[Cialug] Re: Cialug Digest, Vol 12, Issue 15
Nathan C. Smith
smith at ipmvs.com
Thu Apr 13 11:17:56 CDT 2006
Thinnet or RG-5?
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> I did some consulting for Mediacom selling ethernet
> connections all over Iowa in 2003. I expect their service to
> improve significantly very soon.
>
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> 1. RE: DSL v. Cable (Ankeny) (Carl Olsen)
> 2. Re: DSL v. Cable (Ankeny) (Dave J. Hala Jr.)
> 3. Re: Iowa Computer shows/sales? (Allen Kiddoo)
> 4. RE: Iowa Computer shows/sales? (Nathan C. Smith)
> 5. RE: Iowa Computer shows/sales? (Jeffrey C. Ollie)
> 6. RE: Iowa Computer shows/sales? (Carl Olsen)
> 7. Software Freedom Day 2006 (Kevin C. Smith)
> 8. Re: DSL v. Cable (Ankeny) (Tim Wilson)
> 9. RE: Software Freedom Day 2006 (Nathan C. Smith)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 07:35:48 -0500
> From: "Carl Olsen" <carl-olsen at mchsi.com>
> Subject: RE: [Cialug] DSL v. Cable (Ankeny)
> To: "'Central Iowa Linux Users Group'" <cialug at cialug.org>
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> Qwest offers DSL in my area (Saylorville Township), but only
> for home use. They don't have anything equivalent to the
> service I get from Mediacom. All I can say is that I rarely
> experience any interruption in service. It's been at least 6
> months or longer since I had an interruption and that was
> only for a couple of hours.
>
> Carl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org
> [mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey C. Ollie
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 11:06 PM
> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Cialug] DSL v. Cable (Ankeny)
>
> I'm on the northwest side of Ankeny (near Westwood
> Elementary) and I've had DSL service for several years now.
> The only downside to DSL in Ankeny is that some areas can't
> get DSL because the phone lines are too old and Qwest doesn't
> want to recondition them. The majority of the problems that
> I've had with my DSL service were because of a poor quality
> DSL modem. The modems that Qwest sends out now may or may
> not be of better quality than the one I received.
>
> Qwest's DSL tech support wasn't very helpful the one time I
> called them (the problem ultimately turned out to be a
> failing DSL modem). The woman that I spoke to was obviously
> following a script and didn't really know what she was talking about.
>
> I'd recommend _not_ renting a DSL modem from Qwest. Best Buy
> has a couple of models for a reasonable price. In fact they
> are the same modems that Qwest would ship you if you were to
> rent one from Qwest.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 07:56:48 -0500
> From: "Dave J. Hala Jr." <dave at 58ghz.net>
> Subject: Re: [Cialug] DSL v. Cable (Ankeny)
> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
> Message-ID: <1144933008.2175.362.camel at dsl-69.marshallnet.com>
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>
> I use Marshallnet DSL for business. There are very reliable
> and have ample bandwidth. They also provide really good
> virus/scanning and spam filtering with their email.
>
> Excellant service.
>
>
> :) Dave
>
> On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 07:26, Alan Maupin wrote:
> > Based on price vs performance which vendor would you recommend.
> > Marshallnet seems to have the best prices going for a 3-5MB
> down and
> > 1MB up for $25 a month, but I know nothing about the reliability of
> > the service. Are you familiar with this company?
> >
> > On Wed, 2006-04-12 at 23:46 -0500, John.Lengeling at radisys.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > If anyone has a personal suggestion on what they consider the
> > > superior
> > > > Internet service for this area is I would appreciate the tip.
> > >
> > > I have had Qwest DSL with Freeze Notis for 3-4 years. I
> generally
> > > have 1-2 small outages per year which may last from
> 30min-1.5hrs. So
> > > I have seen about 99.99% uptime. They also provide static IP
> > > addresses for hosting servers. It also seems that people
> with the
> > > dialup DSL service have more problems than people with
> full time DSL
> > > connections.
> > >
> > > I generally recommend the following high speed options to
> people in
> > > order of descending preference. I hate to recommend
> Satellite, but
> > > if that is your only choice it is better than dialup.
> > >
> > > 1 - DSL
> > > 2 - Cable
> > > 3 - Prairie Inet
> > > 4 - Satellite
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> Dave J. Hala Jr., President <dave at osis.us>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 07:16:01 -0500
> From: "Allen Kiddoo" <adk at 52761.com>
> Subject: Re: [Cialug] Iowa Computer shows/sales?
> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
> Message-ID: <20060413120659.M57640 at 52761.com>
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> For computer stuff another option is ham radio 'fests'.
