From thorgrim at imaginarytower.org  Thu Apr  2 23:50:01 2009
From: thorgrim at imaginarytower.org (David McLaughlin)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 23:50:01 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] DMMUG Meeting Topics
Message-ID: <AA7EE644-A81A-4F41-888D-183A1CF5B5E6@imaginarytower.org>

Does anyone have a topic they would like presented at a meeting?

We need your ideas!

Please post to the list or e-mail me or another officer.

Thanks!

David D. McLaughlin
webmaster at dmmug.org

From homeonthefarm at ymail.com  Wed Apr  8 22:15:06 2009
From: homeonthefarm at ymail.com (Sharalyn Pliler)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 20:15:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [DM-MUG] what does this mean?
Message-ID: <948790.5860.qm@web56006.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

In my list of documents I  have some files that look like this:


dftmpKBBHCAGMkkkkkkkk--------

What does this mean? Can/should these be deleted?

Thanks,
Sharalyn



      
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From rbowler at mchsi.com  Thu Apr  9 06:16:08 2009
From: rbowler at mchsi.com (Ray Bowler)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 06:16:08 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] what does this mean?
In-Reply-To: <948790.5860.qm@web56006.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <948790.5860.qm@web56006.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F35F6E43-568F-4EF6-8BE1-20628A7BED27@mchsi.com>

Where are they at and what versionn of OS?
On Apr 8, 2009, at Apr 8, 200910:15 PM, Sharalyn Pliler wrote:

> In my list of documents I  have some files that look like this:
>
>
> dftmpKBBHCAGMkkkkkkkk--------
>
> What does this mean? Can/should these be deleted?
>
> Thanks,
> Sharalyn
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From homeonthefarm at iowatelecom.net  Wed Apr  8 21:40:21 2009
From: homeonthefarm at iowatelecom.net (Sharalyn)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:40:21 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] What does this mean?
Message-ID: <C602CA45.6E33%homeonthefarm@iowatelecom.net>

In my list of documents I  have some files that look like this:


dftmpKBBHCAGMkkkkkkkk--------

What does this mean? Can these be deleted?

Thanks,
Sharalyn



From kisnerj at dwx.com  Sun Apr 12 09:39:50 2009
From: kisnerj at dwx.com (John Kisner)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 09:39:50 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG]  Safari crashes
In-Reply-To: <C602CA45.6E33%homeonthefarm@iowatelecom.net>
References: <C602CA45.6E33%homeonthefarm@iowatelecom.net>
Message-ID: <F461BDB2-2F6D-41E9-A4D8-3749D03B7763@dwx.com>

Diagnosis is probably a lot harder than this, but I have Safari  
crashes on my iMac G5 fairly often, and was wondering if the top part  
of the report sent to Apple suggested anything like a bad memory  
chip.  I've heard the other possibility is a logic board that is going  
bad.

By the way, I wiped out the hard drive and did a clean install of  
everything a couple of months ago, and that didn't solve the problem  
at all.  We rarely use this machine except for internet browsing, but  
it does seem like the only programs that either "don't respond" or  
crash are Safari and Firefox.

John

Process:         Safari [1678]
Path:            /Applications/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari
Identifier:      com.apple.Safari
Version:         4 Public Beta (5528.16)
Build Info:      WebBrowser-55281600~1
Code Type:       PPC (Native)
Parent Process:  launchd [67]

Date/Time:       2009-04-12 09:30:32.855 -0500
OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.5.6 (9G55)
Report Version:  6

Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x00000000ff32fe24
Crashed Thread:  0

Thread 0 Crashed:
0   com.apple.JavaScriptCore      	0x95ab9f3c JSC::JSArray::mark() + 124



From thorgrim at imaginarytower.org  Sun Apr 12 12:18:14 2009
From: thorgrim at imaginarytower.org (David McLaughlin)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 12:18:14 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Safari crashes
In-Reply-To: <F461BDB2-2F6D-41E9-A4D8-3749D03B7763@dwx.com>
References: <C602CA45.6E33%homeonthefarm@iowatelecom.net>
	<F461BDB2-2F6D-41E9-A4D8-3749D03B7763@dwx.com>
Message-ID: <CE7EF299-142D-4ED3-9EFD-5D89538E8C65@imaginarytower.org>

> Apple suggested anything like a bad memory chip.

Probably not, it's just an application doing something stupid.

Have you tried "Reset Safari..." under the Safari menu?  It does wipe  
everything, cookies and history.

What plug-ins are you using "Help -> Installed Plug-ins"

They might help narrow the problem.

Oh... your using the Safari "4 Public Beta".

I personally wait for final versions and let others be pioneers (i.e.  
faces in the mud with arrows in the back).

You can also switch to Firefox (yes, it's slower) especially if you  
have problems with specific pages.

Sorry if this doesn't help much...

David D. McLaughlin
webmaster at dmmug.org

From kisnerj at dwx.com  Sun Apr 12 16:55:43 2009
From: kisnerj at dwx.com (John Kisner)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 16:55:43 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Safari crashes
In-Reply-To: <CE7EF299-142D-4ED3-9EFD-5D89538E8C65@imaginarytower.org>
References: <C602CA45.6E33%homeonthefarm@iowatelecom.net><F461BDB2-2F6D-41E9-A4D8-3749D03B7763@dwx.com>
	<CE7EF299-142D-4ED3-9EFD-5D89538E8C65@imaginarytower.org>
Message-ID: <3F80D933-2FF9-4BF1-A419-25A4C93D2C04@dwx.com>

Thanks, David.  Actually, Firefox and Safari 3 seemed to crash about  
as much as Safari 4, so I don't think it's a beta problem.  I'll try  
the reset.  This has been an on-going thing for about 2 years now, but  
seems increasingly worse.

From dean at webbwireless.net  Sun Apr 12 17:23:09 2009
From: dean at webbwireless.net (Dean L.)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 17:23:09 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Safari crashes
In-Reply-To: <3F80D933-2FF9-4BF1-A419-25A4C93D2C04@dwx.com>
References: <C602CA45.6E33%homeonthefarm@iowatelecom.net><F461BDB2-2F6D-41E9-A4D8-3749D03B7763@dwx.com>
	<CE7EF299-142D-4ED3-9EFD-5D89538E8C65@imaginarytower.org>
	<3F80D933-2FF9-4BF1-A419-25A4C93D2C04@dwx.com>
Message-ID: <7E42F547-8433-4AF4-BD05-A204A9C9B15B@webbwireless.net>

I find that Safari 4 is now letting my computer
turn off.   Safari 3 would hang up and I had to
manually terminate it.
I also found that Safari 4, when first opened had what I thought
would be a Nice Feature.   It would open up some of the last
sites and show them all in a nice display.
The trouble I ran into was that I go to a site that shows me the
messages that I have not looked at... But,  the new Safari 4 would
go to it and cancel out the messages as if I had read them.
I tweaked it a little and now it is not doing that.  But other Nice
features are not working yet..

I used to eat a lot of natural foods.
Until I learned that most people die of natural causes.

Dean L.
dean at webbwireless.net




On Apr 12, 2009, at 4:55 PM, John Kisner wrote:

> Thanks, David.  Actually, Firefox and Safari 3 seemed to crash about
> as much as Safari 4, so I don't think it's a beta problem.  I'll try
> the reset.  This has been an on-going thing for about 2 years now, but
> seems increasingly worse.
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From thorgrim at imaginarytower.org  Sun Apr 12 17:54:27 2009
From: thorgrim at imaginarytower.org (David McLaughlin)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 17:54:27 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Safari crashes
In-Reply-To: <3F80D933-2FF9-4BF1-A419-25A4C93D2C04@dwx.com>
References: <C602CA45.6E33%homeonthefarm@iowatelecom.net><F461BDB2-2F6D-41E9-A4D8-3749D03B7763@dwx.com>
	<CE7EF299-142D-4ED3-9EFD-5D89538E8C65@imaginarytower.org>
	<3F80D933-2FF9-4BF1-A419-25A4C93D2C04@dwx.com>
Message-ID: <793CE962-311C-4652-B293-E8C8173E1ECE@imaginarytower.org>

> This has been an on-going thing for about 2 years now, but
> seems increasingly worse.

Another thing you can try is to install Applejack


http://applejack.sourceforge.net/


Just don't launch it in the finder.   It is a command line app.

Install it and reboot while holding down <command>-S to boot into  
single-user mode.  Then type "applejack" and follow the instructions.

Applejack is one of the utilities I will be talking about at the  
05/26/2009 DMMUG meeting.

David D. McLaughlin
webmaster at dmmug.org

From kisnerj at dwx.com  Sun Apr 12 19:56:00 2009
From: kisnerj at dwx.com (John Kisner)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 19:56:00 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Safari crashes
In-Reply-To: <793CE962-311C-4652-B293-E8C8173E1ECE@imaginarytower.org>
References: <C602CA45.6E33%homeonthefarm@iowatelecom.net><F461BDB2-2F6D-41E9-A4D8-3749D03B7763@dwx.com><CE7EF299-142D-4ED3-9EFD-5
	D89538E8C65@imaginarytower.org><3F80D933-2FF9-4BF1-A419-25A4C93D2C04@dwx.com>
	<793CE962-311C-4652-B293-E8C8173E1ECE@imaginarytower.org>
Message-ID: <2199B40A-3A59-4004-9A2D-19DE8414E382@dwx.com>

I just finished running Applejack's series of utilities.  I've got my  
fingers crossed.  Hopefully I'll get to that May meeting and give you  
a happy report then.  Regardless, thanks for taking the time to throw  
me a possible life preserver for the Mac G5.

