[Cialug] Re: Cialug Digest, Vol 19, Issue 2
Carter McCann
cmccann at novacoast.com
Fri Nov 3 09:20:19 CST 2006
My name is Carter McCann. I am the Midwest Client Executive for Novacoast. We have been Novell's partner of the year three of the last four years. Could i attend a meeting and introduce myself, my company and what's new from Novell?
Carter McCann, CNS,NCTS
Novacoast, Inc
Midwest Client Executive
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Today's Topics:
1. MSFT to partner with Novell (Barry Von Ahsen)
2. Re: MSFT to partner with Novell (Don Cady)
3. RE: MSFT to partner with Novell (Carl Olsen)
4. Re: MSFT to partner with Novell (Chris K.)
5. RE: MSFT to partner with Novell (Carl Olsen)
6. Re: postfix domain aliasing (john doe)
7. pdf thing (again) (Dave J. Hala Jr.)
8. Re: pdf thing (again) (carl- olsen at mchsi.com)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 16:38:32 - 0600
From: Barry Von Ahsen <barry at vonahsen.com>
Subject: [Cialug] MSFT to partner with Novell
To: Central Iowa Linux Group <cialug at cialug.org>
Message- ID: <454A7368.6000908 at vonahsen.com>
Content- Type: text/plain; charset=ISO- 8859- 1; format=flowed
the end is nigh! repent!
- barry
>From Reuters:
"SEATTLE, Nov 2 (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp. MSFT Chief
Executive Steve Ballmer will make a major technology industry
announcement later on Thursday, the company said.
A news conference will take place at 2 p.m. PST/2200 GMT in
San Francisco. Microsoft did not disclose more details about
the content of the announcement."
14:04 11/02 *WSJ: Microsoft Entering Partnership With Novell - Sources >
14:07 11/02 *WSJ: Microsoft To Offer Sales Support For Novell System < >
By Robert A. Guth
Of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) is entering an unusual partnership with Novell Inc.
(NOVL) that gives a boost to the Linux operating system, a rival to the
software giant's Windows software, people familiar with the companies told
The
Wall Street Journal Thursday.
Under the pact, which isn't final, Microsoft will offer sales support of
Suse
Linux, a version of the operating system sold by Novell. The two companies
have
also agreed to develop technologies to make it easier for users to run both
Suse Linux and Microsoft's Windows on their computers. The two companies are
expected to announce details of their plan Thursday at a press conference in
San Francisco.
In addition, Microsoft won't assert rights over patents over software
technology that may be incorporated into Suse Linux, the people said.
Businesses that use Linux have long worried that Microsoft would one day
file
patent infringement suits against sellers of the rival software.
(This story and related background material will be available on The Wall
Street Journal Web site, WSJ.com.)
The pact marks an unusual level of cooperation between two longtime
rivals.
Microsoft has been battling all versions of Linux, but has faced pressure to
assure that customers can run both Windows and Linux without problems.
By forging a peace pact with one seller of Linux, Microsoft could raise
pressure on Red Hat Inc. (RHAT), the leading provider of Linux, and a Novell
rival. Last week, Oracle Corp. (ORCL) announced that it would start selling
its
own support for Red Hat's version of Linux, a plan that undercuts Red Hat's
own
business, which is based on providing support and maintenance. Red Hat's
shares
fell sharply after that announcement.
Novell, originally known for a network operating system called NetWare,
has
also scrapped with Microsoft over sales of desktop application programs
after
Novell bought Wordperfect Corp. and rights to the Quattro Pro spreadsheet
for
more than $1.4 billion. Partly because of stiff competition from Microsoft,
Novell later sold those products for about $170 million; it filed an
antitrust
suit in 2004 against Microsoft, seeking damages related to the tactics
Microsoft used in the applications- software market.
Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Ballmer is in San Francisco to announce
the
pact. Spokesmen for Microsoft and Novell couldn't be reached for comment.
