[Cialug] New desktop ?

[Nick Fox]

Kevin C. Smith wrote:
> Paul Gray wrote:
>   
>> Kevin C. Smith wrote:
>>     
>>> Matthew Nuzum wrote:
>>>       
>>>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Jeff Chapin <chapinjeff at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> I have gotten my self in trouble trying to
>>>>> do things the redhat way on a Ubuntu machine before, and it took me a
>>>>> few weeks to find out what I was doing wrong. (Apparently you are not
>>>>> supposed to use apt-get from the CLI anymore -- it breaks things.
>>>>>           
>>>> huh? since when? If this were true then people using ubuntu server
>>>> would be in serious trouble.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> I use Ubuntu and use apt-get via CLI exclusively. I've never broken a thing.
>>>       
>> Two things that work(*) in CLI under Ubuntu desktop, but not server:
>>
>> dpkg-reconfigure libpam-ldap  (doesn't work)
>> dpkg-reconfigure libnss-ldap  (ditto)
>>
>>
>> (*) My definition of "work" is two-fold here: "work" as in "the Debian way" and
>> "work" as in functionally does what it's supposed to do.
>>
>>     
>
> That seems extremely odd. It should be the same package never mind
> server or desktop edition. dpkg-reconfigure should have worked the same
> on both via CLI. Of course, doesn't work here is defined but I still
> have not idea what we're talking about.
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You may want to have a look at the dpkg log for the packages if this is 
not working. There could be a debhelper bug in the package that appears 
when built against the server kernel. There are several differences in 
the compiled kernel between the desktop versions (-generic, -amd64, 
-i386 ect) and the -server kernel. These differences can sometimes 
produce many oddities with different packages. However, 
dpkg-reconfigure, apt-get install --reinstall will produce similar 
results. apt-get is perfectly acceptable for installing packages from 
repos. dpkg -i will install local packages similarly. The reason for 
these results is they both rely on the package's installation files. In 
most cases if there is some type of user input during the configuration, 
this is delt with with debhelper/debconf and pre/postinst scripts. So 
what does this alll mean for the question after I finish my ramblings? 
It doesn't make any bit of difference whether or not you use apt or 
dpkg, your results for the installation will always be the same because 
its based on the package.

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