[Cialug] debian sarge

[David Champion]

I would not be suprised if there was a correlation showing more linux 
users prefer manual transmissions than windows users.

My hypothesis being that linux users tend to be more technical and 
"hands on" personalities.

If you treat a manual transmission right, you can make it last for a 
couple hundred thousand miles or more with no maintenance. Not a lot of 
auto transmissions make it that far.

Most of the times I've seen people have to replace a clutch have been 
when it's been abused, or used in a "spirited manner", as in doing SCCA 
Autocross. I already had to replace my brake pads after only 45k miles, 
I'm guessing my clutch pad will be in need of replacing some day.

-dc

Dan Sloan wrote:
> Besides being more fun...manuals are cheaper.
> 
> When an auto is slipping...you pay for it...$1500 to rebuild my last one..
> 
> When a manual is slipping...you replace the clutch...which on my VW requires
> removing 34 bolts, including the CV joints, and takes about 4 hours in my
> garage.
> 
> Gee...my mind was just moving along a linux vs windows
> track...manual-vs-automatic Hmmm.  Anyone care to play with the analogy?
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org 
>>[mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] On Behalf Of Nathan C. Smith
>>Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:13 PM
>>To: 'Central Iowa Linux Users Group'
>>Subject: RE: [Cialug] debian sarge
>>
>>
>>Yeah, another member of the "manual transmission by choice" club?
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Dan Sloan [mailto:dsloan at DRAKE.EDU]
>>Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:11 PM
>>To: 'Central Iowa Linux Users Group'
>>Subject: RE: [Cialug] debian sarge
>>
>>
>>
>>My dad considered me a good driver when I could hold the steering
>>wheel...and a cup of coffee while...while shifting...and not spilling.
>>
>>So yeah, my VW has a cupholder.
>>
>>-- Dan
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org
>>>[mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] On Behalf Of Theron Conrey
>>>Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:01 PM
>>>To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
>>>Subject: Re: [Cialug] debian sarge
>>>
>>>my volkswagon has cupholder..............well, sortof.
>>>
>>>
>>>Dave J. Hala Jr. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I've never seen a porsche that didn't have cup holders..
>>>>
>>>>On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 11:44, Nathan C. Smith wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>It's just a convenience.  Debian is a car without built-in
>>>
>>>cupholders.
>>>
>>>>>Hmmm, must be German.
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: David Champion [mailto:dave at visionary.com]
>>>>>Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:44 AM
>>>>>To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Cialug] debian sarge
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The service command is just a script, it could easily be used on a
>>>>>Debian system.
>>>>>
>>>>>Really all it does is saves you a small amount of typing.
>>>>>
>>>>>service httpd restart
>>>>>
>>>>>... is similar to typing:
>>>>>
>>>>>/etc/init.d/httpd restart
>>>>>
>>>>>... I did the latter for a long time before I discovered
>>>
>>>the service
>>>
>>>>>script (or before the service script existed).
>>>>>
>>>>>-dc
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave J. Hala Jr. wrote:
>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Yeah, the redhat service command is handy. I also prefer the way
>>>>>>redhat configures the networking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 10:37, Nathan C. Smith wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It was you who showed me the light.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I was pretty stuck on redhat based distros (that service
>>>
>>>command is
>>>
>>>>>>>handy) until you showed us MythTV setup with Debian.  Of
>>>
>>>course the
>>>
>>>>>>>Sarge installation helps too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: Theron Conrey [mailto:theron at conrey.org]
>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:40 AM
>>>>>>>To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Cialug] debian sarge
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>*cough* PRIMATIVE?!?!??!? if I had a vine I'd swing over
>>>
>>>there.......
>>>
>>>>>>>:) Theron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Nathan C. Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'll be interested too, I'm trying Debian on a couple
>>>
>>>machines as
>>>
>>>>>>>>well and it is a little more clean (primitive?) than 
>>
>>things like
>>
>>>>>>>>fedora, mepis and ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>From: Dan Hockey [mailto:icepuck2k at mchsi.com]
>>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:29 PM
>>>>>>>>To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
>>>>>>>>Subject: [Cialug] debian sarge
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I installed a working base system of sarge today :-)
>>>
>>>,and now I'm
>>>
>>>>>>>>trying to figure out how to start and stop background
>>>
>>>services from
>>>
>>>>>>>>the command line. Is there something else I need to
>>>
>>>install to do
>>>
>>>>>>>>this? I managed to install smb,cups, and apache. This is
>>>
>>>my first
>>>
>>>>>>>>working install of debian so pardon some of the lame debian
>>>>>>>>questions I'll be asking.
>>>>>>>>-dh