--
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:32:56 - 0600
From: "Don Cady" <donc5 at mchsi.com>
Subject: Re: [Cialug] MSFT to partner with Novell
To: "Central Iowa Linux Users Group" <cialug at cialug.org>
Message- ID: <001d01c6fed7$3b96a530$6701a8c0 at any7xu043c9b9i>
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Anything our local Novell partners can share?....:|
Don
> the end is nigh! repent!
>
> - barry
>
>>From Reuters:
> "SEATTLE, Nov 2 (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp. MSFT Chief
> Executive Steve Ballmer will make a major technology industry
> announcement later on Thursday, the company said.
> A news conference will take place at 2 p.m. PST/2200 GMT in
> San Francisco. Microsoft did not disclose more details about
> the content of the announcement."
>
> 14:04 11/02 *WSJ: Microsoft Entering Partnership With Novell - Sources >
> 14:07 11/02 *WSJ: Microsoft To Offer Sales Support For Novell System < >
>
> By Robert A. Guth
> Of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
> Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) is entering an unusual partnership with Novell
> Inc.
> (NOVL) that gives a boost to the Linux operating system, a rival to the
> software giant's Windows software, people familiar with the companies told
> The
> Wall Street Journal Thursday.
> Under the pact, which isn't final, Microsoft will offer sales support of
> Suse
> Linux, a version of the operating system sold by Novell. The two companies
> have
> also agreed to develop technologies to make it easier for users to run
> both
> Suse Linux and Microsoft's Windows on their computers. The two companies
> are
> expected to announce details of their plan Thursday at a press conference
> in
> San Francisco.
> In addition, Microsoft won't assert rights over patents over software
> technology that may be incorporated into Suse Linux, the people said.
> Businesses that use Linux have long worried that Microsoft would one day
> file
> patent infringement suits against sellers of the rival software.
> (This story and related background material will be available on The Wall
> Street Journal Web site, WSJ.com.)
> The pact marks an unusual level of cooperation between two longtime
> rivals.
> Microsoft has been battling all versions of Linux, but has faced pressure
> to
> assure that customers can run both Windows and Linux without problems.
> By forging a peace pact with one seller of Linux, Microsoft could raise
> pressure on Red Hat Inc. (RHAT), the leading provider of Linux, and a
> Novell
> rival. Last week, Oracle Corp. (ORCL) announced that it would start
> selling
> its
> own support for Red Hat's version of Linux, a plan that undercuts Red
> Hat's
> own
> business, which is based on providing support and maintenance. Red Hat's
> shares
> fell sharply after that announcement.
> Novell, originally known for a network operating system called NetWare,
> has
> also scrapped with Microsoft over sales of desktop application programs
> after
> Novell bought Wordperfect Corp. and rights to the Quattro Pro spreadsheet
> for
> more than $1.4 billion. Partly because of stiff competition from
> Microsoft,
> Novell later sold those products for about $170 million; it filed an
> antitrust
> suit in 2004 against Microsoft, seeking damages related to the tactics
> Microsoft used in the applications- software market.
> Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Ballmer is in San Francisco to announce
> the
> pact. Spokesmen for Microsoft and Novell couldn't be reached for comment.
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> "But when you're passionate you can do anything."
> Michael Milken
> --
> Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion
> http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:45:17 - 0600
From: "Carl Olsen" <carl- olsen at mchsi.com>
Subject: RE: [Cialug] MSFT to partner with Novell
To: "'Central Iowa Linux Users Group'" <cialug at cialug.org>
Message- ID: <003f01c6fed8$f3386bf0$1c00a8c0 at workstation8>
Content- Type: text/plain; charset="us- ascii"
I have two machines running Suse Linux and five running Microsoft Windows.
I started using Suse Linux before Novell bought it and I started using it
because it supports ASP.NET. I don't know about anyone else, but this is
good news to me. It means all the programming I've been learning will
continue to be supported and improved.
Carl
----- Original Message-----
From: cialug- bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug- bounces at cialug.org] On Behalf
Of Barry Von Ahsen
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 4:39 PM
To: Central Iowa Linux Group
Subject: [Cialug] MSFT to partner with Novell
the end is nigh! repent!
