[Cialug] RE: UBUNTU

albus cialug@cialug.org
Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:53:04 -0600


I've played with it now for a couple of days and so far I LOVE it.
It even has a slick update utility. And it finds any and all deps and 
correctly installs
them. I havn't yet tried burnig a cdrom or anything fancy, but so far so 
good.


Joel


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave J. Hala Jr." <dave@58ghz.net>
To: "Cialug" <cialug@cialug.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Cialug] RE: UBUNTU


>I just downloaded and ran the Ubuntu live cd.
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> It was nice to run gnome with a nice clean install devoid of all of
> applications you never run... Wow, looks like they know how to make a
> first impression... They have my first pick for applications, as the
> default email client was evolution, browser was firefox and a install of
> open office. They are some games and the a few basic utilities
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> The 2.6 kernel is nice. My guess is that is why gnome feels so
> responsive. It sure makes my RHEL WS look "rough", but then again, we
> are comparing bananas and grapes.
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> :) Dave
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> On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 13:27, Dave J. Hala Jr. wrote:
>> Could this the workstation solution that we've all been looking for?
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>> On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 13:23, albus wrote:
>> > I hate to say it, but it installs as easy or easier than winders.
>> > And it found everything without having to tweak the hell out of it.
>> >
>> >
>> > Joel
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "D. Joe Anderson" <deejoe@raccoon.com>
>> > To: <cialug@cialug.org>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:28 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [Cialug] RE: UBUNTU
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 03:59:17PM -0600, Korver, Aaron wrote:
>> > >> What is it's "catch"?  Gentoo's is compile it to optimize it, 
>> > >> Knoppix is
>> > >> run
>> > >> from CD, anything special about UBUNTU?
>> > >
>> > > It's a commercial distribution.  So, unlike Gentoo, Knoppix, and
>> > > Debian, its release engineering isn't entirely up to volunteers.
>> > >
>> > > It's aimed squarely at the desktop/laptop, newbie,
>> > > non-technical, non-server market (though I think they do have a
>> > > server version or install set or something, since in the end its
>> > > still GNU/Linux underneath).  The disabled root account is just
>> > > one example of this--the "right way" to do administrative stuff
>> > > is to use sudo rather than to drop into root.  If the install
>> > > "just works" no one should *have* to use root, anyway.  I think
>> > > the closest comparison here in terms of target market is the
>> > > MacOS X desktop market.
>> > >
>> > > It's a Debian derivative.  So, compare in that regard to Knoppix
>> > > or Lindows or <insert a bazillion other Debian derivatives
>> > > here>.
>> > >
>> > > The billionaire astronaut backing is no joke.  The money behind
>> > > the company behind Ubuntu comes from the South African moneybags
>> > > who paid for a ride on the Soyuz or something like that.  He
>> > > started the Thawte commercial certificate authority back in the
>> > > days before Network Solutions bought it up.
>> > >
>> > > That money pays several people who were already participants in
>> > > free software development, including some folks from the GNOME
>> > > project, I think.
>> > >
>> > > Release cycle:  Their plan is to follow the same kind of release
>> > > schedule as GNOME, which is to have a release every six months
>> > > come hell or high water.  This is supposed to help
>> > > everybody--developers and users--to plan better, I think.  If
>> > > someone wants to make it into the next release, they know what
>> > > their timeline is.  If they don't, not such a huge deal, because
>> > > the next one is 6 months away.  Contrast this with Debian's
>> > > very, uh, deliberate "when its ready" release plan.  Ubuntu's
>> > > first 6 month release date isn't until later this spring, so I
>> > > guess we'll see how it goes.  Works great for GNOME, or so they
>> > > tell me.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -- 
>> > > D. Joe Anderson         www.etrumeus.com/~deejoe
>> > > "DRM [...] is to copyright law as a machine gun on
>> > > a motion detector is to real estate law"  -- Don Marti
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