[Cialug] Re: KUbuntu question

Fri Jun 15 16:06:52 CDT 2007

Are you using a re-writeable DVD?  I downloaded, verified and burned Fiesty twice but it always hung at boot.  Even switching  CD's  didn't matter. They were re-writeable, so   I tried a regular CD and it worked fine.   Fiesty doesn't like something about the RW.  The CD's are fine, as I re-burned them with older knoppix and they worked fine.
/Lance

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Today's Topics:

   1. RE: KUbuntu question (Nathan C. Smith)
   2. Re: LUG meeting - @ Inplay? (Chris Freeman)
   3. Re: LUG meeting - @ Inplay? (Bryan Baker)
   4. Next Meeting Agenda (Nathan Stien)
   5. RE: Next Meeting Agenda (Nathan C. Smith)
   6. RE: Next Meeting Agenda (david l goodrich)
   7. Re: Next Meeting Agenda (Matthew Nuzum)
   8. RE: Next Meeting Agenda (Nathan C. Smith)
   9. Re: Next Meeting Agenda (Nathan Stien)
  10. Re: Next Meeting Agenda (Barry Von Ahsen)

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:06:33 -0000
From: "Nathan C. Smith" 
Subject: RE: [Cialug] KUbuntu question
To: 'Central Iowa Linux Users Group' 
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> 
> On 6/15/07, Tim Wilson  wrote:
> > I have a pressed DVD of Edgy, and a burned copy of Feisty.  
> For some reason,
> > my laptop won't read the burned DVD (I've tried 2 burned 
> discs with no
> > luck), but it will read the pressed DVD.  I have an 
> external DVD drive that
> > can read the burned disc.  In order to install KUbuntu, I 
> could do one of 2
> > things: 1. Install Edgy then upgrade later.  2. Boot Edgy, 
> but install
> > Feisty off the external DVD drive.  It seems like I've 
> heard of problems
> > with 1, so I'd like to do 2.  Anyone know how to do this?
> 
> Why mess with DVDs?  Just download the CD image of Feisty and install
> that.  Your laptop can boot burned CDs, right?  All packages you would
> need you can just get via apt, with the front end of your choice.
> 

I second this approach.  However, it is possible to upgrade from another
installed version.  In a nutshell, you "simply" get everything up-to-date
with Apt (try not to install extra packages).  And then change the
apt-sources to the newer version you want to install and run apt again.  You
should be able to find several references for this technique with Google.  I
have also been able to "upgrade" from Debian to Ubuntu using this method as
well.  

BTW, is there an ISP or somebody with nearby mirrors for Debian or Ubuntu?

-Nate

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:18:15 -0500
From: "Chris Freeman" 
Subject: Re: [Cialug] LUG meeting - @ Inplay?
To: "Central Iowa Linux Users Group" 
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Well, as regards parking, I've almost always been able to find street
parking at that time. Des Moines is nice that way...

Chris
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:25:01 -0500
From: Bryan Baker 
Subject: Re: [Cialug] LUG meeting - @ Inplay?
To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group 
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The exception has been for nights when a big event is at the CC.
I've ended up skipping because I couldn't find street parking.

On Jun 15, 2007, at 12:18 PM, Chris Freeman wrote:
> Well, as regards parking, I've almost always been able to find  
> street parking at that time. Des Moines is nice that way...
>
> Chris
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:08:31 -0500
From: "Nathan Stien" 
Subject: [Cialug] Next Meeting Agenda
To: "Central Iowa Linux Users Group" 
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Hello Luggers,

Methinks whoever has the access should update the site.  We should
indicate we're meeting experimentally at InPlay this time (that's the
consensus, right?), and give directions.

We should also note that we're going to have a keysigning party.  Then
we can share our super secret info if we ever, you know, acquire some.

Any other agenda ideas?  I hear "lack of agenda" as a commonly cited
reason not to attend.  (I personally like the beer and bullshit
sessions afterwards, so the agendas are usually less important to
me...)

