[Cialug] Job Posting - Linux Admin

[Jeff Davis]

Depends on who in the company is doing the looking.
HR often uses a degree requirement simply to cut the stack of paper to
a more manageable level.
Personally I think this is where a skilled IT specific recruiter *can*
really help.

On one level I sympathize with HR people.  It is hard enough for
people in the IT field
to keep up with technology. (i.e. new languages and their
capabilities, hardware advancements, certifications)
I fully understand why a non-tech HR person gets lost in it.

-Jeff



On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Dave Hala Jr <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> I wonder if there is a perception by employers that everyone with XXX
> degree or XXX certification is equally skilled.
>
>
> On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 09:15 -0600, Jeff Davis wrote:
>> I know many very talented IT people who don't have a degree.
>> (I'm sure many in this group do.)
>> Unfortunately that is a difficult thing to quantify and show on a resume.
>>
>> Another aspect of the issue is that having a degree is losing its value.
>> My father-in-law was told in a discussion with a professor at a local college,
>> "we are not allowed to fail students."  The gist of that statement was if
>> you show up to class and put forth an effort, you will pass.  It might not
>> be a very good grade, but you *will* pass.
>>
>> In the last few years I've worked with some individuals who have these
>> generic types of MIS degrees.  One didn't have any idea what DNS was
>> or how it worked.  Another thought a VPN was a VNC/Remote Desktop solution.
>>
>> I don't mean to imply that having a degree is a bad idea.  It's just not
>> a valid indicator that the person with the degree can actually leverage
>> the knowledge covered in the classes they took.
>>
>> -Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Corey Chandler <lists at sequestered.net> wrote:
>> > On 2/26/10 7:24 AM, Kulish, Chris wrote:
>> >> I've found that any degree, bachelors and below, is negotiable.
>> >> My current position wanted a bachelors + 5 years experience with
>> >> Solaris.
>> >> I had about 8 in Linux and AIX combined at the time.
>> >>
>> >
>> > I lack a degree as well.  The only companies who've ever made an issue
>> > out of it have been companies that I wouldn't have been happy at in any
>> > case.  I've found as a result that their position on degrees is a great
>> > litmus test for me of "do I want to work here?"
>> >
>> > Give me a degreeless guy who can get the job done over a well-papered
>> > fool any day of the week. :-)
>> >
>> > -- Corey / KB1JWQ
>> >
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