[Cialug] Coding Horror

[Matt Stanton]

I can't imagine not having a local copy of any website I'm working on 
handy...  Even with my web server in the next room over, I've got a copy 
local to my desktop.  Luckily, I'm not to the point yet where I have 
gone to saving all the content in a database (sometimes it helps not to 
know SQL?).  Our gaming clan uses vBulletin, which is a forum package 
that saves everything (including images) in a MySQL database, plus all 
of our admin, stats, and ban data is saved to a MySQL database, so 
knowing how to dump an SQL database to a file backup is pretty important 
(I really hope our database guy does this, come to think of it).  I 
believe most cpanel-style web host control panels allow you to click a 
button to download a backup of all your databases that are included with 
the hosting of your website, but that's just a guess since I've never 
had access to any of those panels before.  The TCAdmin game server 
control panel would allow up to download backups of the database that 
saved all the information bout the different servers that were being 
administered by it, but we no longer feel the need to pay for TCAdmin 
anymore.

Josh More wrote:
> I believe that the issue here is not keeping copies of code (which all
> developers should be good at), but keeping copies of content that has
> been generated over the years.  Even among system administrators, I know
> very few people who are good at that.
>
> Even I only backup my various sites (web site, blog, wiki, livejournal,
> twitter, facebook, linkedin, super secret mailing lists) on a monthly
> basis... and I'm the only one I know who regularly backs up third party
> sites.  I know I should do better, but really, it's just not as much of
> a priority as generating new content.
>
>
>
>
>
> -Josh More, RHCE, CISSP, NCLP, GIAC 
>  morej at alliancetechnologies.net 
>  515-245-7701
>
>   
>>>> Jeff Davis <me at digitaljeff.com> 12/13/09 10:37 PM >>>
>>>>         
> Ken, I agree with you for the most part.
> The longer you are in the IT field as either a programmer/developer or
> sysadmin,
> I think you tend to develop some of those cross-trained skills.   Even
> then you
> will always be a little better at one, depending on what your talent
> leans toward.
>
> I would expect a more green programmer to maybe not have learned to keep
> their own
> copy of the code, but someone who has been coding for several years
> should know better.
> That obviously will depend on your environment somewhat.  If you work
> for a
> mid to large company your job might be compartmentalized enough that you
> don't even have the opportunity (on the job) to expand into some of
> those areas. 
> Many of those folks will only learn those other skills if they're doing
> hobby IT or freelance work.
>
> -Jeff
>
>
> kristau wrote:
>   
>> IMHO, developers don't usually have very good system administration
>> skills and systems administrators don't usually have very good
>> software development skills. To be successful you either need both
>> skill sets in one person or people with complimentary skill sets
>> working together.
>>
>>   
>>     
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