John

From haynee at dwx.com  Mon Apr 13 20:01:15 2009
From: haynee at dwx.com (mauri booton)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:01:15 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] iCals Don't Sync Anymore...
In-Reply-To: <mailman.0.1239555603.27943.dmmug@dmmug.org>
References: <mailman.0.1239555603.27943.dmmug@dmmug.org>
Message-ID: <91D104AD-839C-454C-964A-DB06A4FF4514@dwx.com>

My iCals are NOT syncing using Mobile Me. They did sync... now they  
don't.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!!

~~ mauri ~~
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From hfwelch at mac.com  Thu Apr 16 11:23:49 2009
From: hfwelch at mac.com (Holly Welch)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:23:49 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Failed photo dvd
Message-ID: <A1E0DF3F-B523-4A1F-84A2-8A09A464FDB5@mac.com>

I got the message via Disk Utility that a photo dvd I can't mount  
that said, Invalid B-tree node size  The volume  needs to be repaired.

Does this mean I'm never going to see these photos again??

Holly
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From kisley at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 12:07:53 2009
From: kisley at gmail.com (Keith Isley)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:07:53 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Failed photo dvd
In-Reply-To: <A1E0DF3F-B523-4A1F-84A2-8A09A464FDB5@mac.com>
References: <A1E0DF3F-B523-4A1F-84A2-8A09A464FDB5@mac.com>
Message-ID: <5b440b5c0904161007s46ea4867yd6898cc7e636629@mail.gmail.com>

It's not possible to repair a DVD volume...but if you can get it copied over
to the hard drive (as a .dmg file), you might have a shot. Not sure if Disk
Utility has the ability to do this, or if there is a third party utility
available. Anyone else have any ideas? :)
KAI


On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Holly Welch <hfwelch at mac.com> wrote:

> I got the message via Disk Utility that a photo dvd I can't mount that
> said, Invalid B-tree node size  The volume  needs to be repaired.
> Does this mean I'm never going to see these photos again??
>
> Holly
>
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From thorgrim at imaginarytower.org  Thu Apr 16 12:25:43 2009
From: thorgrim at imaginarytower.org (David McLaughlin)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:25:43 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Failed photo dvd
In-Reply-To: <5b440b5c0904161007s46ea4867yd6898cc7e636629@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A1E0DF3F-B523-4A1F-84A2-8A09A464FDB5@mac.com>
	<5b440b5c0904161007s46ea4867yd6898cc7e636629@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5D166C43-A0B8-4359-9D67-F58F893BBDCB@imaginarytower.org>

> Anyone else have any ideas?

One thing you can try is reading it in a different DVD drive.

If another drive works, get the data off fast...

David D. McLaughlin
webmaster at dmmug.org

From studias at msn.com  Thu Apr 16 22:14:33 2009
From: studias at msn.com (Geoffrey Stevens)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:14:33 -0700
Subject: [DM-MUG] Failed photo dvd
In-Reply-To: <5D166C43-A0B8-4359-9D67-F58F893BBDCB@imaginarytower.org>
References: <A1E0DF3F-B523-4A1F-84A2-8A09A464FDB5@mac.com>
	<5b440b5c0904161007s46ea4867yd6898cc7e636629@mail.gmail.com> 
	<5D166C43-A0B8-4359-9D67-F58F893BBDCB@imaginarytower.org>
Message-ID: <BAY102-W386E47C8DA61C03D37CD24A87B0@phx.gbl>


Maybe the drive or dvd is dirty? Try cleaning. Does another dvd disk play on drive?
Geoff Stevens

> From: thorgrim at imaginarytower.org
> To: dmmug at dmmug.org
> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:25:43 -0500
> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Failed photo dvd
> 
> > Anyone else have any ideas?
> 
> One thing you can try is reading it in a different DVD drive.
> 
> If another drive works, get the data off fast...
> 
> David D. McLaughlin
> webmaster at dmmug.org
> _______________________________________________
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From hfwelch at mac.com  Thu Apr 16 22:43:54 2009
From: hfwelch at mac.com (Holly Welch)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:43:54 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Failed photo dvd
In-Reply-To: <BAY102-W386E47C8DA61C03D37CD24A87B0@phx.gbl>
References: <A1E0DF3F-B523-4A1F-84A2-8A09A464FDB5@mac.com>
	<5b440b5c0904161007s46ea4867yd6898cc7e636629@mail.gmail.com>
	<5D166C43-A0B8-4359-9D67-F58F893BBDCB@imaginarytower.org>
	<BAY102-W386E47C8DA61C03D37CD24A87B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <E12CF8F6-8E3B-4757-95F6-B327B502C95F@mac.com>

Thanks for the suggestions. As it turned out, it wouldn't play, not  
even show up on the desk top.It was grayed out in Disk Utility, so I  
couldn't make a disk image. I tried a program called AppleXSoft Photo  
Recovery, and it was able to read and copy the photos. However, I had  
to buy the program in order to get the photos back in full  
resolution. But I have them! It took all day to figure this whole  
thing out, but it is still better than WORK!

Holly
On Apr 16, 2009, at 10:14 PM, Geoffrey Stevens wrote:

> Maybe the drive or dvd is dirty? Try cleaning. Does another dvd  
> disk play on drive?
> Geoff Stevens
>
> > From: thorgrim at imaginarytower.org
> > To: dmmug at dmmug.org
> > Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:25:43 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Failed photo dvd
> >
> > > Anyone else have any ideas?
> >
> > One thing you can try is reading it in a different DVD drive.
> >
> > If another drive works, get the data off fast...
> >
> > David D. McLaughlin
> > webmaster at dmmug.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > DMMUG mailing list
> > Use this Address to send mail to the list:
> > DMMUG at dmmug.org
> > Use this page to modify subscription options:
> > http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug
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> DMMUG mailing list
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From studias at msn.com  Fri Apr 17 10:56:21 2009
From: studias at msn.com (Geoffrey Stevens)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:56:21 -0700
Subject: [DM-MUG] Failed photo dvd
In-Reply-To: <E12CF8F6-8E3B-4757-95F6-B327B502C95F@mac.com>
References: <A1E0DF3F-B523-4A1F-84A2-8A09A464FDB5@mac.com>
	<5b440b5c0904161007s46ea4867yd6898cc7e636629@mail.gmail.com>
	<5D166C43-A0B8-4359-9D67-F58F893BBDCB@imaginarytower.org>
	<BAY102-W386E47C8DA61C03D37CD24A87B0@phx.gbl> 
	<E12CF8F6-8E3B-4757-95F6-B327B502C95F@mac.com>
Message-ID: <BAY102-W245C155FC85CA642339B36A87B0@phx.gbl>


That's great! 
I am glad you figured it out.

> From: hfwelch at mac.com
> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:43:54 -0500
> To: dmmug at dmmug.org
> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Failed photo dvd
> 
> Thanks for the suggestions. As it turned out, it wouldn't play, not  
> even show up on the desk top.It was grayed out in Disk Utility, so I  
> couldn't make a disk image. I tried a program called AppleXSoft Photo  
> Recovery, and it was able to read and copy the photos. However, I had  
> to buy the program in order to get the photos back in full  
> resolution. But I have them! It took all day to figure this whole  
> thing out, but it is still better than WORK!
> 
> Holly
> On Apr 16, 2009, at 10:14 PM, Geoffrey Stevens wrote:
> 
> > Maybe the drive or dvd is dirty? Try cleaning. Does another dvd  
> > disk play on drive?
> > Geoff Stevens
> >
> > > From: thorgrim at imaginarytower.org
> > > To: dmmug at dmmug.org
> > > Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:25:43 -0500
> > > Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Failed photo dvd
> > >
> > > > Anyone else have any ideas?
> > >
> > > One thing you can try is reading it in a different DVD drive.
> > >
> > > If another drive works, get the data off fast...
> > >
> > > David D. McLaughlin
> > > webmaster at dmmug.org
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > DMMUG mailing list
> > > Use this Address to send mail to the list:
> > > DMMUG at dmmug.org
> > > Use this page to modify subscription options:
> > > http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug
> > _______________________________________________
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From rbowler at mchsi.com  Sat Apr 18 09:04:10 2009
From: rbowler at mchsi.com (Ray Bowler)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 09:04:10 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] 6500 and ethernet
Message-ID: <CCAC7804-296B-4739-92F4-E0BB2FCE7F41@mchsi.com>

I am taking a last look--mostly for curiosity-- at connecting my 6500  
to the network. When I have an ethernet cable plugged into the base  
station and the ethernet port on the 6500 two green lights are on  
steady and the other two blink during startup. But when I look for  
network settings in the control panels ethernet does not show up and  
when I try to connect it says that it cannot find the modem. I cannot  
find an ethernet extension. Should I have one?

I will be moving tis machine Monday for carpet cleaners so unless I  
will probably take it downstairs until I get rid of it.