Anyone have any nice arcane knowledge to share?  Stories from the
trenches?  Pet technologies to evangelize?  Surely someone has a
passion for some particular $TECHNOLOGY and they would really love to
spread it to our fertile minds.

I heard someone at a meeting once praising Ruby and/or JRuby --
whoever that was, want to give us a little spiel about it?  Do we have
any rails people who want to demo how to set up a simple app?

Anyone have some neat gimp or inkscape tricks?  Interesting MythTV
setup?  General sysadmin wizardry?  Want to share some homemade
scripts from your personal toolbox?

Does anyone have any *requests* for something they want to hear about?
 I'd like to see if anyone has an especially customized .vimrc or
other neat vim scripts.  (Though that's religious territory...)

Josh More mentioned lightning talks last time.  We could do something
like that if we have a number of people with some small thing to talk
about.  Though I would suggest no fixed time limits, since we're kinda
starved for content.

-- 
Nathan P. Stien
Consulting Engineer / Software Developer
Embedded Systems Electronics and Software
http://linkedin.com/in/nathanstien
Mobile: 309.241.2581

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 19:19:26 -0000
From: "Nathan C. Smith" 
Subject: RE: [Cialug] Next Meeting Agenda
To: 'Central Iowa Linux Users Group' 
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> Methinks whoever has the access should update the site.  We should
> indicate we're meeting experimentally at InPlay this time (that's the
> consensus, right?), and give directions.
> 
> We should also note that we're going to have a keysigning party.  Then
> we can share our super secret info if we ever, you know, acquire some.
> 
> Any other agenda ideas?  I hear "lack of agenda" as a commonly cited
> reason not to attend.  (I personally like the beer and bullshit
> sessions afterwards, so the agendas are usually less important to
> me...)
>

Will Inplay have a nice projector for us to use?  Lazy bones here needs to
check what one should bring to a keysigning party.  Speaking of keys, and
therefore, certificates and being certifiable, is anyone affiliated with
OpenCA?  https://www.openca.org/  I was going to get started with it but I
don't (yet) have a passport.

Somebody should probably give Mr. Stein the keys to the Wiki?

-Nate

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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:32:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: "david l goodrich" 
Subject: RE: [Cialug] Next Meeting Agenda
To: "Central Iowa Linux Users Group" 
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On Fri, June 15, 2007 2:19 pm, Nathan C. Smith wrote:
>
>> Methinks whoever has the access should update the site.  We should
>> indicate we're meeting experimentally at InPlay this time (that's the
>> consensus, right?), and give directions.
>>
>> We should also note that we're going to have a keysigning party.  Then
>> we can share our super secret info if we ever, you know, acquire some.
>>
>> Any other agenda ideas?  I hear "lack of agenda" as a commonly cited
>> reason not to attend.  (I personally like the beer and bullshit
>> sessions afterwards, so the agendas are usually less important to
>> me...)
>>
>
> Will Inplay have a nice projector for us to use?  Lazy bones here needs to
> check what one should bring to a keysigning party.  Speaking of keys, and
> therefore, certificates and being certifiable, is anyone affiliated with
> OpenCA?  https://www.openca.org/  I was going to get started with it but I
> don't (yet) have a passport.
>
> Somebody should probably give Mr. Stein the keys to the Wiki?
>

sigh.  i don't /really/ want to run this, but i've organized small
informal keysignings and cacert assurance events in the past.

barring someone else wanting to do this (please, step forward), i'll send
a few emails out with instructions to prepare for the PGP keysigning.

I've never looked at openca for ssl certs, everything i've done is with
cacert.  is there any interest in doing an assurance 'party' while we're
doing the keysigning?
  --david

> -Nate
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:44:27 -0500
From: "Matthew Nuzum" 
Subject: Re: [Cialug] Next Meeting Agenda
To: "Central Iowa Linux Users Group" 
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On 6/15/07, Nathan C. Smith  wrote:
>
> > Methinks whoever has the access should update the site.  We should
> > indicate we're meeting experimentally at InPlay this time (that's the
> > consensus, right?), and give directions.