- barry
>From Reuters:
"SEATTLE, Nov 2 (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp. MSFT Chief
Executive Steve Ballmer will make a major technology industry
announcement later on Thursday, the company said.
A news conference will take place at 2 p.m. PST/2200 GMT in
San Francisco. Microsoft did not disclose more details about
the content of the announcement."
14:04 11/02 *WSJ: Microsoft Entering Partnership With Novell - Sources >
14:07 11/02 *WSJ: Microsoft To Offer Sales Support For Novell System < >
By Robert A. Guth
Of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) is entering an unusual partnership with Novell Inc.
(NOVL) that gives a boost to the Linux operating system, a rival to the
software giant's Windows software, people familiar with the companies told
The
Wall Street Journal Thursday.
Under the pact, which isn't final, Microsoft will offer sales support of
Suse
Linux, a version of the operating system sold by Novell. The two companies
have
also agreed to develop technologies to make it easier for users to run both
Suse Linux and Microsoft's Windows on their computers. The two companies are
expected to announce details of their plan Thursday at a press conference in
San Francisco.
In addition, Microsoft won't assert rights over patents over software
technology that may be incorporated into Suse Linux, the people said.
Businesses that use Linux have long worried that Microsoft would one day
file
patent infringement suits against sellers of the rival software.
(This story and related background material will be available on The Wall
Street Journal Web site, WSJ.com.)
The pact marks an unusual level of cooperation between two longtime
rivals.
Microsoft has been battling all versions of Linux, but has faced pressure to
assure that customers can run both Windows and Linux without problems.
By forging a peace pact with one seller of Linux, Microsoft could raise
pressure on Red Hat Inc. (RHAT), the leading provider of Linux, and a Novell
rival. Last week, Oracle Corp. (ORCL) announced that it would start selling
its
own support for Red Hat's version of Linux, a plan that undercuts Red Hat's
own
business, which is based on providing support and maintenance. Red Hat's
shares
fell sharply after that announcement.
Novell, originally known for a network operating system called NetWare,
has
also scrapped with Microsoft over sales of desktop application programs
after
Novell bought Wordperfect Corp. and rights to the Quattro Pro spreadsheet
for
more than $1.4 billion. Partly because of stiff competition from Microsoft,
Novell later sold those products for about $170 million; it filed an
antitrust
suit in 2004 against Microsoft, seeking damages related to the tactics
Microsoft used in the applications- software market.
Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Ballmer is in San Francisco to announce
the
pact. Spokesmen for Microsoft and Novell couldn't be reached for comment.
--
"But when you're passionate you can do anything."
Michael Milken
--
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http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 17:51:32 - 0600
From: "Chris K." <lister at kulish.com>
Subject: Re: [Cialug] MSFT to partner with Novell
To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
Message- ID: <454A8484.6090304 at kulish.com>
Content- Type: text/plain; charset=ISO- 8859- 1; format=flowed
I would have to concur with Carl's outlook on this. Disregard the
trolls and zealots.
I'm a big believer in the correct tool for the job. And lately, more
often than not, that tool has been Winders.
Chris K.
Carl Olsen wrote:
> I have two machines running Suse Linux and five running Microsoft Windows.
> I started using Suse Linux before Novell bought it and I started using it
> because it supports ASP.NET. I don't know about anyone else, but this is
> good news to me. It means all the programming I've been learning will
> continue to be supported and improved.
>
> Carl
>
> ----- Original Message-----
> From: cialug- bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug- bounces at cialug.org] On Behalf
> Of Barry Von Ahsen
> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 4:39 PM
> To: Central Iowa Linux Group
> Subject: [Cialug] MSFT to partner with Novell
>
> the end is nigh! repent!
>
> - barry
>
> >From Reuters:
> "SEATTLE, Nov 2 (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp. MSFT Chief
> Executive Steve Ballmer will make a major technology industry
> announcement later on Thursday, the company said.
