[Cialug] digital cable tv cards

Sun Dec 2 18:32:14 CST 2007

Channels 52-69 is this "700 MHz spectrum auction" that you see in the
news a lot (specifically Google's involvement and Verizon's lawsuit).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/700_Mhz_wireless_spectrum_auction

Colin

On Dec 2, 2007 6:06 PM, Tim Wilson <tim_linux at wilson-home.com> wrote:
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> On Dec 2, 2007 5:05 PM, Nathan C. Smith <nathan.smith at ipmvs.com> wrote:
> > I have basic analog cable too.
> >
> > The digital conversion means the networks can squeeze the signals they
> send
> > now (in our area, kcci, who, KDIN, etc) into a skinnier slice of
> bandwidth.
> > This gives the extra bandwidth back to the government so they can
> re-auction
> > the bandwidth or reserve it for Government/Emergency use etc.  I'm not
> sure
> > what they are doing with the bandwidth they back.  It means that more
> > channels could be offered OTA, but without demand and a profit motive we
> are
> > probably stuck with the same five or six OTA channels we have now.
> >
> > Anybody know what they are using the reclaimed bandwidth for?
>
> The way I understand it, all DT channels are in the UHF band for now.  When
> everything is converted over, they will move the DT channels back to VHF,
> and the upper band of UHF will be (and some already has been) sold off.
> Remember when UHF used to go to 83?  It doesn't go that high anymore (I
> think it is somewhere in the 50s).  And after everything is DT, UHF won't go
> that high.  At least, that's the way I understand it.
>
>
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Nate
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: neal daringer [mailto:admin at c0wzftp.com]
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 4:32 PM
> > > To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> > > Subject: Re: [Cialug] digital cable tv cards
> > >
> > > i know there is a difference between analog and digital and
> > > HD. i've used dialup before and had a cell phone before they
> > > were even 10% of what they are today (i.e. before callerid).
> > > i just wish that people would take the time to investigate
> > > what they are shopping for before they buy it. would help
> > > keep a lot of the misleading crap off the market (if noone is
> > > buying it then why sell it?). as it stands i only have the
> > > ultra-basic cable plan (network and local tv plus the
> > > shopping and religous channels), so if i can get all the same
> > > channels that i get now OTA in digital, then why should i
> > > stick with cable? i'm willing to shell out a few hundred
> > > bucks now for a good antenna and pick up everything i need in
> > > digital if it has its perks if catv wont be switching to digital.
> > >
> > > p.s. i emailed the fcc's 'digital changeover fyi list' asking
> > > about the necessity of digital readiness for catv. should be
> > > interesting to see what they say.
> > >
> > >
> > > Nathan C. Smith wrote:
> > > > I'm not sure what path the signal actually takes, but it
> > > becomes OTA
> > > > (over the air) digital at the point of transmission.
> > > >
> > > > The cable industry is (trying to make) making a big point
> > > out of the
> > > > fact that if you have cable, you are already prepared for
> > > the change
> > > > and when the date rolls around you don't need to do anything.
> > > >
> > > > Also, even though the OTA signal will be digital, it
> > > doesn't mean that
> > > > it will be HD.  I think this confuses a lot of people, in
> > > addition to
> > > > the fact that there are different levels of HD.  I think this whole
> > > > transmission changeover is going to make some dishonest
> > > people a lot
> > > > of money as they take advantage of all the confusion to
> > > sell gimmicks
> > > > to make digital somehow HD etc. etc.
> > > >
> > > > BTW  to Neal: I don't remember when you got back, but I'm
> > > real glad you did.
> > > > And thank-you for your service.
> > > >
> > > > -Nate
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: neal daringer [mailto:admin at c0wzftp.com]
> > > >> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 3:51 PM
> > > >> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Cialug] digital cable tv cards
> > > >>
> > > >> how will cable companies get analog broadcasts then if
> > > there are no
> > > >> analog originating stations?
> > > >>
> > > >> will they demodulate it(or whatever its called) to make it analog
> > > >> again?
> > > >>
> > > >> Nathan C. Smith wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> What do you mean?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> If you are using analog or digital cable now the change
> > > to digital
> > > >>> signals will make no difference to you.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The changeover is for analog broadcast over-the-air signals only.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I don't know about you but I intend to continue using my
> > > TVs, Tivos
> > > >>> and MythTVs with analog cable until they stop offering the
> > > >>>
> > > >> service or
> > > >>
> > > >>> I get addicted to HD.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -Nate
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>>> From: neal daringer [mailto:admin at c0wzftp.com ]
> > > >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 9:39 PM
> > > >>>> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> > > >>>> Subject: [Cialug] digital cable tv cards
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> i know a lot of you are not big cable users. but i was
> > > >>>>
> > > >> wondering if
> > > >>
> > > >>>> any of you have prepared for the digital changeover yet
> > > >>>>
> > > >> for your pc
> > > >>
> > > >>>> tv tuners?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> i'm trying to figure something out so that i can keep on
> > > >>>>
> > > >> keeping on
> > > >>
> > > >>>> with my recordings. any help would be nice.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> i found this one that looks promising for linux.
> > > >>>> http://www.pchdtv.com/hdtv_linux.html
> > > >>>> heard about it?
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