> > Any other agenda ideas?

Well, here are some ideas to talk about (and I could talk about them):

 * A while back someone suggested (maybe me, can't remember) having a
planet, so I registered iowatechies.com with the concept of crossing
over from just Linux techies (as cool as they are) and making it a
techie smörgåsbord for all types. My goal isn't to make money on it,
just to have a cool, fresh list of blogs. I'm afraid that if I do it
on my own it won't be received well (people'd be suspicious of it or
something) so if it were a group effort, people might pick it up
quicker.

 * I could talk about creating web graphics in Inkscape... My only
cool trick is how I slice the graphics, since that feature isn't built
in.

 * I just started deploying Django applications and I'm a bit
intoxicated by the sheer speed of building web apps it affords.
Knocking off non-trivial (but not massive) apps in 3-4 hours blows my
mind.

Any of these interesting?
-- 
Matthew Nuzum
newz2000 on freenode

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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 19:45:21 -0000
From: "Nathan C. Smith" 
Subject: RE: [Cialug] Next Meeting Agenda
To: 'Central Iowa Linux Users Group' 
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> sigh.  i don't /really/ want to run this, but i've organized small
> informal keysignings and cacert assurance events in the past.
> 
> barring someone else wanting to do this (please, step 
> forward), i'll send
> a few emails out with instructions to prepare for the PGP keysigning.
> 
> I've never looked at openca for ssl certs, everything i've 
> done is with
> cacert.  is there any interest in doing an assurance 'party' 
> while we're
> doing the keysigning?
>   --david

Oops, CACERT was the one I was trying to think of.

-Nate

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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:54:19 -0500
From: "Nathan Stien" 
Subject: Re: [Cialug] Next Meeting Agenda
To: "Central Iowa Linux Users Group" 
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On 6/15/07, Matthew Nuzum  wrote:
> Well, here are some ideas to talk about (and I could talk about them):
>
>  * A while back someone suggested (maybe me, can't remember) having a
> planet, so I registered iowatechies.com with the concept of crossing
> over from just Linux techies (as cool as they are) and making it a
> techie smörgåsbord for all types. My goal isn't to make money on it,
> just to have a cool, fresh list of blogs.

Hmm.  Show of hands -- who in the LUG has a tech blog?  I keep meaning
to start one, but I generally end up spending my mental tech bandwidth
on things that get me paid.  (Though perhaps a good tech blog would be
a nice credibility-builder for consulting services...)

>  * I could talk about creating web graphics in Inkscape... My only
> cool trick is how I slice the graphics, since that feature isn't built
> in.

I definitely would like to see this!  If you're willing, that would be great.

>  * I just started deploying Django applications and I'm a bit
> intoxicated by the sheer speed of building web apps it affords.
> Knocking off non-trivial (but not massive) apps in 3-4 hours blows my
> mind.

Hells yes.  I have been wanting to check Django out for a while.  As I
have previously indicated on the list, I'm a hardcore python sort of
guy.

I keep trying to get other people to talk, so maybe I need to stand up
and give a spiel myself.  I'll try to think of something interesting.

-- 
Nathan P. Stien
Consulting Engineer / Software Developer
Embedded Systems Electronics and Software
http://linkedin.com/in/nathanstien
Mobile: 309.241.2581

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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:23:22 -0500
From: Barry Von Ahsen 
Subject: Re: [Cialug] Next Meeting Agenda
To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group 
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Nathan Stien wrote:
> Hello Luggers,
> 
> Methinks whoever has the access should update the site.  We should
> indicate we're meeting experimentally at InPlay this time (that's the
> consensus, right?), and give directions.
> 

location updated

-barry

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