I just received a whole bunch (hundreds?) of Ubuntu CD's in the mail. I'm guessing they're the old release, not Hoary Hedgehog - I didn't have time to check them out. If anyone wants one or a dozen or a hundred, let me know. p.s. I have the new Mandrake 10.2 / Mandriva 2005 LE downloaded. If you want a set I just need 3 blank CDR's in exchange. -dc