Ray Bowler

rbowler.home.mchsi.com




From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Sat Apr 18 09:23:56 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 09:23:56 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] for sale - WiebeTech SilverSATA FH drive enclosure
Message-ID: <p06240868c60f92b4cd29@[10.0.1.197]>

and three trays.  I upgraded, but it's a great way to quickly have 
external storage.  If you're interested let me know next week, after 
which I'll probably Craigslist/ or ebay it.
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Travel Research/Photography, 
http://www.JourneyZing.com; Lawyer, Discrimination/Civil Rights, Des 
Moines, Iowa http://www.herringlaw.com; personal blog, 
http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/

From thorgrim at imaginarytower.org  Sat Apr 18 09:29:07 2009
From: thorgrim at imaginarytower.org (David McLaughlin)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 09:29:07 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] 6500 and ethernet
In-Reply-To: <CCAC7804-296B-4739-92F4-E0BB2FCE7F41@mchsi.com>
References: <CCAC7804-296B-4739-92F4-E0BB2FCE7F41@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <5EE401FB-E3DD-4B16-B86F-6CBF03A7C7B3@imaginarytower.org>

> When I have an ethernet cable plugged into the base
> station and the ethernet port on the 6500 two green lights are on
> steady and the other two blink during startup.

This just means that the network hardware is talking to the switch and  
working.

The software side can still be broken.

> But when I look for  network settings in the control panels ethernet  
> does not show up and
> when I try to connect it says that it cannot find the modem. I cannot
> find an ethernet extension. Should I have one?

It would probably be easy for me to fix in person but it would take a  
long time to do via email...

My OS 9 skills are a bit rusty.

David D. McLaughlin
webmaster at dmmug.org

From cwsmith7 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 18 09:48:55 2009
From: cwsmith7 at gmail.com (CW Smith)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 09:48:55 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] 6500 and ethernet
In-Reply-To: <5EE401FB-E3DD-4B16-B86F-6CBF03A7C7B3@imaginarytower.org>
References: <CCAC7804-296B-4739-92F4-E0BB2FCE7F41@mchsi.com>
	<5EE401FB-E3DD-4B16-B86F-6CBF03A7C7B3@imaginarytower.org>
Message-ID: <29436F2E-E15F-4AE0-B47B-DA859FCED12E@gmail.com>

Ray:

I might also be able to help. I have a few 6400s/6500s in my basement  
and I'm certain at least one of them has the Apple Ethernet card --  
and thus likely has the driver as well. Between Dave and me, we've got  
you covered.

Peace,
CW

---------------------------------------------------------

CW Smith
Windows & Macintosh service and repair
Apple Certified Macintosh Technician

Phone: (515) 577-1716
cwsmith7 at gmail.com

"Guitar, bass, percussion, Macintosh"

---------------------------------------------------------

On Apr 18, 2009, at 9:29 AM, David McLaughlin wrote:

>> When I have an ethernet cable plugged into the base
>> station and the ethernet port on the 6500 two green lights are on
>> steady and the other two blink during startup.
>
> This just means that the network hardware is talking to the switch and
> working.
>
> The software side can still be broken.
>
>> But when I look for  network settings in the control panels ethernet
>> does not show up and
>> when I try to connect it says that it cannot find the modem. I cannot
>> find an ethernet extension. Should I have one?
>
> It would probably be easy for me to fix in person but it would take a
> long time to do via email...
>
> My OS 9 skills are a bit rusty.
>
> David D. McLaughlin
> webmaster at dmmug.org
> _______________________________________________
> DMMUG mailing list
> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
> DMMUG at dmmug.org
> Use this page to modify subscription options:
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From rbowler at mchsi.com  Sat Apr 18 10:06:01 2009
From: rbowler at mchsi.com (Ray Bowler)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:06:01 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] for sale - WiebeTech SilverSATA FH drive enclosure
In-Reply-To: <p06240868c60f92b4cd29@[10.0.1.197]>
References: <p06240868c60f92b4cd29@[10.0.1.197]>
Message-ID: <9EE12EB1-D4B9-42FD-B894-A69B7D6D1143@mchsi.com>

How much do you want for it? What are the trays?

On Apr 18, 2009, at Apr 18, 20099:23 AM, Victoria L. Herring wrote:

> and three trays.  I upgraded, but it's a great way to quickly have
> external storage.  If you're interested let me know next week, after
> which I'll probably Craigslist/ or ebay it.
> -- 
> Victoria L. Herring, Travel Research/Photography,
> http://www.JourneyZing.com; Lawyer, Discrimination/Civil Rights, Des
> Moines, Iowa http://www.herringlaw.com; personal blog,
> http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/
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From rbowler at mchsi.com  Sat Apr 18 10:47:41 2009
From: rbowler at mchsi.com (Ray Bowler)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:47:41 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] 6500 and ethernet
In-Reply-To: <29436F2E-E15F-4AE0-B47B-DA859FCED12E@gmail.com>
References: <CCAC7804-296B-4739-92F4-E0BB2FCE7F41@mchsi.com>
	<5EE401FB-E3DD-4B16-B86F-6CBF03A7C7B3@imaginarytower.org>
	<29436F2E-E15F-4AE0-B47B-DA859FCED12E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B0879222-B2BC-4AE5-B0B7-D4CD21961216@mchsi.com>

Thanks Dave and CW.

I had a thought and I found two active ethernet extensions--Apple  
Ethernet CSII and Apple Ethernet NB. I was looking for something  
starting with Ethernet. This is a third party card so I suspect that  
the driver for the Apple doesn't work with it. Would that be good  
assumption? I'm going to open it up later today and see if there is a  
brand. I believe it came out of a PC.

On Apr 18, 2009, at Apr 18, 20099:48 AM, CW Smith wrote:

> Ray:
>
> I might also be able to help. I have a few 6400s/6500s in my basement
> and I'm certain at least one of them has the Apple Ethernet card --
> and thus likely has the driver as well. Between Dave and me, we've got
> you covered.
>
> Peace,
> CW
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> CW Smith
> Windows & Macintosh service and repair
> Apple Certified Macintosh Technician
>
> Phone: (515) 577-1716
> cwsmith7 at gmail.com
>
> "Guitar, bass, percussion, Macintosh"
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> On Apr 18, 2009, at 9:29 AM, David McLaughlin wrote:
>
>>> When I have an ethernet cable plugged into the base
>>> station and the ethernet port on the 6500 two green lights are on
>>> steady and the other two blink during startup.
>>
>> This just means that the network hardware is talking to the switch  
>> and
>> working.
>>
>> The software side can still be broken.
>>
>>> But when I look for  network settings in the control panels ethernet
>>> does not show up and
>>> when I try to connect it says that it cannot find the modem. I  
>>> cannot
>>> find an ethernet extension. Should I have one?
>>
>> It would probably be easy for me to fix in person but it would take a
>> long time to do via email...
>>
>> My OS 9 skills are a bit rusty.
>>
>> David D. McLaughlin
>> webmaster at dmmug.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> DMMUG mailing list
>> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
>> DMMUG at dmmug.org
>> Use this page to modify subscription options:
>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug
>
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rbowler.home.mchsi.com




From thorgrim at imaginarytower.org  Sat Apr 18 10:52:27 2009
From: thorgrim at imaginarytower.org (David McLaughlin)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:52:27 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] 6500 and ethernet
In-Reply-To: <B0879222-B2BC-4AE5-B0B7-D4CD21961216@mchsi.com>
References: <CCAC7804-296B-4739-92F4-E0BB2FCE7F41@mchsi.com>
	<5EE401FB-E3DD-4B16-B86F-6CBF03A7C7B3@imaginarytower.org>
	<29436F2E-E15F-4AE0-B47B-DA859FCED12E@gmail.com>
	<B0879222-B2BC-4AE5-B0B7-D4CD21961216@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <B1CF36B2-28B1-4FBF-81F2-CAD9D170054B@imaginarytower.org>

> This is a third party card so I suspect that
> the driver for the Apple doesn't work with it. Would that be good
> assumption? I'm going to open it up later today and see if there is a
> brand. I believe it came out of a PC.

Depends on the Brand of card.  Some had OS 9 drivers, most did not.

David D. McLaughlin
webmaster at dmmug.org

From rbowler at mchsi.com  Sat Apr 18 11:57:13 2009
From: rbowler at mchsi.com (Ray Bowler)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 11:57:13 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Ahoto Shop Elements 6 rectangular marque disappeared
Message-ID: <2ACA86D3-47C7-4D18-B4DD-F1E341CA1DF0@mchsi.com>

I have been scanning negatives into PSE 6 and sometimes using the  
rectangular tool to crop. I did this once this morning and then on the  
next scan the rectangular marque is gone and I have the oval and the  
lasso instead. I cannot figure out how to change the palette bin. Any  
help appreciated.

Ray Bowler

rbowler.home.mchsi.com




From hfwelch at mac.com  Sat Apr 18 12:10:30 2009
From: hfwelch at mac.com (Holly Welch)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:10:30 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Ahoto Shop Elements 6 rectangular marque disappeared
In-Reply-To: <2ACA86D3-47C7-4D18-B4DD-F1E341CA1DF0@mchsi.com>
References: <2ACA86D3-47C7-4D18-B4DD-F1E341CA1DF0@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <ACF4CA82-C0E2-4057-96FB-8EB0DEEC8A7D@mac.com>

Hold the cursor on the tool, and it will show you the options. The  
marquee has both options. Look in your preferences to see the method  
of changing the mode of the tool. Sometimes it is just to touch the  
letter (m for marquee), and it just changes to the next one. Then you  
have to be careful that you have the right tool selected. Sometimes  
it is "shift" and the shortcut. That makes it more secure, so it  
won't change on you in the middle. I don't have the shift on, so I  
often think I'm using the brush, but have hit the b key, and I'm  
using the pencil.

