[Cialug] Asterisk, IAXYs and IAX (was Des Moines Area ISPs)
Nathan C. Smith
cialug@cialug.org
Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:24:52 -0500
So how would an asterisk Coop work? We would need:
a machine,
a place to host it
Internet bandwidth with necessary room and/or QoS
a small race of elf-like genius computer operators to manage it.
People could get individual accounts from companies like voicepulse or
Nufone and just host them on the box, that could make it easy to skirt
billing issues. What codecs would we allow, what protocols to connect? IAX
and/or SIP? (forgone conclusion: no h.323!).
There is a new version of the IAXy out, I don't know if the firmware is any
different (improved) or not. I have one of the netweb phones loaded with
IAX, it works fine too, but you cannot configure it with multiple hosts like
you can the IAXy. BTW, if you use Windows there is a really good IAXy
provisioning tool available.
Pulvers' thing is Bellster - I know the name changed, but I can't think of
it right now either.
The IAXY's are kind of overpriced when you compare them to the capabilities
of a Sipura 2000, but the Sipura's only support SIP at this time.
-Nate
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Pohl [mailto:tom@tcpconsulting.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:46 AM
To: cialug@cialug.org
Subject: Re: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
I agree on the whole co-op asterisk thing! Actually, there's a project
that Jeff Pulver started to do just that sort of thing on a national or
international scale. I can't remember the name at the moment.
I really like my iaxy's I've setup about 5 of them with great success
with all of them. The best part is that there are no NAT woes with
them! One of my iaxy's I bridge to the wireless network so I can have
an extension in a room that otherwise has no phone options.
The only thing that concerns me is that there is absolutely no security
on the device. Anyone on the local network can re-provision it! Maybe
it's more secure if you setup iaxy provisioning from asterisk, but I've
never tried. I use them both on local networks as well as over the
internet just fine!
One of my business partners keeps his at his store on a mediacom
connection and the pbx is on a dsl line and it works great! I've also
trunked the business pbx to my home pbx for my extensions and have it
roll out to my cell phone if I'm not reached on the VOIP network.
-Tom
On Apr 14, 2005, at 9:02 AM, Nathan C. Smith wrote:
> It's kind of silly that so many people in our group are throwing their
> money
> at Vonage when we could do so some kind of a co-op thing with Asterisk.
> There are several outbound services like nufone that let you keep an
> account
> balance and bill it as you use the minutes, a much less expensive
> proposition than Vonage. We just need a provider like *cough*
> Internetsolver who could provide inbound DIDs.
>
> Tom, what has your experience with the IAXy been like? I've had mixed
> results with the one I've tried, using it in a DHCP environment.
>
> Freese-notis is also busy exploring VOIP and hopes to terminate DIDs
> in the
> future.
>
> -Nate
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Pohl [mailto:tom@tcpconsulting.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:45 AM
> To: cialug@cialug.org
> Subject: Re: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
>
>
>
> It's a shame that vonage aren't asterisk friendly on your first line.
>
> In my house, I use a mix of grandstream budgetone phones
> (http://grandstream.com/y-bt100.htm) and Digium's iaxy's connected to
> normal phones (http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=iaxy) to talk to
> my asterisk pbx.
>
> I've used VoicePulse's connect service
> (http://connect.voicepulse.com/) to get an inbound DID, but
> unfortunately, they don't have any Iowa numbers yet.
>
> -Tom
>
>
> On Apr 13, 2005, at 8:26 PM, n00b wrote:
>
>> you can have 2 seperate lines on my adapter (linksys pap2). check the
>> configuration of whatever device you get as to how many lines it
>> supports.
>>
>> i have all the phones in my house on the same line on my pap2. this
>> was easy for me (sine i have cable). with cable, you just disconnect
>> qwests lines from your phone network terminal outside, getting rid of
>> any voltage that could be coming in from them, then plug a cord into
>> your phone adapter and the other end into a wall jack. any phone that
>> was on the same line as that jack should have dialtone. with dsl i'm
>> not sure how you'd do
>> this same setup except for running new phone wires everywhere in your
>> home. i use a cordless so its kinda like the benifit of wifi. no need
>> to
>> run extra wires.
>>
>> hope this helps. if you want a more through explanation on how to do
>> a better setup look in vonages help pages.
>>
>> neal
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Alan Maupin" <alan.maupin@mchsi.com>
>> To: <cialug@cialug.org>
>> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:09:37 -0500
>> Subject: RE: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
>>
>>> Jon, -- how do I setup two phone's on Vonage, up and down stairs?
>>>
>>> I've been looking into getting Vonage to replace Quest phone
>>> service. At first glance it looks very good with all of the free
>>> options such as 3-way calling and the email/phone integration. The
>>> problem I've run into is
>>> having a phone setup on the first and second floor of my home.
>>> According to
>>> the Vonage representative I can only use one broadband phone adapter
>>> per
>>> phone line since it involves the mac address of the phone adapter. I
>>> would
>>> connect the phone adapter to my router upstairs and connect a phone
>>> to
>>> it.
>>> The problem is how do I connect my phone downstairs?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: cialug-admin@cialug.org [mailto:cialug-admin@cialug.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Bailey, Jonathan C
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:41 PM
>>> To: cialug@cialug.org
>>> Subject: RE: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
>>>
>>> If the DSL kept going out whenever your phone rings, that usually
>>> means you
>>> aren't using filters.. Had that with a local business.. Embarassing
>>> call to
>>> tech support..
>>>
>>> As for VoIP, I'm switching to Vonage to keep my local number when I
>>> move. Just waiting to see if Qwest will switch me to standalone DSL
>>> or just disconnect me completely when the LNP is done.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: cialug-admin@cialug.org [mailto:cialug-admin@cialug.org]On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Tim Perdue
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:37 PM
>>> To: cialug@cialug.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
>>>
>>>
>>> timwilson011@mchsi.com wrote:
>>>> Mediacom, basically because that's what I signed up with 4+ years
>>> ago. At
>>> that
>>>> time, DSL couldn't give the bandwidth cable could. It still can't,
>>> but it
>>> is
>>>> much better than it used to be. I've been toying with the idea of
>>> switching to
>>>> DSL (and InternetSolver), but just haven't been pushed (read:
>>>> pissed
>>> off)
>>> enough
>>>> I guess.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder whatever happened to multiple ISPs on cable...
>>>
>>> I had really good luck with Mediacom for ~4 years, but switched to
>>> DSL (freese notis) so I could have a fixed IP and servers online.
>>> VOIP seems to be happier with DSL too. The cable modem network
>>> apparently has no UPS anywhere, as it is offline as soon as your
>>> house lights dim.
>>>
>>> DSL was going offline a lot whenever the phone would ring, but I
>>> finally just canceled the phone service and it works fine now.
>>>
>>> Tim
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