<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Just curious: is there a reason you haven't run the updates to bring your server current to 10.4.11 (last free update before 10.5)? A lot of the updates include security components.<br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:15 AM, Michael R. Hoffmann wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Can I set up my own VPS service on my own server running Mac Server <br>10.4.7? Then access it using my laptop with OS 10.6.6?<br><br>If so, how do I set it up?<br><br>Michael R. Hoffmann<br><a href="mailto:mrh@hoffmannlawfirm.com">mrh@hoffmannlawfirm.com</a><br><br><br><br>On Jan 27, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Chris Van Cleve wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Then the simple answer is no, it doesn't really make sense unless <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">you like slowing down your internet experience and allowing whoever <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">runs the VPN server to collect data on your habits.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Thanks,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Chris Van Cleve<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">chris@vanclevefamily.net<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Journey forth my friend, by body if needs be...<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On Jan 27, 2011, at 5:58 PM, Ray Bowler wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On Jan 27, 2011, at Jan 27, 20115:29 PM, Chris Van Cleve wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">There is no benefit to running the software when the VPN is at <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">home unless you have a constant connection to the VPN server and <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">its proxies.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">This is the heart of my question. Does it make sense to have a <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">constant connection to the 'vPN server when you are at home <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">behind firewall.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Clear as mud? ;)<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Yep.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Thanks,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Chris Van Cleve<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">chris@vanclevefamily.net<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Journey forth my friend, by body if needs be...<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On Jan 27, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Matthew Nuzum wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Accessing the Internet through a VPN will be slower than through <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">the normal home network. The only reason to do it is for <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">security purposes.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Ray Bowler <rbowler@mchsi.com> <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I installed VPN on my spouses computer to use at public <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">hotspots. Would there be any advantage in leaving it connected <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">at home behind a firewall? One vendor implies that it improves <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">security the other says that it doesn't. 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