If this doesn't make sense, let me know.
Holly
On Apr 18, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Ray Bowler wrote:

> I have been scanning negatives into PSE 6 and sometimes using the
> rectangular tool to crop. I did this once this morning and then on the
> next scan the rectangular marque is gone and I have the oval and the
> lasso instead. I cannot figure out how to change the palette bin. Any
> help appreciated.
>
> Ray Bowler
>
> rbowler.home.mchsi.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> DMMUG mailing list
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From rbowler at mchsi.com  Sat Apr 18 12:35:04 2009
From: rbowler at mchsi.com (Ray Bowler)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:35:04 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Ahoto Shop Elements 6 rectangular marque disappeared
In-Reply-To: <ACF4CA82-C0E2-4057-96FB-8EB0DEEC8A7D@mac.com>
References: <2ACA86D3-47C7-4D18-B4DD-F1E341CA1DF0@mchsi.com>
	<ACF4CA82-C0E2-4057-96FB-8EB0DEEC8A7D@mac.com>
Message-ID: <AB3619AF-128E-4C9A-B05F-F2ACE95C2666@mchsi.com>

Thanks Holly. I knew it had to be simple but the help wasn't helpful.


On Apr 18, 2009, at Apr 18, 200912:10 PM, Holly Welch wrote:

> Hold the cursor on the tool, and it will show you the options. The
> marquee has both options. Look in your preferences to see the method
> of changing the mode of the tool. Sometimes it is just to touch the
> letter (m for marquee), and it just changes to the next one. Then you
> have to be careful that you have the right tool selected. Sometimes
> it is "shift" and the shortcut. That makes it more secure, so it
> won't change on you in the middle. I don't have the shift on, so I
> often think I'm using the brush, but have hit the b key, and I'm
> using the pencil.
>
> If this doesn't make sense, let me know.
> Holly
> On Apr 18, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Ray Bowler wrote:
>
>> I have been scanning negatives into PSE 6 and sometimes using the
>> rectangular tool to crop. I did this once this morning and then on  
>> the
>> next scan the rectangular marque is gone and I have the oval and the
>> lasso instead. I cannot figure out how to change the palette bin. Any
>> help appreciated.
>>
>> Ray Bowler
>>
>> rbowler.home.mchsi.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From rbowler at mchsi.com  Sat Apr 18 15:00:41 2009
From: rbowler at mchsi.com (Ray Bowler)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:00:41 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] 6500 and ethernet
In-Reply-To: <B1CF36B2-28B1-4FBF-81F2-CAD9D170054B@imaginarytower.org>
References: <CCAC7804-296B-4739-92F4-E0BB2FCE7F41@mchsi.com>
	<5EE401FB-E3DD-4B16-B86F-6CBF03A7C7B3@imaginarytower.org>
	<29436F2E-E15F-4AE0-B47B-DA859FCED12E@gmail.com>
	<B0879222-B2BC-4AE5-B0B7-D4CD21961216@mchsi.com>
	<B1CF36B2-28B1-4FBF-81F2-CAD9D170054B@imaginarytower.org>
Message-ID: <3CEEBC48-5065-4199-B943-CC465FBBFFC6@mchsi.com>

I didn't have to open it up--couldn't because the screws are bad but  
there was an Ansanti label and the information I needed to download a  
driver. When I opened TCP/IP and changed it to use DHCP it was  
assigned the correct address for the server, my computer, the mask and  
its address of 10.0.1.3 so they are talking to each other.

I can connect as a guest but I haven't got the right ID and password  
yet. Should Apple Talk be on? Should the Apple Ethernet extension be  
active?

On Apr 18, 2009, at Apr 18, 200910:52 AM, David McLaughlin wrote:

>> This is a third party card so I suspect that
>> the driver for the Apple doesn't work with it. Would that be good
>> assumption? I'm going to open it up later today and see if there is a
>> brand. I believe it came out of a PC.
>
> Depends on the Brand of card.  Some had OS 9 drivers, most did not.
>
> David D. McLaughlin
> webmaster at dmmug.org
> _______________________________________________
> DMMUG mailing list
> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
> DMMUG at dmmug.org
> Use this page to modify subscription options:
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Ray Bowler

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From alan.maupin at gmail.com  Sun Apr 19 17:46:57 2009
From: alan.maupin at gmail.com (Alan Maupin)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:46:57 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Question on Backup Scheme
Message-ID: <E6DAADFC-582A-4612-ABB6-53D14CD45E54@gmail.com>

Greetings,

I recently installed a firewire HD enclosure and configured it with  
dual 1.5 TB drives configured as JBOD.  The purpose of the enclosure  
is to store Final Cut DV editing projects on one 1.5 TB drive and  
provide a redundant copy on the other drive.

I want to backup one drive to the other daily. I only want to backup  
the files that have changed and I want the backup to mirror the  
original exactly.  Ultimately if one drive malfunctions I want a copy  
ready to continue.

I don't want to use Software RAID mirroring because I read that it can  
affect the data throughput performance since files are being written  
twice, and  don't want to use Timemachine since it's already used to  
backup my systems drive.

Would Carbon Copy Cloner be a good alternative for this backup scheme?

Thanks,
Alan

From cwsmith7 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 19 18:17:42 2009
From: cwsmith7 at gmail.com (CW Smith)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:17:42 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Question on Backup Scheme
In-Reply-To: <E6DAADFC-582A-4612-ABB6-53D14CD45E54@gmail.com>
References: <E6DAADFC-582A-4612-ABB6-53D14CD45E54@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C587A1B8-F9B3-4233-A8D5-D780B1860BBA@gmail.com>

SuperDuper would also be an excellent choice. www.shirtpocket.com

Peace,
CW

---------------------------------------------------------

CW Smith
Windows & Macintosh service and repair
Apple Certified Macintosh Technician

Phone: (515) 577-1716
cwsmith7 at gmail.com

"Guitar, bass, percussion, Macintosh"

---------------------------------------------------------

On Apr 19, 2009, at 5:46 PM, Alan Maupin wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I recently installed a firewire HD enclosure and configured it with
> dual 1.5 TB drives configured as JBOD.  The purpose of the enclosure
> is to store Final Cut DV editing projects on one 1.5 TB drive and
> provide a redundant copy on the other drive.
>
> I want to backup one drive to the other daily. I only want to backup
> the files that have changed and I want the backup to mirror the
> original exactly.  Ultimately if one drive malfunctions I want a copy
> ready to continue.
>
> I don't want to use Software RAID mirroring because I read that it can
> affect the data throughput performance since files are being written
> twice, and  don't want to use Timemachine since it's already used to
> backup my systems drive.
>
> Would Carbon Copy Cloner be a good alternative for this backup scheme?
>
> Thanks,
> Alan
> _______________________________________________
> DMMUG mailing list
> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
> DMMUG at dmmug.org
> Use this page to modify subscription options:
> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug


From alan.maupin at gmail.com  Tue Apr 21 11:15:51 2009
From: alan.maupin at gmail.com (Alan Maupin)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 11:15:51 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Question on Backup Scheme
In-Reply-To: <C587A1B8-F9B3-4233-A8D5-D780B1860BBA@gmail.com>
References: <E6DAADFC-582A-4612-ABB6-53D14CD45E54@gmail.com>
	<C587A1B8-F9B3-4233-A8D5-D780B1860BBA@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e746971b0904210915w21f45f69pbf763016e831df05@mail.gmail.com>

CW - Thanks for the tip on Superduper!

I've setup Carbon Copy Cloner and it is working as intended.  Every 24
hours it looks at drive one and replicates new or deleted files on
drive two.   I'm wondering if this is the most efficient method for
achieving my purpose?



On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 6:17 PM, CW Smith <cwsmith7 at gmail.com> wrote:
> SuperDuper would also be an excellent choice. www.shirtpocket.com
>
> Peace,
> CW
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> CW Smith
> Windows & Macintosh service and repair
> Apple Certified Macintosh Technician
>
> Phone: (515) 577-1716
> cwsmith7 at gmail.com
>
> "Guitar, bass, percussion, Macintosh"
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> On Apr 19, 2009, at 5:46 PM, Alan Maupin wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I recently installed a firewire HD enclosure and configured it with
>> dual 1.5 TB drives configured as JBOD. ?The purpose of the enclosure
>> is to store Final Cut DV editing projects on one 1.5 TB drive and
>> provide a redundant copy on the other drive.
>>
>> I want to backup one drive to the other daily. I only want to backup
>> the files that have changed and I want the backup to mirror the
>> original exactly. ?Ultimately if one drive malfunctions I want a copy
>> ready to continue.
>>
>> I don't want to use Software RAID mirroring because I read that it can
>> affect the data throughput performance since files are being written
>> twice, and ?don't want to use Timemachine since it's already used to
>> backup my systems drive.
>>
>> Would Carbon Copy Cloner be a good alternative for this backup scheme?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alan
>> _______________________________________________
>> DMMUG mailing list
>> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
>> DMMUG at dmmug.org
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From robolaw at aol.com  Tue Apr 21 11:21:25 2009
From: robolaw at aol.com (Michael R. Hoffmann)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 11:21:25 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Question on Backup Scheme
In-Reply-To: <e746971b0904210915w21f45f69pbf763016e831df05@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E6DAADFC-582A-4612-ABB6-53D14CD45E54@gmail.com>
	<C587A1B8-F9B3-4233-A8D5-D780B1860BBA@gmail.com>
	<e746971b0904210915w21f45f69pbf763016e831df05@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2DEE1742-C861-4039-A227-B9FDB045F127@aol.com>

Have you looked at a mirrored RAID array?