> I am a ham and attend a few near eastern IA during the year.
>
> Most hamfests are at least 50% computers now days.
> Des Moines has at least one. Cedar Rapids, Ottumwa,
> Washington, Davenport are others to check out. Largest in my
> area are Princeton and Peoria IL. Do a search on 'hamfest'
> and a 'city name' to get details.
>
> Allen Kiddoo, KA0STA
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> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: Barry Von Ahsen <barry at vonahsen.com>
> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
> Sent: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:21:03 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Cialug] Iowa Computer shows/sales?
>
> > Tim Wilson wrote:
> > > On 4/12/06, Anthony Jeffries <ajeffri at loopysite.org> wrote:
> > >> Tim Wilson wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> There's the "Super Computer Sale" at the fairgrounds in Des
> > >>> Moines. That's usually held Mother's day weekend, and
> the weekend
> > >>> before Thanksgiving. It has drastically gone down hill. I've
> > >>> heard people (myself included) refer to it as the
> "Stupid Computer
> > >>> Sale".
> > >> Regarding computer sales, the best place for cheap new stuff is
> > >> online. Offline, there's the various surplus sales, like ISU
> > >> Surplus in Ames on Wednesdays from noon to 3. The DOT in
> Ames also
> > >> has surplus sales, but they're less frequent, but those are for
> > >> used/unusual equipment, like Sun Ultras or VAXen. I
> think there are
> > >> other sales around. Google is your friend here.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I think there's another state sale in Des Moines. I
> believe it is
> > > held by the corrections dept, or something along those lines.
> > > Anyone have any info?
> > >
> >
> > http://www.iaprisonind.com/html/services/surplus/state_geninfo.asp
> >
> > http://www.cialug.org/ewiki/?id=FAQ
> >
> > -barry
> >
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> ------- End of Original Message -------
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 09:05:29 -0500
> From: "Nathan C. Smith" <smith at ipmvs.com>
> Subject: RE: [Cialug] Iowa Computer shows/sales?
> To: 'Central Iowa Linux Users Group' <cialug at cialug.org>
> Message-ID: <E10143BCF174D211BB2E00805FCBDD23057239C2 at DSMEXCH>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> This is interesting:
>
> Computers, Complete: $.10 per MHz
>
> Never seen them priced that way before, even though it
> usually boils down to that.
>
> >
> >
> > http://www.iaprisonind.com/html/services/surplus/state_geninfo.asp
> >
> > http://www.cialug.org/ewiki/?id=FAQ
> >
> > -barry
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 09:21:15 -0500
> From: "Jeffrey C. Ollie" <jeff at ocjtech.us>
> Subject: RE: [Cialug] Iowa Computer shows/sales?
> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
> Message-ID: <1144938076.2734.16.camel at lt16585.campus.dmacc.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> DMACC donates a lot of our older computers to Iowa Prison
> Industries. Unfortunately the ones we donate are way out of
> date. The might make a decent linux-based router/firewall
> though. Don't know what kind of stuff other agencies give to
> Prison Industries though...
>
> On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 09:05 -0500, Nathan C. Smith wrote:
> > This is interesting:
> >
> > Computers, Complete: $.10 per MHz
> >
> > Never seen them priced that way before, even though it
> usually boils
> > down to that.
> >
> > > http://www.iaprisonind.com/html/services/surplus/state_geninfo.asp
> > >
> > > http://www.cialug.org/ewiki/?id=FAQ
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:13:50 -0500
> From: "Carl Olsen" <carl-olsen at mchsi.com>
> Subject: RE: [Cialug] Iowa Computer shows/sales?
> To: "'Central Iowa Linux Users Group'" <cialug at cialug.org>
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> I bought 4 used monitors at Iowa Prison Insdustries a couple
> weeks ago, and I'm very happy with all 4 of them. I got 2
> 19-inche monitors and 2 17-inch monitors for $70.
>
> Carl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org
> [mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey C. Ollie
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:21 AM
> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> Subject: RE: [Cialug] Iowa Computer shows/sales?
>
> DMACC donates a lot of our older computers to Iowa Prison
> Industries. Unfortunately the ones we donate are way out of
> date. The might make a decent linux-based router/firewall
> though. Don't know what kind of stuff other agencies give to
> Prison Industries though...
>
> On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 09:05 -0500, Nathan C. Smith wrote:
> > This is interesting:
> >
> > Computers, Complete: $.10 per MHz
> >
> > Never seen them priced that way before, even though it
> usually boils
> > down
> to
> > that.
