From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Tue Dec  1 08:02:52 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:02:52 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Fwd: [MacLaw] Snow Leopard File Copying Bug
Message-ID: <p0624080bc73ad24b78ab@[10.0.1.192]>

I wonder if this has any relation to your issue == by the way, the 
create new user idea is a good one, then you'll know if it's 
something affecting the basic OS or something inside your user files 
or prefs etc.

>
>
>There has been a puzzling bug involving file sharing in Snow Leopard.
>Matt Neuburg, of Tidbits, ran it down. He has a way to find problem
>files, a way to fix them, and an explanation. It involved Snow Leopard
>trying to copy irrelevant permissions on symlinks with odd
>permissions, within bundles. Go Matt!
>
>>  How to Fix Snow Leopard's Finder-Copying Bug
>>  --------------------------------------------
>>  by Matt Neuburg <<mailto:matt%40tidbits.com>matt at tidbits.com>
>>  article link: 
>><<http://db.tidbits.com/article/10772>http://db.tidbits.com/article/10772>
>>  6 comments
>--
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><http://www.hierlaw.com,>http://www.hierlaw.com, 
><mailto:jaques%40hierlaw.com>jaques at hierlaw.com

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From alan.maupin at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 09:59:21 2009
From: alan.maupin at gmail.com (Alan Maupin)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:59:21 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue (Trojan)
In-Reply-To: <913624.1976.qm@web110309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <913624.1976.qm@web110309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D5075FE8-F78D-41E5-89C8-EF9A5DF15329@gmail.com>

I moved my Mac to a new location across town and connected to a completely different wireless access point with the same Qwest DSL service (may be a different point of presence).   There is nothing in the Share items now.  At my home the Mac Air, MacBook and MacPro would display as they are all setup for sharing, plus the random URLs.  


On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:14 PM, AB wrote:

> It's a gremlin!. . .  Or maybe H1N1, bird, swine, west nile flu. Seriously, it'd probably drive me nuts. 
> 
> Alan, Is there an off chance a third party thing in your System Preferences panel is the culprit?
> Does it appear in all the user accounts? Can you make a new user account, and see if it appears? 
> 
> -A.
> 
> --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Jon Thompson <jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Jon Thompson <jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com>
> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue (Trojan)
> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 12:09 PM
> 
> My gut instinct is that it is NOT a virus, however, I wanted to eliminate that as a possibility, which Alan has done. This behavior is a normal behavior of Wide Area Bonjour, which is regulated by your DNS server. I have intentionally configured DNS servers to do this exact thing. However, I have yet to figure out how exactly it is populating the dynamic bookmarks without your prior knowledge, which is what I believe it is doing.
> 
> -- 
> Jon Thompson
> Evolve
> www.dmevolve.com
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:34 AM, AB <anastasia_prittee at yahoo.com> wrote:
> My gut instinctively pegged it for a virus/trojan.... but I've never had one on a Mac. I'd still send a report to the URLs popping up, because it's bad for their reputation, assuming they are a legitimate business. If it's the same URL popping up in the Shared Devices list in the Sidebar, there's the FBI Internet Crimes website you can file a report at in full detail. I did that after I got phishing emails from banks I don't even bank at.
> 
> Can you use Time Machine to restore it to an earlier date?
> 
> 
> --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue
> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 9:23 AM
> 
> Yes still there.
> 
> On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
> 
> I wasn't concerned with the trojan being on your computer as so much as the trojan modifying your DNS settings, which are tied with the mDNS that you see in the Shared list.
> Am I correct in you saying that the items are still there?
> -- 
> Jon Thompson
> Evolve
> www.dmevolve.com
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
> Jon here is a newer article that mentions the trojan spoke of in the previous article you sent, with an updated look at Snow Leopards defense: http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4139
> 
> On Nov 30, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
> 
>> Alan,
>> 
>> Try running the commands in this article, as these types of things could appear if you are using a DNS server that is not one given to you by your ISP.
>> 
>> http://www.macworld.com/article/60823/2007/10/trojanhorse.html
>> 
>> I'm giving you this as a precaution, as well as to eliminate it as a possibility.
>> -- 
>> Jon Thompson
>> Evolve
>> www.dmevolve.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> AB thank you very much for this information.  You are quite the internet sleuth!
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 29, 2009, at 7:21 PM, AB wrote:
>> 
> When typing in wildfire.gigya.com I got a "directory not listed" message, see screenshot.
> I went to the gigya.com website. It is a social media and content management internet based company with offices in CA, NY, and Israel. 
> 
> Perhaps they can investigate their own security on their servers since the discussion thread mentioned it was a leak in the respective company's network servers.
> 
> here's the contact info for them. 
> 
> Whether you have a comment, a bug to report,
> or a press or business inquiry, please use the following contact information. 
> We will get back to you as soon as possible.
> 
> Liza Hausman, Gigya 
> 650.353.4178 Office 
> 
> Mark Naples, WIT 
> 215.893.0581 Direct
> 646.265.7372 Cell
> Customer Support and Product Feedback Inquiries: support at gigya-inc.com
> 
> Sales related inquiries: sales at gigya-inc.com
> 
> Partner and Business Development Inquiries: bizdev at gigya-inc.com
> 
> Questions Relating to Terms of Use and/or our Privacy Policy: privacy at gigya-inc.com
> Our offices
> 
> Palo Alto Office (Corporate Headquarters)
> 
> 855 El Camino Real
> Building 4, Suite 290
> Palo Alto, CA 94301
> 650.353.7230
> New York Office.
> 
> 817 Broadway, 10th Floor
> New York, NY 10003-4709
> 646.722.8137
> Tel Aviv Office
> 
> 132 Begin road
> Azrieli round tower (13 floor)
> Tel Aviv, Israel 67021
> +972.73.7852400
> 
> --- On Sun, 11/29/09, Victoria L. Herring <vlh at herringlaw.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Victoria L. Herring <vlh at herringlaw.com>
> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue
> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
> Cc: alan.maupin at gmail.com
> Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 5:57 PM
> 
> you can go to Apple.com and set up a phone support call and explain the whole problem in the message so the person you speak to has an idea of the reason for the support call.  Seems easier than going out to the Apple Store - maybe a first step. 
> I certainly don't know but if you are having things show up in the finder window you might go to the Prefs for Finder and check on what is listed as contents on sidebar =- I don't know what Neighborhood would be other than perhaps you have Bluetooth or Bonjour enabled???  And they/it are picking up signals??
> 
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
> The problem is located in Finder application, on the Shared menu, under the submenu All:   random named URL's are showing up and are listed as Neighborhood.
> 
> The most recent URL to show up is "wildfire.gigya.com"
> 
> It does not go away with a reboot.
> 
> Does anyone know what causes this issue?  Is it a security issue?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Alan
> 
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From jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com  Tue Dec  1 11:38:13 2009
From: jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com (Jon Thompson)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:38:13 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue (Trojan)
In-Reply-To: <D5075FE8-F78D-41E5-89C8-EF9A5DF15329@gmail.com>
References: <913624.1976.qm@web110309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<D5075FE8-F78D-41E5-89C8-EF9A5DF15329@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <865f37f30912010938y79c5c305rb33ef23fe32b9f59@mail.gmail.com>

Your airport extreme has the ability to show dynamic bookmarks, which is
what these are. I would look in there to see what settings related to
bonjour you have turned on.
-- 
Jon Thompson
Evolve
www.dmevolve.com


On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:

> I moved my Mac to a new location across town and connected to a completely
> different wireless access point with the same Qwest DSL service (may be a
> different point of presence).   There is nothing in the Share items now.  At
> my home the Mac Air, MacBook and MacPro would display as they are all setup
> for sharing, plus the random URLs.
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:14 PM, AB wrote:
>
> It's a gremlin!. . .  Or maybe H1N1, bird, swine, west nile flu. Seriously,
> it'd probably drive me nuts.
>
> Alan, Is there an off chance a third party thing in your System Preferences
> panel is the culprit?
> Does it appear in all the user accounts? Can you make a new user account,
> and see if it appears?
>
> -A.
>
> --- On *Mon, 11/30/09, Jon Thompson <jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com>* wrote:
>
> From: Jon Thompson <jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com>
> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue (Trojan)
> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 12:09 PM
>
> My gut instinct is that it is NOT a virus, however, I wanted to eliminate
> that as a possibility, which Alan has done. This behavior is a normal
> behavior of Wide Area Bonjour, which is regulated by your DNS server. I have
> intentionally configured DNS servers to do this exact thing. However, I have
> yet to figure out how exactly it is populating the dynamic bookmarks without
> your prior knowledge, which is what I believe it is doing.
>
> --
> Jon Thompson
> Evolve
> www.dmevolve.com
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:34 AM, AB <anastasia_prittee at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> My gut instinctively pegged it for a virus/trojan.... but I've never had
> one on a Mac. I'd still send a report to the URLs popping up, because it's
> bad for their reputation, assuming they are a legitimate business. If it's
> the same URL popping up in the Shared Devices list in the Sidebar, there's
> the FBI Internet Crimes website you can file a report at in full detail. I
> did that after I got phishing emails from banks I don't even bank at.
>
> Can you use Time Machine to restore it to an earlier date?
>
>
> --- On *Mon, 11/30/09, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> From: Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue
> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 9:23 AM
>
> Yes still there.
>
> On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>
> I wasn't concerned with the trojan being on your computer as so much as the
> trojan modifying your DNS settings, which are tied with the mDNS that you
> see in the Shared list.
> Am I correct in you saying that the items are still there?
> --
> Jon Thompson
> Evolve
> www.dmevolve.com
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=alan.maupin at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
>> Jon here is a newer article that mentions the trojan spoke of in the
> previous article you sent, with an updated look at Snow Leopards defense:
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4139
>
> On Nov 30, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>
> Alan,
>
> Try running the commands in this article, as these types of things could
> appear if you are using a DNS server that is not one given to you by your
> ISP.
>
> http://www.macworld.com/article/60823/2007/10/trojanhorse.html
>
> I'm giving you this as a precaution, as well as to eliminate it as a
> possibility.
> --
> Jon Thompson
> Evolve
> www.dmevolve.com
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=alan.maupin at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
>> AB thank you very much for this information.  You are quite the internet
>> sleuth!
>>
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2009, at 7:21 PM, AB wrote:
>>
>> When typing in wildfire.gigya.com I got a "directory not listed" message,
> see screenshot.
> I went to the gigya.com website. It is a social media and content
> management internet based company with offices in CA, NY, and Israel.
>
> Perhaps they can investigate their own security on their servers since the
> discussion thread mentioned it was a leak in the respective company's
> network servers.
>
> here's the contact info for them.
>
> Whether you have a comment, a bug to report,
> or a press or business inquiry, please use the following contact
> information.
> We will get back to you as soon as possible.
>
> Liza Hausman, Gigya
> 650.353.4178 Office
>
> Mark Naples, WIT
> 215.893.0581 Direct
> 646.265.7372 Cell Customer Support and Product Feedback Inquiries:support at gigya-inc.com<http://mc/compose?to=support at gigya-inc.com> Sales
> related inquiries: sales at gigya-inc.com<http://mc/compose?to=sales at gigya-inc.com> Partner
> and Business Development Inquiries: bizdev at gigya-inc.com<http://mc/compose?to=bizdev at gigya-inc.com>Questions
> Relating to Terms of Use and/or our Privacy Policy: privacy at gigya-inc.com<http://mc/compose?to=privacy at gigya-inc.com> Our
> offices Palo Alto Office (Corporate Headquarters) 855 El Camino Real
> Building 4, Suite 290
> Palo Alto, CA 94301
> 650.353.7230 New York Office. 817 Broadway, 10th Floor
> New York, NY 10003-4709
> 646.722.8137
> Tel Aviv Office 132 Begin road
> Azrieli round tower (13 floor)
> Tel Aviv, Israel 67021
> +972.73.7852400
>
> --- On *Sun, 11/29/09, Victoria L. Herring <vlh at herringlaw.com<http://mc/compose?to=vlh at herringlaw.com>
> >* wrote:
>
> From: Victoria L. Herring <vlh at herringlaw.com<http://mc/compose?to=vlh at herringlaw.com>
> >
> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue
> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org<http://mc/compose?to=dmmug at dmmug.org>
> >
> Cc: alan.maupin at gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=alan.maupin at gmail.com>
> Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 5:57 PM
>
> you can go to Apple.com and set up a phone support call and explain the
> whole problem in the message so the person you speak to has an idea of the
> reason for the support call.  Seems easier than going out to the Apple Store
> - maybe a first step.
> I certainly don't know but if you are having things show up in the finder
> window you might go to the Prefs for Finder and check on what is listed as
> contents on sidebar =- I don't know what Neighborhood would be other than
> perhaps you have Bluetooth or Bonjour enabled???  And they/it are picking up
> signals??
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com>wrote:
> The problem is located in Finder application, on the Shared menu, under the
> submenu All:   random named URL's are showing up and are listed as
> Neighborhood.
>
> The most recent URL to show up is "wildfire.gigya.com"
>
> It does not go away with a reboot.
>
> Does anyone know what causes this issue?  Is it a security issue?
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Alan
>
> <Screen shot 2009-11-29 at 6.11.32 PM.png>
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From alan.maupin at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 13:33:13 2009
From: alan.maupin at gmail.com (Alan Maupin)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 13:33:13 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue (Trojan)
In-Reply-To: <865f37f30912010938y79c5c305rb33ef23fe32b9f59@mail.gmail.com>
References: <913624.1976.qm@web110309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<D5075FE8-F78D-41E5-89C8-EF9A5DF15329@gmail.com>
	<865f37f30912010938y79c5c305rb33ef23fe32b9f59@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AE10AD26-533C-4AEA-8872-6B5974C61E9C@gmail.com>

Here is one item. In Systems settings - Sharing - under Computer Name - Edit:   this check box has always been unchecked on all of my Macs:  Advertise services in this domain sing Bonjour


On Dec 1, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:

> Your airport extreme has the ability to show dynamic bookmarks, which is what these are. I would look in there to see what settings related to bonjour you have turned on.
> -- 
> Jon Thompson
> Evolve
> www.dmevolve.com
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
> I moved my Mac to a new location across town and connected to a completely different wireless access point with the same Qwest DSL service (may be a different point of presence).   There is nothing in the Share items now.  At my home the Mac Air, MacBook and MacPro would display as they are all setup for sharing, plus the random URLs.  
> 
> 
> On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:14 PM, AB wrote:
> 
>> It's a gremlin!. . .  Or maybe H1N1, bird, swine, west nile flu. Seriously, it'd probably drive me nuts. 
>> 
>> Alan, Is there an off chance a third party thing in your System Preferences panel is the culprit?
>> Does it appear in all the user accounts? Can you make a new user account, and see if it appears? 
>> 
>> -A.
>> 
>> --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Jon Thompson <jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com> wrote:
>> 
>> From: Jon Thompson <jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue (Trojan)
>> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 12:09 PM
>> 
>> My gut instinct is that it is NOT a virus, however, I wanted to eliminate that as a possibility, which Alan has done. This behavior is a normal behavior of Wide Area Bonjour, which is regulated by your DNS server. I have intentionally configured DNS servers to do this exact thing. However, I have yet to figure out how exactly it is populating the dynamic bookmarks without your prior knowledge, which is what I believe it is doing.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Jon Thompson
>> Evolve
>> www.dmevolve.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:34 AM, AB <anastasia_prittee at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> My gut instinctively pegged it for a virus/trojan.... but I've never had one on a Mac. I'd still send a report to the URLs popping up, because it's bad for their reputation, assuming they are a legitimate business. If it's the same URL popping up in the Shared Devices list in the Sidebar, there's the FBI Internet Crimes website you can file a report at in full detail. I did that after I got phishing emails from banks I don't even bank at.
>> 
>> Can you use Time Machine to restore it to an earlier date?
>> 
>> 
>> --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> From: Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue
>> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 9:23 AM
>> 
>> Yes still there.
>> 
>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>> 
>> I wasn't concerned with the trojan being on your computer as so much as the trojan modifying your DNS settings, which are tied with the mDNS that you see in the Shared list.
>> Am I correct in you saying that the items are still there?
>> -- 
>> Jon Thompson
>> Evolve
>> www.dmevolve.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Jon here is a newer article that mentions the trojan spoke of in the previous article you sent, with an updated look at Snow Leopards defense: http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4139
>> 
>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>> 
>>> Alan,
>>> 
>>> Try running the commands in this article, as these types of things could appear if you are using a DNS server that is not one given to you by your ISP.
>>> 
>>> http://www.macworld.com/article/60823/2007/10/trojanhorse.html
>>> 
>>> I'm giving you this as a precaution, as well as to eliminate it as a possibility.
>>> -- 
>>> Jon Thompson
>>> Evolve
>>> www.dmevolve.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> AB thank you very much for this information.  You are quite the internet sleuth!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 29, 2009, at 7:21 PM, AB wrote:
>>> 
>> When typing in wildfire.gigya.com I got a "directory not listed" message, see screenshot.
>> I went to the gigya.com website. It is a social media and content management internet based company with offices in CA, NY, and Israel. 
>> 
>> Perhaps they can investigate their own security on their servers since the discussion thread mentioned it was a leak in the respective company's network servers.
>> 
>> here's the contact info for them. 
>> 
>> Whether you have a comment, a bug to report,
>> or a press or business inquiry, please use the following contact information. 
>> We will get back to you as soon as possible.
>> 
>> Liza Hausman, Gigya 
>> 650.353.4178 Office 
>> 
>> Mark Naples, WIT 
>> 215.893.0581 Direct
>> 646.265.7372 Cell
>> Customer Support and Product Feedback Inquiries: support at gigya-inc.com
>> 
>> Sales related inquiries: sales at gigya-inc.com
>> 
>> Partner and Business Development Inquiries: bizdev at gigya-inc.com
>> 
>> Questions Relating to Terms of Use and/or our Privacy Policy: privacy at gigya-inc.com
>> Our offices
>> 
>> Palo Alto Office (Corporate Headquarters)
>> 
>> 855 El Camino Real
>> Building 4, Suite 290
>> Palo Alto, CA 94301
>> 650.353.7230
>> New York Office.
>> 
>> 817 Broadway, 10th Floor
>> New York, NY 10003-4709
>> 646.722.8137
>> Tel Aviv Office
>> 
>> 132 Begin road
>> Azrieli round tower (13 floor)
>> Tel Aviv, Israel 67021
>> +972.73.7852400
>> 
>> --- On Sun, 11/29/09, Victoria L. Herring <vlh at herringlaw.com> wrote:
>> 
>> From: Victoria L. Herring <vlh at herringlaw.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue
>> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>> Cc: alan.maupin at gmail.com
>> Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 5:57 PM
>> 
>> you can go to Apple.com and set up a phone support call and explain the whole problem in the message so the person you speak to has an idea of the reason for the support call.  Seems easier than going out to the Apple Store - maybe a first step. 
>> I certainly don't know but if you are having things show up in the finder window you might go to the Prefs for Finder and check on what is listed as contents on sidebar =- I don't know what Neighborhood would be other than perhaps you have Bluetooth or Bonjour enabled???  And they/it are picking up signals??
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> The problem is located in Finder application, on the Shared menu, under the submenu All:   random named URL's are showing up and are listed as Neighborhood.
>> 
>> The most recent URL to show up is "wildfire.gigya.com"
>> 
>> It does not go away with a reboot.
>> 
>> Does anyone know what causes this issue?  Is it a security issue?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Alan
>> 
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>> 
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From alan.maupin at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 13:37:05 2009
From: alan.maupin at gmail.com (Alan Maupin)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 13:37:05 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue (Trojan)
In-Reply-To: <865f37f30912010938y79c5c305rb33ef23fe32b9f59@mail.gmail.com>
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Also - at home I have an Airport Express connected to a DSL modem., but not at this location Internet is provided with Qwest Motorola 3347 DSL Modem/Wireless & Ethernet 4 port Router.