> A news conference will take place at 2 p.m. PST/2200 GMT in
> San Francisco. Microsoft did not disclose more details about
> the content of the announcement."
>
> 14:04 11/02 *WSJ: Microsoft Entering Partnership With Novell - Sources >
> 14:07 11/02 *WSJ: Microsoft To Offer Sales Support For Novell System < >
>
> By Robert A. Guth
> Of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
> Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) is entering an unusual partnership with Novell Inc.
> (NOVL) that gives a boost to the Linux operating system, a rival to the
> software giant's Windows software, people familiar with the companies told
> The
> Wall Street Journal Thursday.
> Under the pact, which isn't final, Microsoft will offer sales support of
> Suse
> Linux, a version of the operating system sold by Novell. The two companies
> have
> also agreed to develop technologies to make it easier for users to run both
> Suse Linux and Microsoft's Windows on their computers. The two companies are
> expected to announce details of their plan Thursday at a press conference in
> San Francisco.
> In addition, Microsoft won't assert rights over patents over software
> technology that may be incorporated into Suse Linux, the people said.
> Businesses that use Linux have long worried that Microsoft would one day
> file
> patent infringement suits against sellers of the rival software.
> (This story and related background material will be available on The Wall
> Street Journal Web site, WSJ.com.)
> The pact marks an unusual level of cooperation between two longtime
> rivals.
> Microsoft has been battling all versions of Linux, but has faced pressure to
> assure that customers can run both Windows and Linux without problems.
> By forging a peace pact with one seller of Linux, Microsoft could raise
> pressure on Red Hat Inc. (RHAT), the leading provider of Linux, and a Novell
> rival. Last week, Oracle Corp. (ORCL) announced that it would start selling
> its
> own support for Red Hat's version of Linux, a plan that undercuts Red Hat's
> own
> business, which is based on providing support and maintenance. Red Hat's
> shares
> fell sharply after that announcement.
> Novell, originally known for a network operating system called NetWare,
> has
> also scrapped with Microsoft over sales of desktop application programs
> after
> Novell bought Wordperfect Corp. and rights to the Quattro Pro spreadsheet
> for
> more than $1.4 billion. Partly because of stiff competition from Microsoft,
> Novell later sold those products for about $170 million; it filed an
> antitrust
> suit in 2004 against Microsoft, seeking damages related to the tactics
> Microsoft used in the applications- software market.
> Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Ballmer is in San Francisco to announce
> the
> pact. Spokesmen for Microsoft and Novell couldn't be reached for comment.
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:54:45 - 0600
From: "Carl Olsen" <carl- olsen at mchsi.com>
Subject: RE: [Cialug] MSFT to partner with Novell
To: "'Central Iowa Linux Users Group'" <cialug at cialug.org>
Message- ID: <004901c6feda$46423eb0$1c00a8c0 at workstation8>
Content- Type: text/plain; charset="us- ascii"
I also heard that Red Hat is now including ASP.NET in its version of Linux.
Carl
----- Original Message-----
From: cialug- bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug- bounces at cialug.org] On Behalf
Of Chris K.
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 5:52 PM
To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
Subject: Re: [Cialug] MSFT to partner with Novell
I would have to concur with Carl's outlook on this. Disregard the
trolls and zealots.
I'm a big believer in the correct tool for the job. And lately, more
often than not, that tool has been Winders.
Chris K.
Carl Olsen wrote:
> I have two machines running Suse Linux and five running Microsoft Windows.
> I started using Suse Linux before Novell bought it and I started using it
> because it supports ASP.NET. I don't know about anyone else, but this is
> good news to me. It means all the programming I've been learning will
> continue to be supported and improved.
>
> Carl
>
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:29:18 - 0600 (CST)
From: john doe <bofh at visi.com>
Subject: Re: [Cialug] postfix domain aliasing
To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
Message- ID: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0611022324180.25606 at isis.visi.com>
Content- Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US- ASCII
Take a look at virtual_alias_maps and alias_maps.
virtual_alias_maps take care of rewriting aliases to remote box addresses.
alias_maps takes care of aliases to local box addresses.
