[Cialug] "Going Google"

[Nathan C. Smith]

It really boils down to who you trust.  

To me, Google is the new Microsoft and will do evil when it suits them financially to do so.  They are a great big Trojan horse right now.  
 
"Better the Devil you know than the Devil you don't". 
 
-Nate


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	From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] On Behalf Of Jim Asbille
	Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 6:04 PM
	To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
	Subject: Re: [Cialug] "Going Google"
	
	
	Everything you just said applies to any software construct.  There is a mindset that the cloud is insecure and OUR infrastructure is safe but I don't buy it 9 times out of 10. 
	
	Companies are drowning in the cost of infrastructure and licensing. IT services are NOT the core business of most businesses so it makes sense to license that out to companies that DO have that as their core business.  SaaS companies are making leaps and bounds on security, HIPAA and the like but we IT people keep parroting the same old mantra.
	
	Blah blah blah lock in, blah blah blah security.  Its happening, better figure out how to make it work.
	
	
	Jim Asbille, MSM
	registered Linux user number 388067 
	
	"Focusing your life solely on making a buck shows a certain poverty of ambition. It asks too little of yourself. Because it's only when you hitch your wagon to something larger than yourself that you realize your true potential." -- Barack Obama
	
	
	
	
	On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Nathan C. Smith <nathan.smith at ipmvs.com> wrote:
	

		My argument against is fanatical, er financial.  
		 
		I like to compare it to Novell and Microsoft in the early 90s.  Novell Netware was the leader and Microsoft NT had just come on the scene.  There was an expensive per-seat licensing scheme for Novell and Microsoft had a one license, everybody in licensing scheme.  This got MS into companies and made them dominant and pretty much killed Novell even though the NT server product at the time was not as stable as Novell.  Now you have to buy MS Client Access licenses in addition to server licenses for every client that connects.
		 
		So right now SaaS and the cloud is cheap but as soon as everyone is on there will be rising subscription pricing and endless revenue streams for providers.
		 
		My advice to anyone getting on, is to make sure they have an exit strategy and understand the requirements to get off/out.
		 
		And I didn't even get into my security and privacy concerns, particularly with Google.
		 
		-Nate


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			From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] On Behalf Of Jim Asbille
			Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 4:30 PM
			To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
			Subject: Re: [Cialug] "Going Google"
			
			
			Is going Google such a bad idea?  Cloud computing can be very beneficial for companies.
			
			
			Jim Asbille, MSM
			registered Linux user number 388067 
			
			"Focusing your life solely on making a buck shows a certain poverty of ambition. It asks too little of yourself. Because it's only when you hitch your wagon to something larger than yourself that you realize your true potential." -- Barack Obama
			
			
			
			
			On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Todd Walton <tdwalton at gmail.com> wrote:
			

				http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2wq4ihfovDQMjFjZDFiY2MtODE2Ni00OTYxLTk2NjktOWUxMWE2NTFlYTgz&hl=en
				
				"Going Google" means switching your business to Google Apps.  C'mon
				guys!  Let's spread the word!
				
				...I found this groan-worthy ad on the back side of this week's Economist.
				
				--
				Todd
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