<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">When it comes to backup, there are four phases of personalities...<div><br></div><div>Those that don't think it will happen to them.</div><div>Those that don't think it will happen to them again.</div><div>Those that think that performing backups is enough.</div><div>Those that verify backups by spot checking.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Please skip phase 1-3 and backup _and verify_.</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Feb 1, 2009, at 6:17 PM, CW Smith wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">• Put the HD in a Ziplock back to keep frost from forming on the drive and to keep condensation from accumulating when it comes out<div>• Freeze overnight (12 hours or so) to assure uniform temperature throughout. If you have a deep freeze in your basement, use that instead of your kitchen freezer<br><div>• Keep the HD in its Ziplock back as you attach it to your external case or drive dock (not inside the computer), again to keep condensation from accumulating<br><div>• Attempt recovery while the drive is still COLD, giving you more time before the bearings in the spindle heat up and seize again</div><div><br></div><div>I agree with other posters: don't try this on critical data you'd be willing to pay DriveSavers to recover. If it's critical, get professional help.</div><div><br></div><div>And *next time,* backup your data regularly so you won't get caught behind the eight ball again!</div><div><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; 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white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">Peace,</div><div>CW</div><div><br></div><div><div><div>------------------------------------------------</div></div><br></div><div>CW Smith</div><div>guitar, bass, percussion, Macintosh</div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div><a href="mailto:cwsmith7@gmail.com">cwsmith7@gmail.com</a></div><div><br></div></div></span></div></span><div>------------------------------------------------</div></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span> </div><br><div><div>On Feb 1, 2009, at 4:04 PM, Chris Tyrrell wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">I might just be imaging things, but I could swear that I've heard of sticking a dead drive in the freezer for a brief resurrection. Of course, once removed from the freezer, I would think it would need to warm up to avoid condensation, and once it's warm, is the benefit of the freezer time lost?<br> <br>Good luck,<br>Chris<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Noah Yamen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:noahyamen@me.com">noahyamen@me.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> While we're on the topic of hard drives, (and a great excuse to post my first message with you all!) I just had my G-Drive Mini take a turn for the worse. When i plug it in via firewire 400, the power light comes on but the harddrive doesnt spin or turn on. So i tried opening disk utility, doesnt show up. I opened up terminal: cd /Volumes and ls.... Still doesnt show up. I took the drive out, hooked it up to a sata reader, still no luck.<br> <br> Before I send the thing up to a data recovery center, do you guys have any tips/tricks/last resorts I might try? 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