[Cialug] Ciacug and general hardware

Don Cady cialug@cialug.org
Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:03:16 -0600


For argument's sake: Is this because they're using mmx instructions in their 
i686 builds (thereby excluding the PPro too), the way the K6 line handles 
memory, or is it early 'sponsorship funds' that came from Intel?

Don
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Josh More" <morej@alliancetechnologies.net>
To: <cialug@cialug.org>
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Cialug] Ciacug and general hardware


> While it may technically work, some distros (RHEL / CentOS) have a check
> on install
> for i686 arch.  The K6 fails this check, and you simply cannot install
> the OS on a K6
> machine.  What you *can* do, however, is hack that logic out of the
> install script, and force
> and install.  My experience has been that it will not boot after that,
> but you can go into
> rescue mode off the CD, install the kernel-BOOT rpm and manually
> configure GRUB.
>
> This process may apply to other distros as well (such as SLES), but I do
> not know this
> for a fact.
>
> -Josh More
>
>>>> doncady@bigfoot.com 03/21/05 8:03 AM >>>
> I don't see how it would. An i686 kernel (and any app/module/etc for
> that
> matter) with flat i686 'PPro-level' processor instructions will execute
> perfectly fine on all AMD models K6 and later. It's when various
> optimizations- MMX, SSE (&2&3), etc. are used on processors that won't
> execute them that things run afoul.
> Lauren- to know what has what see the links Lee posted friday, google
> it, or
> go to the AMD site.
> A specifically compiled kernel/and/or/distro will probably run faster,
> but a
> straight i686 distro can be an ok secondary option.
>
> Don
>
>>> The Ciacug has gotten in more of the nice Compaq servers that Dave W
>>> picked up awhile ago not sure how much they want.. Also they got in a
>>> bunch of PIII dual processor and 2 gig ram boxes that they are
> letting go
>>> for 300.. Nice Linux boxen.. I know this is a little off topic ..
> Dave W
>>> if you interested email me off list and I'll check into it more..
> More on
>>> topic is AMD-K62 takes a different arch doesn't it or do you use the
> i686
>>> kernel I am trying to get a distro for a friend and want to make sure
> it
>>> loads. I know a little naive of me but it has been awhile for the
> AMDs.
>>
>>  In debian they have a kernel built for K6 CPU's.  I 686 Kernel would
>> probably have issues on a K6, it is for intel
> PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.
>>
>> James
>
>
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