[Cialug] pdf thing (again)

Dave J. Hala Jr. dave at 58ghz.net
Fri Nov 3 09:45:56 CST 2006


Its RHEL webserver. Generally speaking, data will be entered and
retrieved from a database using a dynamically generated HTML form
written in PHP 4.3.x. The forms will be used over and over, but may have
minor revisions once or twice a year.


On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 09:31, Nathan C. Smith wrote:
> I'm going to come out and ask - what platform will the work ultimately be
> done on?  On a Windows computer or on a server using a web interface?
> 
> Are the forms consistent?  - the same forms over and over, or will they
> frequently change?
> 
> The PDF system nuance sells is supposed to be very good at this kind of
> stuff - for end users on Windows.  I don't know if the free and tiny
> foxreader can fill forms.
> 
> BTW - I have had experience with the PDF-tools stuff and it *is* excellent.
> 
> -Nate
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dave J. Hala Jr. [mailto:dave at 58ghz.net] 
> > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:03 AM
> > To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [Cialug] pdf thing (again)
> > 
> > 
> > Basically what I did when trying out pdf-tools' form filling 
> > tool was to load the pdf form into acrobat professional. Then 
> > I defined the data fields and saved the form.
> > 
> > To fill the form, I read the data from the database, and 
> > passed the information to the form filling tool on the 
> > command line. Their tool took the original pdf and the data 
> > and created a new, filled out pdf. It was slick and it worked 
> > well. Smoking fast, with almost no overhead.
> > 
> > I'm not against forking out $2k for pdf-tools's software. 
> > However, I have all dual cpu machines and possibly a quad 
> > coming in the future. That will raise my licensing fees 
> > considerably. Don't get me wrong, pdf-tools is well worth the 
> > money and they have excellant support. However, if I can find 
> > a lower cost alternative, I could be more competitive.
> > 
> > :) Dave
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 07:42, carl-olsen at mchsi.com wrote:
> > > From what I see, it looks like it would be possible to 
> > build the FDF 
> > > file using PHP and data from a database.  I'm not too familiar with 
> > > running command line instructions using PHP, but I'm sure 
> > that its not 
> > > difficult.  I'm wondering if I can create the form using 
> > Acrobat and 
> > > then use this tool to fill in the form fields, or whether 
> > the PDF has 
> > > to be created using this tool.  I know how to create a form 
> > with fill 
> > > in fields using Acrobat, but I'd be lost if I had to create 
> > one from a 
> > > command line.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > I know how to capture form fields from a PDF and put the 
> > data into a 
> > > database, but I never could figure out how to populate the 
> > fields from 
> > > the database later when I wanted to print out a copy of a form that 
> > > someone filled out using a web browser.  The options I 
> > found at that 
> > > time were very expensive.  I looked at the IRS website and 
> > found the 
> > > tool they were using was about half the price of the Adobe 
> > tools, but 
> > > it was still several thousand dollars.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Carl Olsen
> > > 
> > > Web Developer
> > > 
> > > Drake University
> > > 
> > > 
> > >         -------------- Original message from "Dave J. Hala Jr."
> > >         <dave at 58ghz.net>: --------------
> > >         
> > >         
> > >         > I've been experimenting with a trial version of PDF Tools
> > >         form filling 
> > >         > tool. (www.pdf-tools.com) It takes an existing pdf, and
> > >         allows you to 
> > >         > insert data into the form fields in the pdf. 
> > >         > 
> > >         > It works awesome. However, its priced by CPU. 
> > This makes it
> > >         a little 
> > >         > pricey on a dual cpu server or a dual core server. I'm
> > >         looking for a 
> > >         > lower cost alternative. 
> > >         > 
> > >         > I found something called pdftk or PDF Toolkit 
> > >         >
> > >         
> > http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/04/17/1943230&tid=47
> > >         > 
> > >         > It seems to be the solution I'm looking for. Has 
> > anyone had
> > >         any 
> > >         > experience with it before? 
> > >         > 
> > >         > 
> > >         > :) Dave 
> > >         > 
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