> >
> > > http://www.iaprisonind.com/html/services/surplus/state_geninfo.asp
> > >
> > > http://www.cialug.org/ewiki/?id=FAQ
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:59:51 -0500 (CDT)
> From: "Kevin C. Smith" <kevin at linuxsmith.com>
> Subject: [Cialug] Software Freedom Day 2006
> To: cialug at cialug.org
> Message-ID: <4651.66.43.220.240.1144943991.squirrel at linuxsmith.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>
> SFD will be September 16th this year.
>
> I've started the wiki. Sign up there to help.
> In order to get free stuff from the SFD we need a team of a
> certain size. The rules for this year haven't been announced
> yet. The more that sign up the better though.
>
> The libraries are not taking reservations until July for
> September, so I will announce the location in July. I'm going
> to try the Main (New) library first.
>
> I will not make the meeting this month, so lets put SFD on
> the agenda for May and I will come prepared to start the
> planning then.
>
>
> --
> Kevin C. Smith
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:00:48 -0500
> From: "Tim Wilson" <tim_linux at wilson-home.com>
> Subject: Re: [Cialug] DSL v. Cable (Ankeny)
> To: "Central Iowa Linux Users Group" <cialug at cialug.org>
> Message-ID:
> <5a9568c20604130900p1eba542fma521315196eb0d2e at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I had to unplug and plugin my cable modem again last night.
> I've had lots of little outages with Mediacom. Frankly, the
> little outages are worse than a major one. It gets
> frustrating to go to a page and it loads fine, only to click
> a link on the page and you get a timeout error. Last night,
> GMail actually reported a corrupt page to me. I'm guessing
> during the transfer, the javascript client didn't get
> everything it was expecting so it reported corruption, and I
> couldn't do anything until I did a reload of the page. I
> can't trust Mediacom with my internet service, and they want
> me to trust them with my phone service? Seriously? And now
> they're rolling out 10Mb service? C'mon, shouldn't you have
> rock-solid service before adding new services?
>
> On 4/13/06, Carl Olsen <carl-olsen at mchsi.com> wrote:
> >
> > Qwest offers DSL in my area (Saylorville Township), but
> only for home
> > use. They don't have anything equivalent to the service I get from
> > Mediacom. All I can say is that I rarely experience any
> interruption
> > in service. It's been at least 6 months or longer since I had an
> > interruption and that was only for a couple of hours.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org
> [mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] On
> > Behalf Of Jeffrey C. Ollie
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 11:06 PM
> > To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [Cialug] DSL v. Cable (Ankeny)
> >
> > I'm on the northwest side of Ankeny (near Westwood Elementary) and
> > I've had DSL service for several years now. The only
> downside to DSL
> > in Ankeny is that some areas can't get DSL because the
> phone lines are
> > too old and Qwest doesn't want to recondition them. The
> majority of
> > the problems that I've had with my DSL service were because
> of a poor
> > quality DSL modem. The modems that Qwest sends out now may
> or may not
> > be of better quality than the one I received.
> >
> > Qwest's DSL tech support wasn't very helpful the one time I called
> > them (the problem ultimately turned out to be a failing DSL
> modem).
> > The woman that I spoke to was obviously following a script
> and didn't
> > really know what she was talking about.
> >
> > I'd recommend _not_ renting a DSL modem from Qwest. Best Buy has a
> > couple of models for a reasonable price. In fact they are the same
> > modems that Qwest would ship you if you were to rent one from Qwest.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Tim
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:02:02 -0500
> From: "Nathan C. Smith" <smith at ipmvs.com>
> Subject: RE: [Cialug] Software Freedom Day 2006
> To: 'Central Iowa Linux Users Group' <cialug at cialug.org>
> Message-ID: <E10143BCF174D211BB2E00805FCBDD23057239C5 at DSMEXCH>
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> Argh! Real close to one of my favorite days of the year.
> http://www.talklikeapirate.com/
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin C. Smith [mailto:kevin at linuxsmith.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:00 AM
> > To: cialug at cialug.org
> > Subject: [Cialug] Software Freedom Day 2006
> >
> >
> > SFD will be September 16th this year.
> >
> > I've started the wiki. Sign up there to help.
> > In order to get free stuff from the SFD we need a team of a
> > certain size. The rules for this year haven't been announced
> > yet. The more that sign up the better though.
> >
> > The libraries are not taking reservations until July for
> > September, so I will announce the location in July. I'm going
> > to try the Main (New) library first.
> >
> > I will not make the meeting this month, so lets put SFD on
> > the agenda for May and I will come prepared to start the
> > planning then.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Kevin C. Smith
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cialug mailing list
> > Cialug at cialug.org
> > http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug
> >
>
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