<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">I'm marginally surprised that no one has mentioned that iLife '05 has native RAW support.<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><<A href="http://www.apple.com/ilife/iphoto/import.html">http://www.apple.com/ilife/iphoto/import.html</A>></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>For wondering why Apple advertises Photoshop... They want Adobe to keep making Photoshop for Mac. There is great debate about whether Aperture is going to eventually kill Photoshop on the Mac (remember Premier--I almost didn't). It's not even close right now, but in a few years...? At least Adobe has competition now.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Matthew</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Dec 4, 2005, at 10:33 PM, Alan Maupin wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"> <O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"> <DIV class="Section1"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">A quote from the Apple Aperture Webpage.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <H3 style="margin-left:.5in"><B><FONT size="2" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:normal">“Round-trip Photoshop support. Aperture lets you launch directly into Adobe Photoshop with a single-click. There, you can take advantage of Photoshop’s strong compositing and layer effects, and when you’re done making modifications, simply save the file. Your modified image will automatically be added to your Aperture library as a version of the original file, where you can manage it easily in a Project or Album. “<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></B></H3> <H3><B><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;color:navy;font-weight:normal">I can’t help but wonder why a photographic program (Aperture) would advertise the benefits of using another sepererate photographic program (Adobe Photoshop), and especially a program (Aperture) listing for $500. This quote seems to be telling us that Photoshop is the benchmark graphical image manipulation program. And this begs the question; why do we need Aperture? For $500 I would expect Aperture to at least attempt to compete with Photoshop, not glorify the benefit of Photoshop instead.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></B></H3><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <DIV class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"> <HR size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><B><FONT size="2" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size="2" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> dmmug-bounces@dmmug.org [<A href="mailto:dmmug-bounces@dmmug.org">mailto:dmmug-bounces@dmmug.org</A>] <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Victoria L. Herring<BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, December 04, 2005 10:05 PM<BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">To:</SPAN></B> Des Moines Mac Users Group<BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [DM-MUG] Digital Camera Compatibility</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P> </DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <BLOCKQUOTE style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Courier"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Courier"> Turns out you can only read the RAW images from the bundled software - for Windows only.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Courier"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Courier">RAW is very special and prized.... it's what Aperature works with and is probably overkill for a college student and an <$200 camera.... iPhoto evidently won't work with RAW either = maybe Graphic Converter will??? For myself, the idea of getting Aperature looks better and better....</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P> </DIV> <PRE><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt"><X-SIGSEP>-- <O:P></O:P></X-SIGSEP></SPAN></FONT></PRE> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" color="black" face="Palatino"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Palatino;color:black">Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & Employment Law, <<A href="http://www.HerringLaw.com">http://www.HerringLaw.com</A>>; Travel research and planning, <<A href="http://www.JourneyZing.com">http://www.JourneyZing.com</A>>; Des Moines, Iowa, 515-255-4475. 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