On Apr 21, 2009, at 11:15 AM, Alan Maupin wrote:

> CW - Thanks for the tip on Superduper!
>
> I've setup Carbon Copy Cloner and it is working as intended.  Every 24
> hours it looks at drive one and replicates new or deleted files on
> drive two.   I'm wondering if this is the most efficient method for
> achieving my purpose?
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 6:17 PM, CW Smith <cwsmith7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> SuperDuper would also be an excellent choice. www.shirtpocket.com
>>
>> Peace,
>> CW
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> CW Smith
>> Windows & Macintosh service and repair
>> Apple Certified Macintosh Technician
>>
>> Phone: (515) 577-1716
>> cwsmith7 at gmail.com
>>
>> "Guitar, bass, percussion, Macintosh"
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> On Apr 19, 2009, at 5:46 PM, Alan Maupin wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> I recently installed a firewire HD enclosure and configured it with
>>> dual 1.5 TB drives configured as JBOD.  The purpose of the enclosure
>>> is to store Final Cut DV editing projects on one 1.5 TB drive and
>>> provide a redundant copy on the other drive.
>>>
>>> I want to backup one drive to the other daily. I only want to backup
>>> the files that have changed and I want the backup to mirror the
>>> original exactly.  Ultimately if one drive malfunctions I want a  
>>> copy
>>> ready to continue.
>>>
>>> I don't want to use Software RAID mirroring because I read that  
>>> it can
>>> affect the data throughput performance since files are being written
>>> twice, and  don't want to use Timemachine since it's already used to
>>> backup my systems drive.
>>>
>>> Would Carbon Copy Cloner be a good alternative for this backup  
>>> scheme?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alan
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> DMMUG mailing list
>>> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
>>> DMMUG at dmmug.org
>>> Use this page to modify subscription options:
>>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug
>>
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From alan.maupin at gmail.com  Tue Apr 21 12:14:27 2009
From: alan.maupin at gmail.com (Alan Maupin)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 12:14:27 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Question on Backup Scheme
In-Reply-To: <2DEE1742-C861-4039-A227-B9FDB045F127@aol.com>
References: <E6DAADFC-582A-4612-ABB6-53D14CD45E54@gmail.com>
	<C587A1B8-F9B3-4233-A8D5-D780B1860BBA@gmail.com>
	<e746971b0904210915w21f45f69pbf763016e831df05@mail.gmail.com>
	<2DEE1742-C861-4039-A227-B9FDB045F127@aol.com>
Message-ID: <2FE3F4A1-0A1E-455F-8917-7E9A1F989299@gmail.com>

My external hard drive enclosure has two bays with two 1.5 TB drives  
and it provides two options: JBOD or RAID 0.  I've read that OS X  
software mirroring is not a good option since the files must be  
written twice.  I'm operating on Firewire 400 editing DV in Final Cut.


On Apr 21, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Michael R. Hoffmann wrote:

> Have you looked at a mirrored RAID array?
>
> On Apr 21, 2009, at 11:15 AM, Alan Maupin wrote:
>
>> CW - Thanks for the tip on Superduper!
>>
>> I've setup Carbon Copy Cloner and it is working as intended.  Every  
>> 24
>> hours it looks at drive one and replicates new or deleted files on
>> drive two.   I'm wondering if this is the most efficient method for
>> achieving my purpose?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 6:17 PM, CW Smith <cwsmith7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> SuperDuper would also be an excellent choice. www.shirtpocket.com
>>>
>>> Peace,
>>> CW
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> CW Smith
>>> Windows & Macintosh service and repair
>>> Apple Certified Macintosh Technician
>>>
>>> Phone: (515) 577-1716
>>> cwsmith7 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> "Guitar, bass, percussion, Macintosh"
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> On Apr 19, 2009, at 5:46 PM, Alan Maupin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Greetings,
>>>>
>>>> I recently installed a firewire HD enclosure and configured it with
>>>> dual 1.5 TB drives configured as JBOD.  The purpose of the  
>>>> enclosure
>>>> is to store Final Cut DV editing projects on one 1.5 TB drive and
>>>> provide a redundant copy on the other drive.
>>>>
>>>> I want to backup one drive to the other daily. I only want to  
>>>> backup
>>>> the files that have changed and I want the backup to mirror the
>>>> original exactly.  Ultimately if one drive malfunctions I want a
>>>> copy
>>>> ready to continue.
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to use Software RAID mirroring because I read that
>>>> it can
>>>> affect the data throughput performance since files are being  
>>>> written
>>>> twice, and  don't want to use Timemachine since it's already used  
>>>> to
>>>> backup my systems drive.
>>>>
>>>> Would Carbon Copy Cloner be a good alternative for this backup
>>>> scheme?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Alan
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From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Tue Apr 21 13:39:00 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:39:00 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] The Seagate firmware issue
Message-ID: <p0624082ec613c2ff527f@[10.0.1.197]>

I have a few drives that may or may not have that issue and need to 
deal with them [they're backups and haven't been used since] - I want 
to make sure I understand what I can or should do to 'fix' those 
drives so they may not become useless bricks = or should I just take 
all the data off them and trash them???
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Travel Research/Photography, 
http://www.JourneyZing.com; Lawyer, Discrimination/Civil Rights, Des 
Moines, Iowa http://www.herringlaw.com; personal blog, 
http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/

From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Wed Apr 22 08:18:02 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:18:02 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Electrical Q ref external harddrives
Message-ID: <p0624085bc614c955cdf2@[10.0.1.197]>

I have 50G Western Dig. drive that is allegedly self USB powered but
maybe not enough from a laptop usb port  [it does work off my MacPro
but not laptop] = it does have a port for power adapter and notes I
have on it says "needs AC 100-240vac, 50-60hz, .3AMax, 24VA-31VA, DC
output 5Vdc = 2A"

Radio Shack had one for $25 which sounded nuts to me, but what do I
know.  Any ideas as to whether that's the best I would do?  Or other
options?

Anywhere else in town to get one cheaper?  I need to send this off to 
my daughter this week [in Chile] and her little MacBook probably 
won't pass thru enough power.
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Travel Research/Photography, 
http://www.JourneyZing.com; Lawyer, Discrimination/Civil Rights, Des 
Moines, Iowa http://www.herringlaw.com; personal blog, 
http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/

From robolaw at aol.com  Wed Apr 22 08:42:23 2009
From: robolaw at aol.com (Michael R. Hoffmann)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:42:23 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Electrical Q ref external harddrives
In-Reply-To: <p0624085bc614c955cdf2@[10.0.1.197]>
References: <p0624085bc614c955cdf2@[10.0.1.197]>
Message-ID: <2F47204B-86AC-4E79-86B7-12495DDB1418@aol.com>

I would call Midstate, http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/product- 
compint-0000587228-page.html

On Apr 22, 2009, at 8:18 AM, Victoria L. Herring wrote:

> I have 50G Western Dig. drive that is allegedly self USB powered but
> maybe not enough from a laptop usb port  [it does work off my MacPro
> but not laptop] = it does have a port for power adapter and notes I
> have on it says "needs AC 100-240vac, 50-60hz, .3AMax, 24VA-31VA, DC
> output 5Vdc = 2A"
>
> Radio Shack had one for $25 which sounded nuts to me, but what do I
> know.  Any ideas as to whether that's the best I would do?  Or other
> options?
>
> Anywhere else in town to get one cheaper?  I need to send this off to
> my daughter this week [in Chile] and her little MacBook probably
> won't pass thru enough power.
> -- 
> Victoria L. Herring, Travel Research/Photography,
> http://www.JourneyZing.com; Lawyer, Discrimination/Civil Rights, Des
> Moines, Iowa http://www.herringlaw.com; personal blog,
> http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/
> _______________________________________________
> DMMUG mailing list
> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
> DMMUG at dmmug.org
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From cwsmith7 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 22 09:01:27 2009
From: cwsmith7 at gmail.com (CW Smith)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:01:27 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Electrical Q ref external harddrives
In-Reply-To: <p0624085bc614c955cdf2@[10.0.1.197]>
References: <p0624085bc614c955cdf2@[10.0.1.197]>
Message-ID: <78E2053B-D3DA-4C9E-9169-FE67BC4AC8D2@gmail.com>

Victoria:

Tell us more about the laptop that won't power this drive: is it new  
enough to have USB 2.0? or is it an older iBook/PowerBook with USB 1.1?

USB 2.0 (on your Mac Pro and MacBook) carries more current than USB  
1.1 and shouldn't require additional power. More info please?

Peace,
CW

---------------------------------------------------------

CW Smith
Windows & Macintosh service and repair
Apple Certified Macintosh Technician

Phone: (515) 577-1716
cwsmith7 at gmail.com

"Guitar, bass, percussion, Macintosh"

---------------------------------------------------------

On Apr 22, 2009, at 8:18 AM, Victoria L. Herring wrote:

> I have 50G Western Dig. drive that is allegedly self USB powered but
> maybe not enough from a laptop usb port  [it does work off my MacPro
> but not laptop] = it does have a port for power adapter and notes I
> have on it says "needs AC 100-240vac, 50-60hz, .3AMax, 24VA-31VA, DC
> output 5Vdc = 2A"
>
> Radio Shack had one for $25 which sounded nuts to me, but what do I
> know.  Any ideas as to whether that's the best I would do?  Or other
> options?
>
> Anywhere else in town to get one cheaper?  I need to send this off to
> my daughter this week [in Chile] and her little MacBook probably
> won't pass thru enough power.
> -- 
> Victoria L. Herring, Travel Research/Photography,
> http://www.JourneyZing.com; Lawyer, Discrimination/Civil Rights, Des
> Moines, Iowa http://www.herringlaw.com; personal blog,
> http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/
> _______________________________________________
> DMMUG mailing list
> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
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From alan.maupin at gmail.com  Wed Apr 22 09:14:15 2009
From: alan.maupin at gmail.com (Alan Maupin)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:14:15 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Electrical Q ref external harddrives
In-Reply-To: <p0624085bc614c955cdf2@[10.0.1.197]>
References: <p0624085bc614c955cdf2@[10.0.1.197]>
Message-ID: <64828DE3-36E7-45A1-8DBE-24F265192BA5@gmail.com>

Most external 2.5 (not 3.5) drives up to 40-GB can be powered by a  
single USB port.  Drives larger that 40-GB (2.5) require a special  
dual USB Y plug.

