[Cialug] Iowa Municipal Telecom Legisation
David Champion
cialug@cialug.org
Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:41:41 -0600
So, rather than fix the legislation that the telcos must endure, let's=20
make municipalities use similarly messed up rules. Gotta love that.
Municipalities provide all kinds of public utility services, like=20
electricity, water, sewer, and sometimes cable TV and phone. All of=20
these are complex and expensive, and yet hundreds of towns in Iowa=20
manage to support them. Why should internet service be MORE regulated=20
than any of those?
Seems to me like a win/win situation would be for XYZ ISP to contract=20
out to a municipality to do this (doubtful that the town would have the=20
resources to do it themselves). Then the town handles the support /=20
billing / day to day junk that would be a hassle for the ISP, and the=20
ISP gets paid for the big contracting and probably for providing the=20
upstream bandwidth.
-dc
Michael Osten wrote:
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> On Feb 22, 2005, at 10:50 AM, Dave J. Hala Jr. wrote:
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>> Its another example of Republican Bush-O-nomics. Its more legislation=
>> sold under the guise of "Improving the business Environment" Basically=
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>> its eliminating community players in potential Telco markets.
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>> I wouldn't be surprised if a new bill popped up saying that ISP's had =
to
>> use MS servers, in order to protect us from Cyber Terrorism. Its a suc=
h
>> load of crap.
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>> Internet infrastructure should be a public utility, if a community wou=
ld
>> choose to have it that way... Communities should not be hampered by th=
is
>> Kind of B.S. They don't need feasibility studies, they have the
>> community to answer to.
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>> It offends me to the point where I become almost insane enough to run
>> for public office.
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> As a disclaimer, I work for a telecom, which also happens to be the=20
> largest ISP in the state of Iowa. However, my opinions are not that of=
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> my employer.
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> It really isn't a case of the evil telecoms forcing over-priced product=
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> on cities.
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> What people fail to realize the telecom industry is one of the most=20
> heavily regulated industries in the country. Telecoms are forced to do=
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> hugely unprofitable things for the benefit of public good. Such as=20
> running telephone lines into rural areas. Sometimes running millions o=
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> dollars of infrastructure to areas that serve a very small amount of=20
> people. Such a small amount that the cost would never be recuperated=20
> simply because of the regulated prices that telecoms can charge. We=20
> currently have DSLAM's in areas that serve fewer than 10 people,=20
> providing the only hope these people currently have for affordable=20
> broadband. The small towns that we serve have no hope of providing=20
> service to their residents, it is simply to expensive and complex. This=
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> is not profitable for us, but is the cost of doing business. Telecos =
> are fighting these municipalities simply because they put local=20
> municipalities on a unleveled, unregulated playing field with the=20
> heavily regulated, "for profit" telecos. This really also has nothing =
> to do with internet access per-se. IMHO it has more to do with the=20
> coming of VOIP products that are completely unregulated, and do not=20
> require the infrastructure that the telecoms have been forced to put in=
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> place. Other "for-profit" entities we can compete against, but tax=20
> payer fed, and deficit running municipalities used to hemorrhaging mone=
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> we can not.
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> You also need to look at why cities would want to do this? Is the=20
> service they currently have so terrible and overpriced? I doubt it. =20
> Sure to people like us, fiber to the door would be nice, but do you=20
> really think "Joe six-pack" really needs or wants to subsidize said=20
> fiber, or wireless for that matter?
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> Below is a quote from Alan Wells, the CEO of Iowa Telecom in the Des=20
> Moines paper:
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> Q. There is an effort to bring fiber to the home with OpportunityIowa. =
> What are your thoughts on that?
> A. You have to take a step back and say what=92s the need we=92re tryin=
g to=20
> address =85 Is telecom and capacity on the network holding us back from=
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> economic development? I don=92t think so. If it was, I think we=92d hav=
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> heard a lot more about communities coming to us or somebody else saying=
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> we have a development need. How can you help us meet it? (Fiber to the =
> home) is an awful lot of money for cities and communities to take on=20
> responsibility for without a demonstrated need.
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> Q. Is that a statement in opposition to OpportunityIowa?
> A. I wouldn=92t say opposition. Whoever makes the decision about the ne=
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> for fiber to the home really needs to understand the costs and risks=20
> that go along with it and make sure those costs and risks are warranted=
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> . If a community decides it=92s being held back because of=20
> telecommunications, it really take a close look whether that=92s the ca=
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> before deciding to spend millions of dollars of city money to go build =
> something.
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> I think that Mr Wells is right, the only sane reason to use tax payer=20
> money for infrastructure is where private enterprise would be too cost =
> prohibitive (ie roads, power plants, etc).
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> Here is also something to think about, if the communities take over a=20
> utility, would in the world would you complain to if it wasn't up to=20
> your standards? We all know how well government handles our tax money.=
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> Michael Osten
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