[Cialug] Apple and Intel

[Tony Bibbs]

I disagree.  I'm still longing for an OS that has then flexibility of 
linux with the sort of driver support found in windows..  OSX is quickly 
becoming the middle ground.

I'm guessing quite a few on this list would agree given all the Mac 
laptops I saw at the last (and only) LUG meeting I attended this year.

Beside, a proprietary OS that can give me a real terminal window can't 
be all that bad, can it?

--Tony

Theron Conrey wrote:
>  From a hardware perspective it's pretty interesting stuff but,
> no matter what happens the situation remains the same.
> OSX still isn't free, so the impact (hoepfully) will be minimal at best.
> 
> Theron
> 
> 
> 
> D. Joe Anderson wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:35:02PM -0500, Bryan Baker wrote:
>>  
>>
>>> On Jun 7, 2005, at 10:29 PM, Nathan C. Smith wrote:
>>>   
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>>> So here's a stupid question - what kind of thing will keep me
>>>>     
>>>> from buying Mac OS and slapping it on any Intel box?  I
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>> thought all the stuff that used to be in ROM no longer was. What 
>>>> will distinguish an Apple from any other machine?
>>>>     
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>> I'm betting they will have a hand at least in the mobo design, they  
>>> do a bunch of their own ASICs, etc. and they have been using  
>>> OpenFirmware - not BIOS, but that may change now, but I bet there'll  
>>> be other diff's - that said I give it a couple weeks before someone  
>>> comes out w/ a hack, but you can bet it won't get support.
>>>   
>>
>>
>> That, and what this guy said (after you skip down past all the
>> license flamewar cruft) in
>>
>> http://zgp.org/pipermail/linux-elitists/2005-June/011207.html
>>
>>    Mac OS X's demographic is precisely the opposite of those
>>    with enough technical skill to hack and/or patch enough of
>>    their operating system to make it run on non-Apple hardware.    
>> Even if someone managed to make that work, and found a way
>>    to hack in driver support, either through some Rube Goldberg
>>    linux-driver-wrapper horseshit or other, it wouldn't be
>>    terribly useful to terribly many people who leave their
>>    basement on a regular basis.
>>
>> The "not [...] terribly many people" who would be interested in
>> doing this are pretty much the Mac fans who inhabit Linux and
>> other free OS mailing lists like this one--a minority of a
>> minority.  Heck, I figure I probably know the majority of these
>> people who live in Iowa ;-)
>>
>> ie, not enough to affect their market significantly.
>>
>> outside of this, the Mac customers are either going to be the
>> ricer-wannabees who might think the hack is cool, but who don't
>> have the time/skill/whatever to actually apply it, and the
>> people like the ones Valentine mentions above, who want their
>> sealed-box to Just Work, they don't care how, and you can't make
>> them care.  
>> The main thing is that someone who does care, and who does have
>> the skill to apply the hacks isn't going to be able to hang out
>> a shingle and go into business selling beige boxes that have
>> been Macified.  The Clone Wars have already been fought, we know
>> how that turned out, and that was before the DMCA.
>>
>>  
>>
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