Google this:  (2 Type A to 1 Mini 5)


On Apr 22, 2009, at 8:18 AM, Victoria L. Herring wrote:

> I have 50G Western Dig. drive that is allegedly self USB powered but
> maybe not enough from a laptop usb port  [it does work off my MacPro
> but not laptop] = it does have a port for power adapter and notes I
> have on it says "needs AC 100-240vac, 50-60hz, .3AMax, 24VA-31VA, DC
> output 5Vdc = 2A"
>
> Radio Shack had one for $25 which sounded nuts to me, but what do I
> know.  Any ideas as to whether that's the best I would do?  Or other
> options?
>
> Anywhere else in town to get one cheaper?  I need to send this off to
> my daughter this week [in Chile] and her little MacBook probably
> won't pass thru enough power.
> -- 
> Victoria L. Herring, Travel Research/Photography,
> http://www.JourneyZing.com; Lawyer, Discrimination/Civil Rights, Des
> Moines, Iowa http://www.herringlaw.com; personal blog,
> http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/
> _______________________________________________
> DMMUG mailing list
> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
> DMMUG at dmmug.org
> Use this page to modify subscription options:
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From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Wed Apr 22 09:15:58 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:15:58 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Electrical Q ref external harddrives
In-Reply-To: <78E2053B-D3DA-4C9E-9169-FE67BC4AC8D2@gmail.com>
References: <p0624085bc614c955cdf2@[10.0.1.197]>
	<78E2053B-D3DA-4C9E-9169-FE67BC4AC8D2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <p06240869c614d7080400@[10.0.1.197]>

Kate's 'old' MacBookPro 12" -- and she's in Chile so not sure ref. 
other power needs
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Travel Research/Photography, 
http://www.JourneyZing.com; Lawyer, Discrimination/Civil Rights, Des 
Moines, Iowa http://www.herringlaw.com; personal blog, 
http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/

From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Wed Apr 22 09:52:01 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:52:01 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] iMacG5 for sale
Message-ID: <p06240870c614dda59090@[10.0.1.197]>

Not immediately, but I am thinking of selling the iMacG5 I have -- I 
can do it soon, but do need to get a replacement and clean it off etc.

20" screen, 2.1ghz, 250G harddrive, 1G ram [at least] - works just 
fine, but Applecare ended earlier this year.  Taken good care of, 
limited use.... incl. papers and all disks etc....

Various prices around the internet are in the $600 range.

If interested, contact me off list.
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Travel Research/Photography, 
http://www.JourneyZing.com; Lawyer, Discrimination/Civil Rights, Des 
Moines, Iowa http://www.herringlaw.com; personal blog, 
http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/

From newz at bearfruit.org  Wed Apr 22 11:12:05 2009
From: newz at bearfruit.org (Matthew Nuzum)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:12:05 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Electrical Q ref external harddrives
In-Reply-To: <p0624085bc614c955cdf2@10.0.1.197>
References: <p0624085bc614c955cdf2@10.0.1.197>
Message-ID: <f3c0b4080904220912i254c5cdeh441ec2fb95162dbf@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Victoria L. Herring <VLH at herringlaw.com> wrote:
> I have 50G Western Dig. drive that is allegedly self USB powered but
> maybe not enough from a laptop usb port ?[it does work off my MacPro
> but not laptop] = it does have a port for power adapter and notes I
> have on it says "needs AC 100-240vac, 50-60hz, .3AMax, 24VA-31VA, DC
> output 5Vdc = 2A"
>
> Radio Shack had one for $25 which sounded nuts to me, but what do I
> know. ?Any ideas as to whether that's the best I would do? ?Or other
> options?
>
> Anywhere else in town to get one cheaper? ?I need to send this off to
> my daughter this week [in Chile] and her little MacBook probably
> won't pass thru enough power.

That's too expensive. Probably because the drive is saying it needs 2A
which is very very high. I suspect they've over specified it. (I
suspect this because it works on one of your computers and I really
doubt it's pumping 2A out it's USB port which is only rated for 0.5A -
aka 500ma)

Any place that sells electronic gadgets will likely have a universal
power adapter that can fit this. I've also seen usb cords that have
two connectors that plug into the PC so that it can use the power from
two ports.

-- 
Matthew Nuzum
newz2000 on freenode, skype, linkedin, identi.ca and twitter

From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Thu Apr 23 11:32:01 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:32:01 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Fwd: Prizmo,
 or how to scan with a digital camera: 25% discount for you!
Message-ID: <p0624089ac616487197cf@[10.0.1.197]>

>
>Dear Mac User Group,
>
>Creaceed has released Prizmo 1.0, its new Mac application for 
>scanning everything thanks to a digital camera. From now on, if you 
>can take a picture of something with your camera, you don't need to 
>buy a scanner anymore. Save some room and money, and use Prizmo 
>instead to scan your documents!
>
>Moreover, scanning with Prizmo is not limited to documents. As 
>Prizmo corrects lens distortion and perspective, you can scan almost 
>everything: common documents (invoices, receipts) as well as less 
>usual documents (boards, giant advertisements); documents of all 
>sizes (regular formats like US Letter, US Legal, and custom); 
>portrait and landscape documents; indoor and outdoor photographs. A 
>handy 
><http://ethreemail.com/e3ds/mail_link.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.creaceed.com%2Fprizmo%2Fuser_guides.html&i=0&d=3EC46CB3-9D05-443D-814A-DF5EC6D9DCB1&e=president at dmmug.org>user 
>guide is available, explaining how to use Prizmo and how to 
>calibrate your camera.
>
>
>Here are a few examples of what you can do thanks to Prizmo:
>- Copy a document although you don't have a copier at home.
>- Save your receipts on a hard disk for the day you might get a tax control.
>- Get rid of the business cards which are all over your office.
>- Save a menu in a restaurant to impress your next date.
>- Send to your friends the poster of an event (party, concert,...) 
>you would like to attend.
>- Save nice advertisements for giving you ideas for your next 
>marketing campaign
>- ...
>
>
>How does Prizmo work?
>1.Take a picture of your document.
>2. Import it into Prizmo.
>3. Select the part of the photograph you need.
>4. Easily process the image in a few clicks (change brightness, 
>contrast, height and width...).
>5. Drag and drop it to your desktop.
>6. Send the image by email, print it, save it on your computer or on 
>an external disk... as you like it!
>
>Prizmo is Leopard only, and is available in English, French and German.
>For more information, 
><http://ethreemail.com/e3ds/mail_link.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.creaceed.com%2Fprizmo&i=1&d=3EC46CB3-9D05-443D-814A-DF5EC6D9DCB1&e=president at dmmug.org>go 
>to our website.
>
>
>25% discount only for you!
>Until May 23rd, Mac User Groups Members can get a 25% discount off 
>the regular price (i.e. USD 29.95 instead of USD 39.95).
>The only thing you have to do is to use following coupon code when 
>you order (paste it in the field "Coupon code (optional"):
>MUGEN_RWAKKZVA3Q.
>Each Mac User Group can use its coupon code up to 100 times, i.e. 
>100 lucky Mac Users!

-- 
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http://www.JourneyZing.com; Lawyer, Discrimination/Civil Rights, Des 
Moines, Iowa http://www.herringlaw.com; personal blog, 
http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/
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From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Fri Apr 24 08:36:19 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:36:19 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Fun...Lauren Video
Message-ID: <p0624080ac61770b855a8@[10.0.1.197]>

>
>
><http://macnutsandbolts.com/admin/lauren/>

-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Travel Research/Photography, 
http://www.JourneyZing.com; Lawyer, Discrimination/Civil Rights, Des 
Moines, Iowa http://www.herringlaw.com; personal blog, 
http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/

From victoria at journeyzing.com  Fri Apr 24 14:44:04 2009
From: victoria at journeyzing.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:44:04 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Apple User Group Bulletin for April
Message-ID: <p06240810c617c5fb5110@[10.0.1.197]>

I have some FREE things for people who are 
willing to test and review [we're talking about 1 
page reviews, not tomes] -- please email me 
directly of your interest.


