OT [Cialug] Time for Suse funeral?

[David Champion]

I find it curious that they chose Gnome over KDE, when they're 
developing a business-oriented distribution.

Gnome is neat... but IMHO KDE is better suited for a business desktop 
environment - especially if you're coming from a Windows environment.

-dc

Dave J. Hala Jr. wrote:
> I don't know if I agree about it "being hard to move dev's from one
> project to another".   Maybe it is hard to do in a larger organization.
> For me, I change projects all the time. Its kinda like: "Do what pays or
> starve"
> 
> Its always bumpy switching to another code base. Somedays I look at some
> of the code I'll be working on and think I'd rather starve, but thats
> just the way life is.
> 
> It seems ironic to use the phrase "Change direction and focus" But if
> your target moves, you gotta move. I think software development
> now-a-days is more like dropping laser guided smart bombs. Pick your
> target, if it moves, adjust. After the big explosion, move on to the
> next target.
> 
> :) Dave
> 
> On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 11:48, Josh More wrote:
> 
>>I actually brought this up with one their development directors at the
>>last conference. 
>>I believe I used the phrase "just pick a horse and back it, already". 
>> 
>>He replied that the reason they don't do that is that you can't just
>>move 
>>devs from one project to another, and that picking one horse means 
>>laying everyone else off.  Apparently things have changed. 
>> 
>>FWIW, I am running SUSE 10 and find it to quite usable. 
>> 
>>I am also on the fence regarding the KDE/Gnome thing. 
>>My main issue right now is that I really like konqueror and krename. 
>>If, at the next meeting, someone can show me how to easilly set 
>>"open with" and do mass renaming in a Gnome environment, I would 
>>appreciate it. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>-- 
>>-Josh More, RHCE, CISSP, NCLP
>>morej at alliancetechnologies.net
>>515-245-7701
>>
>>
>>>>>dave at 58ghz.net 11/07/05 11:05 am >>>
>>
>>My experience with Novell, is that they have always made great
>>products
>>-for Geeks. (I switched to Linux before Netware 5, so I can't comment
>>on
>>that one)
>>
>>That said, my main gripe with Novell is that they have never been
>>really
>>focused.  They're all over the place.
>>
>>I was glad to see the move to Linux and granted it was a bold move,
>>but
>>it made sense. However, they did go linux and went about ten differant
>>directions at once. I'm glad to see them have a little tighter focus. 
>>
>>One could say Novell went a bunch of differant directions with Linux,
>>so
>>that they could "see" what was to become a "viable" component of their
>>business. (I do this alot) However, I think they worked hard and had a
>>little luck on their side. I really doubt that it was "planned".
>>
>>That said, I'm a little disappointed to see some of the focus move off
>>of Evolution, but there a billion things that could be done to improve
>>Gnome, and that is good thing. (Even though I prefer KDE).
>>
>>:) Dave
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 10:44, David Stout wrote:
>>
>>>For those who are interested this article explanins the rumor.
>>>
>>>http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1882118,00.asp
>>>
>>>Aaron Jensen <aaron at aaronjensen.net> wrote:
>>>       I wouldn't be getting too worked up.  Looking like the whole
>>>       article was based on rumor as Novell made an announcement
>>
>>this
>>
>>>       morning that the whole article was false.  What was announced
>>>       is that they will be removing KDE and switching to GNOME.
>>>       
>>>       Aaron
>>>       
>>>       On 11/7/05, Lee <leeh at csi-rics.com> wrote:
>>>               If you read the responses at the bottom of that page
>>>               (assuming they can
>>>               be believed). it sounds like author of that article
>>>               may have taken
>>>               things out of perspective, to say the least.
>>>               
>>>               Anthony Jeffries wrote:
>>>               
>>>               >On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 08:07:52AM -0600, Paul Gray
>>>               wrote:
>>>               >
>>>               >
>>>               >>On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 05:43:53AM -0800, David
>>>               Stout wrote:
>>>               >>
>>>               >>
>>>               >>>I have a newer computer that I was hoping to load
>>>               SuSe 10.0 on. Now what? Any suggestions?
>>>               >>>
>>>               >>>
>>>               >>Debian, of course.
>>>               >>
>>>               >>Just trying to help.
>>>               >>
>>>               >>
>>>               >
>>>               >Along a similar line (i.e. Debian-like distros), try
>>>               Ubuntu
>>>               >(www.ubuntulinux.org). I'm using that on my laptop
>>>               now.
>>>               >
>>>               >
>>>               >
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