[Cialug] Asterisk, IAXYs and IAX (was Des Moines Area ISPs)
Jon Clemons
cialug@cialug.org
Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:36:43 -0500
I have plenty of spare bandwidth:)
The only issue with DID's for Des Moines and Marshalltown
is porting them to the same PRI is based on usage and
costly. Due to cost a half span PRI is not cost effective
because right now on a 3 yr contract you can get the full 23 channels
for $585.00 on the retail side. I guess I could check my CLEC pricing
too and see where it is.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Bailey" <jcbailey@code0.net>
To: <cialug@cialug.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:58 AM
Subject: RE: [Cialug] Asterisk, IAXYs and IAX (was Des Moines Area ISPs)
> 1. Hardware. You'd be looking at a 2Ghz-ish box with at least a gig of
> memory.
> 2. Bandwidth. Marshallnet - I think they have some to spare :-D Don't
> know
> if it would be at the colo rate or what.
> 3. Termination/local DIDs - probably get a fractional T1 from qwest, but
> can
> you get DSM DIDs in Marshalltown, etc?
>
> 4. LD - Probably go through IAXtel or similar - ~2cents/min or so, I
> think.
>
> BTW, Pulvers VoIP service is Free World Dialup (FWD).
>
>
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cialug-admin@cialug.org [mailto:cialug-admin@cialug.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Nathan C. Smith
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:25 AM
> To: 'cialug@cialug.org'
> Subject: RE: [Cialug] Asterisk, IAXYs and IAX (was Des Moines Area ISPs)
>
>
> So how would an asterisk Coop work? We would need:
> a machine,
> a place to host it
> Internet bandwidth with necessary room and/or QoS a small race of
> elf-like
> genius computer operators to manage it.
>
> People could get individual accounts from companies like voicepulse or
> Nufone and just host them on the box, that could make it easy to skirt
> billing issues. What codecs would we allow, what protocols to connect?
> IAX
> and/or SIP? (forgone conclusion: no h.323!).
>
> There is a new version of the IAXy out, I don't know if the firmware is
> any
> different (improved) or not. I have one of the netweb phones loaded with
> IAX, it works fine too, but you cannot configure it with multiple hosts
> like
> you can the IAXy. BTW, if you use Windows there is a really good IAXy
> provisioning tool available.
>
> Pulvers' thing is Bellster - I know the name changed, but I can't think of
> it right now either.
>
> The IAXY's are kind of overpriced when you compare them to the
> capabilities
> of a Sipura 2000, but the Sipura's only support SIP at this time.
>
> -Nate
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Pohl [mailto:tom@tcpconsulting.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:46 AM
> To: cialug@cialug.org
> Subject: Re: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
>
>
>
> I agree on the whole co-op asterisk thing! Actually, there's a project
> that Jeff Pulver started to do just that sort of thing on a national or
> international scale. I can't remember the name at the moment.
>
> I really like my iaxy's I've setup about 5 of them with great success
> with all of them. The best part is that there are no NAT woes with
> them! One of my iaxy's I bridge to the wireless network so I can have
> an extension in a room that otherwise has no phone options.
>
> The only thing that concerns me is that there is absolutely no security
> on the device. Anyone on the local network can re-provision it! Maybe
> it's more secure if you setup iaxy provisioning from asterisk, but I've
> never tried. I use them both on local networks as well as over the
> internet just fine!
>
> One of my business partners keeps his at his store on a mediacom
> connection and the pbx is on a dsl line and it works great! I've also
> trunked the business pbx to my home pbx for my extensions and have it
> roll out to my cell phone if I'm not reached on the VOIP network.
>
> -Tom
>
> On Apr 14, 2005, at 9:02 AM, Nathan C. Smith wrote:
>
>> It's kind of silly that so many people in our group are throwing their
>> money
>> at Vonage when we could do so some kind of a co-op thing with Asterisk.
>> There are several outbound services like nufone that let you keep an
>> account
>> balance and bill it as you use the minutes, a much less expensive
>> proposition than Vonage. We just need a provider like *cough*
>> Internetsolver who could provide inbound DIDs.
>>
>> Tom, what has your experience with the IAXy been like? I've had mixed
>> results with the one I've tried, using it in a DHCP environment.
>>
>> Freese-notis is also busy exploring VOIP and hopes to terminate DIDs
>> in the
>> future.