>
>    1. Apple User Group Bulletin - April 23, 2009
>CONTENTS
>
>Community News - Members
>.......................
>
>1] - O'Reilly Invitation: Northeast Community/User Group Leader Summit
>2] - Geek Heaven: 33rd Annual Trenton Computer Festival
>3] - Bob "Dr. Mac" LeVitus: 2009 Mid-Atlantic MUG Tour
>4] - Making the Connection: Claudia Crask and the SF Cutters Group
>5] - Celebrating: Mac Day at SMU in 2009
>6] - Milestones
>
>COMMUNITY NEWS - MEMBERS
>_____________________________________________________________________
>
>1] - O'Reilly Invitation: Northeast Community/User Group Leader Summit
>........................
>
>Marsee Henon of O'Reilly invites user group leaders to a special
>Northeast community/user group leader summit on May 2, from 11 a.m. to 5
>p.m. Topics include building community, finding relevant meeting topics,
>attracting/keeping members, using social media tools to get the word
>out, working with vendors and collaborating on group events.
>
>O'Reilly Media is hosting the event with Microsoft at their New England
>Research and Development Center (NERD) in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and
>has also invited other industry notables. And, there is no fee to
>attend.
>
>Learn more.
>http://tinyurl.com/dgp9u8
>
>Comment on topics you'd like to discuss.
>http://neugsummit2009.pbwiki.com/
>
>Space is limited, so RSVP early.
>http://neugsummit.eventbrite.com/
>_____________________________________________________________________
>
>2] - Geek Heaven: 33rd Annual Trenton Computer Festival
>........................
>
>The Amateur Computer Group of New Jersey (ACGNJ), the oldest registered
>computer club in the world, invites user group members to the 33rd
>annual Trenton Computer Festival (TCF), the oldest computer festival in
>the world, on April 24-26 at The College of New Jersey in Ewing, New
>Jersey. Brought to you by computer volunteers for computer enthusiasts,
>this is a can't miss event.
>
>Be there.
>http://www.tcf-nj.org/
>
>(Thanks to Apple User Group Advisory Board member and MUG ONE President
>Elsa Travisano for this tip.)
>_____________________________________________________________________
>
>3] - Bob "Dr. Mac" LeVitus: 2009 Mid-Atlantic MUG Tour
>........................
>
>Bob ?Dr. Mac? LeVitus has announced the dates for his eighth 2009 Mid-
>Atlantic MUG Tour, with visits to four different Mac User Groups.
>
>Bob's current schedule includes:
>
>	? Main Line Macintosh Users Group - May 9 (morning)
>	? MacOutfitters - May 9 (afternoon, with cookout)
>	? Princeton Macintosh Users Group - May 11: Dr. Mac Dinner
>	? Princeton Macintosh Users Group - May 12: General Meeting
>	? Hershey Apple Core - May 13
>	? Washington Apple PI - May 16
>
>Bob is the author of more than 50 Mac books, the most recent of which
>include Mac OS X Leopard For Dummies and Office 2008 for Mac For
>Dummies, and co-author of iPhone for Dummies. Bob is a frequent and
>favorite speaker at Mac User Groups, and columnist for The Houston
>Chronicle and The Mac Observer.
>
>Be sure to get together with one or more of these great groups.
>
>http://www.mlmug.org/
>http://www.pmug-nj.org/
>http://www.hersheyapplecore.com
>http://www.wap.org/
>
>(Thanks to Apple User Group Regional Liaison Maria Arguello for this
>tip.)
>_____________________________________________________________________
>
>4] - MacGroup TV: Special Guest Scott Kelby
>........................
>
>MacGroup of Detroit is presenting the newest edition of MacGroup TV,
>very special guest Scott Kelby doing his latest Portrait Retouching
>Techniques in Photoshop CS4. You can watch this meeting on your
>computer, on your iPod, on your iPhone or your Apple TV using the link
>below or by searching iTunes for MacGroupTV.
>
>Does your group tape and broadcast meetings?
>http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=299402089
>
>Visit MacGroup Detroit.
>http://www.macgroup.org
>
>(Thanks to MacGroup President Terry White for this tip.)
>_____________________________________________________________________
>
>5] - Celebrating: Mac Day at SMU in 2009
>........................
>
>Southern Methodist University's Macintosh User Group's looks to increase
>awareness of what students, professors, and staff can do with technology
>to achieve more both inside and outside of the classroom. Their "Mac
>Day" certainly supported that goal. From demos to seminars and
>late-night give-aways, this was a great get together. Does your
>university feature a Mac event?
>
>Check it out.
>http://smu.edu/smmug/events.htm
>_____________________________________________________________________
>
>6] - Milestones
>........................
>
>A search of Apple's User Group Locator shows that there are more than 47
>groups with an April start date. Groups from 1978 to those recognized
>this month show the vitality of our community. Congrats to the officers,
>members and activities that contribute to user group longevity and
>success.
>
>1978  Macintosh Southern Tier Apple Club
>http://www.macstac.org/
>(Congratulations to President Ben Margolius, his wife Sue and the
>officers and members of Southern Tier.)
>
>1979  Southern NH Apple Core
>http://homepage.mac.com/applepower/
>
>1981  The Orange Apple Computer Club
>http://www.oacc.org
>(Greetings to President Robert Ameeti and group.)
>
>1982  Hamilton Apple Macintosh Users Group
>http://www.hamiltonmacintosh.com
>
>1983  Cumberland Valley Apple User Group
>http://www.cvaug.org
>
>1984  SunMacs
>http://sunmacs.org
>
>1984  Fresno Macintosh Users Group
>http://www.fresnomug.com
>
>1984  Tidewater Area Macintosh Users Group
>http://homepage.mac.com/tidewatermug/
>
>1985  Mac-In-Awe MUG
>http://www.miamug.com
>
>1997  The Macintosh Guild
>http://macguild.org/
>
>2002 Tuscarawas County Mac Users Group (TCMUG)
>http://www.tcmug.org
>(Thanks to Ambassador Kevin Warrene for this tip.)
>
>2003 Indianapolis Final Cut Pro User Group
>http://www.indy-fcpug.org
>(Thanks to President Rob Chinn for this tip.)
>
>2006 Apple User Group Friuli Venezia Giulia
>http://www.augfvg.it
>(Congratulations to Ambassador Marco Pini and members of augFVG.)
>
>_____________________________________________________________________
>
>SPECIAL OFFERS - Apple User Group Bulletin - April 23, 2009
>_____________________________________________________________________
>
>These User Group discounts are brought to you by the Apple User Group
>Advisory Board (special thanks to board member Tom Piper).
>
>These offers may be distributed in your print newsletter, sent to your
>member mailing list, posted to a password-protected section of your
>group website and/or posted to a bulletin board that is restricted to
>your members. If your newsletter or website is not password protected,
>just omit the passwords and list this public URL:
>
>http://homepage.mac.com/ugab/offers.html
>
>Not a member? Join an Apple user group today to take advantage of these
>special offers.
>_____________________________________________________________________
>
>1] - Learn to Build iPhone Apps in Two Says: O'Reilly 30 Percent 
>Discount
>.........................
>
>Hey, it's not rocket science. You really can learn to develop mobile
>applications for Apple's iPhone and iPod touch in just two days. All you
>need to do is to attend O'Reilly's hands-on workshop, "Build, Compile
>and Run Your iPhone App in 2 Days."
>
>Instructor Joe Heck, iPhone app developer from Walt Disney Interactive
>Media Group, will quickly get you up to speed on the basics. During the
>workshop, you'll create two real iPhone apps, compile them and install
>them on a device.
>
>Dates and locations:
>
>* May 16 & 17 in San Francisco
>* June 27 & 28 in Chicago
>* August 8 & 9 in Los Angeles
>* September 19 & 20 in Seattle
>
>User Group members receive a 30 percent discount with code DSUG when
>registering online. Sign up today! (Seating is limited and these
>workshops will fill up quickly.)
>
>Join the iPhone App community.
>http://training.oreilly.com/introiphoneapp/
>
>This worldwide offer is valid until September 18, 2009.
>_____________________________________________________________________
>
>2] - TimeTable: 20 Percent Off
>........................
>
>TimeTable reads and filters iCal calendar data and calculates the hours
>spent in the events. It is the easy way to list the amount of hours that
>you have scheduled in iCal. TimeTable makes it simple to track and bill
>for your time without keeping a second record outside of your calendar.
>You even can find trends and analyze your calendars.
>
>Using this special offer, Apple user group members get a 20 percent
>discount.
>
>Download a 14 day trial version.
>http://www.stevenriggs.com
>
>Purchase.
>http://www.stevenriggs.com/Site/MUGDeal_7-31-09.html
>
>This worldwide offer is valid until July 31, 2009.
>_____________________________________________________________________
>
>3] - designProVideo.com: 40 Percent Discount
>........................
>
>designProVideo.com (the sister site of macProVideo.com) produces
>pro-level tutorial videos for Adobe CS4 and Final Cut Studio. Their
>trainers are Apple courseware authors and respected industry
>professionals. Watch all tutorials online or download them to your
>computer. There's no need to wait for discs to be sent in the mail.
>Start learning now!
>
>Apple user group members can save 40 percent off the regular Online
>Tutorial Library subscription price of $25. For just $15 a month, you
>can access the entire designProVideo.com Online Tutorial Library. As
>a subscriber, you'll also receive an additional 25 percent discount on
>all HD Tutorial downloads!
>
>Subscribe today and save!
>https://www.designprovideo.com/subscribe/info/usergroup40
>
>This worldwide offer is valid until July 31, 2009.
>____________________________________________________________________
>
>4] - That's Easy: Apple User Group Market & Apple User Group Offers
>.........................
>
>Looking for information on a past offer? Tom Piper of the Apple User
>Group Advisory Board publishes a single page with all current offers,
>expiration dates and codes. Watch for intermittent special offers.
>
>Password until May 15, 2009: offers
>
>http://homepage.mac.com/ugab/offers/vendorcodes.htm
>.........................
>
>Be sure to subscribe to the Apple User Group Market Report podcast. The
>next edition is an interview with Martin Sitter of macProVideo about
>their video training tutorials and new iPhone app. The AUG Market Report
>and Resource blog are great sources for information about Apple user
>groups, vendor discounts, special events, interesting reviews,
>stimulating training and more:
>
>Apple User Group Market Report podcast:
>http://homepage.mac.com/ugab/resources.html
>
>For public information about vendor offers and more visit:
>http://homepage.mac.com/ugab/offers.html

-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Travel Research/Photography, 
http://www.JourneyZing.com; Lawyer, 
Discrimination/Civil Rights, Des Moines, Iowa 
http://www.herringlaw.com; personal blog, 
http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/

From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Sat Apr 25 08:23:30 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 08:23:30 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Tuesday's Meeting:  Freebies to those who come!
Message-ID: <p06240827c618becca1bf@[10.0.1.197]>

I have a Raffle copy of TimeTable: 
http://www.stevenriggs.com/Site/TimeTable.html  [review appreciated, 
but it'd be free to whomever does it]

And the other gift items to disburse, as we have before.