On Dec 1, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:

> Your airport extreme has the ability to show dynamic bookmarks, which is what these are. I would look in there to see what settings related to bonjour you have turned on.
> -- 
> Jon Thompson
> Evolve
> www.dmevolve.com
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
> I moved my Mac to a new location across town and connected to a completely different wireless access point with the same Qwest DSL service (may be a different point of presence).   There is nothing in the Share items now.  At my home the Mac Air, MacBook and MacPro would display as they are all setup for sharing, plus the random URLs.  
> 
> 
> On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:14 PM, AB wrote:
> 
>> It's a gremlin!. . .  Or maybe H1N1, bird, swine, west nile flu. Seriously, it'd probably drive me nuts. 
>> 
>> Alan, Is there an off chance a third party thing in your System Preferences panel is the culprit?
>> Does it appear in all the user accounts? Can you make a new user account, and see if it appears? 
>> 
>> -A.
>> 
>> --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Jon Thompson <jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com> wrote:
>> 
>> From: Jon Thompson <jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue (Trojan)
>> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 12:09 PM
>> 
>> My gut instinct is that it is NOT a virus, however, I wanted to eliminate that as a possibility, which Alan has done. This behavior is a normal behavior of Wide Area Bonjour, which is regulated by your DNS server. I have intentionally configured DNS servers to do this exact thing. However, I have yet to figure out how exactly it is populating the dynamic bookmarks without your prior knowledge, which is what I believe it is doing.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Jon Thompson
>> Evolve
>> www.dmevolve.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:34 AM, AB <anastasia_prittee at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> My gut instinctively pegged it for a virus/trojan.... but I've never had one on a Mac. I'd still send a report to the URLs popping up, because it's bad for their reputation, assuming they are a legitimate business. If it's the same URL popping up in the Shared Devices list in the Sidebar, there's the FBI Internet Crimes website you can file a report at in full detail. I did that after I got phishing emails from banks I don't even bank at.
>> 
>> Can you use Time Machine to restore it to an earlier date?
>> 
>> 
>> --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> From: Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue
>> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 9:23 AM
>> 
>> Yes still there.
>> 
>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>> 
>> I wasn't concerned with the trojan being on your computer as so much as the trojan modifying your DNS settings, which are tied with the mDNS that you see in the Shared list.
>> Am I correct in you saying that the items are still there?
>> -- 
>> Jon Thompson
>> Evolve
>> www.dmevolve.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Jon here is a newer article that mentions the trojan spoke of in the previous article you sent, with an updated look at Snow Leopards defense: http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4139
>> 
>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>> 
>>> Alan,
>>> 
>>> Try running the commands in this article, as these types of things could appear if you are using a DNS server that is not one given to you by your ISP.
>>> 
>>> http://www.macworld.com/article/60823/2007/10/trojanhorse.html
>>> 
>>> I'm giving you this as a precaution, as well as to eliminate it as a possibility.
>>> -- 
>>> Jon Thompson
>>> Evolve
>>> www.dmevolve.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> AB thank you very much for this information.  You are quite the internet sleuth!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 29, 2009, at 7:21 PM, AB wrote:
>>> 
>> When typing in wildfire.gigya.com I got a "directory not listed" message, see screenshot.
>> I went to the gigya.com website. It is a social media and content management internet based company with offices in CA, NY, and Israel. 
>> 
>> Perhaps they can investigate their own security on their servers since the discussion thread mentioned it was a leak in the respective company's network servers.
>> 
>> here's the contact info for them. 
>> 
>> Whether you have a comment, a bug to report,
>> or a press or business inquiry, please use the following contact information. 
>> We will get back to you as soon as possible.
>> 
>> Liza Hausman, Gigya 
>> 650.353.4178 Office 
>> 
>> Mark Naples, WIT 
>> 215.893.0581 Direct
>> 646.265.7372 Cell
>> Customer Support and Product Feedback Inquiries: support at gigya-inc.com
>> 
>> Sales related inquiries: sales at gigya-inc.com
>> 
>> Partner and Business Development Inquiries: bizdev at gigya-inc.com
>> 
>> Questions Relating to Terms of Use and/or our Privacy Policy: privacy at gigya-inc.com
>> Our offices
>> 
>> Palo Alto Office (Corporate Headquarters)
>> 
>> 855 El Camino Real
>> Building 4, Suite 290
>> Palo Alto, CA 94301
>> 650.353.7230
>> New York Office.
>> 
>> 817 Broadway, 10th Floor
>> New York, NY 10003-4709
>> 646.722.8137
>> Tel Aviv Office
>> 
>> 132 Begin road
>> Azrieli round tower (13 floor)
>> Tel Aviv, Israel 67021
>> +972.73.7852400
>> 
>> --- On Sun, 11/29/09, Victoria L. Herring <vlh at herringlaw.com> wrote:
>> 
>> From: Victoria L. Herring <vlh at herringlaw.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue
>> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>> Cc: alan.maupin at gmail.com
>> Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 5:57 PM
>> 
>> you can go to Apple.com and set up a phone support call and explain the whole problem in the message so the person you speak to has an idea of the reason for the support call.  Seems easier than going out to the Apple Store - maybe a first step. 
>> I certainly don't know but if you are having things show up in the finder window you might go to the Prefs for Finder and check on what is listed as contents on sidebar =- I don't know what Neighborhood would be other than perhaps you have Bluetooth or Bonjour enabled???  And they/it are picking up signals??
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> The problem is located in Finder application, on the Shared menu, under the submenu All:   random named URL's are showing up and are listed as Neighborhood.
>> 
>> The most recent URL to show up is "wildfire.gigya.com"
>> 
>> It does not go away with a reboot.
>> 
>> Does anyone know what causes this issue?  Is it a security issue?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Alan
>> 
>> <Screen shot 2009-11-29 at 6.11.32 PM.png>_______________________________________________
>> 
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From jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com  Tue Dec  1 15:43:08 2009
From: jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com (Jon Thompson)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 15:43:08 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue (Trojan)
In-Reply-To: <8759ECEB-4ABB-4C86-B9B2-C683DE50DBFB@gmail.com>
References: <913624.1976.qm@web110309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Yeah, I gathered that. The airport express is what is causing the items to
show up on your network. Most likely, there is a "ghee whiz" feature that
you checked and forgot about. I don't use Airport Devices for anything other
than wireless gateways, so I probably missed the setting.

-- 
Jon Thompson
Evolve
www.dmevolve.com


On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:

> Also - at home I have an Airport Express connected to a DSL modem., but not
> at this location Internet is provided with Qwest Motorola 3347 DSL
> Modem/Wireless & Ethernet 4 port Router.
>
> On Dec 1, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>
> Your airport extreme has the ability to show dynamic bookmarks, which is
> what these are. I would look in there to see what settings related to
> bonjour you have turned on.
> --
> Jon Thompson
> Evolve
> www.dmevolve.com
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I moved my Mac to a new location across town and connected to a completely
>> different wireless access point with the same Qwest DSL service (may be a
>> different point of presence).   There is nothing in the Share items now.  At
>> my home the Mac Air, MacBook and MacPro would display as they are all setup
>> for sharing, plus the random URLs.
>>
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:14 PM, AB wrote:
>>
>> It's a gremlin!. . .  Or maybe H1N1, bird, swine, west nile flu.
>> Seriously, it'd probably drive me nuts.
>>
>> Alan, Is there an off chance a third party thing in your System
>> Preferences panel is the culprit?
>> Does it appear in all the user accounts? Can you make a new user account,
>> and see if it appears?
>>
>> -A.
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 11/30/09, Jon Thompson <jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com>*wrote:
>>
>> From: Jon Thompson <jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue (Trojan)
>> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 12:09 PM
>>
>> My gut instinct is that it is NOT a virus, however, I wanted to eliminate
>> that as a possibility, which Alan has done. This behavior is a normal
>> behavior of Wide Area Bonjour, which is regulated by your DNS server. I have
>> intentionally configured DNS servers to do this exact thing. However, I have
>> yet to figure out how exactly it is populating the dynamic bookmarks without
>> your prior knowledge, which is what I believe it is doing.
>>
>> --
>> Jon Thompson
>> Evolve
>> www.dmevolve.com
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:34 AM, AB <anastasia_prittee at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  My gut instinctively pegged it for a virus/trojan.... but I've never had
>> one on a Mac. I'd still send a report to the URLs popping up, because it's
>> bad for their reputation, assuming they are a legitimate business. If it's
>> the same URL popping up in the Shared Devices list in the Sidebar, there's
>> the FBI Internet Crimes website you can file a report at in full detail. I
>> did that after I got phishing emails from banks I don't even bank at.
>>
>> Can you use Time Machine to restore it to an earlier date?
>>
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 11/30/09, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>
>> From: Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue
>> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 9:23 AM
>>
>> Yes still there.
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>>
>> I wasn't concerned with the trojan being on your computer as so much as
>> the trojan modifying your DNS settings, which are tied with the mDNS that
>> you see in the Shared list.
>> Am I correct in you saying that the items are still there?
>> --
>> Jon Thompson
>> Evolve
>> www.dmevolve.com
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=alan.maupin at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Jon here is a newer article that mentions the trojan spoke of in the
>> previous article you sent, with an updated look at Snow Leopards defense:
>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4139
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>>
>> Alan,
>>
>> Try running the commands in this article, as these types of things could
>> appear if you are using a DNS server that is not one given to you by your
>> ISP.
>>
>> http://www.macworld.com/article/60823/2007/10/trojanhorse.html
>>
>> I'm giving you this as a precaution, as well as to eliminate it as a
>> possibility.
>> --
>> Jon Thompson
>> Evolve
>> www.dmevolve.com
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=alan.maupin at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> AB thank you very much for this information.  You are quite the internet
>>> sleuth!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 29, 2009, at 7:21 PM, AB wrote:
>>>
>>>  When typing in wildfire.gigya.com I got a "directory not listed"
>> message, see screenshot.
>> I went to the gigya.com website. It is a social media and content
>> management internet based company with offices in CA, NY, and Israel.
>>
>> Perhaps they can investigate their own security on their servers since the
>> discussion thread mentioned it was a leak in the respective company's
>> network servers.
>>
>> here's the contact info for them.
>>
>> Whether you have a comment, a bug to report,
>> or a press or business inquiry, please use the following contact
>> information.
>> We will get back to you as soon as possible.
>>
>> Liza Hausman, Gigya
>> 650.353.4178 Office
>>
>> Mark Naples, WIT
>> 215.893.0581 Direct
>> 646.265.7372 Cell Customer Support and Product Feedback Inquiries:support at gigya-inc.com<http://mc/compose?to=support at gigya-inc.com> Sales
>> related inquiries: sales at gigya-inc.com<http://mc/compose?to=sales at gigya-inc.com> Partner
>> and Business Development Inquiries: bizdev at gigya-inc.com<http://mc/compose?to=bizdev at gigya-inc.com>Questions
>> Relating to Terms of Use and/or our Privacy Policy: privacy at gigya-inc.com<http://mc/compose?to=privacy at gigya-inc.com> Our
>> offices Palo Alto Office (Corporate Headquarters) 855 El Camino Real
>> Building 4, Suite 290
>> Palo Alto, CA 94301
>> 650.353.7230 New York Office. 817 Broadway, 10th Floor
>> New York, NY 10003-4709
>> 646.722.8137
>> Tel Aviv Office 132 Begin road
>> Azrieli round tower (13 floor)
>> Tel Aviv, Israel 67021
>> +972.73.7852400
>>
>> --- On *Sun, 11/29/09, Victoria L. Herring <vlh at herringlaw.com<http://mc/compose?to=vlh at herringlaw.com>
>> >* wrote:
>>
>> From: Victoria L. Herring <vlh at herringlaw.com<http://mc/compose?to=vlh at herringlaw.com>
>> >
>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue
>> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org<http://mc/compose?to=dmmug at dmmug.org>
>> >
>> Cc: alan.maupin at gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=alan.maupin at gmail.com>
>> Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 5:57 PM
>>
>> you can go to Apple.com and set up a phone support call and explain the
>> whole problem in the message so the person you speak to has an idea of the
>> reason for the support call.  Seems easier than going out to the Apple Store
>> - maybe a first step.
>> I certainly don't know but if you are having things show up in the finder
>> window you might go to the Prefs for Finder and check on what is listed as
>> contents on sidebar =- I don't know what Neighborhood would be other than
>> perhaps you have Bluetooth or Bonjour enabled???  And they/it are picking up
>> signals??
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com>wrote:
>> The problem is located in Finder application, on the Shared menu, under
>> the submenu All:   random named URL's are showing up and are listed as
>> Neighborhood.
>>
>> The most recent URL to show up is "wildfire.gigya.com"
>>
>> It does not go away with a reboot.
>>
>> Does anyone know what causes this issue?  Is it a security issue?
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Alan
>>
>> <Screen shot 2009-11-29 at 6.11.32 PM.png>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
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>> Use this page to modify subscription options:
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>>
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From alan.maupin at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 16:18:31 2009
From: alan.maupin at gmail.com (Alan Maupin)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 16:18:31 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue (Trojan)
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	<865f37f30912011343v44400930i703d385cde44ce3e@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks - I'll check out the Airport settings again.

On Dec 1, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Jon Thompson wrote:

> Yeah, I gathered that. The airport express is what is causing the items to show up on your network. Most likely, there is a "ghee whiz" feature that you checked and forgot about. I don't use Airport Devices for anything other than wireless gateways, so I probably missed the setting.
> 
> -- 
> Jon Thompson
> Evolve
> www.dmevolve.com
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
> Also - at home I have an Airport Express connected to a DSL modem., but not at this location Internet is provided with Qwest Motorola 3347 DSL Modem/Wireless & Ethernet 4 port Router.
> 
> On Dec 1, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
> 
>> Your airport extreme has the ability to show dynamic bookmarks, which is what these are. I would look in there to see what settings related to bonjour you have turned on.
>> -- 
>> Jon Thompson
>> Evolve
>> www.dmevolve.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I moved my Mac to a new location across town and connected to a completely different wireless access point with the same Qwest DSL service (may be a different point of presence).   There is nothing in the Share items now.  At my home the Mac Air, MacBook and MacPro would display as they are all setup for sharing, plus the random URLs.  
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:14 PM, AB wrote:
>> 
>>> It's a gremlin!. . .  Or maybe H1N1, bird, swine, west nile flu. Seriously, it'd probably drive me nuts. 
>>> 
>>> Alan, Is there an off chance a third party thing in your System Preferences panel is the culprit?
>>> Does it appear in all the user accounts? Can you make a new user account, and see if it appears? 
>>> 
>>> -A.
>>> 
>>> --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Jon Thompson <jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> From: Jon Thompson <jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue (Trojan)
>>> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>>> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 12:09 PM
>>> 
>>> My gut instinct is that it is NOT a virus, however, I wanted to eliminate that as a possibility, which Alan has done. This behavior is a normal behavior of Wide Area Bonjour, which is regulated by your DNS server. I have intentionally configured DNS servers to do this exact thing. However, I have yet to figure out how exactly it is populating the dynamic bookmarks without your prior knowledge, which is what I believe it is doing.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Jon Thompson
>>> Evolve
>>> www.dmevolve.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:34 AM, AB <anastasia_prittee at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> My gut instinctively pegged it for a virus/trojan.... but I've never had one on a Mac. I'd still send a report to the URLs popping up, because it's bad for their reputation, assuming they are a legitimate business. If it's the same URL popping up in the Shared Devices list in the Sidebar, there's the FBI Internet Crimes website you can file a report at in full detail. I did that after I got phishing emails from banks I don't even bank at.
>>> 
>>> Can you use Time Machine to restore it to an earlier date?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> From: Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue
>>> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>>> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 9:23 AM
>>> 
>>> Yes still there.
>>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>>> 
>>> I wasn't concerned with the trojan being on your computer as so much as the trojan modifying your DNS settings, which are tied with the mDNS that you see in the Shared list.
>>> Am I correct in you saying that the items are still there?
>>> -- 
>>> Jon Thompson
>>> Evolve
>>> www.dmevolve.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Jon here is a newer article that mentions the trojan spoke of in the previous article you sent, with an updated look at Snow Leopards defense: http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4139
>>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Alan,
>>>> 
>>>> Try running the commands in this article, as these types of things could appear if you are using a DNS server that is not one given to you by your ISP.
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.macworld.com/article/60823/2007/10/trojanhorse.html
>>>> 
>>>> I'm giving you this as a precaution, as well as to eliminate it as a possibility.
>>>> -- 
>>>> Jon Thompson
>>>> Evolve
>>>> www.dmevolve.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> AB thank you very much for this information.  You are quite the internet sleuth!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 29, 2009, at 7:21 PM, AB wrote:
>>>> 
>>> When typing in wildfire.gigya.com I got a "directory not listed" message, see screenshot.
>>> I went to the gigya.com website. It is a social media and content management internet based company with offices in CA, NY, and Israel. 
>>> 
>>> Perhaps they can investigate their own security on their servers since the discussion thread mentioned it was a leak in the respective company's network servers.
>>> 
>>> here's the contact info for them. 
>>> 
>>> Whether you have a comment, a bug to report,
>>> or a press or business inquiry, please use the following contact information. 
>>> We will get back to you as soon as possible.
>>> 
>>> Liza Hausman, Gigya 
>>> 650.353.4178 Office 
>>> 
>>> Mark Naples, WIT 
>>> 215.893.0581 Direct
>>> 646.265.7372 Cell
>>> Customer Support and Product Feedback Inquiries: support at gigya-inc.com
>>> 
>>> Sales related inquiries: sales at gigya-inc.com
>>> 
>>> Partner and Business Development Inquiries: bizdev at gigya-inc.com
>>> 
>>> Questions Relating to Terms of Use and/or our Privacy Policy: privacy at gigya-inc.com
>>> Our offices
>>> 
>>> Palo Alto Office (Corporate Headquarters)
>>> 
>>> 855 El Camino Real
>>> Building 4, Suite 290
>>> Palo Alto, CA 94301
>>> 650.353.7230
>>> New York Office.
>>> 
>>> 817 Broadway, 10th Floor
>>> New York, NY 10003-4709
>>> 646.722.8137
>>> Tel Aviv Office
>>> 
>>> 132 Begin road
>>> Azrieli round tower (13 floor)
>>> Tel Aviv, Israel 67021
>>> +972.73.7852400
>>> 
>>> --- On Sun, 11/29/09, Victoria L. Herring <vlh at herringlaw.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> From: Victoria L. Herring <vlh at herringlaw.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue
>>> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>>> Cc: alan.maupin at gmail.com
>>> Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 5:57 PM
>>> 
>>> you can go to Apple.com and set up a phone support call and explain the whole problem in the message so the person you speak to has an idea of the reason for the support call.  Seems easier than going out to the Apple Store - maybe a first step. 
>>> I certainly don't know but if you are having things show up in the finder window you might go to the Prefs for Finder and check on what is listed as contents on sidebar =- I don't know what Neighborhood would be other than perhaps you have Bluetooth or Bonjour enabled???  And they/it are picking up signals??
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The problem is located in Finder application, on the Shared menu, under the submenu All:   random named URL's are showing up and are listed as Neighborhood.
>>> 
>>> The most recent URL to show up is "wildfire.gigya.com"
>>> 
>>> It does not go away with a reboot.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know what causes this issue?  Is it a security issue?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Alan
>>> 
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From woohoowoohoo at me.com  Tue Dec  1 18:14:29 2009
From: woohoowoohoo at me.com (mauri booton)
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:14:29 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Snow Leopard
Message-ID: <5865B80D-D1F1-4A55-A163-BBEFCC6B68C8@me.com>

I just received my Snow Leopard upgrade discs. Any tips or hints about  
doing the upgrade installation?

Thanks!!

~~ mauri ~~

The presentation at the last meeting spurred me on to do this.

From cwsmith7 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 21:10:15 2009
From: cwsmith7 at gmail.com (CW Smith)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 21:10:15 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Snow Leopard
In-Reply-To: <5865B80D-D1F1-4A55-A163-BBEFCC6B68C8@me.com>
References: <5865B80D-D1F1-4A55-A163-BBEFCC6B68C8@me.com>
Message-ID: <D4259AD4-9075-4FDE-8CE9-FFE03389B6AD@gmail.com>

My best advice: BACK UP FIRST !!!

Start with an external FireWire hard drive and format it for GUID  
partition table. This drive should be as large or (preferably) larger  
than the drive in your Mac.

Download the trial version of SuperDuper at http://www.shirt- 
pocket.com (if you really like it you can purchse it later). Use  
SuperDuper to make a bootable clone of your hard drive to the external  
drive we talked about earlier.

At this point it would be wise to boot to the backup drive and make  
sure everything is kosher before proceeding to the SL (Snow Leopard)  
install.

Now you can boot to the Snow Leopard disk and either (a) upgrade- 
install SL (the default option) or (b) erase-install SL, then use the  
Migration Assistant to migrate your Applications and user folder(s)  
from the backup you made in step 2.

Once you're certain everything is working properly on the new system,  
you can use the external hard drive as your new Time Machine backup  
drive.

Don't hesitate to call or email Jon or myself, or email back to the  
list, if you're at all uncertain about the process. Better to take a  
step back and be really sure, than to misstep and wind up losing data.

Peace,
CW

---------------------------------------------
CW Smith
Windows & Macintosh repair
Apple Certified Mac Technician

(515) 577-1716
cwsmith7 at gmail.com

"Guitar, bass, percussion, Mac"
www.cwsmith.fm
---------------------------------------------

On Dec 1, 2009, at 6:14 PM, mauri booton <woohoowoohoo at me.com> wrote:

> I just received my Snow Leopard upgrade discs. Any tips or hints about
> doing the upgrade installation?
>
> Thanks!!
>
> ~~ mauri ~~
>
> The presentation at the last meeting spurred me on to do this.
> _______________________________________________
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From alan.maupin at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 21:54:40 2009
From: alan.maupin at gmail.com (Alan Maupin)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 21:54:40 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Slow Internet meets its Waterloo as 105Mbps comes to Iowa
Message-ID: <DBBF7E78-F01A-4216-B88A-25B9EB6CB262@gmail.com>

From the article header:

105Mbps Internet comes to an unlikely place: Waterloo, Iowa. But the city's own thoughts about deploying municipal Internet may have had something to do with Mediacom's decision.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/12/fastest-us-internet-waterloo-ia.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss

From jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com  Wed Dec  2 00:02:12 2009
From: jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com (Jon Thompson)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 00:02:12 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Snow Leopard
In-Reply-To: <D4259AD4-9075-4FDE-8CE9-FFE03389B6AD@gmail.com>
References: <5865B80D-D1F1-4A55-A163-BBEFCC6B68C8@me.com>
	<D4259AD4-9075-4FDE-8CE9-FFE03389B6AD@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <865f37f30912012202p4b81c524ge528d4f5c9880256@mail.gmail.com>

I thought I was the preacher of backups ;P

Actually, I rarely worry about backups before an update (except on servers)
because I am already confident the data is regularly backed up anyhow. If
you are only backing up just before you update the OS, give CW a call (or
me, but I charge a premium.) One of us will get you on a regular backup
regimen that isn't a backup every year and a half to two years. On servers,
I want to be able to revert easily if I find a dead end bug like I did in
10.5.0-2 and Apple fixed on my behest in 10.5.3. (It's lots of fun when
everyone's files appear to disappear.)

It is handy to have a SuperDuper or Carbon Copy Cloner (my choice, it's
free) copy on a second drive, as you can always revert if things go bad. For
me, this usually means that I get to delve into the depths of an OS and see
_what_ went bad, but that is me.

Anyhow, once you are confident you can recover, go ahead and run the upgrade
install. Don't pay attention to the crap on the internet about clean
installs, not using automatic updates (a couple days after the updates are
available), or repairing permissions.

I have _never_ done a nuke and pave, archive and install, or the like, with
the exception of once, and that turned out to be bad ram. It's unnecessary.
If it wasn't, Apple would quit spending resources on it and commit them to
something more fulfilling.

