<html><head></head><body name="Mail Message Editor"><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-weight: normal; font-size: 14px; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; background-color: white; ">I was able to download the update file when I used the AOL Desktop Beat browser. I can't recommend it for anyone else but it did download the file immediately while Safari just sat there.<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-weight: normal; font-size: 14px; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; background-color: white; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-weight: normal; font-size: 14px; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; background-color: white; ">I am personally very disappointed in Safari. It is slow, crashes very often, and the tabs don't seem very smart. While there are tons of things I hate about AOL, the browser usually works much better. But sometimes there are some sites that don't work as well on the AOL browser. That's why we have to use 2 or 3 browsers.<br><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-weight: normal; font-size: 14px; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; background-color: white; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-weight: normal; font-size: 14px; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; background-color: white; ">Good luck.<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-weight: normal; font-size: 14px; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; background-color: white; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-weight: normal; font-size: 14px; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; background-color: white; ">Chris</span></div></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" s
tyle="font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-weight: normal; font-size: 14px; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; background-color: white; "><br></span></div></span></div></span></div><div id="replyPrefaceElement">On Aug 19, 2010, at 8:43:39 PM, "Jeff Muller" <jmuller38@mchsi.com> wrote:</div><br><blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: blue; color: blue; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div id="felix-mail-header-block" style="color: black; background-color: white; border-right-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: silver; padding-bottom: 1em; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; width: 764px; text-align: left; font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: 11pt; "><table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td width="70px" class="HeaderLabelCell" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: 8pt; color: gray; text-align: right; vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; "><span>From:</span></td><td class="HeaderValueCell" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: 8pt; color: black; text-align: left; vertical-align: top; padding-left: 5px; white-space: normal; "><span>"Jeff Muller" <jmuller38@mchsi.com></span></td></tr><tr><td width="70px" class="HeaderLabelCell" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: 8pt; color: gray; text-align: rig
ht; vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; "><span>Subject:</span></td><td class="HeaderValueCell" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: 8pt; color: black; text-align: left; vertical-align: top; padding-left: 5px; white-space: normal; "><span style="font-weight: bold; ">[DM-MUG] Is Flip 4 Mac a cruel joke?</span></td></tr><tr><td width="70px" class="HeaderLabelCell" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: 8pt; color: gray; text-align: right; vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; "><span>Date:</span></td><td class="HeaderValueCell" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: 8pt; color: black; text-align: left; vertical-align: top; padding-left: 5px; white-space: normal; "><span>August 19, 2010 8:43:39 PM CDT</span></td></tr><tr><td width="70px" class="HeaderLabelCell" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: 8pt; color: gray; text-align: right; vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; "><span>To:</span></td><td class="HeaderValueCell" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: 8pt; color: black; text-align: left; vertical-align: top; padding-left: 5px; white-space: normal; "><span>"Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug@dmmug.org></span></td></tr><tr><td width="70px" class="HeaderLabelCell" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: 8pt; color: gray; text-align: right; vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; "><span>Reply-To:</span></td><td class="HeaderValueCell" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: 8pt; color: black; text-align: left; vertical-align: top; padding-left: 5px; white-space: normal; "><span>"Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug@dmmug.org></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div><br><div id="felix-mail-content-block" style="color: black; background-color: white; width: 764px; "><div style="font-family: monospace; color: black; background-color: white; font-size: 8pt; ">In order to look at KCCI's live radar, I decided to give Flip 4 Mac another shot. My last attempt had been nearly a year ago. But the same thing happened: it wouldn't load "downl
oad.microsoft.com". This was in Safari but Firefox is even worse as going to KCCI's site displays the front page for a couple of seconds, then goes blank because it's "waiting for www.google-analytics.com" to load. It never does nor does returning to the front page again; just the same routine.<br><br>I use VLC for those dumb little .wmv files that friends occasionally send me but I'd really like to check out some of the live things that depend on microsoft's stuff, like KCCI's live radar. But I can't seem to get past these roadblocks. Any ideas, anyone, other than just giving up (my only other current option)?<br><br>Thanks,<br>Jeff<br>_______________________________________________<br>DMMUG mailing list<br>Use this Address to send mail to the list:<br>DMMUG@dmmug.org<br>Use this page to modify subscription options:<br>http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug<br><br></div></div></span></blockquote><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-weight: normal; font-size: 14px; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; background-color: white; "><br></span></div><div class="aol_ad_footer" id="u3D91082772A649CFA7B5B5115197A528"></div></body></html>