If someone won't be at the meeting but does want to be in the raffle 
for TimeTable, let me know.
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Travel Research/Photography, 
http://www.JourneyZing.com; Lawyer, Discrimination/Civil Rights, Des 
Moines, Iowa http://www.herringlaw.com; personal blog, 
http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/

From alan.maupin at gmail.com  Sun Apr 26 14:47:43 2009
From: alan.maupin at gmail.com (Alan Maupin)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:47:43 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] FINAL CUT PRO 6 - Level 101 - April 27-30 - Johnston, IA
Message-ID: <4052B056-B20A-4F4A-A976-D0F38505F33E@gmail.com>

I just found this training and signed up for it.  The class size is  
currently 10 and they have their own equipment and software for  
student to use.  For a quick signup call Shirley on her cell (818)  
970-7708.

http://weynand.com/schedule/

----------------------------------------------------
The class location and schedule:

Heartland Area Education Agency 11
6500 Corporate Drive
Johnston IA 50131

Monday - 9am-5pm
Tuesday - 9am-5pm
Wednesday - 9am-5pm
Thursday - 9am-5pm

----------------------------------------------------
Syllabus:

Final Cut Po 6 - Level 101 - Four Day Class
Course Description:

This four-day introductory program is designed for those who want to  
learn the feature set of Final Cut Pro 6 and how to use it in an  
editing environment. Topics include basic setup, adjusting and  
customizing preferences and settings, capturing video and audio,  
project management, marking and editing, drag and drop editing,  
timeline editing, adjusting and trimming edit points, slip and slide  
editing sub clips, story board editing, applying transitions, mixing  
audio tracks, multicam editing, adding titles and graphics and  
finishing and outputting, and all the new features of FCP6.

The course comes complete with the Apple Pro Training Series, Final  
Cut Pro 6 including a DVD of all the video material used in the  
course. This course is perfect for either Final Cut Express or Final  
Cut Pro users. Using footage from the television series, ?Monk,? and a  
new Sea World documentary this course will give you the confidence you  
need to become an Apple Certified user.

The Apple Certified User Test Level 101 is available right after the  
course for those students who would like to participant.
Learning Objectives:

What You Will Learn:

     * Working with the Browser and Bins
     * Marking clips and using Insert and Overwrite edits
     * Drag-and-drop editing
     * Marking and deleting clips in the Timeline
     * Trimming Edit points
     * Using Ripple, Roll and Extend edits
     * Using the Slip and Slide tools
     * Motion Filters, Transitions
     * Multicam Editing
     * Audio editing and audio creation
     * Finishing and final output


From Itranslate4you at mchsi.com  Mon Apr 27 06:54:26 2009
From: Itranslate4you at mchsi.com (Itranslate4you at mchsi.com)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:54:26 +0000
Subject: [DM-MUG] Tuesday's Meeting:  Freebies to those who come!
In-Reply-To: <p06240827c618becca1bf@[10.0.1.197]>
Message-ID: <042720091154.18368.49F59CF20008FE66000047C0223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF9A0197CB0A9B0E049C020E9D9BB7@mchsi.com>


 
Hi: Would you please indicate the place and time of the incoming meeting? I would like to attend
Thank you?
Juan Trujillo -------------- Original message from "Victoria L. Herring" <VLH at HerringLaw.com>: --------------


> I have a Raffle copy of TimeTable: 
> http://www.stevenriggs.com/Site/TimeTable.html  [review appreciated, 
> but it'd be free to whomever does it]
> 
> And the other gift items to disburse, as we have before.
> 
> If someone won't be at the meeting but does want to be in the raffle 
> for TimeTable, let me know.
> -- 
> Victoria L. Herring, Travel Research/Photography, 
> http://www.JourneyZing.com; Lawyer, Discrimination/Civil Rights, Des 
> Moines, Iowa http://www.herringlaw.com; personal blog, 
> http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/
> _______________________________________________
> DMMUG mailing list
> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
> DMMUG at dmmug.org
> Use this page to modify subscription options:
> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug
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From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Mon Apr 27 07:30:27 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:30:27 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Tuesday's Meeting:  Freebies to those who come!
In-Reply-To: <042720091154.18368.49F59CF20008FE66000047C0223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF
	9A0197CB0A9B0E049C020E9D9BB7@mchsi.com>
References: <042720091154.18368.49F59CF20008FE66000047C0223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF
	9A0197CB0A9B0E049C020E9D9BB7@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <p0624080cc61b55be7f3a@[10.0.1.197]>

>
>Hi: Would you please indicate the place and time of the incoming 
>meeting? I would like to attend

All DMMUG info is at the website:  http://www.dmmug.org/

Our meetings are held at:
Impromptu Studio
300 Southwest Fifth Street
Suite 220
Des Moines, Iowa 50309
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Des Moines, Iowa. Blogs: 
http://blog.JourneyZing.com  [photography]; 
http://www.herringlaw.com  [civilrights/discrimination]; 
http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/  [personal].
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From cwsmith7 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 27 07:21:01 2009
From: cwsmith7 at gmail.com (CW Smith)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:21:01 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Tuesday's Meeting:  Freebies to those who come!
In-Reply-To: <042720091154.18368.49F59CF20008FE66000047C0223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF9A0197CB0A9B0E049C020E9D9BB7@mchsi.com>
References: <042720091154.18368.49F59CF20008FE66000047C0223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF9A0197CB0A9B0E049C020E9D9BB7@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <22933E47-7A53-4084-B544-AB567E7F2836@gmail.com>

Meeting is at 7pm at the Impromptu Studio in downtown Des Moines.

Impromptu Studio is located at 300 SW 9th. Here's a snapshot of a  
Google map:

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Peace,
CW

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CW Smith
Windows & Macintosh service and repair
Apple Certified Macintosh Technician

Phone: (515) 577-1716
cwsmith7 at gmail.com

"Guitar, bass, percussion, Macintosh"

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On Apr 27, 2009, at 6:54 AM, Itranslate4you at mchsi.com wrote:

> Hi: Would you please indicate the place and time of the incoming  
> meeting? I would like to attend
> Thank you
> Juan Trujillo
> -------------- Original message from "Victoria L. Herring" <VLH at HerringLaw.com 
> >: --------------
>
>
> > I have a Raffle copy of TimeTable:
> > http://www.stevenriggs.com/Site/TimeTable.html [review appreciated,
> > but it'd be free to whomever does it]
> >
> > And the other gift items to disburse, as we have before.
> >
> > If someone won't be at the meeting but does want to be in the raffle
> > for TimeTable, let me know.
> > --
> > Victoria L. Herring, Travel Research/Photography,
> > http://www.JourneyZing.com; Lawyer, Discrimination/Civil Rights, Des
> > Moines, Iowa http://www.herringlaw.com; personal blog,
> > http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/
> > _______________________________________________
> > DMMUG mailing list
> > Use this Address to send mail to the list:
> > DMMUG at dmmug.org
> > Use this page to modify subscription options:
> > http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug
> _______________________________________________
> DMMUG mailing list
> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
> DMMUG at dmmug.org
> Use this page to modify subscription options:
> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug


From VLH at HerringLaw.com  Wed Apr 29 09:24:35 2009
From: VLH at HerringLaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:24:35 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] Conversion of .eml emails into something [email] I can read
Message-ID: <p06240801c61e109597a5@[10.0.1.197]>

other than text = I can see in rtf or text edit, but want them in an 
email program = i have used Thunderbird, two email conversion 
programs without success and am searching on web but without finding 
an answer...I'd like to be able to 'see' them as emails in Mail 
orEudora and according some some readings Mail should be able to 
import once converted but no dice....thoughts and suggestions?

preferably free and easy to use
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Des Moines, Iowa. Blogs: 
http://blog.JourneyZing.com  [photography]; 
http://www.herringlaw.com  [civilrights/discrimination]; 
http://victorialherring.typepad.com/serendipity/  [personal].

From thorgrim at imaginarytower.org  Thu Apr 30 10:09:22 2009
From: thorgrim at imaginarytower.org (David McLaughlin)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:09:22 -0500
Subject: [DM-MUG] 2009 Shareware List is Up
Message-ID: <0AF329C3-4407-4EC9-82D6-495AEF772E6C@imaginarytower.org>

http://www.dmmug.org/presentations/2009_shareware/2009_shareware.html

David D. McLaughlin
webmaster at dmmug.org