-- 
Jon Thompson
Evolve
www.dmevolve.com


On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:10 PM, CW Smith <cwsmith7 at gmail.com> wrote:

> My best advice: BACK UP FIRST !!!
>
> Start with an external FireWire hard drive and format it for GUID
> partition table. This drive should be as large or (preferably) larger
> than the drive in your Mac.
>
> Download the trial version of SuperDuper at http://www.shirt-
> pocket.com (if you really like it you can purchse it later). Use
> SuperDuper to make a bootable clone of your hard drive to the external
> drive we talked about earlier.
>
> At this point it would be wise to boot to the backup drive and make
> sure everything is kosher before proceeding to the SL (Snow Leopard)
> install.
>
> Now you can boot to the Snow Leopard disk and either (a) upgrade-
> install SL (the default option) or (b) erase-install SL, then use the
> Migration Assistant to migrate your Applications and user folder(s)
> from the backup you made in step 2.
>
> Once you're certain everything is working properly on the new system,
> you can use the external hard drive as your new Time Machine backup
> drive.
>
> Don't hesitate to call or email Jon or myself, or email back to the
> list, if you're at all uncertain about the process. Better to take a
> step back and be really sure, than to misstep and wind up losing data.
>
> Peace,
> CW
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> CW Smith
> Windows & Macintosh repair
> Apple Certified Mac Technician
>
> (515) 577-1716
> cwsmith7 at gmail.com
>
> "Guitar, bass, percussion, Mac"
> www.cwsmith.fm
> ---------------------------------------------
>
> On Dec 1, 2009, at 6:14 PM, mauri booton <woohoowoohoo at me.com> wrote:
>
> > I just received my Snow Leopard upgrade discs. Any tips or hints about
> > doing the upgrade installation?
> >
> > Thanks!!
> >
> > ~~ mauri ~~
> >
> > The presentation at the last meeting spurred me on to do this.
> > _______________________________________________
> > DMMUG mailing list
> > Use this Address to send mail to the list:
> > DMMUG at dmmug.org
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From jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com  Wed Dec  2 00:03:30 2009
From: jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com (Jon Thompson)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 00:03:30 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue (Trojan)
In-Reply-To: <34D1F2E7-F9AB-4322-87A6-2DC186897478@gmail.com>
References: <913624.1976.qm@web110309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<D5075FE8-F78D-41E5-89C8-EF9A5DF15329@gmail.com>
	<865f37f30912010938y79c5c305rb33ef23fe32b9f59@mail.gmail.com>
	<8759ECEB-4ABB-4C86-B9B2-C683DE50DBFB@gmail.com>
	<865f37f30912011343v44400930i703d385cde44ce3e@mail.gmail.com>
	<34D1F2E7-F9AB-4322-87A6-2DC186897478@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <865f37f30912012203u1d514bd4k88b36cb757b3972e@mail.gmail.com>

You could always try turning the airport off, plugging a computer into the
wired network, and rebooting. This will verify what I am saying. Then reset
it back to factory defaults.
-- 
Jon Thompson
Evolve
www.dmevolve.com


On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks - I'll check out the Airport settings again.
>
> On Dec 1, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>
> Yeah, I gathered that. The airport express is what is causing the items to
> show up on your network. Most likely, there is a "ghee whiz" feature that
> you checked and forgot about. I don't use Airport Devices for anything other
> than wireless gateways, so I probably missed the setting.
>
> --
> Jon Thompson
> Evolve
> www.dmevolve.com
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Also - at home I have an Airport Express connected to a DSL modem., but
>> not at this location Internet is provided with Qwest Motorola 3347 DSL
>> Modem/Wireless & Ethernet 4 port Router.
>>
>> On Dec 1, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>>
>> Your airport extreme has the ability to show dynamic bookmarks, which is
>> what these are. I would look in there to see what settings related to
>> bonjour you have turned on.
>> --
>> Jon Thompson
>> Evolve
>> www.dmevolve.com
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I moved my Mac to a new location across town and connected to a
>>> completely different wireless access point with the same Qwest DSL service
>>> (may be a different point of presence).   There is nothing in the Share
>>> items now.  At my home the Mac Air, MacBook and MacPro would display as they
>>> are all setup for sharing, plus the random URLs.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:14 PM, AB wrote:
>>>
>>> It's a gremlin!. . .  Or maybe H1N1, bird, swine, west nile flu.
>>> Seriously, it'd probably drive me nuts.
>>>
>>> Alan, Is there an off chance a third party thing in your System
>>> Preferences panel is the culprit?
>>> Does it appear in all the user accounts? Can you make a new user account,
>>> and see if it appears?
>>>
>>> -A.
>>>
>>> --- On *Mon, 11/30/09, Jon Thompson <jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com>*wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Jon Thompson <jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue (Trojan)
>>> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>>> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 12:09 PM
>>>
>>> My gut instinct is that it is NOT a virus, however, I wanted to eliminate
>>> that as a possibility, which Alan has done. This behavior is a normal
>>> behavior of Wide Area Bonjour, which is regulated by your DNS server. I have
>>> intentionally configured DNS servers to do this exact thing. However, I have
>>> yet to figure out how exactly it is populating the dynamic bookmarks without
>>> your prior knowledge, which is what I believe it is doing.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jon Thompson
>>> Evolve
>>> www.dmevolve.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:34 AM, AB <anastasia_prittee at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>>  My gut instinctively pegged it for a virus/trojan.... but I've never
>>> had one on a Mac. I'd still send a report to the URLs popping up, because
>>> it's bad for their reputation, assuming they are a legitimate business. If
>>> it's the same URL popping up in the Shared Devices list in the Sidebar,
>>> there's the FBI Internet Crimes website you can file a report at in full
>>> detail. I did that after I got phishing emails from banks I don't even bank
>>> at.
>>>
>>> Can you use Time Machine to restore it to an earlier date?
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On *Mon, 11/30/09, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue
>>> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>>> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 9:23 AM
>>>
>>> Yes still there.
>>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>>>
>>> I wasn't concerned with the trojan being on your computer as so much as
>>> the trojan modifying your DNS settings, which are tied with the mDNS that
>>> you see in the Shared list.
>>> Am I correct in you saying that the items are still there?
>>> --
>>> Jon Thompson
>>> Evolve
>>> www.dmevolve.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=alan.maupin at gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jon here is a newer article that mentions the trojan spoke of in the
>>> previous article you sent, with an updated look at Snow Leopards defense:
>>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4139
>>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>>>
>>> Alan,
>>>
>>> Try running the commands in this article, as these types of things could
>>> appear if you are using a DNS server that is not one given to you by your
>>> ISP.
>>>
>>> http://www.macworld.com/article/60823/2007/10/trojanhorse.html
>>>
>>> I'm giving you this as a precaution, as well as to eliminate it as a
>>> possibility.
>>> --
>>> Jon Thompson
>>> Evolve
>>> www.dmevolve.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=alan.maupin at gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> AB thank you very much for this information.  You are quite the internet
>>>> sleuth!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 29, 2009, at 7:21 PM, AB wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  When typing in wildfire.gigya.com I got a "directory not listed"
>>> message, see screenshot.
>>> I went to the gigya.com website. It is a social media and content
>>> management internet based company with offices in CA, NY, and Israel.
>>>
>>> Perhaps they can investigate their own security on their servers since
>>> the discussion thread mentioned it was a leak in the respective company's
>>> network servers.
>>>
>>> here's the contact info for them.
>>>
>>> Whether you have a comment, a bug to report,
>>> or a press or business inquiry, please use the following contact
>>> information.
>>> We will get back to you as soon as possible.
>>>
>>> Liza Hausman, Gigya
>>> 650.353.4178 Office
>>>
>>> Mark Naples, WIT
>>> 215.893.0581 Direct
>>> 646.265.7372 Cell Customer Support and Product Feedback Inquiries:support at gigya-inc.com<http://mc/compose?to=support at gigya-inc.com> Sales
>>> related inquiries: sales at gigya-inc.com<http://mc/compose?to=sales at gigya-inc.com> Partner
>>> and Business Development Inquiries: bizdev at gigya-inc.com<http://mc/compose?to=bizdev at gigya-inc.com>Questions
>>> Relating to Terms of Use and/or our Privacy Policy:
>>> privacy at gigya-inc.com <http://mc/compose?to=privacy at gigya-inc.com> Our
>>> offices Palo Alto Office (Corporate Headquarters) 855 El Camino Real
>>> Building 4, Suite 290
>>> Palo Alto, CA 94301
>>> 650.353.7230 New York Office. 817 Broadway, 10th Floor
>>> New York, NY 10003-4709
>>> 646.722.8137
>>> Tel Aviv Office 132 Begin road
>>> Azrieli round tower (13 floor)
>>> Tel Aviv, Israel 67021
>>> +972.73.7852400
>>>
>>> --- On *Sun, 11/29/09, Victoria L. Herring <vlh at herringlaw.com<http://mc/compose?to=vlh at herringlaw.com>
>>> >* wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Victoria L. Herring <vlh at herringlaw.com<http://mc/compose?to=vlh at herringlaw.com>
>>> >
>>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue
>>> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org<http://mc/compose?to=dmmug at dmmug.org>
>>> >
>>> Cc: alan.maupin at gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=alan.maupin at gmail.com>
>>> Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 5:57 PM
>>>
>>> you can go to Apple.com and set up a phone support call and explain the
>>> whole problem in the message so the person you speak to has an idea of the
>>> reason for the support call.  Seems easier than going out to the Apple Store
>>> - maybe a first step.
>>> I certainly don't know but if you are having things show up in the finder
>>> window you might go to the Prefs for Finder and check on what is listed as
>>> contents on sidebar =- I don't know what Neighborhood would be other than
>>> perhaps you have Bluetooth or Bonjour enabled???  And they/it are picking up
>>> signals??
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com>wrote:
>>> The problem is located in Finder application, on the Shared menu, under
>>> the submenu All:   random named URL's are showing up and are listed as
>>> Neighborhood.
>>>
>>> The most recent URL to show up is "wildfire.gigya.com"
>>>
>>> It does not go away with a reboot.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know what causes this issue?  Is it a security issue?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> <Screen shot 2009-11-29 at 6.11.32 PM.png>
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From alan.maupin at gmail.com  Wed Dec  2 06:31:39 2009
From: alan.maupin at gmail.com (Alan Maupin)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 06:31:39 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue (Trojan)
In-Reply-To: <865f37f30912012203u1d514bd4k88b36cb757b3972e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <913624.1976.qm@web110309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Great idea.

On Dec 2, 2009, at 12:03 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:

> You could always try turning the airport off, plugging a computer into the wired network, and rebooting. This will verify what I am saying. Then reset it back to factory defaults.
> -- 
> Jon Thompson
> Evolve
> www.dmevolve.com
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks - I'll check out the Airport settings again.
> 
> On Dec 1, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Jon Thompson wrote:
> 
>> Yeah, I gathered that. The airport express is what is causing the items to show up on your network. Most likely, there is a "ghee whiz" feature that you checked and forgot about. I don't use Airport Devices for anything other than wireless gateways, so I probably missed the setting.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Jon Thompson
>> Evolve
>> www.dmevolve.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Also - at home I have an Airport Express connected to a DSL modem., but not at this location Internet is provided with Qwest Motorola 3347 DSL Modem/Wireless & Ethernet 4 port Router.
>> 
>> On Dec 1, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>> 
>>> Your airport extreme has the ability to show dynamic bookmarks, which is what these are. I would look in there to see what settings related to bonjour you have turned on.
>>> -- 
>>> Jon Thompson
>>> Evolve
>>> www.dmevolve.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I moved my Mac to a new location across town and connected to a completely different wireless access point with the same Qwest DSL service (may be a different point of presence).   There is nothing in the Share items now.  At my home the Mac Air, MacBook and MacPro would display as they are all setup for sharing, plus the random URLs.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:14 PM, AB wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It's a gremlin!. . .  Or maybe H1N1, bird, swine, west nile flu. Seriously, it'd probably drive me nuts. 
>>>> 
>>>> Alan, Is there an off chance a third party thing in your System Preferences panel is the culprit?
>>>> Does it appear in all the user accounts? Can you make a new user account, and see if it appears? 
>>>> 
>>>> -A.
>>>> 
>>>> --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Jon Thompson <jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> From: Jon Thompson <jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue (Trojan)
>>>> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>>>> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 12:09 PM
>>>> 
>>>> My gut instinct is that it is NOT a virus, however, I wanted to eliminate that as a possibility, which Alan has done. This behavior is a normal behavior of Wide Area Bonjour, which is regulated by your DNS server. I have intentionally configured DNS servers to do this exact thing. However, I have yet to figure out how exactly it is populating the dynamic bookmarks without your prior knowledge, which is what I believe it is doing.
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Jon Thompson
>>>> Evolve
>>>> www.dmevolve.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:34 AM, AB <anastasia_prittee at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> My gut instinctively pegged it for a virus/trojan.... but I've never had one on a Mac. I'd still send a report to the URLs popping up, because it's bad for their reputation, assuming they are a legitimate business. If it's the same URL popping up in the Shared Devices list in the Sidebar, there's the FBI Internet Crimes website you can file a report at in full detail. I did that after I got phishing emails from banks I don't even bank at.
>>>> 
>>>> Can you use Time Machine to restore it to an earlier date?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> From: Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue
>>>> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>>>> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 9:23 AM
>>>> 
>>>> Yes still there.
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I wasn't concerned with the trojan being on your computer as so much as the trojan modifying your DNS settings, which are tied with the mDNS that you see in the Shared list.
>>>> Am I correct in you saying that the items are still there?
>>>> -- 
>>>> Jon Thompson
>>>> Evolve
>>>> www.dmevolve.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Jon here is a newer article that mentions the trojan spoke of in the previous article you sent, with an updated look at Snow Leopards defense: http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4139
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Alan,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Try running the commands in this article, as these types of things could appear if you are using a DNS server that is not one given to you by your ISP.
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.macworld.com/article/60823/2007/10/trojanhorse.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm giving you this as a precaution, as well as to eliminate it as a possibility.
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Jon Thompson
>>>>> Evolve
>>>>> www.dmevolve.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> AB thank you very much for this information.  You are quite the internet sleuth!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 29, 2009, at 7:21 PM, AB wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> When typing in wildfire.gigya.com I got a "directory not listed" message, see screenshot.
>>>> I went to the gigya.com website. It is a social media and content management internet based company with offices in CA, NY, and Israel. 
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps they can investigate their own security on their servers since the discussion thread mentioned it was a leak in the respective company's network servers.
>>>> 
>>>> here's the contact info for them. 
>>>> 
>>>> Whether you have a comment, a bug to report,
>>>> or a press or business inquiry, please use the following contact information. 
>>>> We will get back to you as soon as possible.
>>>> 
>>>> Liza Hausman, Gigya 
>>>> 650.353.4178 Office 
>>>> 
>>>> Mark Naples, WIT 
>>>> 215.893.0581 Direct
>>>> 646.265.7372 Cell
>>>> Customer Support and Product Feedback Inquiries: support at gigya-inc.com
>>>> 
>>>> Sales related inquiries: sales at gigya-inc.com
>>>> 
>>>> Partner and Business Development Inquiries: bizdev at gigya-inc.com
>>>> 
>>>> Questions Relating to Terms of Use and/or our Privacy Policy: privacy at gigya-inc.com
>>>> Our offices
>>>> 
>>>> Palo Alto Office (Corporate Headquarters)
>>>> 
>>>> 855 El Camino Real
>>>> Building 4, Suite 290
>>>> Palo Alto, CA 94301
>>>> 650.353.7230
>>>> New York Office.
>>>> 
>>>> 817 Broadway, 10th Floor
>>>> New York, NY 10003-4709
>>>> 646.722.8137
>>>> Tel Aviv Office
>>>> 
>>>> 132 Begin road
>>>> Azrieli round tower (13 floor)
>>>> Tel Aviv, Israel 67021
>>>> +972.73.7852400
>>>> 
>>>> --- On Sun, 11/29/09, Victoria L. Herring <vlh at herringlaw.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> From: Victoria L. Herring <vlh at herringlaw.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue
>>>> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>>>> Cc: alan.maupin at gmail.com
>>>> Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 5:57 PM
>>>> 
>>>> you can go to Apple.com and set up a phone support call and explain the whole problem in the message so the person you speak to has an idea of the reason for the support call.  Seems easier than going out to the Apple Store - maybe a first step. 
>>>> I certainly don't know but if you are having things show up in the finder window you might go to the Prefs for Finder and check on what is listed as contents on sidebar =- I don't know what Neighborhood would be other than perhaps you have Bluetooth or Bonjour enabled???  And they/it are picking up signals??
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> The problem is located in Finder application, on the Shared menu, under the submenu All:   random named URL's are showing up and are listed as Neighborhood.
>>>> 
>>>> The most recent URL to show up is "wildfire.gigya.com"
>>>> 
>>>> It does not go away with a reboot.
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone know what causes this issue?  Is it a security issue?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Alan
>>>> 
>>>> <Screen shot 2009-11-29 at 6.11.32 PM.png>_______________________________________________
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From alan.maupin at gmail.com  Wed Dec  2 09:21:08 2009
From: alan.maupin at gmail.com (Alan Maupin)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:21:08 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue (Trojan)
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Jon, I disconnected the ethernet cable from the Airport and connected the DSL Modem directly into my Mac and rebooted.  Nothing changed with the Airport Express removed.


On Dec 2, 2009, at 12:03 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:

> You could always try turning the airport off, plugging a computer into the wired network, and rebooting. This will verify what I am saying. Then reset it back to factory defaults.
> -- 
> Jon Thompson
> Evolve
> www.dmevolve.com
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks - I'll check out the Airport settings again.
> 
> On Dec 1, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Jon Thompson wrote:
> 
>> Yeah, I gathered that. The airport express is what is causing the items to show up on your network. Most likely, there is a "ghee whiz" feature that you checked and forgot about. I don't use Airport Devices for anything other than wireless gateways, so I probably missed the setting.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Jon Thompson
>> Evolve
>> www.dmevolve.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Also - at home I have an Airport Express connected to a DSL modem., but not at this location Internet is provided with Qwest Motorola 3347 DSL Modem/Wireless & Ethernet 4 port Router.
>> 
>> On Dec 1, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>> 
>>> Your airport extreme has the ability to show dynamic bookmarks, which is what these are. I would look in there to see what settings related to bonjour you have turned on.
>>> -- 
>>> Jon Thompson
>>> Evolve
>>> www.dmevolve.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I moved my Mac to a new location across town and connected to a completely different wireless access point with the same Qwest DSL service (may be a different point of presence).   There is nothing in the Share items now.  At my home the Mac Air, MacBook and MacPro would display as they are all setup for sharing, plus the random URLs.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:14 PM, AB wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It's a gremlin!. . .  Or maybe H1N1, bird, swine, west nile flu. Seriously, it'd probably drive me nuts. 
>>>> 
>>>> Alan, Is there an off chance a third party thing in your System Preferences panel is the culprit?
>>>> Does it appear in all the user accounts? Can you make a new user account, and see if it appears? 
>>>> 
>>>> -A.
>>>> 
>>>> --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Jon Thompson <jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> From: Jon Thompson <jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue (Trojan)
>>>> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>>>> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 12:09 PM
>>>> 
>>>> My gut instinct is that it is NOT a virus, however, I wanted to eliminate that as a possibility, which Alan has done. This behavior is a normal behavior of Wide Area Bonjour, which is regulated by your DNS server. I have intentionally configured DNS servers to do this exact thing. However, I have yet to figure out how exactly it is populating the dynamic bookmarks without your prior knowledge, which is what I believe it is doing.
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Jon Thompson
>>>> Evolve
>>>> www.dmevolve.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:34 AM, AB <anastasia_prittee at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> My gut instinctively pegged it for a virus/trojan.... but I've never had one on a Mac. I'd still send a report to the URLs popping up, because it's bad for their reputation, assuming they are a legitimate business. If it's the same URL popping up in the Shared Devices list in the Sidebar, there's the FBI Internet Crimes website you can file a report at in full detail. I did that after I got phishing emails from banks I don't even bank at.
>>>> 
>>>> Can you use Time Machine to restore it to an earlier date?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> From: Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue
>>>> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>>>> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 9:23 AM
>>>> 
>>>> Yes still there.
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I wasn't concerned with the trojan being on your computer as so much as the trojan modifying your DNS settings, which are tied with the mDNS that you see in the Shared list.
>>>> Am I correct in you saying that the items are still there?
>>>> -- 
>>>> Jon Thompson
>>>> Evolve
>>>> www.dmevolve.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Jon here is a newer article that mentions the trojan spoke of in the previous article you sent, with an updated look at Snow Leopards defense: http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4139
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Alan,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Try running the commands in this article, as these types of things could appear if you are using a DNS server that is not one given to you by your ISP.
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.macworld.com/article/60823/2007/10/trojanhorse.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm giving you this as a precaution, as well as to eliminate it as a possibility.
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Jon Thompson
>>>>> Evolve
>>>>> www.dmevolve.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> AB thank you very much for this information.  You are quite the internet sleuth!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 29, 2009, at 7:21 PM, AB wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> When typing in wildfire.gigya.com I got a "directory not listed" message, see screenshot.
>>>> I went to the gigya.com website. It is a social media and content management internet based company with offices in CA, NY, and Israel. 
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps they can investigate their own security on their servers since the discussion thread mentioned it was a leak in the respective company's network servers.
>>>> 
>>>> here's the contact info for them. 
>>>> 
>>>> Whether you have a comment, a bug to report,
>>>> or a press or business inquiry, please use the following contact information. 
>>>> We will get back to you as soon as possible.
>>>> 
>>>> Liza Hausman, Gigya 
>>>> 650.353.4178 Office 
>>>> 
>>>> Mark Naples, WIT 
>>>> 215.893.0581 Direct
>>>> 646.265.7372 Cell
>>>> Customer Support and Product Feedback Inquiries: support at gigya-inc.com
>>>> 
>>>> Sales related inquiries: sales at gigya-inc.com
>>>> 
>>>> Partner and Business Development Inquiries: bizdev at gigya-inc.com
>>>> 
>>>> Questions Relating to Terms of Use and/or our Privacy Policy: privacy at gigya-inc.com
>>>> Our offices
>>>> 
>>>> Palo Alto Office (Corporate Headquarters)
>>>> 
>>>> 855 El Camino Real
>>>> Building 4, Suite 290
>>>> Palo Alto, CA 94301
>>>> 650.353.7230
>>>> New York Office.
>>>> 
>>>> 817 Broadway, 10th Floor
>>>> New York, NY 10003-4709
>>>> 646.722.8137
>>>> Tel Aviv Office
>>>> 
>>>> 132 Begin road
>>>> Azrieli round tower (13 floor)
>>>> Tel Aviv, Israel 67021
>>>> +972.73.7852400
>>>> 
>>>> --- On Sun, 11/29/09, Victoria L. Herring <vlh at herringlaw.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> From: Victoria L. Herring <vlh at herringlaw.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue
>>>> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>>>> Cc: alan.maupin at gmail.com
>>>> Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 5:57 PM
>>>> 
>>>> you can go to Apple.com and set up a phone support call and explain the whole problem in the message so the person you speak to has an idea of the reason for the support call.  Seems easier than going out to the Apple Store - maybe a first step. 
>>>> I certainly don't know but if you are having things show up in the finder window you might go to the Prefs for Finder and check on what is listed as contents on sidebar =- I don't know what Neighborhood would be other than perhaps you have Bluetooth or Bonjour enabled???  And they/it are picking up signals??
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> The problem is located in Finder application, on the Shared menu, under the submenu All:   random named URL's are showing up and are listed as Neighborhood.
>>>> 
>>>> The most recent URL to show up is "wildfire.gigya.com"
>>>> 
>>>> It does not go away with a reboot.
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone know what causes this issue?  Is it a security issue?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Alan
>>>> 
>>>> <Screen shot 2009-11-29 at 6.11.32 PM.png>_______________________________________________
>>>> 
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From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 15:24:18 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] InfoManager for MUGs - Nov. 23rd
Message-ID: <p06240839c73c8b62d925@[10.0.1.192]>

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From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Thu Dec  3 15:20:21 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 15:20:21 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Adobe Acrobat Pro 9 Batch processing
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	maybe a simple Q = if I'm trying to set up a Batch Processing 
Sequence in AAP9, which comes first the chicken or the egg:  do I 
Optimize the PDF file lst and then OCR the scanned PDF or do I do it 
vice versa???