>>
>> -Nate
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tom Pohl [mailto:tom@tcpconsulting.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:45 AM
>> To: cialug@cialug.org
>> Subject: Re: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
>>
>>
>>
>> It's a shame that vonage aren't asterisk friendly on your first line.
>>
>> In my house, I use a mix of grandstream budgetone phones
>> (http://grandstream.com/y-bt100.htm) and Digium's iaxy's connected to
>> normal phones (http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=iaxy) to talk to
>> my asterisk pbx.
>>
>> I've used VoicePulse's connect service
>> (http://connect.voicepulse.com/) to get an inbound DID, but
>> unfortunately, they don't have any Iowa numbers yet.
>>
>> -Tom
>>
>>
>> On Apr 13, 2005, at 8:26 PM, n00b wrote:
>>
>>> you can have 2 seperate lines on my adapter (linksys pap2). check the
>>> configuration of whatever device you get as to how many lines it
>>> supports.
>>>
>>> i have all the phones in my house on the same line on my pap2. this
>>> was easy for me (sine i have cable). with cable, you just disconnect
>>> qwests lines from your phone network terminal outside, getting rid of
>>> any voltage that could be coming in from them, then plug a cord into
>>> your phone adapter and the other end into a wall jack. any phone that
>>> was on the same line as that jack should have dialtone. with dsl i'm
>>> not sure how you'd do
>>> this same setup except for running new phone wires everywhere in your
>>> home. i use a cordless so its kinda like the benifit of wifi. no need
>>> to
>>> run extra wires.
>>>
>>> hope this helps. if you want a more through explanation on how to do
>>> a better setup look in vonages help pages.
>>>
>>> neal
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "Alan Maupin" <alan.maupin@mchsi.com>
>>> To: <cialug@cialug.org>
>>> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:09:37 -0500
>>> Subject: RE: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
>>>
>>>> Jon, -- how do I setup two phone's on Vonage, up and down stairs?
>>>>
>>>> I've been looking into getting Vonage to replace Quest phone
>>>> service. At first glance it looks very good with all of the free
>>>> options such as 3-way calling and the email/phone integration. The
>>>> problem I've run into is
>>>> having a phone setup on the first and second floor of my home.
>>>> According to
>>>> the Vonage representative I can only use one broadband phone adapter
>>>> per
>>>> phone line since it involves the mac address of the phone adapter. I
>>>> would
>>>> connect the phone adapter to my router upstairs and connect a phone
>>>> to
>>>> it.
>>>> The problem is how do I connect my phone downstairs?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: cialug-admin@cialug.org [mailto:cialug-admin@cialug.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Bailey, Jonathan C
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:41 PM
>>>> To: cialug@cialug.org
>>>> Subject: RE: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
>>>>
>>>> If the DSL kept going out whenever your phone rings, that usually
>>>> means you
>>>> aren't using filters.. Had that with a local business.. Embarassing
>>>> call to
>>>> tech support..
>>>>
>>>> As for VoIP, I'm switching to Vonage to keep my local number when I
>>>> move. Just waiting to see if Qwest will switch me to standalone DSL
>>>> or just disconnect me completely when the LNP is done.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: cialug-admin@cialug.org [mailto:cialug-admin@cialug.org]On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Tim Perdue
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:37 PM
>>>> To: cialug@cialug.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> timwilson011@mchsi.com wrote:
>>>>> Mediacom, basically because that's what I signed up with 4+ years
>>>> ago. At
>>>> that
>>>>> time, DSL couldn't give the bandwidth cable could. It still can't,
>>>> but it
>>>> is
>>>>> much better than it used to be. I've been toying with the idea of
>>>> switching to
>>>>> DSL (and InternetSolver), but just haven't been pushed (read:
>>>>> pissed
>>>> off)
>>>> enough
>>>>> I guess.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder whatever happened to multiple ISPs on cable...
>>>>
>>>> I had really good luck with Mediacom for ~4 years, but switched to
>>>> DSL (freese notis) so I could have a fixed IP and servers online.
>>>> VOIP seems to be happier with DSL too. The cable modem network
>>>> apparently has no UPS anywhere, as it is offline as soon as your
>>>> house lights dim.
>>>>
>>>> DSL was going offline a lot whenever the phone would ring, but I
>>>> finally just canceled the phone service and it works fine now.
>>>>
>>>> Tim
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