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Matt Patterson wrote:
> Is this machine just a relay or the final destination?
>
> I'm running postfix at home and I have the following in my main.cf file...
>
> mydestination = $config_directory/virtual_domains
>
> Then the virtual_domains file is just a list of all the domains that the
> box will answer for. Granted, this is the final destination so all the
> users will be for all the domains. If you have multiple domains, you may
> have to dig a little deeper. Postfix is very configurable and should be
> able to do what you need.
>
> - Matt
>
>
>
> On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Dave Weis wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm trying to set up a server that will accept email as user at foo.bar.com and
> > reforward it to user at bar.com. It's running postfix. On a similar machine
> > elsewhere running sendmail I could put
> > @foo.bar.com %1 at bar.com
> > in virtusertable to make it work. Can something similar be done with postfix?
> >
> > --
> > Dave Weis
> > djweis at internetsolver.com
> > http://www.internetsolver.com/
> >
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 06:40:55 - 0600
From: "Dave J. Hala Jr." <dave at 58ghz.net>
Subject: [Cialug] pdf thing (again)
To: Cialug <cialug at cialug.org>
Message- ID: <1162557655.2124.228.camel at dsl- 69.marshallnet.com>
Content- Type: text/plain
I've been experimenting with a trial version of PDF Tools form filling
tool. (www.pdf- tools.com) It takes an existing pdf, and allows you to
insert data into the form fields in the pdf.
It works awesome. However, its priced by CPU. This makes it a little
pricey on a dual cpu server or a dual core server. I'm looking for a
lower cost alternative.
I found something called pdftk or PDF Toolkit
http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/04/17/1943230&tid=47
It seems to be the solution I'm looking for. Has anyone had any
experience with it before?
:) Dave
--
Open Source Information Systems, Inc. (OSIS)
Dave J. Hala Jr., President <dave at osis.us>
641.485.1606 www.osis.us
Save a life: Adopt a shelter animal!
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 13:42:35 +0000
From: carl- olsen at mchsi.com
Subject: Re: [Cialug] pdf thing (again)
To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
Message- ID:
<110320061342.26057.454B474B000D94A0000065C9219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF020A9C0401D3049D0E0C at mchsi.com>
Content- Type: text/plain; charset="us- ascii"
>From what I see, it looks like it would be possible to build the FDF file using PHP and data from a database. I'm not too familiar with running command line instructions using PHP, but I'm sure that its not difficult. I'm wondering if I can create the form using Acrobat and then use this tool to fill in the form fields, or whether the PDF has to be created using this tool. I know how to create a form with fill in fields using Acrobat, but I'd be lost if I had to create one from a command line.
I know how to capture form fields from a PDF and put the data into a database, but I never could figure out how to populate the fields from the database later when I wanted to print out a copy of a form that someone filled out using a web browser. The options I found at that time were very expensive. I looked at the IRS website and found the tool they were using was about half the price of the Adobe tools, but it was still several thousand dollars.
Carl Olsen
Web Developer
Drake University
-------------- Original message from "Dave J. Hala Jr." <dave at 58ghz.net>: --------------
> I've been experimenting with a trial version of PDF Tools form filling
> tool. (www.pdf- tools.com) It takes an existing pdf, and allows you to
> insert data into the form fields in the pdf.
>
> It works awesome. However, its priced by CPU. This makes it a little
> pricey on a dual cpu server or a dual core server. I'm looking for a
> lower cost alternative.
>
> I found something called pdftk or PDF Toolkit
> http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/04/17/1943230&tid=47
>
> It seems to be the solution I'm looking for. Has anyone had any
> experience with it before?
>
>
> :) Dave
>
> --
>
> Open Source Information Systems, Inc. (OSIS)
> Dave J. Hala Jr., President
> 641.485.1606 www.osis.us
> Save a life: Adopt a shelter animal!
>
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