Can I do more with Automator or should I set up the batch processing 
all or almost all in AdobeAcrobat?
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From adk at 52761.com  Thu Dec  3 16:31:56 2009
From: adk at 52761.com (Allen Kiddoo)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 16:31:56 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] google dns
Message-ID: <678823f00912031431wc44a06bj679fc351418ec980@mail.gmail.com>

Google DNS:

8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4


whois 8.8.8.8
Level 3 Communications, Inc. LVLT-ORG-8-8 (NET-8-0-0-0-1)
                                  8.0.0.0 - 8.255.255.255
Google Incorporated LVLT-GOOGL-1-8-8-8 (NET-8-8-8-0-1)
                                  8.8.8.0 - 8.8.8.255

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2009-12-02 20:00

From anastasia_prittee at yahoo.com  Fri Dec  4 08:51:56 2009
From: anastasia_prittee at yahoo.com (AB)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 06:51:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [DM-MUG] Adobe Acrobat Pro 9 Batch processing
In-Reply-To: <p0624082cc73ddaa72787@[10.0.1.192]>
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I'm a big fan of Acrobat Pro. 
OCR then Optimize. In my experience Optimizing then OCR doesn't always work as far as the OCR part goes... doing the OCR first ensures all text gets converted so you can copy/paste/editable text. If you optimize first, the OCR may miss more.

I'd set it up in Adobe batch processing. It's probably going to allow you to control more than Automator. 

-A.

--- On Thu, 12/3/09, Victoria L. Herring <VLH at HerringLaw.com> wrote:

From: Victoria L. Herring <VLH at HerringLaw.com>
Subject: [DM-MUG] Adobe Acrobat Pro 9 Batch processing
To: MacLaw at yahoogroups.com
Cc: "MUG Des Moines" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 2:20 PM

??? maybe a simple Q = if I'm trying to set up a Batch Processing 
Sequence in AAP9, which comes first the chicken or the egg:? do I 
Optimize the PDF file lst and then OCR the scanned PDF or do I do it 
vice versa???

Can I do more with Automator or should I set up the batch processing 
all or almost all in AdobeAcrobat?
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Des Moines, Iowa. Blogs: 
http://blog.JourneyZing.com? [photography]; 
http://www.herringlaw.com? [lawfirm]; 
http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/? [personal]; 
Twitter: VictoriaJZ.
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From woohoowoohoo at me.com  Fri Dec  4 09:58:48 2009
From: woohoowoohoo at me.com (mauri booton)
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:58:48 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Converting .mov file to .wmv or .avi ~ What do I need??
Message-ID: <DBCEC3B2-BFC3-4204-8827-A222BE59CDEF@me.com>

I create electronic signs for a small business and the signs are  
displayed on a big screen display in rotation with other businesses in  
the shopping center. I've been doing this since spring and  
sending .mov files created from Keynote files. I've seen the display  
signs and they are fine. However, with this most recent sign I  
received the following message.

Dennis called today and said that he hadn't seen his aniversary sign  
up on the rotation.  I checked into it and for some reason it was not  
playing.  I checked with the sign company and they said the .mov files  
lose Although Prismview can play .mov files, there is a significant  
amount of data loss after a thousand plays or so.  I would recommend  
that they use a .wmv or a .avi file.  Those files hold up much  
better.   This could be why we are losing these signs in the  
rotation.  Could you resend over the Aniversary sign in a wmv or avi  
format.

What are my options using my iMac? I do have VMWare Fusion  
installed... but minimal Windows software.

Thanks!!

~~ mauri ~~

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From john at createmydvd.com  Fri Dec  4 13:08:57 2009
From: john at createmydvd.com (John Robertson)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 14:08:57 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Converting .mov file to .wmv or .avi ~ What do I need??
In-Reply-To: <DBCEC3B2-BFC3-4204-8827-A222BE59CDEF@me.com>
References: <DBCEC3B2-BFC3-4204-8827-A222BE59CDEF@me.com>
Message-ID: <C169917D-0E4A-4870-8D2B-401D2F4DC3A2@createmydvd.com>

A .mov file will not lose quality or data no matter how many times it  
is played. Files do not lose data when played or executed. The .mov  
file is standard quicktime container which could have a codec of mpeg  
4, h.264 or other codec. This is a very compatible QT file. However,  
not all software plays it well. If you need to convert your .mov  
files to other conatiners or codecs, you will need to upgrade to  
quicktime pro. Converting to an .Avi container is possible using QT  
but QT limits this to .dv codecs which are very large files. QT does  
not support .wmv, however, there is a free 3rd party driver  
(component) made by Flip4Mac that allows QT to play .wmv files.  
Flip4Mac has an upgrade called wmv studio, that allows QT to export  
to a .wmv file (windows media). You can find Flip4Mac at  
www.Flip4Mac.com. I have tried many other wmv converters and this is  
the only one I found to work well.


John Robertson


> I checked with the sign company and they said the .mov files lose  
> Although Prismview can play .mov files, there is a significant  
> amount of data loss after a thousand plays or so.  I would  
> recommend that they use a .wmv or a .avi file.  Those files hold up  
> much better.   This could be why we are losing these signs in the  
> rotation.  Could you resend over the Aniversary sign in a wmv or  
> avi format.
>
> What are my options using my iMac? I do have VMWare Fusion  
> installed... but minimal Windows software.
>
> Thanks!!
>
> ~~ mauri ~~

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From john at createmydvd.com  Fri Dec  4 15:42:33 2009
From: john at createmydvd.com (John Robertson)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 16:42:33 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Converting .mov file to .wmv or .avi ~ What do I need??
In-Reply-To: <DBCEC3B2-BFC3-4204-8827-A222BE59CDEF@me.com>
References: <DBCEC3B2-BFC3-4204-8827-A222BE59CDEF@me.com>
Message-ID: <71B4B5E8-2B07-4A84-81A9-23515771AF2D@createmydvd.com>

Mauri,

Let me sum up what I said.  Please keep in mind that I don't know if  
windows has a free way to do this.

1) Upgrade your quicktime to QT Pro by choosing the 'Buy' option  
under the 'Quicktime Player" Menu. (Cost $29.99)

Stop here to make an AVI FIle. or continue to step 2 for .wmv
      -Open your .mov movie in quicktime and choose Export under the  
'File' Menu.
      -Select 'Export to AVI' from the Export box on the screen.
      -Give the file a name and choose folder you want it saved in.
      -Click on Save
      -That's it

To export as a .wmv file using Flip4Mac (Cost $49)

2) Purchase WMV Studio from www.FLip4Mac.com and follow the screen  
prompts to install.
      -Open your .mov movie in quicktime and choose Export under the  
'File' Menu.
      -Select 'Export to Windows Media from the Export box on the  
screen.
      -Give the file a name and choose folder you want it saved in.
      -Click on Save
      -That's it

I hope this helps.

From abennett515 at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 23:08:06 2009
From: abennett515 at gmail.com (Angela Bennett)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:08:06 -0700
Subject: [DM-MUG] Activate dmmug.wordpress.com
In-Reply-To: <6aebd8fe7f60abfe4729fd1785f6ee41@en.wordpress.com>
References: <6aebd8fe7f60abfe4729fd1785f6ee41@en.wordpress.com>
Message-ID: <2af6ef690912042108t74102858pc1c9bd238f2f7680@mail.gmail.com>

Hello, Hello! A new wordpress account is in the works. If you are interested
in posting and publishing articles/entries, and links on the DMMUG account
please send an email with the Subject line: DMMUG WordPress Add Me

Wordpress requires an account in order to do so. The DMMUG website will
still remain with pre-2010 content. In 2010 we will being conversion to make
DMMUG more member friendly and less single webmaster dependent to serve the
changing needs. DMMUG will try to integrate the two with minimal visible
disruption to the existing website. Comments and suggestions are welcome.

DMMUG's official wordpress link is: www.dmmug.wordpress.org

Thanks!


* * * * * * * * * *
Angela Bennett
professional: abennett515 at gmail.com
portfolio: www.spraygraphic.com/abennett515
blogs: www.crazya.wordpress.com; www.madeinsouthkorea.wordpress.com
Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/abennett515
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From rbowler at mchsi.com  Sat Dec  5 00:16:55 2009
From: rbowler at mchsi.com (Ray Bowler)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 00:16:55 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] wireless channel
Message-ID: <14869F43-B124-46AD-BDF7-7634EDDE4B5D@mchsi.com>

My wife has been having trouble loosing her Airport connection fairly  
often. Her Mac Book is near a cordless phone and it looks like the  
interruption occurs when the phone is in use. If she turns the Airport  
off and then on it reconnects.  I just noticed that "use interference  
robustness" was turned off (thought it was on) so I turned it on and  
will see if if that helps. I was looking at the setting for channel  
and the base station is set for automatic and is using channel 2.  
Could it help to select another channel and if so will the two client  
machines automatically change their channels?

Ray Bowler

rbowler.home.mchsi.com




From anastasia_prittee at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  5 00:33:01 2009
From: anastasia_prittee at yahoo.com (AB)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:33:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [DM-MUG] wireless channel
In-Reply-To: <14869F43-B124-46AD-BDF7-7634EDDE4B5D@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <476789.10721.qm@web110310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Yes, try another channel, and try adding a DSL line filter between the phone and the wall jack. Otherwise you may have to physically move the phone's base, the mac book, or the airport 3 feet away from each other to reduce interference. I had a cordless phone once interfere with my remote for my dvd and tv. I've also had a cordless phone interfere with wireless internet connection. Cordless phones keep being made with higher frequencies for a stronger signal. However it increases the likelihood of interference.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

-A.


--- On Fri, 12/4/09, Ray Bowler <rbowler at mchsi.com> wrote:

From: Ray Bowler <rbowler at mchsi.com>
Subject: [DM-MUG] wireless channel
To: "DMMug Dmmug" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 11:16 PM

My wife has been having trouble loosing her Airport connection fairly? 
often. Her Mac Book is near a cordless phone and it looks like the? 
interruption occurs when the phone is in use. If she turns the Airport? 
off and then on it reconnects.? I just noticed that "use interference? 
robustness" was turned off (thought it was on) so I turned it on and? 
will see if if that helps. I was looking at the setting for channel? 
and the base station is set for automatic and is using channel 2.? 
Could it help to select another channel and if so will the two client? 
machines automatically change their channels?

Ray Bowler
rbowler.home.mchsi.com




      
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From anastasia_prittee at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  5 00:37:04 2009
From: anastasia_prittee at yahoo.com (AB)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:37:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [DM-MUG] wireless channel
In-Reply-To: <476789.10721.qm@web110310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <245460.28685.qm@web110312.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

You may have to reset up your airport settings on the two client machines if they don't automatically register the channel change themselves. I can't precisely recall how to do this. My airport on my mac only works once in a blue moon if at all.

--- On Fri, 12/4/09, AB <anastasia_prittee at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: AB <anastasia_prittee at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] wireless channel
To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 11:33 PM

Yes, try another channel, and try adding a DSL line filter between the phone and the wall jack. Otherwise you may have to physically move the phone's base, the mac book, or the airport 3 feet away from each other to reduce interference. I had a cordless phone once interfere with my remote for my dvd and tv. I've also had a cordless phone interfere with wireless internet connection. Cordless phones keep being made with higher frequencies for a stronger signal. However it increases the likelihood of interference.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

-A.


--- On Fri, 12/4/09, Ray Bowler <rbowler at mchsi.com> wrote:

From: Ray Bowler <rbowler at mchsi.com>
Subject: [DM-MUG] wireless channel
To: "DMMug Dmmug" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 11:16 PM

My wife has
 been having trouble loosing her Airport connection fairly? 
often. Her Mac Book is near a cordless phone and it looks like the? 
interruption occurs when the phone is in use. If she turns the Airport? 
off and then on it reconnects.? I just noticed that "use interference? 
robustness" was turned off (thought it was on) so I turned it on and? 
will see if if that helps. I was looking at the setting for channel? 
and the base station is set for automatic and is using channel 2.? 
Could it help to select another channel and if so will the two client? 
machines automatically change their channels?

Ray Bowler
rbowler.home.mchsi.com





      
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From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Sat Dec  5 05:09:43 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 05:09:43 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Activate dmmug.wordpress.com
In-Reply-To: <2af6ef690912042108t74102858pc1c9bd238f2f7680@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6aebd8fe7f60abfe4729fd1785f6ee41@en.wordpress.com>
	<2af6ef690912042108t74102858pc1c9bd238f2f7680@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <p06240803c73fefad95cb@[10.0.1.192]>

I think this is great and should make the website/blog/whatever more 
accessible for those doing reviews [for all those FREE Take Control 
books and other software gifties] and sharing wisdom.  No need for 
everyone to jump in or on just yet but it'll be a big help for us all.
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Des Moines, Iowa. Blogs: 
http://blog.JourneyZing.com  [photography]; 
http://www.herringlaw.com  [lawfirm]; 
http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/  [personal]; 
Twitter: VictoriaJZ.

From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Sat Dec  5 10:38:27 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 10:38:27 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] From O'Reilley Media ref. Mac books etc.
Message-ID: <p06240806c7403cdead30@[10.0.1.192]>

Hi,
Can you pass along the following limited time discount to your members?
Special offer for O'Reilly User Group program members: Along with 
your 35% discount off print books, you can now get 45% off all ebooks 
you purchase direct from oreilly.com for a limited time.
When you buy an O'Reilly ebook you get lifetime access to the book, 
and whenever possible we make it available to you in four, DRM-free 
file formats--PDF, .epub, Kindle-compatible .mobi, and Android 
ebook--that you can use on the devices of your choice. Our ebook 
files are fully searchable, and you can cut-and-paste and print them. 
We also alert you when we've updated the files with corrections and 
additions.
Just use code DSUG when ordering online at www.oreilly.com/store
Read more about our ebook formats and the ways to use them here: 
http://oreilly.com/ebooks

Until next time--
Marsee Henon

-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Des Moines, Iowa. Blogs: 
http://blog.JourneyZing.com  [photography]; 
http://www.herringlaw.com  [lawfirm]; 
http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/  [personal]; 
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From alan.maupin at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 12:22:32 2009
From: alan.maupin at gmail.com (Alan Maupin)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 12:22:32 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
Message-ID: <806AFC0F-8D53-48D7-8F69-BE26A38B10D6@gmail.com>

I'm asking for advice for a friend on Internet service in Ankeny.  It's been awhile since I've negotiated a deal and I'm not sure of what to tell her.  She's been offered two deals:   Qwest 7 mbps for $41 per month and Mediacom 8 mbps for $39.  Since the price and download speeds are very similar what other criteria should she consider?  One possible negative is the fact that Qwest requires a two year contract.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance -alan




From djweis at internetsolver.com  Sat Dec  5 12:35:21 2009
From: djweis at internetsolver.com (Dave Weis)
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:35:21 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
In-Reply-To: <806AFC0F-8D53-48D7-8F69-BE26A38B10D6@gmail.com>
References: <806AFC0F-8D53-48D7-8F69-BE26A38B10D6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B1AA7E9.3070605@internetsolver.com>


I would advise Qwest, they have a better network and are capable of 
delivering the speed they are selling. If they are selling 7 megs it's 
either from a fiber-fed system or she is close to the central office so 
speeds will be consistent. Worst case repair time for DSL is half to 
quarter of the time of cable also.

dave



Alan Maupin wrote:
> I'm asking for advice for a friend on Internet service in Ankeny.  It's been awhile since I've negotiated a deal and I'm not sure of what to tell her.  She's been offered two deals:   Qwest 7 mbps for $41 per month and Mediacom 8 mbps for $39.  Since the price and download speeds are very similar what other criteria should she consider?  One possible negative is the fact that Qwest requires a two year contract.
> 
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance -alan
> 
> 
> 
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-- 
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From rbowler at mchsi.com  Sat Dec  5 12:59:57 2009
From: rbowler at mchsi.com (Ray Bowler)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 12:59:57 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
In-Reply-To: <806AFC0F-8D53-48D7-8F69-BE26A38B10D6@gmail.com>
References: <806AFC0F-8D53-48D7-8F69-BE26A38B10D6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7E99C080-6C7C-4782-95EE-41B05FD8C555@mchsi.com>

Alan,

I agree with David. I would go with Qwest DSL. When Mediacom is  
working it is fine but I have had several times when their server is  
down for several days. When the problem seems to be at my end it can  
take 3 or 4 days to get someone out here to fix it.

On Dec 5, 2009, at Dec 5, 200912:22 PM, Alan Maupin wrote:

> I'm asking for advice for a friend on Internet service in Ankeny.   
> It's been awhile since I've negotiated a deal and I'm not sure of  
> what to tell her.  She's been offered two deals:   Qwest 7 mbps for  
> $41 per month and Mediacom 8 mbps for $39.  Since the price and  
> download speeds are very similar what other criteria should she  
> consider?  One possible negative is the fact that Qwest requires a  
> two year contract.
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance -alan
>
>
>
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From djweis at internetsolver.com  Sat Dec  5 13:05:48 2009
From: djweis at internetsolver.com (Dave Weis)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 19:05:48 +0000
Subject: [DM-MUG] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
Message-ID: <1974987951-1260039952-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-74782391-@bda056.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>


And just so the people that know me well don't think I've lost my self promotion skills, I recommend our DSL if you are in the more central area of the metro. 

------Original Message------
From: Ray Bowler
Sender: dmmug-bounces at dmmug.org
To: Des Moines Mac Users Group
ReplyTo: Des Moines Mac Users Group
Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
Sent: Dec 5, 2009 12:59 PM

Alan,

I agree with David. I would go with Qwest DSL. When Mediacom is  
working it is fine but I have had several times when their server is  
down for several days. When the problem seems to be at my end it can  
take 3 or 4 days to get someone out here to fix it.

On Dec 5, 2009, at Dec 5, 200912:22 PM, Alan Maupin wrote:

> I'm asking for advice for a friend on Internet service in Ankeny.   
> It's been awhile since I've negotiated a deal and I'm not sure of  
> what to tell her.  She's been offered two deals:   Qwest 7 mbps for  
> $41 per month and Mediacom 8 mbps for $39.  Since the price and  
> download speeds are very similar what other criteria should she  
> consider?  One possible negative is the fact that Qwest requires a  
> two year contract.
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance -alan
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> DMMUG mailing list
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> DMMUG at dmmug.org
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Ray Bowler

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From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Sat Dec  5 13:08:25 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 13:08:25 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
In-Reply-To: <7E99C080-6C7C-4782-95EE-41B05FD8C555@mchsi.com>
References: <806AFC0F-8D53-48D7-8F69-BE26A38B10D6@gmail.com>
	<7E99C080-6C7C-4782-95EE-41B05FD8C555@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <p06240809c7405fdb8133@[10.0.1.192]>

>Alan,
>
>I agree with David. I would go with Qwest DSL. When Mediacom is 
>working it is fine but I have had several times when their server is 
>down for several days. When the problem seems to be at my end it can
>take 3 or 4 days to get someone out here to fix it.

I'm sure you and Dave are right, but I use my computer virtually 18 
hours a day on Mediacom and have had very few - no- server 
issues...It's usually a weather problem.  Maybe the server is the 
assigned to your locale [since I'm in DM maybe that's it...] so it 
may depend on where the person is connecting from and to.
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Des Moines, Iowa. Blogs: 
http://blog.JourneyZing.com  [photography]; 
http://www.herringlaw.com  [lawfirm]; 
http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/  [personal]; 
Twitter: VictoriaJZ.

From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Sat Dec  5 13:14:51 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 13:14:51 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Q ref firewall communication port 3689: Apple TV not
 syncing with iTunes
Message-ID: <p0624080ac740602d94a9@[10.0.1.192]>

I have checked the Apple site and discussions and talked just now to 
an Expert but can't find an answer and thought I would ask here in 
case someone has had the same issue.

I have an Apple TV which was running 2.0 and upgraded to 3+ - 
iTunes9.0.2, Snow Leopard, now.  Before I had ATV 2 and iTunes9+ and 
10.5.8...no problems at all using the ATV.

Upgraded ATV to 3+ and computer to SnowLeopard...although the ATV 
shows up in the Devices area of the iTunes, it can't connect to the 
library.

Network is fine.  ATV can see theatrical trailers and play music from 
internet.  I did a wipe of the ATV and reinstalled factory defaults 
and set it up again, upgraded the software to 3 and tried again.  It 
is seen in the iTunes but when I hit Sync it says the ATV is not 
responding "check that any firewall software running on this comptuer 
has been set to allow communication on port 3689."

I did not have the software firewall running.  I did have 
VirusBarrier X5 running [no problems using it and having ATV working 
before this] but did turn it off for a bit while I am troubleshooting.

I have aNetgear GS108 switch [not router, no ports to set up] and 
just talked to the cable company which says its modem/router doesn't 
have such selections.  It's a 'bare' broadband modem.

So, there's no place to set port 3689 that I can find.  None of the 
pieces of hardware has any problelm, network is fine.  Internet is 
fine.

But ATV won't sync with iTunes.
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Des Moines, Iowa. Blogs: 
http://blog.JourneyZing.com  [photography]; 
http://www.herringlaw.com  [lawfirm]; 
http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/  [personal]; 
Twitter: VictoriaJZ.

