[Cialug] Call for lightning talks - Wednesday

Mon Jul 17 14:23:03 CDT 2006

First of all, let me clear up a misunderstanding.  *all* versions of
SUSE are the
"open source" version.  They're just not all free.  They all contain
some
closed source software.  Here are the differences:

1) OpenSUSE

This is a project like Fedora or Ubuntu.  It is available, for free, to
anyone
who wishes to download it.  If you wish to pay for it, you can also
get
Novell support.  It tends to have a six month lifetime, after which it
is replaced
by a new minor number.  Emphasis is on new and experimentalism.  As
such,
this is best aimed at power users, who can deal with the rough edges to
get
the best tools.  When the minor number hits 1, it becomes:

2) SUSE Core

This is the base for the other SUSE/Novell Linux versions.  It is
considered
stable, and is supported for 7 years from release.  It can be
downloaded
as part of the products below, for free, as an evaluation.  Support
costs money.

3) SUSE Linux Enterprise Server (SLES) 

This is a distribution intended to be used as a server.  Emphasis is on
security
and stability.  Versions 9 and 10 are available, based on Core 9, and
Core 10
respectively.  Consider it similar to RHEL in purpose, though somewhat
different in support and 3rd party apps (like App Armor and full Xen
support)

4) SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop (SLED except in the Netherlands)

This is a distribution intended to be used as a desktop (duh). 
Emphasis
here is on usability.  This is the Linux intended to be used by "normal
people".
It has all the glitz and glamor with minimal rough edges.  It does
*not* have
the latest and greatest foo.whatever.  Stability still matters. 
Versions 9 and
10 are available.  9 is intended to be used by call center people, and
data entry folks.  10 is intended to be used by general office
workers.
Neither is intended to be used by power users.

5) Open Enterprise Server (OES)

This is basically SLES with Novell services.  It natively supports NSS,
iFolder, iPrint,
GroupWise, and the standard Novell/Netware fare.  It is intended to
replace
Netware and MS Small Business Server.  There a nice new bundle that
includes
OES, Groupwise, OpenOffice and (optionally) Linux Desktop.  This tends
to be
much cheaper per user than MS Small Business Server, and it's all open
source.
(go ahead, get excited now).  Currently, it is only available in
version 9, but version
10 is expected once SLES 10 stabilizes.

6) Novell Linux Point of Service (LPOS)

This is a version of Linux that runs well on cash registers and like
machines.
It has native hardware support and includes the fancy Java tools that
this
hardware requires.  I have very little experience with this other than
a basic
install.  I think that only version 9 is currently available.

7) Netware 6.5

What am I doing?  Netware isn't Linux!  Well, actually, Novell
announced
that they will support Netware for 13 years (from last March) when it
is
running inside Xen on SLES 10 (and theoretically, all other versions of
SLES).

In general:

If you are a hobbiest or hacker, use OpenSUSE
If you are in the business world and need a server, use SLES
If you are in the business world and need a desktop, use SLED
If you are in the business world and need a one-box-fits-all, use OES

If you have more questions, feel free to ask me at the LUG meeting on
Wed.

-- 
-Josh More, RHCE, CISSP, NCLP 
 morej at alliancetechnologies.net 
 515-245-7701

>>> "Carl Olsen" <carl-olsen at mchsi.com> 07/16/06 8:56 PM >>> 
I'd also like to start using Java and JSP, so I'm interested in Tomcat
as
well, but I think this release is going to have Geronimo.  What can you
tell
me about Java/JSP support on this new release?

----- Original Message-----
From: cialug- bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug- bounces at cialug.org] On
Behalf
Of Carl Olsen
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 8:54 PM
To: 'Central Iowa Linux Users Group'
Subject: RE: [Cialug] Call for lightning talks -  Wednesday

I was just about to install SUSE 10.1 (the open source version), but
when I
read your email I decided to wait until tomorrow.  What is the
difference
between the open source version and the SUSE Linux Desktop 10 version
that
is being released tomorrow?  I see the price for Novell Linux
Enterprise
Desktop 9 is around $35 on their web site.  I believe you can buy the
open
source version, but the price is actually higher than $35.  I don't
quite
understand the difference.  I'm interested in Apache 2, PHP 5, and
MySQL 5,
and I'm also using PostgreSQL 8 and Mono 1.1.

Carl Olsen
Web Developer
Drake University

----- Original Message-----
From: cialug- bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug- bounces at cialug.org] On
Behalf
Of Josh More
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 1:52 PM
To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
Subject: [Cialug] Call for lightning talks -  Wednesday

OK, we have 10- 20 minutes allocated for SFD (in case it runs long).

This means that we can handle 6- 8 lightning talks.
( http://www.cialug.org/ewiki/?id=Lightning+Talks )

I have signed myself up to give a talk on SUSE Linux Desktop 10, which
is expected to be released this Monday.
If it doesn't pan out, I'll find something else.

If there is a talk you would like to give, sign up at
http://www.cialug.org/ewiki/?id=Meeting+Agenda
or email me, and I will sign you up myself.

Looking forward to seeing everyone on Wed.

--  
- Josh More, RHCE, CISSP, NCLP 
 morej at alliancetechnologies.net 
 515- 245- 7701

>>> "Kevin C. Smith" <kevin at linuxsmith.com> 07/16/06 1:46 PM >>> 
On Sun, 2006-  07-  16 at 13:33 -  0500, Josh More wrote:
> According the wiki, our meeting this Wednesday will be focused on
> Software Freedom Day.
> 
> My questions:
> 
> 1) Will SFD take up the entire meeting?

No. 10 minutes

> 2) If not, does anyone here have a topic that they would like to
> present?
> 3) Failing that, does anyone here have a topic that they would like
to
> see presented?

--   
IT is the duty of every man, as far as his ability extends, to detect
and expose delusion and error. But nature has not given to everyone a
talent for the purpose; and among those to whom such a talent is
given,
there is often a want of disposition or of courage to do it. 
--  Thomas Paine

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