[Cialug] OT: Management Recruiters (was: Farming of e-mail ad dresses)

[Nathan C. Smith]

First and foremost, Networking with people who know people who are hiring.

Second, Joel Jackman and his brother are recruiters I trust, but you do have
to understand their game: classify you, package you, sell you, and close the
deal as fast as they can.  They work hard to get the employer and employee
to close the deal.

www.paragondm.com

They also have consulting gigs.  I like them cause I know them and they are
local mostly.  If you call them tell them you know me.
Dave C. used to work in the same building as paragon, maybe he has some
light to shed?

Just remember they have to pidgeonhole you to fit a category because they
don't know all your skills.

-Nate

-----Original Message-----
From: Theron Conrey [mailto:theron@conrey.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 11:25 AM
To: cialug@cialug.org
Subject: Re: [Cialug] OT: Management Recruiters (was: Farming of e-mail
addresses)



timwilson011@mchsi.com wrote:

>I worked with a head-hunter a couple of times, you would've thought I'd 
>learned my lesson after the first time.  I was, shall we say, naive in 
>the amount of money I should be earning.  The first head-hunter had to 
>"fight" to get me that much.  I was making just a little less than that 
>at Microware on Tech Support, and I was the lowest paid person there.  
>Twelve years later, I know better.
>
>Beside that, the fact they did a "bait-and-switch" on me left a bad 
>taste in my mouth also.  You see the ads in the paper, you go in to 
>apply, they tell you that you have to fill out paperwork, and then tell 
>you that you're not qualified, or those jobs aren't in this area, or 
>they've already been filled.
>
>The second time was basically the same.  I wanted something in the DM 
>area, but she kept sending me other places, and was pissed off when I 
>turned down an offer in Omaha.  I left DM and all my friends to go the 
>Quad Cities because a head-hunter said they couldn't find me a job in 
>DM, why would I leave the QCA to go to another city I didn't know 
>anyone in?
>
>--
>Tim W.
>
>
>  
>
>>Not to change the thread too much but has anybody had luck with 
>>Management Recruiters?  I've not been impressed by them at all.  
>>Anyone?
>>
>>-Nate
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Theron Conrey [mailto:theron@conrey.org]
>>Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 10:18 AM
>>To: cialug@cialug.org
>>Subject: Re: [Cialug] OT: Farming of e-mail addresses
>>
>>
>>
>>Josh More wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Actually, my ISP is xroads, and I've found them to be good guys. I'd
>>>say to let someone follow up on the job offer (if interested). If the 
>>>offer is legit, then we complain to Executive Recruiters about their 
>>>methods.  If it is not, then we can complain to xroads.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>I can't agree with the tactics, however the jobs are legit, and as I'm
>>standing here on the soapbox saying how innappropriate it is i'm dusting 
>>of my resume behind my back.....................................
>>
>>
>>Theron
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So not using a Headhunter, and not the obvious Monster.com, what else 
would you recommend for someone wanting to look for a job in the IT 
field in the DSM area?

Theron



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