From chris at kavanaughgallery.com  Sat Dec  5 13:16:51 2009
From: chris at kavanaughgallery.com (Chris)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 13:16:51 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
In-Reply-To: <1974987951-1260039952-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-74782391-@bda056.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <1974987951-1260039952-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-74782391-@bda056.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <D9D699AC-6BE9-4C1C-9640-550B0D421C0B@kavanaughgallery.com>

Dave-I was going to recommend you, internet solver does the DSL for  
my work and they have always been helpful and reliable.  I had  
mediacom for about a year and the product is intermittent at best and  
the service is horrible. We would have outages at least a couple  
times a month, every month. I would get a different excuse from every  
different CSR I would talk to. They would promise credits for time  
unusable that would never appear on my bill. A couple of years ago  
mediacom was much faster than qwest but I chose qwest. Good luck Chris

On Dec 5, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Dave Weis wrote:

>
> And just so the people that know me well don't think I've lost my  
> self promotion skills, I recommend our DSL if you are in the more  
> central area of the metro.
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Ray Bowler
> Sender: dmmug-bounces at dmmug.org
> To: Des Moines Mac Users Group
> ReplyTo: Des Moines Mac Users Group
> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
> Sent: Dec 5, 2009 12:59 PM
>
> Alan,
>
> I agree with David. I would go with Qwest DSL. When Mediacom is
> working it is fine but I have had several times when their server is
> down for several days. When the problem seems to be at my end it can
> take 3 or 4 days to get someone out here to fix it.
>
> On Dec 5, 2009, at Dec 5, 200912:22 PM, Alan Maupin wrote:
>
>> I'm asking for advice for a friend on Internet service in Ankeny.
>> It's been awhile since I've negotiated a deal and I'm not sure of
>> what to tell her.  She's been offered two deals:   Qwest 7 mbps for
>> $41 per month and Mediacom 8 mbps for $39.  Since the price and
>> download speeds are very similar what other criteria should she
>> consider?  One possible negative is the fact that Qwest requires a
>> two year contract.
>>
>> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks in advance -alan
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> DMMUG mailing list
>> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
>> DMMUG at dmmug.org
>> Use this page to modify subscription options:
>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug
>
> Ray Bowler
>
> rbowler.home.mchsi.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> DMMUG mailing list
> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
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Chris
chris at kavanaughgallery.com




From thorgrim at imaginarytower.org  Sat Dec  5 13:21:30 2009
From: thorgrim at imaginarytower.org (David McLaughlin)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 13:21:30 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Q ref firewall communication port 3689: Apple TV not
	syncing with iTunes
In-Reply-To: <p0624080ac740602d94a9@[10.0.1.192]>
References: <p0624080ac740602d94a9@[10.0.1.192]>
Message-ID: <99095FB1-3B60-4B5B-B030-30E1B4591DC6@imaginarytower.org>

> So, there's no place to set port 3689 that I can find.  None of the
> pieces of hardware has any problelm, network is fine.  Internet is
> fine.

Try System Preferences -> Secuirty -> Firewall and try setting to  
"Allow all incoming connections", if you haven't already.  Then try  
again.

David McLaughlin

From djweis at internetsolver.com  Sat Dec  5 13:23:52 2009
From: djweis at internetsolver.com (Dave Weis)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 19:23:52 +0000
Subject: [DM-MUG] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
In-Reply-To: <D9D699AC-6BE9-4C1C-9640-550B0D421C0B@kavanaughgallery.com>
References: <1974987951-1260039952-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-74782391-@bda056.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><D9D699AC-6BE9-4C1C-9640-550B0D421C0B@kavanaughgallery.com>
Message-ID: <876234903-1260041036-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-542585635-@bda056.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>


I appreciate the compliment. We work hard at service and support. 



-----Original Message-----
From: Chris <chris at kavanaughgallery.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 13:16:51 
To: <djweis at internetsolver.com>; Des Moines Mac Users Group<dmmug at dmmug.org>
Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice

Dave-I was going to recommend you, internet solver does the DSL for  
my work and they have always been helpful and reliable.  I had  
mediacom for about a year and the product is intermittent at best and  
the service is horrible. We would have outages at least a couple  
times a month, every month. I would get a different excuse from every  
different CSR I would talk to. They would promise credits for time  
unusable that would never appear on my bill. A couple of years ago  
mediacom was much faster than qwest but I chose qwest. Good luck Chris

On Dec 5, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Dave Weis wrote:

>
> And just so the people that know me well don't think I've lost my  
> self promotion skills, I recommend our DSL if you are in the more  
> central area of the metro.
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Ray Bowler
> Sender: dmmug-bounces at dmmug.org
> To: Des Moines Mac Users Group
> ReplyTo: Des Moines Mac Users Group
> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
> Sent: Dec 5, 2009 12:59 PM
>
> Alan,
>
> I agree with David. I would go with Qwest DSL. When Mediacom is
> working it is fine but I have had several times when their server is
> down for several days. When the problem seems to be at my end it can
> take 3 or 4 days to get someone out here to fix it.
>
> On Dec 5, 2009, at Dec 5, 200912:22 PM, Alan Maupin wrote:
>
>> I'm asking for advice for a friend on Internet service in Ankeny.
>> It's been awhile since I've negotiated a deal and I'm not sure of
>> what to tell her.  She's been offered two deals:   Qwest 7 mbps for
>> $41 per month and Mediacom 8 mbps for $39.  Since the price and
>> download speeds are very similar what other criteria should she
>> consider?  One possible negative is the fact that Qwest requires a
>> two year contract.
>>
>> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks in advance -alan
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> DMMUG mailing list
>> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
>> DMMUG at dmmug.org
>> Use this page to modify subscription options:
>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug
>
> Ray Bowler
>
> rbowler.home.mchsi.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> DMMUG mailing list
> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
> DMMUG at dmmug.org
> Use this page to modify subscription options:
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>
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Chris
chris at kavanaughgallery.com



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From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Sat Dec  5 13:52:31 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 13:52:31 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Q ref firewall communication port 3689: Apple TV not
 syncing with iTunes
In-Reply-To: <99095FB1-3B60-4B5B-B030-30E1B4591DC6@imaginarytower.org>
References: <p0624080ac740602d94a9@[10.0.1.192]>
	<99095FB1-3B60-4B5B-B030-30E1B4591DC6@imaginarytower.org>
Message-ID: <p06240810c7406a20e991@[10.0.1.192]>

in SnowLeopard you start with FW off and it is presently off...when I 
was techshooting earlier we tried it to allow all connecitons and 
also specifically iTunes and nothing changed.,  Right now I'm on hold 
with Apple...still techshooting it...there is a long thread at the 
Discussions forum area ref. the 3689 issue....I hope internal Apple 
folks can come upwith answer but I'll multitask and if there are 
otehr suggestions just let me know.
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Des Moines, Iowa. Blogs: 
http://blog.JourneyZing.com  [photography]; 
http://www.herringlaw.com  [lawfirm]; 
http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/  [personal]; 
Twitter: VictoriaJZ.

From cwsmith7 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 16:17:22 2009
From: cwsmith7 at gmail.com (CW Smith)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 16:17:22 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Fwd:  OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
References: <876234903-1260041036-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-542585635-@bda056.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <A518CDD4-2C25-4E6D-B13B-F00083BE07B1@gmail.com>

Don't forget Freese Notis -- they use Qwest's network but their cust  
svc (especially Mac support) is much better. Local contacts too -- you  
won't be talking to someone in Calcutta.

---------------------------------------------
CW Smith
Windows & Macintosh repair
Apple Certified Mac Technician

(515) 577-1716
cwsmith7 at gmail.com

"Guitar, bass, percussion, Mac"
www.cwsmith.fm
---------------------------------------------

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Dave Weis" <djweis at internetsolver.com>
> Date: December 5, 2009 1:23:52 PM CST
> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
> Reply-To: djweis at internetsolver.com, Des Moines Mac Users Group <dmmug at dmmug.org 
> >
>

>
> I appreciate the compliment. We work hard at service and support.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris <chris at kavanaughgallery.com>
> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 13:16:51
> To: <djweis at internetsolver.com>; Des Moines Mac Users Group<dmmug at dmmug.org 
> >
> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
>
> Dave-I was going to recommend you, internet solver does the DSL for
> my work and they have always been helpful and reliable.  I had
> mediacom for about a year and the product is intermittent at best and
> the service is horrible. We would have outages at least a couple
> times a month, every month. I would get a different excuse from every
> different CSR I would talk to. They would promise credits for time
> unusable that would never appear on my bill. A couple of years ago
> mediacom was much faster than qwest but I chose qwest. Good luck Chris
>
> On Dec 5, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Dave Weis wrote:
>
>>
>> And just so the people that know me well don't think I've lost my
>> self promotion skills, I recommend our DSL if you are in the more
>> central area of the metro.
>>
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: Ray Bowler
>> Sender: dmmug-bounces at dmmug.org
>> To: Des Moines Mac Users Group
>> ReplyTo: Des Moines Mac Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
>> Sent: Dec 5, 2009 12:59 PM
>>
>> Alan,
>>
>> I agree with David. I would go with Qwest DSL. When Mediacom is
>> working it is fine but I have had several times when their server is
>> down for several days. When the problem seems to be at my end it can
>> take 3 or 4 days to get someone out here to fix it.
>>
>> On Dec 5, 2009, at Dec 5, 200912:22 PM, Alan Maupin wrote:
>>
>>> I'm asking for advice for a friend on Internet service in Ankeny.
>>> It's been awhile since I've negotiated a deal and I'm not sure of
>>> what to tell her.  She's been offered two deals:   Qwest 7 mbps for
>>> $41 per month and Mediacom 8 mbps for $39.  Since the price and
>>> download speeds are very similar what other criteria should she
>>> consider?  One possible negative is the fact that Qwest requires a
>>> two year contract.
>>>
>>> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance -alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> DMMUG mailing list
>>> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
>>> DMMUG at dmmug.org
>>> Use this page to modify subscription options:
>>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug
>>
>> Ray Bowler
>>
>> rbowler.home.mchsi.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> DMMUG mailing list
>> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
>> DMMUG at dmmug.org
>> Use this page to modify subscription options:
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>>
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>> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
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>> Use this page to modify subscription options:
>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug
>
> Chris
> chris at kavanaughgallery.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From nfox at foxmediasystems.com  Sat Dec  5 17:13:43 2009
From: nfox at foxmediasystems.com (Nick Fox)
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 17:13:43 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] [Cialug] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
In-Reply-To: <806AFC0F-8D53-48D7-8F69-BE26A38B10D6@gmail.com>
References: <806AFC0F-8D53-48D7-8F69-BE26A38B10D6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B1AE927.9030603@foxmediasystems.com>

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The Basic pros/cons for DSL cable are:

With DSL you pay for the bandwidth which means you don't share with your
neighbors, and if needed you can get a true static IP.

Qwest DSL modems all suck along with their customer service, you can
however get around this by getting the ISP through Freese-Notis.

Mediacom is a real pain to deal with on anything, the only real upside
to cable over DSL is the fact that they don't block out the basic cable
TV on the line. Otherwise Mediacom tries to insert advertising into
everything and redirect search results and so on.

In my opinion they both tend to have issues but for a home use it really
boils down to if you plan to package deal with TV/Phone service or not.

- -Nick

Alan Maupin wrote:
> I'm asking for advice for a friend on Internet service in Ankeny.  It's been awhile since I've negotiated a deal and I'm not sure of what to tell her.  She's been offered two deals:   Qwest 7 mbps for $41 per month and Mediacom 8 mbps for $39.  Since the price and download speeds are very similar what other criteria should she consider?  One possible negative is the fact that Qwest requires a two year contract.
> 
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance -alan
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug


- --
Nick Fox

Fox Media Systems, LLC
Owner / President
1338 57th St.
Des Moines, IA 50311
www.foxmediasystems.com
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From alan.maupin at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 20:05:24 2009
From: alan.maupin at gmail.com (Alan Maupin)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 20:05:24 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Fwd:  OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
In-Reply-To: <A518CDD4-2C25-4E6D-B13B-F00083BE07B1@gmail.com>
References: <876234903-1260041036-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-542585635-@bda056.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
	<A518CDD4-2C25-4E6D-B13B-F00083BE07B1@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6EFBF76C-D33D-4C88-A81B-9524267873F3@gmail.com>

I spoke with Freese Notis and their fee is $57 a month for 7 mbps.  



On Dec 5, 2009, at 4:17 PM, CW Smith wrote:

> Don't forget Freese Notis -- they use Qwest's network but their cust svc (especially Mac support) is much better. Local contacts too -- you won't be talking to someone in Calcutta.
> 
> ---------------------------------------------
> CW Smith
> Windows & Macintosh repair
> Apple Certified Mac Technician
> 
> (515) 577-1716
> cwsmith7 at gmail.com
> 
> "Guitar, bass, percussion, Mac"
> www.cwsmith.fm
> ---------------------------------------------
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: "Dave Weis" <djweis at internetsolver.com>
>> Date: December 5, 2009 1:23:52 PM CST
>> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
>> Reply-To: djweis at internetsolver.com, Des Moines Mac Users Group <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>> 
>> 
>> I appreciate the compliment. We work hard at service and support. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chris <chris at kavanaughgallery.com>
>> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 13:16:51 
>> To: <djweis at internetsolver.com>; Des Moines Mac Users Group<dmmug at dmmug.org>
>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
>> 
>> Dave-I was going to recommend you, internet solver does the DSL for  
>> my work and they have always been helpful and reliable.  I had  
>> mediacom for about a year and the product is intermittent at best and  
>> the service is horrible. We would have outages at least a couple  
>> times a month, every month. I would get a different excuse from every  
>> different CSR I would talk to. They would promise credits for time  
>> unusable that would never appear on my bill. A couple of years ago  
>> mediacom was much faster than qwest but I chose qwest. Good luck Chris
>> 
>> On Dec 5, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Dave Weis wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> And just so the people that know me well don't think I've lost my  
>>> self promotion skills, I recommend our DSL if you are in the more  
>>> central area of the metro.
>>> 
>>> ------Original Message------
>>> From: Ray Bowler
>>> Sender: dmmug-bounces at dmmug.org
>>> To: Des Moines Mac Users Group
>>> ReplyTo: Des Moines Mac Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
>>> Sent: Dec 5, 2009 12:59 PM
>>> 
>>> Alan,
>>> 
>>> I agree with David. I would go with Qwest DSL. When Mediacom is
>>> working it is fine but I have had several times when their server is
>>> down for several days. When the problem seems to be at my end it can
>>> take 3 or 4 days to get someone out here to fix it.
>>> 
>>> On Dec 5, 2009, at Dec 5, 200912:22 PM, Alan Maupin wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'm asking for advice for a friend on Internet service in Ankeny.
>>>> It's been awhile since I've negotiated a deal and I'm not sure of
>>>> what to tell her.  She's been offered two deals:   Qwest 7 mbps for
>>>> $41 per month and Mediacom 8 mbps for $39.  Since the price and
>>>> download speeds are very similar what other criteria should she
>>>> consider?  One possible negative is the fact that Qwest requires a
>>>> two year contract.
>>>> 
>>>> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance -alan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> DMMUG mailing list
>>>> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
>>>> DMMUG at dmmug.org
>>>> Use this page to modify subscription options:
>>>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug
>>> 
>>> Ray Bowler
>>> 
>>> rbowler.home.mchsi.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> DMMUG mailing list
>>> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
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>> 
>> Chris
>> chris at kavanaughgallery.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com  Mon Dec  7 13:16:07 2009
From: jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com (Jon Thompson)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:16:07 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue (Trojan)
In-Reply-To: <19ADDE4A-B7F1-41A4-9B9E-A6828EB1ACC8@gmail.com>
References: <913624.1976.qm@web110309.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<D5075FE8-F78D-41E5-89C8-EF9A5DF15329@gmail.com>
	<865f37f30912010938y79c5c305rb33ef23fe32b9f59@mail.gmail.com>
	<8759ECEB-4ABB-4C86-B9B2-C683DE50DBFB@gmail.com>
	<865f37f30912011343v44400930i703d385cde44ce3e@mail.gmail.com>
	<34D1F2E7-F9AB-4322-87A6-2DC186897478@gmail.com>
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	<19ADDE4A-B7F1-41A4-9B9E-A6828EB1ACC8@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <865f37f30912071116h24b56a94rb1c866ca54c78eae@mail.gmail.com>

Next I would shut down each computer, and bring them back online one at a
time until the items re-appear.
-- 
Jon Thompson
Evolve
www.dmevolve.com


On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jon, I disconnected the ethernet cable from the Airport and connected the
> DSL Modem directly into my Mac and rebooted.  Nothing changed with the
> Airport Express removed.
>
>
> On Dec 2, 2009, at 12:03 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>
> You could always try turning the airport off, plugging a computer into the
> wired network, and rebooting. This will verify what I am saying. Then reset
> it back to factory defaults.
> --
> Jon Thompson
> Evolve
> www.dmevolve.com
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks - I'll check out the Airport settings again.
>>
>> On Dec 1, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, I gathered that. The airport express is what is causing the items to
>> show up on your network. Most likely, there is a "ghee whiz" feature that
>> you checked and forgot about. I don't use Airport Devices for anything other
>> than wireless gateways, so I probably missed the setting.
>>
>> --
>> Jon Thompson
>> Evolve
>> www.dmevolve.com
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Also - at home I have an Airport Express connected to a DSL modem., but
>>> not at this location Internet is provided with Qwest Motorola 3347 DSL
>>> Modem/Wireless & Ethernet 4 port Router.
>>>
>>> On Dec 1, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>>>
>>> Your airport extreme has the ability to show dynamic bookmarks, which is
>>> what these are. I would look in there to see what settings related to
>>> bonjour you have turned on.
>>> --
>>> Jon Thompson
>>> Evolve
>>> www.dmevolve.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I moved my Mac to a new location across town and connected to a
>>>> completely different wireless access point with the same Qwest DSL service
>>>> (may be a different point of presence).   There is nothing in the Share
>>>> items now.  At my home the Mac Air, MacBook and MacPro would display as they
>>>> are all setup for sharing, plus the random URLs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:14 PM, AB wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It's a gremlin!. . .  Or maybe H1N1, bird, swine, west nile flu.
>>>> Seriously, it'd probably drive me nuts.
>>>>
>>>> Alan, Is there an off chance a third party thing in your System
>>>> Preferences panel is the culprit?
>>>> Does it appear in all the user accounts? Can you make a new user
>>>> account, and see if it appears?
>>>>
>>>> -A.
>>>>
>>>> --- On *Mon, 11/30/09, Jon Thompson <jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com>*wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: Jon Thompson <jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue (Trojan)
>>>> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>>>> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 12:09 PM
>>>>
>>>> My gut instinct is that it is NOT a virus, however, I wanted to
>>>> eliminate that as a possibility, which Alan has done. This behavior is a
>>>> normal behavior of Wide Area Bonjour, which is regulated by your DNS server.
>>>> I have intentionally configured DNS servers to do this exact thing. However,
>>>> I have yet to figure out how exactly it is populating the dynamic bookmarks
>>>> without your prior knowledge, which is what I believe it is doing.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jon Thompson
>>>> Evolve
>>>> www.dmevolve.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:34 AM, AB <anastasia_prittee at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  My gut instinctively pegged it for a virus/trojan.... but I've never
>>>> had one on a Mac. I'd still send a report to the URLs popping up, because
>>>> it's bad for their reputation, assuming they are a legitimate business. If
>>>> it's the same URL popping up in the Shared Devices list in the Sidebar,
>>>> there's the FBI Internet Crimes website you can file a report at in full
>>>> detail. I did that after I got phishing emails from banks I don't even bank
>>>> at.
>>>>
>>>> Can you use Time Machine to restore it to an earlier date?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On *Mon, 11/30/09, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue
>>>> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>>>> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 9:23 AM
>>>>
>>>> Yes still there.
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I wasn't concerned with the trojan being on your computer as so much as
>>>> the trojan modifying your DNS settings, which are tied with the mDNS that
>>>> you see in the Shared list.
>>>> Am I correct in you saying that the items are still there?
>>>> --
>>>> Jon Thompson
>>>> Evolve
>>>> www.dmevolve.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=alan.maupin at gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jon here is a newer article that mentions the trojan spoke of in the
>>>> previous article you sent, with an updated look at Snow Leopards defense:
>>>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4139
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 30, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Jon Thompson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Alan,
>>>>
>>>> Try running the commands in this article, as these types of things could
>>>> appear if you are using a DNS server that is not one given to you by your
>>>> ISP.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.macworld.com/article/60823/2007/10/trojanhorse.html
>>>>
>>>> I'm giving you this as a precaution, as well as to eliminate it as a
>>>> possibility.
>>>> --
>>>> Jon Thompson
>>>> Evolve
>>>> www.dmevolve.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=alan.maupin at gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> AB thank you very much for this information.  You are quite the
>>>>> internet sleuth!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 29, 2009, at 7:21 PM, AB wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  When typing in wildfire.gigya.com I got a "directory not listed"
>>>> message, see screenshot.
>>>> I went to the gigya.com website. It is a social media and content
>>>> management internet based company with offices in CA, NY, and Israel.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps they can investigate their own security on their servers since
>>>> the discussion thread mentioned it was a leak in the respective company's
>>>> network servers.
>>>>
>>>> here's the contact info for them.
>>>>
>>>> Whether you have a comment, a bug to report,
>>>> or a press or business inquiry, please use the following contact
>>>> information.
>>>> We will get back to you as soon as possible.
>>>>
>>>> Liza Hausman, Gigya
>>>> 650.353.4178 Office
>>>>
>>>> Mark Naples, WIT
>>>> 215.893.0581 Direct
>>>> 646.265.7372 Cell Customer Support and Product Feedback Inquiries:support at gigya-inc.com<http://mc/compose?to=support at gigya-inc.com> Sales
>>>> related inquiries: sales at gigya-inc.com<http://mc/compose?to=sales at gigya-inc.com> Partner
>>>> and Business Development Inquiries: bizdev at gigya-inc.com<http://mc/compose?to=bizdev at gigya-inc.com>Questions
>>>> Relating to Terms of Use and/or our Privacy Policy:
>>>> privacy at gigya-inc.com <http://mc/compose?to=privacy at gigya-inc.com> Our
>>>> offices Palo Alto Office (Corporate Headquarters) 855 El Camino Real
>>>> Building 4, Suite 290
>>>> Palo Alto, CA 94301
>>>> 650.353.7230 New York Office. 817 Broadway, 10th Floor
>>>> New York, NY 10003-4709
>>>> 646.722.8137
>>>> Tel Aviv Office 132 Begin road
>>>> Azrieli round tower (13 floor)
>>>> Tel Aviv, Israel 67021
>>>> +972.73.7852400
>>>>
>>>> --- On *Sun, 11/29/09, Victoria L. Herring <vlh at herringlaw.com<http://mc/compose?to=vlh at herringlaw.com>
>>>> >* wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: Victoria L. Herring <vlh at herringlaw.com<http://mc/compose?to=vlh at herringlaw.com>
>>>> >
>>>> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Finder Issue
>>>> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org<http://mc/compose?to=dmmug at dmmug.org>
>>>> >
>>>> Cc: alan.maupin at gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=alan.maupin at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 5:57 PM
>>>>
>>>> you can go to Apple.com and set up a phone support call and explain the
>>>> whole problem in the message so the person you speak to has an idea of the
>>>> reason for the support call.  Seems easier than going out to the Apple Store
>>>> - maybe a first step.
>>>> I certainly don't know but if you are having things show up in the
>>>> finder window you might go to the Prefs for Finder and check on what is
>>>> listed as contents on sidebar =- I don't know what Neighborhood would be
>>>> other than perhaps you have Bluetooth or Bonjour enabled???  And they/it are
>>>> picking up signals??
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Alan Maupin <alan.maupin at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> The problem is located in Finder application, on the Shared menu, under
>>>> the submenu All:   random named URL's are showing up and are listed as
>>>> Neighborhood.
>>>>
>>>> The most recent URL to show up is "wildfire.gigya.com"
>>>>
>>>> It does not go away with a reboot.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know what causes this issue?  Is it a security issue?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Alan
>>>>
>>>> <Screen shot 2009-11-29 at 6.11.32 PM.png>
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From anastasia_prittee at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  7 18:48:01 2009
From: anastasia_prittee at yahoo.com (AB)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:48:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [DM-MUG] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
In-Reply-To: <A518CDD4-2C25-4E6D-B13B-F00083BE07B1@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <158767.7478.qm@web110302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Let me expand on the comment about Mac support from Qwest. I have never been a Qwest employee, I just like to be a loyal patron to the companies I am satisfied with.

