[Cialug] Question about going broadband in Des Moines...
reinstall hell
cialug@cialug.org
Sun, 12 Dec 2004 11:39:09 -0600
just looked. fastest DSL i can physically get is IDSL. which from what
i've read is the same as ISDN, woohoo. i live ~20000 ft from my Telco's
switch. does anyone know if cable internet has any limitations of this
sort? just curious.
reinstall hell wrote:
> don't know what sites you download from but i get 3mbit all the time
> when i download from a server that isn't overloaded. and your mistaken
> the upstream is 256kbps (which isn't all that great either), but who
> needs that much upstream? its fine for uploading txt, pictures, and
> short movie files. if you really have the need for lots of upstream go
> with DSL (hope you live close to your carrier) and you can get that
> 1.5mbit down/ 1.5mbit up (still for a very hefty price usually
> ~$60-70/month right?). only people i've heard of using stuff like that
> are pirates, programmers, and those needing remote access(none of
> which, being related).
>
> going back to sites that support the 3mbit, i thought that most
> webhosts give their sites ~>5mbps to work with usually. granted online
> gaming never uses more than proably 768kbps(if that), making it
> crucial to have DSL should you run a game server. most ISPs however
> are not server friendly(some will let you pay an extra monthly fee to
> get away with it), so check with your ISP about whether you can have a
> server or not.
>
> all that other stuff aside, can you tell me what you mean by "doesn't
> police their network well" means? because they don't manage their
> network. AT&T does, or so i've been told by customer support. so blame
> AT&T (yes the same one thats the phone carrier). any AT&T fans in here?
>
> and i don't respect that comment of "ghetto". don't use it again. very
> uncool.
>
> Dave J. Hala Jr. wrote:
>
>> I don't agree that cable (mediacom) Internet is better than DSL. I had
>> Mediacom. Mediacom Internet is like the "ghetto of the internet".
>> Mediacom doesn't police their network well.
>>
>> Just remember, you may get a fast download connection, but your
>> upstream connection is usually limited to 128k...
>>
>> So what if they say you can get 3mb downstream. How many servers can
>> you download from that will actually support that rate? Almost none.
>> You say you go peer-to-peer? Try and do that at 6pm in the evening on
>> Mediacom's network.
>> 1.5/1.0mb DSL would be my first choice, from a small to mid-size
>> provider. 640/256kb DSL my second choice. Mediacom would be my last
>> choice.
>>
>> :) Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 2004-12-11 at 21:17, Chris Hilton wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Because mediacom is one of the worst companies in our neighbourhood.
>>> 1.) Obnoxious ads constantly calling us thieves.
>>> 2.) Ads calling us stupid, saying we will eat monkey droppings.
>>> 3.) More outage time than a properly setup dish.
>>> 4.) Ever increasing cost for the same service. (from $30 to almost
>>> $50
>>> in under a decade)
>>> 5.) Annoying "people who have dishes are stupid" commercials in
>>> response to "dishes kick butt and cable stinks" commercials.
>>> 6.) They take their price hike money and give it to local "charities."
>>> I find this offensive as I would prefer to invest my money to
>>> charity as
>>> I please, not as they please.
>>>
>>> That's why I don't like Mediacom; but at this point Cable internet is
>>> better than DSL (at the same cost).
>>> On Sat, 2004-12-11 at 21:09 -0600, reinstall hell wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hey,
>>>>
>>>> I've had mediacom for about 2 years as well. Pretty much with the
>>>> same story as far as level of service. As long as you "Keep It
>>>> Simple Stupid", if you ever have to call the tech people, your
>>>> problems will be solved in a timely manner. their phone techs don't
>>>> know squat, but the people doing the service calls have always
>>>> known their stuff (most of which that i've talked to being linux
>>>> users themselves). I wish i knew what some people have against
>>>> cable ISPs, but i just don't see why i should pay 2 seperate fees
>>>> for the signal and then the isp service and get raped on my $1/bps.
>>>> (please note that this is not an invite to start any kind of
>>>> flaming war on this list)
>>>>
>>>> as patrick said the biggest skill to fixing a cable connection that
>>>> doesn't want to stay connected, is to learn the appropriate way to
>>>> powercycle equipment.
>>>>
>>>> Neal
>>>> Patrick L. McGillan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hey,
>>>>> I have had mchsi cable for a couple of years now. They dropped off
>>>>> the modem with the wife, one day while I was at work. I hooked it
>>>>> up that night and have been happy since then. Once long ago, I
>>>>> called them with a problem they were having, which they denied of
>>>>> course. Next day everything was back to normal. Sometimes the
>>>>> cable goes out, maybe once every 6 months. Longest was a day and a
>>>>> half, best I can remember. Have had a public web server up for
>>>>> most of the time, couple hunderd hits a day. Power flickers are
>>>>> the biggest culprit, just requires unplugging and repluggin'. Been
>>>>> using the same ip address for at least two years. Bout all I can
>>>>> say, hope it helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday 11 December 2004 10:34, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey there, first time poster, just joined the list. I use Linux,
>>>>>> have for
>>>>>> some years now and I'm the only one I know who does, so this
>>>>>> could be neat.
>>>>>> My main purpose right now is finding a DSL or cable provider in
>>>>>> Des Moines
>>>>>> THAT DOESN'T FREAK OUT WHEN I DON'T HAVE WINDOWS, haha. Right now
>>>>>> I'm at
>>>>>> 56K with good ol' Qwest but can't go to Qwest (or Verizon,
>>>>>> apparently) DSL.
>>>>>> Any ideas? Thanks a lot!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>
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