[Cialug] Google Rankings

Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:34:47 -0600

Thanks for the tip. I've gotten a couple of other ideas that I'm adding
in this weekend. Hopefully the new and improved site will go live by
Monday! Who was it that said to me: "A website is always a work in
progress, and it is never they way you want it"

On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 16:08, Dave Crouse wrote:
> I've worked for two years now to get my site indexed well on google. It's
> a painstakingly slow process to say the least. Inbound links are good, but
> like it was mentioned before, the "quality" of those inbound links count
> also, if you get inbound links from sites with higher PR ratings than your
> own you will see some improvement, I believe this is to prevent people
> from setting up "doorway" pages by the thousands and thinking that will
> bump them up, it won't. Google changes the way they index fairly regularly
> just to confuse SEO people and keep them from trying to "beat" the system
> so to speak.
> 
> The best way I have found is to create content on a regular basis, forum,
> weblog, or just changing the static page around. Another good method is to
> create content for other websites (with better PR than your own) and to
> submit/post it there with links BACK TO your original article on your own
> website.
> 
> Bottom line, there is no quick fix, the best method seems to be forgetting
> about the PR and the SEO stuff and just create content that changes once
> in awhile.
> 
> That said, I use my meta-tags help for the "other" search engines, plus I
> just plain like adding the no-parse tag for M$.  :)  Probably isnt' even
> needed, but I put it on every page :)
> 
> (hope your not using an html email client-if you are, you might not see this)
> ------------ snip --------------
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
> <html dir="ltr">
> <head>
> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
> <meta http-equiv="Content-Style-Type" content="text/css">
> <meta name="Author" content="http://www.usalug.org" />
> <meta name="generator" content="Hand Coded or edited with BlueFish" />
> <meta name="robots" content="all" />
> <meta name="revisit-after" content="15 days" />
> <meta name="description" content="USA Linux User Group an online forum for
> linux users." />
> <meta name="keywords" content="USA, LUG, Forum, usalug, Linux, user,
> group." />
> <meta name="MSSmartTagsPreventParsing" content="true" />
> ------------ snip ----------------
> 
> I've ended up with some pages having a PR6 and one a PR7 value placed on
> them, but that seems to fluctuate from week to week, I kind of gave up
> worrying about it after hits from the google search engine results hit
> about one every 5 minutes. I revamped the site design a bit, and google
> changed the PR because I changed the entrance page to default to something
> else, but that's rising again now too.
> 
> Google is the top dog now, but i wouldn't forget about msn, and some of
> the other search engines either, once upon a time google wasn't top dog,
> someday they will be replaced, well, one would assume anyway. Change is
> inevitable :)
> 
> -----
> <head>
> <title>OSIS Home</title>
> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
> </head>
> -----
> 
> Looks like you need "some" improvement in the meta-tags, at least that's
> mho, your milage may vary.
> -------------------------
> Sorry, no information is available for the URL www.osis.us
> 
>     * If the URL is valid, try visiting that web page by clicking on the
> following link: www.osis.us
>     * Find web pages that contain the term "www.osis.us"
> Google.
> Results 1 - 2 of about 23 for "+www.osis.us". (0.39 seconds)
> -------------------------
> 
> Looks like you "might" need to submit to google if you haven't already.
> 
> DO NOT SUBMIT your url to google more than once !
> I find it best to get the google spiders to index new sites by putting the
> url in front of them on a heavily indexed website.  Forums are the best
> indexed of most sites, as they have constanly changing content and are
> GREAT for posting something (really doesn't matter what as long as you
> have a link going to your website), this "tricks" the spiders into
> visiting your website, and you get indexed much faster than if you
> actually bothered to "submit" your link to google directly.
> 
> Also, link exchanges DO work.... not the goofy kind with the banner ads ..
> but actual text links on say your main page. I use a block with the term
> Affilliates at the top, then several text links to websites that
> reciprocate that on their main page. It does work as I google tracks back
> the link to my site and gives me credit for inbound links. Sites similar
> to yours are always prefered.
> 
> Well, I hope that helps some. Good luck.
> 
> Dave Crouse
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, January 6, 2005 11:23 am, Dave J. Hala Jr. said:
> > I'm finishing up a re-work of my website.  I'd like it to show higher in
> > the google page rankings.
> >
> > My understanding is that a site with a higher number of links to other
> > sites will get a higher ranking.  I also saw some pages that had a <META>
> > tag embedded with a bunch of key words. Will making improvements in these
> > areas help?
> >
> > Any other ideas, other than paying google?
> >
> >
> > :) Dave
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