Qwest's Mac support team is in Boise, Idaho. But they only work 8-5pm M-F. All other times you get re-routed to first available call centers. Some are in the US some are not. I always ask where the CSRs are located anyways. I've had them long enough and called enough times to know and been told their location and hours when I've called to request Mac support CSRs. 

I prefer DSL for many reasons. If the person's main concern is download speed, and NOT upload speed Cable internet "can" be faster, but it's like a highway at rush hour. Just because the posted speed limit is 70 miles, doesn't mean you are going 70 miles when? everyone in the in the neighborhood is getting off work and kids are getting out of school jumping on the internet. You internet speed is the equivalent of going with the traffic flow. If your friend wants reliability and a constant speed, DSL is a better choice, whatever provider your friend elects.

Qwest's 2 year contract isn't that bad. they never charge you more (for the speed you want)... they have a price for life guarantee. If they have a promotion they discount you the difference regardless of a 2 year contract. Example: I went with a 1mb speed plan and had been a customer for 3 years, they ran a promo for that speed which was cheaper than the regular price and they gave me the monthly discount for the entire duration of the promo. Last year my internet was supposed to be $45/mo. and because they ran the promo twice, I was only charged $15/mo for most the year. When I've chose to go with a faster speed, I get the new promo price, and the 2 year agreement was not restarted since I had already served the 2 year time. You can upgrade your connection speed at any time before of after the 2 years is up. It's mainly for those that terminate early. Moving service does not change anything either, only some one time transfer fees which is like $30-100
 depending on all the services being transferred/changed. The more services you have through Qwest, the more discounts they give you. When I added DirecTV they added a $5 discount on top of the existing discounts. 

I don't know much with cable internet or other DSL providers other than maybe NetINS, since I've been happy with Qwest collectively.

-A.

--- On Sat, 12/5/09, CW Smith <cwsmith7 at gmail.com> wrote:

From: CW Smith <cwsmith7 at gmail.com>
Subject: [DM-MUG] Fwd:  OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 3:17 PM

Don't forget Freese Notis -- they use Qwest's network but their cust svc (especially Mac support) is much better. Local contacts too -- you won't be talking to someone in Calcutta.

---------------------------------------------CW SmithWindows & Macintosh repairApple Certified Mac Technician
(515) 577-1716cwsmith7 at gmail.com
"Guitar, bass, percussion, Mac"www.cwsmith.fm---------------------------------------------
Begin forwarded message:

From: "Dave Weis" <djweis at internetsolver.com>
Date: December 5, 2009 1:23:52 PM CST
To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
Reply-To: djweis at internetsolver.com, Des Moines Mac Users Group <dmmug at dmmug.org>


I appreciate the compliment. We work hard at service and support. 



-----Original Message-----
From: Chris <chris at kavanaughgallery.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 13:16:51 
To: <djweis at internetsolver.com>; Des Moines Mac Users Group<dmmug at dmmug.org>
Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice

Dave-I was going to recommend you, internet solver does the DSL for ?
my work and they have always been helpful and reliable. ?I had ?
mediacom for about a year and the product is intermittent at best and ?
the service is horrible. We would have outages at least a couple ?
times a month, every month. I would get a different excuse from every ?
different CSR I would talk to. They would promise credits for time ?
unusable that would never appear on my bill. A couple of years ago ?
mediacom was much faster than qwest but I chose qwest. Good luck Chris

On Dec 5, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Dave Weis wrote:


And just so the people that know me well don't think I've lost my ?
self promotion skills, I recommend our DSL if you are in the more ?
central area of the metro.

------Original Message------
From: Ray Bowler
Sender: dmmug-bounces at dmmug.org
To: Des Moines Mac Users Group
ReplyTo: Des Moines Mac Users Group
Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
Sent: Dec 5, 2009 12:59 PM

Alan,

I agree with David. I would go with Qwest DSL. When Mediacom is
working it is fine but I have had several times when their server is
down for several days. When the problem seems to be at my end it can
take 3 or 4 days to get someone out here to fix it.

On Dec 5, 2009, at Dec 5, 200912:22 PM, Alan Maupin wrote:

I'm asking for advice for a friend on Internet service in Ankeny.
It's been awhile since I've negotiated a deal and I'm not sure of
what to tell her. ?She's been offered two deals: ??Qwest 7 mbps for
$41 per month and Mediacom 8 mbps for $39. ?Since the price and
download speeds are very similar what other criteria should she
consider? ?One possible negative is the fact that Qwest requires a
two year contract.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance -alan



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From tyrrell69 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 10:35:46 2009
From: tyrrell69 at gmail.com (Chris Tyrrell)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:35:46 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
In-Reply-To: <158767.7478.qm@web110302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <158767.7478.qm@web110302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DCC89882-728A-492D-AD73-D92B73AAF54B@gmail.com>

I'll add my recent experiences to the collective.

After years with Mediacom, I switched to the Qwest DSL/DirecTV bundle  
in the fall of '07. The DSL, while not super speedy due to the  
limitation imposed by my location (Waukee) was always there. I can't  
recall an instance when it ever failed me.  DirecTV's DVR rocks, but  
the rain fade was bothersome at times. My monthly bill for all  
services was around $180.

A couple weeks ago, a smooth talking Mediacom rep came to the door  
and convinced me to sign up - Net/CATV/Phone for $100/mo. Since I  
made the switch last Tuesday, it's been very disappointing. According  
to speakeasy.net/speedtest/ and speedtest.net, my DL speed is about  
3Mbps, which is only a hair better than my DSL speed. The HD DVR they  
brought turned out not to work, and the entire connection (all  
services) has been down a couple times. I'm tempted to return to  
DirecTV. We'll see how it goes when during tomorrow's service call to  
replace the DVR.



Cheers,
Chris

From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Wed Dec  9 13:59:49 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:59:49 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] deleting all contacts in iPhone
Message-ID: <p06240854c745b1b600bd@[10.0.1.6]>

I'm trying to totally clean out my iPhone and MobileMe and 
Addressbook of entries preparatory to a new sync from my FMP 
database...I've emptied AB and MM just fine...but I can't get the 
Contacts out of iPhone = I  gave gone to the Info tab and done the 
replace info on the iPhone = and despite there being -0- contacts on 
MM,  they won't be deleted from the iPhone.  Ideas?
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Des Moines, Iowa. Blogs: 
http://blog.JourneyZing.com  [photography]; 
http://www.herringlaw.com  [lawfirm]; 
http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/  [personal]; 
Twitter: VictoriaJZ.

From inflatablesoulmate at brothersofchaos.com  Wed Dec  9 14:17:05 2009
From: inflatablesoulmate at brothersofchaos.com (Matt Stanton)
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:17:05 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] deleting all contacts in iPhone
In-Reply-To: <p06240854c745b1b600bd@[10.0.1.6]>
References: <p06240854c745b1b600bd@[10.0.1.6]>
Message-ID: <4B2005C1.50103@brothersofchaos.com>

As a worst case scenario, there is always the option of putting the 
phone into restore mode (or whatever they call it) and wiping the phone 
back to the way it was when you got it.  Obviously, that would be a huge 
pain, and would remove all your apps and all the settings (plus any 
music/video/photos you have on the phone).  Surely there's a way to do 
it easier and someone on this list will know, but I only have an iPod 
Touch, so I haven't had any experience with the contacts features of the 
iPhone.


Victoria L. Herring wrote:
> I'm trying to totally clean out my iPhone and MobileMe and 
> Addressbook of entries preparatory to a new sync from my FMP 
> database...I've emptied AB and MM just fine...but I can't get the 
> Contacts out of iPhone = I  gave gone to the Info tab and done the 
> replace info on the iPhone = and despite there being -0- contacts on 
> MM,  they won't be deleted from the iPhone.  Ideas?
>   


From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Wed Dec  9 14:39:19 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:39:19 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] [MacLaw] deleting all contacts in iPhone
In-Reply-To: <p06240857c745b87695b4@[10.0.1.6]>
References: <p06240854c745b1b600bd@10.0.1.6>
	<97fdc86e0912091209u292ed734p60083c3c0fda296c@mail.gmail.com>
	<p06240857c745b87695b4@[10.0.1.6]>
Message-ID: <p06240859c745bb6a46eb@[10.0.1.6]>

  I think I discovered the answer = you do NOT need to wipe the whole 
iPhone = go to settings on the iPhone, go down to Mail,Contacts, 
Calendars and go to the MobileMe account you are syncing with = you 
have a choice of un-syncing and deleting the data for Mail, Contacts, 
Calendars, Bookmarks...change it to NO on the Contacts line and when 
the phone asks you whether you want to retain all the previously 
synced info, say no and delete ==it'll wipe off your selected data 
from the iPhone....
-- 
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http://blog.JourneyZing.com  [photography]; 
http://www.herringlaw.com  [lawfirm]; 
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From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Thu Dec 10 18:11:27 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:11:27 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
In-Reply-To: <DCC89882-728A-492D-AD73-D92B73AAF54B@gmail.com>
References: <158767.7478.qm@web110302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<DCC89882-728A-492D-AD73-D92B73AAF54B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <p0624083bc7473e4bafb5@[10.0.1.6]>

Well, squeaky wheels and all that = complain, complain, complain, 
blog and make it clear that you specifically moved to Mediacom and 
it's terrible.  I don't have an issue with Mediacom but you ought to 
be a pain in the A to them...maybe they'll be glad to get rid of you.

I assume you're checking speed with speedtest.net = I'm getting 7+ 
but maybe I'm lucky

>I'll add my recent experiences to the collective.
>
>After years with Mediacom, I switched to the Qwest DSL/DirecTV bundle 
>in the fall of '07. The DSL, while not super speedy due to the 
>limitation imposed by my location (Waukee) was always there. I can't 
>recall an instance when it ever failed me.  DirecTV's DVR rocks, but 
>the rain fade was bothersome at times. My monthly bill for all 
>services was around $180.
>
>A couple weeks ago, a smooth talking Mediacom rep came to the door 
>and convinced me to sign up - Net/CATV/Phone for $100/mo. Since I 
>made the switch last Tuesday, it's been very disappointing. According 
>to speakeasy.net/speedtest/ and speedtest.net, my DL speed is about 
>3Mbps, which is only a hair better than my DSL speed. The HD DVR they 
>brought turned out not to work, and the entire connection (all 
>services) has been down a couple times. I'm tempted to return to 
>DirecTV. We'll see how it goes when during tomorrow's service call to
>replace the DVR.

-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Des Moines, Iowa. Blogs: 
http://blog.JourneyZing.com  [photography]; 
http://www.herringlaw.com  [lawfirm]; 
http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/  [personal]; 
Twitter: VictoriaJZ.

From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Thu Dec 10 18:13:13 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:13:13 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Problems with syncing...
Message-ID: <p0624083cc7473efbd8d5@[10.0.1.6]>


I cleaned out my AB on Mobile Me and also my 2 computers, to start 
fresh. In past syncs have gone okay. But I synced the AB on one 
machine to Mobile Me and the AB had 600 contacts but only 572 ended 
up on MobileMe. Then I checked the other Mac and when it synced with 
MM, only those 572 came in.

Also, although in the 600 grouping there were some smart groups, the 
groups didn't transfer up to MM = but checking the 572 on Mac#2, I 
see duplicate Groups. I have the same 572 but the smartgroups they 
are part of are not on MM but do show up on my Mac#2.

What I would like is [1] clean off all AB contacts everywhere except 
the Master machine, {2} sync the Master machine's 600 entries over to 
MM and then to Mac#2 and have the smart groups only show up once and 
not duplicated.

Not sure what is going on but would appreciate help.

The contact master is on a 10.5.7 machine, the #1 Mac is a 
SnowLeopard machine, if that matters.

-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Des Moines, Iowa. Blogs: 
http://blog.JourneyZing.com  [photography]; 
http://www.herringlaw.com  [lawfirm]; 
http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/  [personal]; 
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From anastasia_prittee at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 10 18:30:19 2009
From: anastasia_prittee at yahoo.com (AB)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:30:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [DM-MUG] deleting all contacts in iPhone
In-Reply-To: <p06240854c745b1b600bd@[10.0.1.6]>
Message-ID: <994216.23692.qm@web110314.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Sounds odd. I suppose you cleared all contacts and reimport/sync? 

--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Victoria L. Herring <VLH at HerringLaw.com> wrote:

> From: Victoria L. Herring <VLH at HerringLaw.com>
> Subject: [DM-MUG] deleting all contacts in iPhone
> To: MacLaw at yahoogroups.com
> Cc: "MUG Des Moines" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:59 PM
> I'm trying to totally clean out my
> iPhone and MobileMe and 
> Addressbook of entries preparatory to a new sync from my
> FMP 
> database...I've emptied AB and MM just fine...but I can't
> get the 
> Contacts out of iPhone = I? gave gone to the Info tab
> and done the 
> replace info on the iPhone = and despite there being -0-
> contacts on 
> MM,? they won't be deleted from the iPhone.?
> Ideas?
> -- 
> Victoria L. Herring, Des Moines, Iowa. Blogs: 
> http://blog.JourneyZing.com? [photography]; 
> http://www.herringlaw.com? [lawfirm]; 
> http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/?
> [personal]; 
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From anastasia_prittee at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 10 18:33:54 2009
From: anastasia_prittee at yahoo.com (AB)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:33:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [DM-MUG] deleting all contacts in iPhone
In-Reply-To: <4B2005C1.50103@brothersofchaos.com>
Message-ID: <891026.22256.qm@web110311.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Try this link? People keep reporting it helped them. Might save you from returning to default settings entirely to avoid losing any apps and non-contact data.

http://manismani.blogspot.com/2008/03/delete-all-contacts-from-iphone-using.html

--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Matt Stanton <inflatablesoulmate at brothersofchaos.com> wrote:

> From: Matt Stanton <inflatablesoulmate at brothersofchaos.com>
> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] deleting all contacts in iPhone
> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:17 PM
> As a worst case scenario, there is
> always the option of putting the 
> phone into restore mode (or whatever they call it) and
> wiping the phone 
> back to the way it was when you got it.? Obviously,
> that would be a huge 
> pain, and would remove all your apps and all the settings
> (plus any 
> music/video/photos you have on the phone).? Surely
> there's a way to do 
> it easier and someone on this list will know, but I only
> have an iPod 
> Touch, so I haven't had any experience with the contacts
> features of the 
> iPhone.
> 
> 
> Victoria L. Herring wrote:
> > I'm trying to totally clean out my iPhone and MobileMe
> and 
> > Addressbook of entries preparatory to a new sync from
> my FMP 
> > database...I've emptied AB and MM just fine...but I
> can't get the 
> > Contacts out of iPhone = I? gave gone to the Info
> tab and done the 
> > replace info on the iPhone = and despite there being
> -0- contacts on 
> > MM,? they won't be deleted from the iPhone.?
> Ideas?
> >???
> 
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From woohoowoohoo at me.com  Fri Dec 11 18:23:55 2009
From: woohoowoohoo at me.com (mauri booton)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:23:55 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] BPM Software
Message-ID: <A42C4592-B93C-455E-AE4B-46D4D5AE13BC@me.com>

I do a lot of work with music and have been looking for software that  
is accurate in determining the BPM of songs. Most that I have tried  
are quite inaccurate either doubling the BPM or registering it at half  
the BPM for a large portion of songs. (BPM = Beats Per Minute)

Anyone know of good BMP measuring software?

~~ mauri ~~
http://www.caringbridge.org
visit site: mauri

P.S.: My cancer has gone out of remission and I will be having a PET  
scan on Monday to determine my next course of treatment. I know this  
is off topic, but since we're not meeting in December and I will be  
out of state for the January meeting, I wanted to let you know what's  
going on.

From jonsharyl at prairieinet.net  Fri Dec 11 18:31:01 2009
From: jonsharyl at prairieinet.net (Jon Engelhardt)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:31:01 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] BPM Software
In-Reply-To: <A42C4592-B93C-455E-AE4B-46D4D5AE13BC@me.com>
References: <A42C4592-B93C-455E-AE4B-46D4D5AE13BC@me.com>
Message-ID: <2A66862F-C35C-404D-8724-8AD1A1743A30@prairieinet.net>

Go to your local music store and buy a metronome.  Very inexpensive  
and perfectly accurate.
Jon
On Dec 11, 2009, at 6:23 PM, mauri booton wrote:

> I do a lot of work with music and have been looking for software that
> is accurate in determining the BPM of songs. Most that I have tried
> are quite inaccurate either doubling the BPM or registering it at half
> the BPM for a large portion of songs. (BPM = Beats Per Minute)
>
> Anyone know of good BMP measuring software?
>
> ~~ mauri ~~
> http://www.caringbridge.org
> visit site: mauri
>
> P.S.: My cancer has gone out of remission and I will be having a PET
> scan on Monday to determine my next course of treatment. I know this
> is off topic, but since we're not meeting in December and I will be
> out of state for the January meeting, I wanted to let you know what's
> going on.
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From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Fri Dec 11 18:37:17 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:37:17 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] deleting all contacts in iPhone
In-Reply-To: <891026.22256.qm@web110311.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <891026.22256.qm@web110311.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <p06240884c74895e33675@[10.0.1.6]>

thanks much Anastasia = now if only I coudl figure out why 600 AB 
entries on my iMac end up being only 572 on the MobileMe site - this 
despite wiping all AB data off all machines and doing a reset sync....
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Des Moines, Iowa. Blogs: 
http://blog.JourneyZing.com  [photography]; 
http://www.herringlaw.com  [lawfirm]; 
http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/  [personal]; 
Twitter: VictoriaJZ.

From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Fri Dec 11 18:38:45 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:38:45 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] BPM Software
In-Reply-To: <2A66862F-C35C-404D-8724-8AD1A1743A30@prairieinet.net>
References: <A42C4592-B93C-455E-AE4B-46D4D5AE13BC@me.com>
	<2A66862F-C35C-404D-8724-8AD1A1743A30@prairieinet.net>
Message-ID: <p06240885c748967b59f5@[10.0.1.6]>

take care of yourself Mauri and hopefully it's only a temporary 
glitch and all will be better when we see you in January...
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Des Moines, Iowa. Blogs: 
http://blog.JourneyZing.com  [photography]; 
http://www.herringlaw.com  [lawfirm]; 
http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/  [personal]; 
Twitter: VictoriaJZ.

From djweis at internetsolver.com  Sat Dec 12 12:33:25 2009
From: djweis at internetsolver.com (Dave Weis)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:33:25 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Wanted: Mini
Message-ID: <4B23E1F5.5000701@internetsolver.com>


Does anyone have a recent Mini they would like to sell? I want to do 
some video editing and DVD creating. I would prefer an Intel but would 
get by with a G4. Will hit the apple store today otherwise.

Thanks
dave



-- 
Dave Weis
Internet Solver
Your Technology Partner
515-224-9229
www.internetsolver.com

From woohoowoohoo at me.com  Sat Dec 12 14:44:51 2009
From: woohoowoohoo at me.com (mauri booton)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:44:51 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] NICECAST...
Message-ID: <C8C52924-4242-4510-9FD4-681F7BB19DEE@me.com>

Does anyone have any experience with Nicecast? It works between  
machines on my LAN, but doesn't seem to get to the "outer world" and I  
even changed my Airport settings to NAT-PMP as recommended.

Thanks!!

~~ mauri ~~


From woohoowoohoo at me.com  Sat Dec 12 22:33:02 2009
From: woohoowoohoo at me.com (mauri booton)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:33:02 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Wireless Mac Mouse Battery Issue
Message-ID: <29C74DAB-728B-4B36-BBA9-1EE47EFCDFFB@me.com>

It seems like I'm changing the batteries in my wireless iMac mouse  
quite frequently (every 6-8 weeks). Is there some way to conserve the  
batteries? If not, I'm thinking a corded mouse could be cheaper to run  
and I could live without the "convenience" of the cordless mouse.

~~ mauri ~~


From inflatablesoulmate at brothersofchaos.com  Sun Dec 13 01:55:51 2009
From: inflatablesoulmate at brothersofchaos.com (Matt Stanton)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:55:51 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Wireless Mac Mouse Battery Issue
In-Reply-To: <29C74DAB-728B-4B36-BBA9-1EE47EFCDFFB@me.com>
References: <29C74DAB-728B-4B36-BBA9-1EE47EFCDFFB@me.com>
Message-ID: <4B249E07.90300@brothersofchaos.com>

I can't stand the thought of being without my computer for the amount of 
time it would take me to find/buy batteries, so I use corded mice 
anywhere I don't want to be bothered.  I also prefer corded mice on my 
desktop (which is a PC) because they provide better gaming performance 
(I would imagine that doing graphics work would also be a task for which 
a perfectly responsive mouse would be handy, though).  The only mouse I 
have that is cordless is the little travel mouse that I lug around with 
my netbook, but it has an off switch, so it hasn't failed me yet (and if 
it did, I have the trackpad to use until I get the batteries worked out).

So, my suggestion would be to find a mouse that either has a cord, or 
has an off switch.  You don't necessarily need to have a 'Mac' brand 
mouse.  At work, both the PC mouse I use to get the context menu (thank 
god for the right mouse button) and my wireless mouse work with no 
troubles or special configuration (including the mouse wheels on both of 
them).  On one of the Macs at work, we are using 10.2.8 (an old blue 
G3), and it requires the USB Overdrive helper app to recognize the PC 
wireless mouse, but on the new Mac Pro (with 10.5) there is no need for 
any extra software/drivers.  I'm not sure which version of OS X they 
added the support for PC wireless mice to, so YMMV.  Also, you'll need 
it to be a USB mouse (can you even buy a ps/2 mouse anymore?).

mauri booton wrote:
> It seems like I'm changing the batteries in my wireless iMac mouse  
> quite frequently (every 6-8 weeks). Is there some way to conserve the  
> batteries? If not, I'm thinking a corded mouse could be cheaper to run  
> and I could live without the "convenience" of the cordless mouse.
>
> ~~ mauri ~~
>
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From alan.maupin at gmail.com  Sun Dec 13 09:21:57 2009
From: alan.maupin at gmail.com (Alan Maupin)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 09:21:57 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Wireless Mac Mouse Battery Issue
In-Reply-To: <4B249E07.90300@brothersofchaos.com>
References: <29C74DAB-728B-4B36-BBA9-1EE47EFCDFFB@me.com>
	<4B249E07.90300@brothersofchaos.com>
Message-ID: <DEB4103C-4FF8-43AE-9F2F-E1D3925F1FF0@gmail.com>

I agree with Matt's assessment.  This past week I gave my wireless bluetooth mighty mouse another chance on my MacPro.  I normally use a USB mighty mouse.  Within a couple of days I had to disconnect the bluetooth mouse for the following reasons.  It's not as responsive or precise as the USB mouse.  The wireless mouse feels awkward because its heavy and such does not move as easy as the much lighter USB mouse.


