[Cialug] So who didn't see this one coming?

Fri Nov 17 15:20:14 CST 2006

Groupwise was kind of the same thing as exchange.  Email, Tasks, Calendar.
It wasn't bad.  Between Notes and Exchange though it's nearly vanished.  Not
that I think either is better.  I really liked groupwise more, but Exchange
and Notes always seemed to be more popular.

-G

On 11/17/06, Carl Olsen <carl-olsen at mchsi.com> wrote:
>
> They had some kind of collaboration software that a lot of people were
> running and I can't remember the name of it.  I think it had an email
> client.  I think that was commonly found on Windows.  Was it "Groupwise"
> or
> something like that?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] On
> Behalf
> Of David Champion
> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 1:56 PM
> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Cialug] So who didn't see this one coming?
>
> I know this is kind of a conspiracy-theory leap... but Caldera was a
> spin-off from Novell... -> Caldera becomes SCO -> Microsoft helps SCO in
> the IBM case... -> Microsft partners with Suse / Novell...
>
> BTW, Novell didn't really run on the Windows OS. You installed a Netware
> client in Windows so you could access the shares. The Novell OS usually
> ran on a dedicated file server. You could run a non-dedicated server
> back in the Netware 386 days, and run a Win3.1 desktop on top of
> Netware, but that made things slow and crappy in both Netware and Windows.
>
> There were other options, but Netware was the only network OS that was
> reasonably priced and stable enough. Netware 3/4 servers would run for
> years without anyone ever logging in to the console.
>
> IMHO Novell screwed up when they stopped development on their Unix-based
> Netware replacement.
>
> -dc
>
> carl-olsen at mchsi.com wrote:
> > I remember when NetWare was very popular and Microsoft and Novell were
> doing a lot of integration.  There seems to be some kind of historic
> relationship between these two.  I don't know much except I remember
> NetWare
> was big when I first started using Windows and it ran on a lot of Windows
> operating systems.
> >
> >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: "Brandon Griffis" <brandongriffis at gmail.com>
> >> I doubt they're going after any projects.  In everything I've read from
> >> Balmer he's not once used the word patient or copyright, it's always
> "IP".
> >> I think we're just talking about FUD threats.  The problem is that
> Novell
> >> has lent those threats credibility by making this deal.
> >>
> >> -G
> >>
> >> On 11/17/06, Tony Jeffries <ajeffri at loopysite.org> wrote:
> >>> On Fri, November 17, 2006 10:24, Daniel.Juliano at wellsfargo.com wrote:
> >>> <snip>
> >>>> My concern is Microsoft might never attack property in The Kernel
> (tm),
> >>>> as wayyy too many companies are involved in it's development, but it
> >>>> would be relatively easy to attack some of the key applications that
> >>>> make running linux worthwhile.
> >>> My thought is that, as someone else said, they're going after Samba,
> or
> >>> that they're going after OpenOffice.
> >>>
> >>> Those are the two I'm concerned about.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Tony Jeffries
> >>> ajeffri at loopysite.org
> >>> n0nro at arrl.net
> >>>
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> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Subject:
> > Re: [Cialug] So who didn't see this one coming?
> > From:
> > "Brandon Griffis" <brandongriffis at gmail.com>
> > Date:
> > Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:42:24 +0000
> > To:
> > "Central Iowa Linux Users Group" <cialug at cialug.org>
> >
> > To:
> > "Central Iowa Linux Users Group" <cialug at cialug.org>
> >
> >
> > I doubt they're going after any projects.  In everything I've read from
> > Balmer he's not once used the word patient or copyright, it's always
> "IP".
> > I think we're just talking about FUD threats.  The problem is that
> Novell
> > has lent those threats credibility by making this deal.
> >
> > -G
> >
> > On 11/17/06, Tony Jeffries <ajeffri at loopysite.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, November 17, 2006 10:24, Daniel.Juliano at wellsfargo.com wrote:
> >> <snip>
> >> > My concern is Microsoft might never attack property in The Kernel
> (tm),
> >> > as wayyy too many companies are involved in it's development, but it
> >> > would be relatively easy to attack some of the key applications that
> >> > make running linux worthwhile.
> >>
> >> My thought is that, as someone else said, they're going after Samba, or
> >> that they're going after OpenOffice.
> >>
> >> Those are the two I'm concerned about.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tony Jeffries
> >> ajeffri at loopysite.org
> >> n0nro at arrl.net
> >>
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