialug] [Slightly OT] High-speed DSL
>> availability in DSM metro
>>
>> Yep, I know it's expensive. I was involved in some FTTH
>> design and builds a few years back. However, in my
>>area,
>> most of the pedestal deployments were done 5-6 years
>>ago.
>> What the component upgrade costs for those pedestals
>>would be
>> now, I'm not certain.
>>
>> However, Qwest may not have much of a choice. If
>>Mediacom
>> would get their act together, and LTE (oooh...4G!) or
>>WiMAX
>> deployments move into the area (bugs and bandwidth caps
>> notwithstanding), Qwest could find themselves in a world
>>of
>> hurt on the residential side.
>>
>> Like I mentioned earlier, when the places that the
>>boondocks
>> consider boondocks are rolling out high-speed DSL (7+
>>Mb/s),
>> there's a problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:26:59 -0600
>> Dave Weis <djweis at internetsolver.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I think there might be some confusion as to what it
>> actually costs to
>> >do the FTTN upgrades/installs. We (Internet Solver)
>>have
>> done similar
>> >projects but not on the same scale as Qwest obviously.
>>From what we
>> >have seen, just the equipment in the box on the side of
>>the road is
>> >$10k+, then add in the labor to set the pedestal, bring
>>the fiber to
>> >the area, etc, it's easily $30k on up.
>> >Cities are divided up into distribution areas which
>>usually have
>> >100-200 homes in them. You need to install a box like
>>this in each
>> >distribution area. There is also the problem of right
>>of
>> way, getting
>> >permission to install the box, getting permits, getting
>>power, etc.
>> >After you get all of this outside work done, you need
>>to
>> aggregate all
>> >of the fiber and route the traffic. I've seen some of
>>the equipment
>> >that has been installed to support this and it's
>>absolutely
>> massive and
>> >brutally expensive.
>> >
>> > dave
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Dave Weis
>> > 515-224-9229
>> > djweis at internetsolver.com
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> >From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org
>> >[mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] On Behalf Of PAUL
>>COWLEY
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 1:37 PM
>> > To: cialug at cialug.org
>> > Subject: Re: [Cialug] [Slightly OT] High-speed DSL
>> availability in DSM
>> >metro
>> >
>> > Qwest FINALLY executed on their plans to bring FTTN in
>>my
>> neighborhood
>> >in Ames over the past couple of months...
>> >as well as a change from ADSL to VDSL. However, this
>>was after at
>> >least two years of telling other potential customers
>>(my next-door
>> >neighbors!) that DSL wasn't available in the area at
>>any
>> cost. I can
>> >only assume this was due to lack of available ports in
>>the DSLAM.
>> >
>> > That said, I've submitted an order to upgrade from
>>1.5Mbps
>> to 12Mbps
>> >(the top speed they're offering), due to install next
>> Monday. I'm not
>> >complaining about 12Mbps, but it's a far cry from the
>>40Mbps they're
>> >advertising... even with brand-new fiber and VDSL
>>equipment
>> - all in a
>> >new neighborhood with (presumably) good enough quality
>>copper to the
>> >home to support the higher speeds.
>> >
>> > What I don't quite understand is why Qwest seems so
>> unwilling to make
>> >ANY investment into their infrastructure, even in core
>>areas
>> where the
>> >payoff should be relatively fast.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Paul
>> > KB7VML
>> >
>> >> From: bofh at visi.com
>> >> To: cialug at cialug.org
>> >> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:19:31 -0600
>> >> Subject: Re: [Cialug] [Slightly OT] High-speed DSL
>>availability in
>> >>DSM metro
>> >>
>> >> I just called Qwest, and received the runaround
>>again:
>> >> "With the New Year, they're looking at upgrades, but
>>we don't know
>> >> where or when". As I told them, I dislike Mediacom
>>(left
>> them due to
>> >> the outages), but I'm about ready to leave Qwest--and
>>will
>> drop the
>> >> voice line.
>> >>
>> >> Seems like everyplace I go outside the Des Moines
>>metro
>> area has no
>> >>problem with getting high-speed (7 Mb/s+)
>> connections--metros and
>> >>rural areas alike. Des Moines has become an even
>>worse technology
>> >>backwater than it was.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:53:09 -0600
>> >> jrnosee <jrnosee at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > I concur. I live on the border of Waukee and
>> >>Clive/Urbandale. Every time I check it says I'm only
>>able
>> to get a 1.5
>> >>> connection. (Although I have gotten some reports
>>that it
>> may be due
>> >>to no open 7mbps+ ports free on our
>> >> > DSLAM?!).
>> >> >
>> >> > I REALLY want to drop Mediacom. We loose our
>> >>connection or most of our bandwidth on cable at the
>>drop of a
>> >> > hat. I got home Monday night to .9mbps downstream.
>> >>0.9!!!!! on a 12mbps connection! Does anyone know any
>> >> > outdoor cable monkeys for mediacom? They were
>>supposed
>> >>to come put a new line in for us MONTHS ago and
>> >> > never did. They just keep sending the indoor guys
>>who
>> >>scratch their (butts) heads and say "well, it's fine
>> >> > right now."
>> >> >
>> >> > Seriously... Any takers? $20 on that being the
>>outcome
>> >>of yet ANOTHER mediacom appointment I've got
>> >> > tomorrow morning.
>> >> >
>> >> > At least they dropped my price for all the hassle
>>I've
>> >>had.
>> >>
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