On Dec 13, 2009, at 1:55 AM, Matt Stanton wrote:

> I can't stand the thought of being without my computer for the amount of 
> time it would take me to find/buy batteries, so I use corded mice 
> anywhere I don't want to be bothered.  I also prefer corded mice on my 
> desktop (which is a PC) because they provide better gaming performance 
> (I would imagine that doing graphics work would also be a task for which 
> a perfectly responsive mouse would be handy, though).  The only mouse I 
> have that is cordless is the little travel mouse that I lug around with 
> my netbook, but it has an off switch, so it hasn't failed me yet (and if 
> it did, I have the trackpad to use until I get the batteries worked out).
> 
> So, my suggestion would be to find a mouse that either has a cord, or 
> has an off switch.  You don't necessarily need to have a 'Mac' brand 
> mouse.  At work, both the PC mouse I use to get the context menu (thank 
> god for the right mouse button) and my wireless mouse work with no 
> troubles or special configuration (including the mouse wheels on both of 
> them).  On one of the Macs at work, we are using 10.2.8 (an old blue 
> G3), and it requires the USB Overdrive helper app to recognize the PC 
> wireless mouse, but on the new Mac Pro (with 10.5) there is no need for 
> any extra software/drivers.  I'm not sure which version of OS X they 
> added the support for PC wireless mice to, so YMMV.  Also, you'll need 
> it to be a USB mouse (can you even buy a ps/2 mouse anymore?).
> 
> mauri booton wrote:
>> It seems like I'm changing the batteries in my wireless iMac mouse  
>> quite frequently (every 6-8 weeks). Is there some way to conserve the  
>> batteries? If not, I'm thinking a corded mouse could be cheaper to run  
>> and I could live without the "convenience" of the cordless mouse.
>> 
>> ~~ mauri ~~
>> 
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>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug
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>> 
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From cwsmith7 at gmail.com  Sun Dec 13 09:42:13 2009
From: cwsmith7 at gmail.com (CW Smith)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 09:42:13 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Wireless Mac Mouse Battery Issue
In-Reply-To: <DEB4103C-4FF8-43AE-9F2F-E1D3925F1FF0@gmail.com>
References: <29C74DAB-728B-4B36-BBA9-1EE47EFCDFFB@me.com>
	<4B249E07.90300@brothersofchaos.com>
	<DEB4103C-4FF8-43AE-9F2F-E1D3925F1FF0@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0D73DE99-35E2-49BA-A0DC-B28EEBE3954E@gmail.com>

Don't forget to close the sliding door on the wireless Mighty Mouse -- this covers the sensor for protection, and breaks the circuit to save battery life.

The new Magic Mouse has a simple switch to break the circuit as well. But there are online rumblings about poor battery life on the new mice as well. Maybe a firmware update will address this soon?

Peace,
CW

---------------------------------------------------------

CW Smith
Windows & Macintosh service and repair
Apple Certified Macintosh Technician

Phone: (515) 577-1716
cwsmith7 at gmail.com

"Guitar, bass, percussion, Macintosh"
www.cwsmith.fm

---------------------------------------------------------

On Dec 13, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Alan Maupin wrote:

> I agree with Matt's assessment.  This past week I gave my wireless bluetooth mighty mouse another chance on my MacPro.  I normally use a USB mighty mouse.  Within a couple of days I had to disconnect the bluetooth mouse for the following reasons.  It's not as responsive or precise as the USB mouse.  The wireless mouse feels awkward because its heavy and such does not move as easy as the much lighter USB mouse.
> 
> 
> On Dec 13, 2009, at 1:55 AM, Matt Stanton wrote:
> 
>> I can't stand the thought of being without my computer for the amount of 
>> time it would take me to find/buy batteries, so I use corded mice 
>> anywhere I don't want to be bothered.  I also prefer corded mice on my 
>> desktop (which is a PC) because they provide better gaming performance 
>> (I would imagine that doing graphics work would also be a task for which 
>> a perfectly responsive mouse would be handy, though).  The only mouse I 
>> have that is cordless is the little travel mouse that I lug around with 
>> my netbook, but it has an off switch, so it hasn't failed me yet (and if 
>> it did, I have the trackpad to use until I get the batteries worked out).
>> 
>> So, my suggestion would be to find a mouse that either has a cord, or 
>> has an off switch.  You don't necessarily need to have a 'Mac' brand 
>> mouse.  At work, both the PC mouse I use to get the context menu (thank 
>> god for the right mouse button) and my wireless mouse work with no 
>> troubles or special configuration (including the mouse wheels on both of 
>> them).  On one of the Macs at work, we are using 10.2.8 (an old blue 
>> G3), and it requires the USB Overdrive helper app to recognize the PC 
>> wireless mouse, but on the new Mac Pro (with 10.5) there is no need for 
>> any extra software/drivers.  I'm not sure which version of OS X they 
>> added the support for PC wireless mice to, so YMMV.  Also, you'll need 
>> it to be a USB mouse (can you even buy a ps/2 mouse anymore?).
>> 
>> mauri booton wrote:
>>> It seems like I'm changing the batteries in my wireless iMac mouse  
>>> quite frequently (every 6-8 weeks). Is there some way to conserve the  
>>> batteries? If not, I'm thinking a corded mouse could be cheaper to run  
>>> and I could live without the "convenience" of the cordless mouse.
>>> 
>>> ~~ mauri ~~
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> DMMUG mailing list
>>> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
>>> DMMUG at dmmug.org
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>>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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From victoria at journeyzing.com  Sun Dec 13 12:23:27 2009
From: victoria at journeyzing.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 12:23:27 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] How to automatically Convert Pages 09 to PDF [applescript]
Message-ID: <p06240808c74ade2903f6@[10.0.1.6]>

I looked around and came upon a script which works.  It's explained 
in greater detail, with links and info at my blog site: 
http://www.herringlaw.com/
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Des Moines, Iowa. Blogs: 
http://blog.JourneyZing.com  [photography]; 
http://www.herringlaw.com  [lawfirm]; 
http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/  [personal]; 
Twitter: VictoriaJZ.

From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Sun Dec 13 13:35:28 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 13:35:28 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] How to automatically Convert Pages 09 to PDF
 [applescript] & Evernote
In-Reply-To: <p06240808c74ade2903f6@[10.0.1.6]>
References: <p06240808c74ade2903f6@[10.0.1.6]>
Message-ID: <p0624080cc74af228b38d@[10.0.1.6]>

>I looked around and came upon a script which works.  It's explained
>in greater detail, with links and info at my blog site:
>http://www.herringlaw.com/

and the utility of this becomes greater when you can then take the 
PDFs created via the script and drop them on the Evernote AutoImport 
script [which is off the Evernote site] and they will be 
automatically imported into the Evernote application

-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Des Moines, Iowa. Blogs: 
http://blog.JourneyZing.com  [photography]; 
http://www.herringlaw.com  [lawfirm]; 
http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/  [personal]; 
Twitter: VictoriaJZ.

From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Sun Dec 13 14:21:14 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:21:14 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] InfoManager for MUGs - Nov. 30th
In-Reply-To: <p06240839c73c8b62d925@[10.0.1.192]>
References: <p06240839c73c8b62d925@[10.0.1.192]>
Message-ID: <p0624080fc74afd2f4940@[10.0.1.6]>

InfoManager for Monday, November 30, 2009
-------------------------------------------------------------------
by Lynn Wegley, InfoManager, with coeditor Fred Showker

What's Here:
01  iPhone, iPod GAMES
02  Parallels, Fusion and Virtual Box
03  Holiday Phishing update
04  10 Security and Privacy Tips
05  Stuffit Cloud
06  Apple Mac mini pips some very PC PC
07  Top 10 Most Popular Apple sites and blogs
08  Pharmacy sites terminated
09  Quote(s) Elbert Hubbard; T.S. Elliot

* Participate: http://www.UGNN.com/
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From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Sun Dec 13 14:21:41 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:21:41 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] InfoManager for MUGs - Dec. 7th
In-Reply-To: <p06240839c73c8b62d925@[10.0.1.192]>
References: <p06240839c73c8b62d925@[10.0.1.192]>
Message-ID: <p06240810c74afd4a4fbf@[10.0.1.6]>

InfoManager for Monday, December 7, 2009
-------------------------------------------------------------------
by Lynn Wegley, InfoManager, with coeditor Fred Showker

What's Here:
   UGNN Salutes: TMUG
   UGNN Salutes: TMUG
   There's an App for that
   Your Own Handwriting Fonts?
   iPhone aids the Color Blind
   DrawIt Vector-Drawing for Mac
   Apple Tablet: Truth or Rumor?
   More iPhone iPod games
   69 Free Snow Leopard apps
   Download Software Updates in OS X 10.6
   Mailbag: Office suite on Mac
   Everplay
   Apple buys Lala
   13 Performance Enhancing Tips
   Review of Snow Leopard
   See iPhone Posts:
   Quote: Jackson, Twain

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From newz at bearfruit.org  Sun Dec 13 14:46:38 2009
From: newz at bearfruit.org (Matthew Nuzum)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:46:38 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Wireless Mac Mouse Battery Issue
In-Reply-To: <29C74DAB-728B-4B36-BBA9-1EE47EFCDFFB@me.com>
References: <29C74DAB-728B-4B36-BBA9-1EE47EFCDFFB@me.com>
Message-ID: <f3c0b4080912131246t781f0654n471eea4a41ecd443@mail.gmail.com>

Buying the expensive batteries will make a big difference on the battery
life. Normal alkaline batteries have a drastically reduced life in the
higher drain wireless devices. So for example, a battery able to provide
800mah may only provide 300mah. (This is also true for digital cameras by
the way)

However the new, "ultra" batteries use a different chemistry that provides
additional energy (for example, maybe 1,800mah) and additionally do not
suffer the reduced life in higher drain devices.

The Energizer Ultra Lithium batteries last 6 months in my bluetooth mouse,
Rayovac alkalines last about one month. Paying $9 for a four pack of
batteries may seem a bit outrageous but they really do have value in these
situations.

Another alternative is to pick up a four pack of the Energizer rechargeable
w/ an included charger for about $20. You can just keep two in the charger
while you use the other two in the mouse. They won't last as long as the
Lithium Iron Chemistry "Ultras" but these NiMH will outlast Alkaline by a
good margin (NiMH can handle high draign devices nearly as well), even
though the energy density is comparable.

Christmas time is a good time of year to get deals on rechargeable
batteries. You'll probably find them at the checkout stand at any store that
sells toys and gadgets. The Energizers work very well in my experience.
Definitely stick with the name brand parts.

Matthew Nuzum
newz2000 on Twitter freenode identi.ca and Skype

On Dec 12, 2009 10:33 PM, "mauri booton" <woohoowoohoo at me.com> wrote:

It seems like I'm changing the batteries in my wireless iMac mouse
quite frequently (every 6-8 weeks). Is there some way to conserve the
batteries? If not, I'm thinking a corded mouse could be cheaper to run
and I could live without the "convenience" of the cordless mouse.

~~ mauri ~~

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From rbowler at mchsi.com  Sun Dec 13 18:26:24 2009
From: rbowler at mchsi.com (Ray Bowler)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:26:24 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] iMac display
Message-ID: <664C2E0D-5EAC-421D-A571-3643B3243B9C@mchsi.com>

Hi,

My daughter's 2 year old(aprox) iMac suddenly has a faint pink  
vertical line about 2" from the right side. I am assuming that this is  
a display problem and that Apple care is needed. Am I correct?

Ray

From adk at 52761.com  Sun Dec 13 19:53:36 2009
From: adk at 52761.com (Allen Kiddoo)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:53:36 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] iMac display
In-Reply-To: <664C2E0D-5EAC-421D-A571-3643B3243B9C@mchsi.com>
References: <664C2E0D-5EAC-421D-A571-3643B3243B9C@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <678823f00912131753l5a1a77acy87adefc5d6932fff@mail.gmail.com>

Yep, time to pick up the phone. Had my display replaced last summer at
2 1/2 years old. Same issue.
iMac should qualify for home service- mine did. If you are certain
distance from store.

Allen Kiddoo
Muscatine

On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Ray Bowler <rbowler at mchsi.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My daughter's 2 year old(aprox) iMac suddenly has a faint pink
> vertical line about 2" from the right side. I am assuming that this is
> a display problem and that Apple care is needed. Am I correct?
>
> Ray
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From ka_klick at mac.com  Mon Dec 14 13:08:27 2009
From: ka_klick at mac.com (Bryan Baker)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:08:27 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] NICECAST...
In-Reply-To: <C8C52924-4242-4510-9FD4-681F7BB19DEE@me.com>
References: <C8C52924-4242-4510-9FD4-681F7BB19DEE@me.com>
Message-ID: <23920CB3-67A3-4E94-B5F6-2C3B1068E8D5@mac.com>

I've been using NiceCast for about 4 years at least once a week.
I'm guessing you're using the "internal server" that's the default on  
NiceCast.
I haven't used that for probably 3.8 years, since I usually have an  
audience bigger than 1-2 listeners.
The biggest trick in that case is making sure that you're using the  
right "share" address when sending out the URL.
On the "share" tab there are 2 URLs one for internal use and another  
for external use. Your machine will have a local IP that your other  
local machines can see, but that won't be visible to the outside  
(it'll probably be 10.0.0.<1-254> or 192.168.0.<1-254>) you can't use  
that for an outside listener as those are private IPs.

The URL under "internet" should give you the right IP to use the  
stream from outside.
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I usually use rented streams that I simply feed from my machine and  
consumers can listen to directly.

If you're just trying to listen to your music collection or something  
yourself, then the built in is OK, but unless you have pretty fat  
"pipes" you won't be able to serve many listeners directly.

Hope that helps. I've loved working w/ NiceCast and am very glad I  
don't have to put up with what I've seen on the PC side. If you work  
with multiple stream providers, it is really best in class level  
software for my money. I know it's paid for itself for me.


On Dec 12, 2009, at 2:44 PM, mauri booton wrote:
> Does anyone have any experience with Nicecast? It works between
> machines on my LAN, but doesn't seem to get to the "outer world" and I
> even changed my Airport settings to NAT-PMP as recommended.
>
> Thanks!!
>
> ~~ mauri ~~
>
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From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Mon Dec 14 15:23:55 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:23:55 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Fwd: Save 50% on All Take Control Ebooks in Our Holiday
	Sale!
Message-ID: <p06240858c74c5d56d1bf@[10.0.1.6]>

>From: "Adam C. Engst" <tc-comments at tidbits.com>
>Happy holidays to all!
>
>To celebrate the holiday season, we're offering all our ebooks - Take
>Control titles and the Macworld Superguides - at 50% off. This is a
>great opportunity to stock up on tech reading for the new year or
>update your collection of Take Control ebooks quickly and efficiently
>with a single trip through the cart.
>
>To get started, use the coupon-embedded link below to browse our
>catalog page and jump off to any of the other pages on the Take
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>automatically on the first screen of the cart. (The sale is only for
>ebooks, not our at-cost print-on-demand versions. Bits are easy,
>atoms are hard.)
>
><http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog?pt=TCANNOUNCE&cp=CPN91211HOL>
>
>Want to give one of our ebooks as a gift? Since we don't use DRM of
>any sort, you can buy the ebook just as you would buy it for yourself
>and then give the PDF file to your recipient using the technology of
>your choice, such as a funky USB thumb drive or nicely labeled CD-R
>if you need something physical to wrap. For last minute gift-giving,
>you can just attach one of our PDFs to an email message or drop it in
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>
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>
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>handles syncing managed data like contacts and calendar items, "Take
>Control of Syncing Data in Snow Leopard" has the scoop on Sync
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>
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>
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>
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>is a must-read for anyone starting with an iPhone because it lets you
>in on hidden features in Apple's core apps that you aren't likely to
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>
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>catalog page, which you can also view as a big list of ebooks, sorted
>alphabetically, using the coupon-embedded link below. Again, the
>coupon code - CPN91211HOL - should automatically appear on the first
>screen of the cart after you click a Buy button.
>
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>
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>friends! Thank you for your comments, questions, and enthusiasm, and
>for your support of the Take Control series!
>
>Happy holidays to all, and see you in 2010!
>
>      -Adam & Tonya Engst, Take Control publishers

-- 
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http://blog.JourneyZing.com  [photography]; 
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Twitter: VictoriaJZ.

From morej at alliancetechnologies.net  Mon Dec 14 16:24:43 2009
From: morej at alliancetechnologies.net (Josh More)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:24:43 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] [Cialug] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
Message-ID: <4B2666CB0200002E0003B33D@webmail.alliancetechnologies.net>

Yes, your DSL may get congested... but with DSL I can't sniff my
neighbor's traffic, which is sad for me, but it means that they also
can't sniff mine... which is why I'm on DSL.



-Josh More, RHCE, CISSP, NCLP, GIAC 
 morej at alliancetechnologies.net 
 515-245-7701

>>> Claus <cniesen at gmx.net> 12/14/09 3:59 PM >>>
> With DSL you pay for the bandwidth which means you don't share with
your
> neighbors

I know I'm late but just wanted to mention that that's bull.  I always 
believed the same until I got screwed.  Your DSL line might still be 
congested if your neighborhood is using a lot of bandwidth.  And Qwest 
doesn't guarantee anything either.  Just read my earlier mails on
CIALUG.

Good luck,
   Claus
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From cniesen at gmx.net  Mon Dec 14 15:59:04 2009
From: cniesen at gmx.net (Claus)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:59:04 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] [Cialug] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
In-Reply-To: <4B1AE927.9030603@foxmediasystems.com>
References: <806AFC0F-8D53-48D7-8F69-BE26A38B10D6@gmail.com>
	<4B1AE927.9030603@foxmediasystems.com>
Message-ID: <4B26B528.1090907@gmx.net>

> With DSL you pay for the bandwidth which means you don't share with your
> neighbors

I know I'm late but just wanted to mention that that's bull.  I always 
believed the same until I got screwed.  Your DSL line might still be 
congested if your neighborhood is using a lot of bandwidth.  And Qwest 
doesn't guarantee anything either.  Just read my earlier mails on CIALUG.

Good luck,
   Claus

From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Tue Dec 15 17:56:01 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:56:01 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Fun with Speakable Items and it's not even Friday!
Message-ID: <p06240830c74dd1fc86b5@[10.0.1.6]>

I was setting up a microphone headset and opened the Speech system 
pref.  I saw it had Speech Recognition as a choice using Speakable 
items = and to my amazement it worked.  The computer told me time and 
talked back to me when I didn't have the right email address.

And the computer will Tell a joke [knock knock] -- I don't know that 
i'd use it all that much but was amazed at how wel it worked, since I 
really didn't train it much.
-- 
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From woohoowoohoo at me.com  Tue Dec 15 19:09:37 2009
From: woohoowoohoo at me.com (mauri booton)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:09:37 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Get NAT setup for Nicecast...
Message-ID: <9FD9E569-B742-486B-B6A4-559790AA2A17@me.com>

I've tried all the suggestions for getting my Apple Time Capsule  
router to work with Nicecast... including the both the manual and  
automatic configuration of NAT, but it's just not working. I have a  
feeling that I am overlooking something... but since I'm overlooking  
it I have no idea what it is.

HELP!!

Thanks!!

~~ mauri ~~
woohoowoohoo at me.com
Life Is Good! Woo Hoo!
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/mauri






From ka_klick at mac.com  Wed Dec 16 10:09:55 2009
From: ka_klick at mac.com (Bryan Baker)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:09:55 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Get NAT setup for Nicecast...
In-Reply-To: <9FD9E569-B742-486B-B6A4-559790AA2A17@me.com>
References: <9FD9E569-B742-486B-B6A4-559790AA2A17@me.com>
Message-ID: <D5D4EB96-4D6F-428D-98F6-E8205B737ECB@mac.com>

I thought I hinted at it pretty effectively in my previous post, but  
I'll ask directly, what is the url you're trying to access this with  
from outside? If it's got a local (10.* or 192.168.*) address in it it  
will NOT ever be seen by the outside. THere are 2 possible URLs that  
the "share" tab gives you, a local and an internet - you must use the  
internet address on the outside of your net.

I would think that since you've got it working locally it can't be a  
firewall on your mac, without more info, my strongest bet is still  
that you're trying to use a local address on the outside of your network

On Dec 15, 2009, at 7:09 PM, mauri booton wrote:
> I've tried all the suggestions for getting my Apple Time Capsule
> router to work with Nicecast... including the both the manual and
> automatic configuration of NAT, but it's just not working. I have a
> feeling that I am overlooking something... but since I'm overlooking
> it I have no idea what it is.
>
> HELP!!
>
> Thanks!!
>
> ~~ mauri ~~
> woohoowoohoo at me.com
> Life Is Good! Woo Hoo!
> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/mauri
>
>
>
>
>
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From jrgeerdes at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 10:14:33 2009
From: jrgeerdes at gmail.com (Jeremy Geerdes)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:14:33 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Get NAT setup for Nicecast...
In-Reply-To: <D5D4EB96-4D6F-428D-98F6-E8205B737ECB@mac.com>
References: <9FD9E569-B742-486B-B6A4-559790AA2A17@me.com>
	<D5D4EB96-4D6F-428D-98F6-E8205B737ECB@mac.com>
Message-ID: <13696D92-C9DA-4358-9D13-99E9DC71A622@gmail.com>

As has been suggested, you need to try to access this from the outside  
by entering the PUBLIC ip of the Airport. You will also want to check  
which port the service is running on and make sure to configure the  
Airport to open that port and route it to the correct computer's ip on  
the private side. This can be done via the Airport Utility, in the  
Advanced section, on the Port Mapping tab. These two things MUST be  
done if you're going to access your stuff from outside your network.

Jeremy R. Geerdes
Effective website design & development
Des Moines, IA

For more information or a project quote:
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http://jgeerdes.blogspot.com
http://jgeerdes.wordpress.com
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communication are given in US dollars.

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Wesleyan Church!

And check out my blog, Adventures in Web Development, at http://jgeerdes.blogspot.com 
  !


On Dec 16, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Bryan Baker wrote:

> I thought I hinted at it pretty effectively in my previous post, but
> I'll ask directly, what is the url you're trying to access this with
> from outside? If it's got a local (10.* or 192.168.*) address in it it
> will NOT ever be seen by the outside. THere are 2 possible URLs that
> the "share" tab gives you, a local and an internet - you must use the
> internet address on the outside of your net.
>
> I would think that since you've got it working locally it can't be a
> firewall on your mac, without more info, my strongest bet is still
> that you're trying to use a local address on the outside of your  
> network
>
> On Dec 15, 2009, at 7:09 PM, mauri booton wrote:
>> I've tried all the suggestions for getting my Apple Time Capsule
>> router to work with Nicecast... including the both the manual and
>> automatic configuration of NAT, but it's just not working. I have a
>> feeling that I am overlooking something... but since I'm overlooking
>> it I have no idea what it is.
>>
>> HELP!!
>>
>> Thanks!!
>>
>> ~~ mauri ~~
>> woohoowoohoo at me.com
>> Life Is Good! Woo Hoo!
>> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/mauri
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From haynee at dwx.com  Wed Dec 16 14:50:47 2009
From: haynee at dwx.com (mauri booton)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:50:47 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] The NAT Issue...
In-Reply-To: <mailman.0.1260986401.8928.dmmug@dmmug.org>
References: <mailman.0.1260986401.8928.dmmug@dmmug.org>
Message-ID: <B49B9901-3D7E-40DC-BF78-CE37CEF13133@dwx.com>

Here is the url that I'm shooting for: http://207.206.196.208:8000/listen.m3u 
. My "internal" url is: http://10.0.1.2:8000/listen.m3u

Once I get into the settings part of the Airport, I can find the port  
designations... just exactly what should I be entering into them? I  
don't mean to be obtuse about this... it's just an area that I don't  
understand.

Thanks!!

~~ mauri ~~
haynee at dwx.com
Life Is Good!! Woo Hoo!
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From jrgeerdes at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 15:19:50 2009
From: jrgeerdes at gmail.com (Jeremy Geerdes)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:19:50 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] The NAT Issue...
In-Reply-To: <B49B9901-3D7E-40DC-BF78-CE37CEF13133@dwx.com>
References: <mailman.0.1260986401.8928.dmmug@dmmug.org>
	<B49B9901-3D7E-40DC-BF78-CE37CEF13133@dwx.com>
Message-ID: <C0D1A8CF-17DC-4E10-AD28-054E9436B198@gmail.com>

Once you get into the Port Mapping section of the AirPort Utility, you  
will need to click the + at the bottom of the list to add a new  
service. In the window that opens, you need to enter the following  
information:

Public TCP Port(s): 8000
Private IP Address: 10.0.1.2
Private TCP Port(s): 8000

Once you've entered this information, click Continue. In the next  
screen, enter something like "Nicecast" to describe it so you will  
know what you're dealing with down the road. I would recommend making  
sure that the "Advertise globally using Bonjour" box is NOT checked.  
The click "Done." The list in the main window will now include your  
Nicecast item. Make sure it is checked and click "Update." Your  
AirPort will restart, and you should be good to go.

Please note that you will want to make sure that the computer that  
you're using is NOT using DHCP to automatically obtain an IP address.  
If it is, it could change addresses periodically, and another machine  
could assume the old address, in which case the route you just created  
would point to the new computer. At best, the new computer would not  
know what to do with the request. At worst, it could be a gaping  
security hole.

Jeremy R. Geerdes
Effective website design & development
Des Moines, IA

For more information or a project quote:
http://jgeerdes.home.mchsi.com
http://jgeerdes.blogspot.com
http://jgeerdes.wordpress.com
jgeerdes at mchsi.com

Unless otherwise noted, any price quotes contained within this  
communication are given in US dollars.

If you're in the Des Moines, IA, area, check out Debra Heights  
Wesleyan Church!

And check out my blog, Adventures in Web Development, at http://jgeerdes.blogspot.com 
  !


On Dec 16, 2009, at 2:50 PM, mauri booton wrote:

> Here is the url that I'm shooting for: http://207.206.196.208:8000/listen.m3u
> . My "internal" url is: http://10.0.1.2:8000/listen.m3u
>
> Once I get into the settings part of the Airport, I can find the port
> designations... just exactly what should I be entering into them? I
> don't mean to be obtuse about this... it's just an area that I don't
> understand.
>
> Thanks!!
>
> ~~ mauri ~~
> haynee at dwx.com
> Life Is Good!! Woo Hoo!
> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/mauri
> Sign Up For Automatic Updates!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From chris at kavanaughgallery.com  Wed Dec 16 15:29:38 2009
From: chris at kavanaughgallery.com (Chris)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:29:38 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] The NAT Issue...
In-Reply-To: <B49B9901-3D7E-40DC-BF78-CE37CEF13133@dwx.com>
References: <mailman.0.1260986401.8928.dmmug@dmmug.org>
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Message-ID: <55CF3FE2-3A0D-4C9B-882A-8F3AD616E543@kavanaughgallery.com>

Are you using the airport and a dsl or cable modem? I had to make  
adjustments to my airport and my qwest actiontec modem to open it up  
for port forwarding. It was to open up a bit torrent port but had the  
same result. Opening a port that is by default closed in the routers  
firewalls. Good luck. C
On Dec 16, 2009, at 2:50 PM, mauri booton wrote:

> Here is the url that I'm shooting for: http://207.206.196.208:8000/ 
> listen.m3u
> . My "internal" url is: http://10.0.1.2:8000/listen.m3u
>
> Once I get into the settings part of the Airport, I can find the port
> designations... just exactly what should I be entering into them? I
> don't mean to be obtuse about this... it's just an area that I don't
> understand.
>
> Thanks!!
>
> ~~ mauri ~~
> haynee at dwx.com
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From woohoowoohoo at me.com  Sat Dec 19 00:17:46 2009
From: woohoowoohoo at me.com (mauri booton)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 00:17:46 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] QuickTime Issue...
Message-ID: <D7DE6F7B-4234-420F-89D2-B1A1537B60C4@me.com>

I just upgraded to Snow Leopard. It seems like I have fewer file output options with QuickTime X than I did with QuickTime Pro... or am I missing something. I need to convert a .mov file into an uncompressed AVI file. Is that possible with QT X?

~~ mauri ~~
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From bailey at me.com  Sat Dec 19 14:41:20 2009
From: bailey at me.com (Bailey Ford)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:41:20 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] QuickTime Issue...
In-Reply-To: <D7DE6F7B-4234-420F-89D2-B1A1537B60C4@me.com>
References: <D7DE6F7B-4234-420F-89D2-B1A1537B60C4@me.com>
Message-ID: <9C79563D-E475-4844-A400-707F3514A4FC@me.com>

Yup. You are right. The new quicktime player doesn't do the conversions. Quicktime Player 7 is included with Snow Leopard for this reason. It's in your Utilities folder (Command-Shift-U from the Finder).

cheers,
bailey

On Dec 19, 2009, at 12:17 AM, mauri booton wrote:

> I just upgraded to Snow Leopard. It seems like I have fewer file output options with QuickTime X than I did with QuickTime Pro... or am I missing something. I need to convert a .mov file into an uncompressed AVI file. Is that possible with QT X?
> 
> ~~ mauri ~~
> woohoowoohoo at me.com
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From woodbrian77 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 19 21:49:57 2009
From: woodbrian77 at gmail.com (Brian Wood)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 21:49:57 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] cat-like command
In-Reply-To: <ddf6f4ca0912191934p46dd0836yc92947910802a770@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ddf6f4ca0912191934p46dd0836yc92947910802a770@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ddf6f4ca0912191949m2518a26ct896fb4aab5c7a276@mail.gmail.com>

Is there a command something like cat that will copy a
file into the copy/paste buffer, so I can paste the contents
somewhere after running the command?

Also I'd like to find someone willing to give me an account
on a big-endian machine.  I'm willing to give that person
investments in Ebenezer Enterprises in exchange.

TIA.

-- 
Brian Wood
Ebenezer Enterprises
http://www.webEbenezer.net
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From myztikjenz at gmail.com  Sun Dec 20 07:14:58 2009
From: myztikjenz at gmail.com (Jim Turner)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:14:58 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] cat-like command
In-Reply-To: <ddf6f4ca0912191949m2518a26ct896fb4aab5c7a276@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ddf6f4ca0912191934p46dd0836yc92947910802a770@mail.gmail.com>
	<ddf6f4ca0912191949m2518a26ct896fb4aab5c7a276@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bf8839000912200514t6f36d392wf600524206a5f5c2@mail.gmail.com>

man pbcopy

Jim

On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Brian Wood <woodbrian77 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Is there a command something like cat that will copy a
> file into the copy/paste buffer, so I can paste the contents
> somewhere after running the command?
>
> Also I'd like to find someone willing to give me an account
> on a big-endian machine.? I'm willing to give that person
> investments in Ebenezer Enterprises in exchange.
>
> TIA.
>
> --
> Brian Wood
> Ebenezer Enterprises
> http://www.webEbenezer.net
>
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From philimorept at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 20 09:55:51 2009
From: philimorept at yahoo.com (Ole Madsen)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:55:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [DM-MUG] [Cowlug] cat-like command
In-Reply-To: <ddf6f4ca0912191949m2518a26ct896fb4aab5c7a276@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <111642.15104.qm@web110812.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Klipper, a KDE clipboard cut and paste utility does that very nicely.

/Ole



--- On Sat, 12/19/09, Brian Wood <woodbrian77 at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Brian Wood <woodbrian77 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Cowlug] cat-like command
> To: cialug at cialug.org, sllug-members at sllug.org, cowlug at cowlug.org, dmmug at dmmug.org, nylug-talk at nylug.org, vanlug at robomod.net
> Received: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 7:49 PM
> 
> Is there a command something like cat that will copy a
> file into the copy/paste buffer, so I can paste the
> contents
> somewhere after running the command?
> 
> Also I'd like to find someone willing to give me an
> account
> 
> 
> on a big-endian machine.? I'm willing to give that
> person
> investments in Ebenezer Enterprises in exchange.
> 
> TIA.
> 
> -- 
> Brian Wood
> Ebenezer Enterprises
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From woohoowoohoo at me.com  Sun Dec 27 23:10:57 2009
From: woohoowoohoo at me.com (mauri booton)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:10:57 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] iPhoto Library: Identical on iMac & MacBook
Message-ID: <7FA57BB4-77C6-4382-B609-A20CCD4F08DD@me.com>

What would be the best way to duplicate my iPhoto library on my iMac for my MacBook? I want them to be identical. My iMac library is the primary photo library. The MacBook library could be sacrificed as it contains NO original photos.

Thanks!!

~~ mauri ~~
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From jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com  Mon Dec 28 14:31:50 2009
From: jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com (Jon Thompson)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:31:50 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] iPhoto Library: Identical on iMac & MacBook
In-Reply-To: <7FA57BB4-77C6-4382-B609-A20CCD4F08DD@me.com>
References: <7FA57BB4-77C6-4382-B609-A20CCD4F08DD@me.com>
Message-ID: <865f37f30912281231r33eca459g8c995eec037da9a8@mail.gmail.com>

Copy the iPhoto library from one computer to another using either an
external hard drive or over the network.

That's it.
-- 
Jon Thompson
Evolve
www.dmevolve.com
Macintosh Consulting for Small and Large Business


On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 11:10 PM, mauri booton <woohoowoohoo at me.com> wrote:

> What would be the best way to duplicate my iPhoto library on my iMac for my
> MacBook? I want them to be identical. My iMac library is the primary photo
> library. The MacBook library could be sacrificed as it contains NO original
> photos.
>
> Thanks!!
>
> ~~ mauri ~~
> woohoowoohoo at me.com
> Life Is Good! Woo Hoo!
> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/mauri
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From thiessenstuart at aol.com  Mon Dec 28 15:57:05 2009
From: thiessenstuart at aol.com (Stuart Thiessen)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:57:05 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] iPhoto Library: Identical on iMac & MacBook
In-Reply-To: <865f37f30912281231r33eca459g8c995eec037da9a8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7FA57BB4-77C6-4382-B609-A20CCD4F08DD@me.com>
	<865f37f30912281231r33eca459g8c995eec037da9a8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D57F9A51-EDB3-446B-8403-49319A70E13F@aol.com>

What about if you wanted to sync photo libraries? You add some to one computer and add some to another computer?

Just wondering. 

On Dec 28, 2009, at 14:31 , Jon Thompson wrote:

> Copy the iPhoto library from one computer to another using either an external hard drive or over the network.
> 
> That's it.
> -- 
> Jon Thompson
> Evolve
> www.dmevolve.com
> Macintosh Consulting for Small and Large Business
> 
> 
> On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 11:10 PM, mauri booton <woohoowoohoo at me.com> wrote:
> What would be the best way to duplicate my iPhoto library on my iMac for my MacBook? I want them to be identical. My iMac library is the primary photo library. The MacBook library could be sacrificed as it contains NO original photos.
> 
> Thanks!!
> 
> ~~ mauri ~~
> woohoowoohoo at me.com
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From jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com  Mon Dec 28 16:09:49 2009
From: jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com (Jon Thompson)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:09:49 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] iPhoto Library: Identical on iMac & MacBook
In-Reply-To: <D57F9A51-EDB3-446B-8403-49319A70E13F@aol.com>
References: <7FA57BB4-77C6-4382-B609-A20CCD4F08DD@me.com>
	<865f37f30912281231r33eca459g8c995eec037da9a8@mail.gmail.com>
	<D57F9A51-EDB3-446B-8403-49319A70E13F@aol.com>
Message-ID: <865f37f30912281409i6df08f67oc1c8fdee8448030f@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.fatcatsoftware.com/iplm/

This is really one area where iPhoto is really deficient.
-- 
Jon Thompson
Evolve
www.dmevolve.com
Macintosh Consulting for Small and Large Business


On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Stuart Thiessen <thiessenstuart at aol.com>wrote:

> What about if you wanted to sync photo libraries? You add some to one
> computer and add some to another computer?
>
> Just wondering.
>
> On Dec 28, 2009, at 14:31 , Jon Thompson wrote:
>
> Copy the iPhoto library from one computer to another using either an
> external hard drive or over the network.
>
> That's it.
> --
> Jon Thompson
> Evolve
> www.dmevolve.com
> Macintosh Consulting for Small and Large Business
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 11:10 PM, mauri booton <woohoowoohoo at me.com>wrote:
>
>> What would be the best way to duplicate my iPhoto library on my iMac for
>> my MacBook? I want them to be identical. My iMac library is the primary
>> photo library. The MacBook library could be sacrificed as it contains NO
>> original photos.
>>
>> Thanks!!
>>
>> ~~ mauri ~~
>> woohoowoohoo at me.com
>> Life Is Good! Woo Hoo!
>> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/mauri
>> Sign Up For Automatic Updates!!
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>>
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From jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com  Mon Dec 28 17:00:35 2009
From: jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com (Jon Thompson)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:00:35 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] The NAT Issue...
In-Reply-To: <55CF3FE2-3A0D-4C9B-882A-8F3AD616E543@kavanaughgallery.com>
References: <mailman.0.1260986401.8928.dmmug@dmmug.org>
	<B49B9901-3D7E-40DC-BF78-CE37CEF13133@dwx.com>
	<55CF3FE2-3A0D-4C9B-882A-8F3AD616E543@kavanaughgallery.com>
Message-ID: <865f37f30912281500qcfe934bhf4f9126686929bc2@mail.gmail.com>

I used to worry about DHCP changing addresses, but DHCP servers are
generally smart enough that they don't unless there is a lot of change on
your network.
-- 
Jon Thompson
Evolve
www.dmevolve.com
Macintosh Consulting for Small and Large Business


On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Chris <chris at kavanaughgallery.com> wrote:

> Are you using the airport and a dsl or cable modem? I had to make
> adjustments to my airport and my qwest actiontec modem to open it up
> for port forwarding. It was to open up a bit torrent port but had the
> same result. Opening a port that is by default closed in the routers
> firewalls. Good luck. C
> On Dec 16, 2009, at 2:50 PM, mauri booton wrote:
>
> > Here is the url that I'm shooting for: http://207.206.196.208:8000/
> > listen.m3u
> > . My "internal" url is: http://10.0.1.2:8000/listen.m3u
> >
> > Once I get into the settings part of the Airport, I can find the port
> > designations... just exactly what should I be entering into them? I
> > don't mean to be obtuse about this... it's just an area that I don't
> > understand.
> >
> > Thanks!!
> >
> > ~~ mauri ~~
> > haynee at dwx.com
> > Life Is Good!! Woo Hoo!
> > http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/mauri
> > Sign Up For Automatic Updates!!
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From jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com  Tue Dec 29 03:55:33 2009
From: jthompson-lists at dmevolve.com (Jon Thompson)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 03:55:33 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] [Cialug] OT: Qwest and Mediacom Internet Service Advice
In-Reply-To: <4B26B528.1090907@gmx.net>
References: <806AFC0F-8D53-48D7-8F69-BE26A38B10D6@gmail.com>
	<4B1AE927.9030603@foxmediasystems.com> <4B26B528.1090907@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <865f37f30912290155r4ab6adgff72dfd9c1d8ec95@mail.gmail.com>

It's not bull, it's just not understood what it means.

Cable modems share the bandwidth between you and your ISP. That means that
the traffic can get bogged down and never leave your house.

DSL has a dedicated connection between you and your ISP. You are guaranteed
to get to their equipment, which is most likely better prepared to deal with
congestion.

In both cases, the ISP most likely has oversold the bandwidth of their
uplink. This means that if everyone on the ISP jumped onto youtube, you
would see slowdowns with service. However, the way that cable modems deal
with it, those slowdowns are much more severe than how DSL handles it.
-- 
Jon Thompson
Evolve
www.dmevolve.com
Macintosh Consulting for Small and Large Business


On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Claus <cniesen at gmx.net> wrote:

> > With DSL you pay for the bandwidth which means you don't share with your
> > neighbors
>
> I know I'm late but just wanted to mention that that's bull.  I always
> believed the same until I got screwed.  Your DSL line might still be
> congested if your neighborhood is using a lot of bandwidth.  And Qwest
> doesn't guarantee anything either.  Just read my earlier mails on CIALUG.
>
> Good luck,
>   Claus
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From alan.maupin at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 08:24:13 2009
From: alan.maupin at gmail.com (alan.maupin at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:24:13 +0000
Subject: [DM-MUG] MacBook Air
Message-ID: <977624219-1262183075-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-801614263-@bda755.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>


Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?

From alan.maupin at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 08:36:41 2009
From: alan.maupin at gmail.com (alan.maupin at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:36:41 +0000
Subject: [DM-MUG] Macbook Air Spinning Wheel
Message-ID: <1882924134-1262183824-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1975796293-@bda755.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

A few days ago I operated my macbook air until the battery was completely dead.  I plugged the Air in and let it charge untill today.  When I opened the lid a little while ago the Air resumed to the desktop state but the machine was nonresponsive.  I then pressed and held the power button and hard rebooted the machine. The Air then stuck at the grey apple spinning wheel screen.  I let it spin for a few minutes and hard rebooted again. As I write this email on my blackberry the Macbook Air is still stuck at the spinning wheel, dark grey apple on a light grey screen.  Anyone have an idea what's going on?

Thanks ahead of time -- alan
Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?

From adk at 52761.com  Thu Dec 31 11:24:36 2009
From: adk at 52761.com (Allen Kiddoo)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:24:36 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Macbook Air Spinning Wheel
In-Reply-To: <1882924134-1262183824-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1975796293-@bda755.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <1882924134-1262183824-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1975796293-@bda755.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <678823f00912310924u4a487d91n51e68ebcf18a9026@mail.gmail.com>

You probably lost your pram settings by running the battery all the way down.
Lith ion batteries have no memory. No need to run battery down.

Do the old cmd+opt+p+r keyboard dance.

Allen Kiddoo

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:36 AM,  <alan.maupin at gmail.com> wrote:
> A few days ago I operated my macbook air until the battery was completely dead. ?I plugged the Air in and let it charge untill today. ?When I opened the lid a little while ago the Air resumed to the desktop state but the machine was nonresponsive. ?I then pressed and held the power button and hard rebooted the machine. The Air then stuck at the grey apple spinning wheel screen. ?I let it spin for a few minutes and hard rebooted again. As I write this email on my blackberry the Macbook Air is still stuck at the spinning wheel, dark grey apple on a light grey screen. ?Anyone have an idea what's going on?
>
> Thanks ahead of time -- alan
> Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
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From jrgeerdes at gmail.com  Thu Dec 31 11:45:29 2009
From: jrgeerdes at gmail.com (Jeremy Geerdes)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:45:29 -0600
Subject: [DM-MUG] Macbook Air Spinning Wheel
In-Reply-To: <1882924134-1262183824-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1975796293-@bda755.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <1882924134-1262183824-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1975796293-@bda755.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <D9AD0A0E-4EA1-4438-AFE8-2318A091F6DD@gmail.com>

I had a similar experience about 18 months ago. The problem is caused when power is interrupted while the data is being written to the disk. Essentially, it corrupts the directory structure. I took mine to the Apple Store and had a genius help me, and I can't recommend them highly enough.

That said, you have a couple options. DiskWarrior *may* be able to repair the damage. You may also be able to use Time Machine to go back to right before the shutdown. In my case, neither of these options worked.

In that event, what you need to do is use your system install disk to boot the machine, then go into disk utilities. If you can mount the drive at all, then you can use a terminal utility called ditto to copy much of the contents of the drive to an external disk and save as much data as possible. You will then need to format the drive and reinstall your system.

In my case, I had no backup. Fortunately, ditto did a fairly good job for me. I certainly hope you don't have as much trouble as I did! Also, if you do take it to the Apple Store, you will want to make sure to take an external drive if you have data you want to save. They don't have any loaners.

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On Dec 30, 2009, at 8:36 AM, alan.maupin at gmail.com wrote:

> A few days ago I operated my macbook air until the battery was completely dead.  I plugged the Air in and let it charge untill today.  When I opened the lid a little while ago the Air resumed to the desktop state but the machine was nonresponsive.  I then pressed and held the power button and hard rebooted the machine. The Air then stuck at the grey apple spinning wheel screen.  I let it spin for a few minutes and hard rebooted again. As I write this email on my blackberry the Macbook Air is still stuck at the spinning wheel, dark grey apple on a light grey screen.  Anyone have an idea what's going on?
> 
> Thanks ahead of time -- alan
> Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
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