[DM-MUG] Re: Installing Leopard
Vincent Valdez
vvaldez753 at mchsi.com
Mon Feb 25 20:16:00 CST 2008
Victoria,
My machine is a Imac 20" running Version 10.4.11. Elements is the
brand of the external hard drive made by Western Digital. I loaded
all my video files, pictures and music to this ex hard drive from my
old PC. How about this? Can I upload all the files from the ex hard
drive to my Mac, then reformat the Elements drive , clone, then load
the video, pic and music files back to the ex hd?? Or is this
getting too ridiculous? Can the clone and the PC derived files co-
exist on the ex hd?
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> 1. MEETING TUESDAY NIGHT (Victoria L. Herring)
> 2. MAC address (Ray Bowler)
> 3. Re: MAC address (Darcy Baston)
> 4. Re: MAC address (Ray Bowler)
> 5. Re: MAC address (Matthew Nuzum)
> 6. Re: MAC address (Brandon Carlson)
> 7. Re:Installing Leopard (Vincent Valdez)
> 8. Re:Installing Leopard (Victoria L. Herring)
> 9. Re: Re:Installing Leopard (Darcy Baston)
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> From: "Victoria L. Herring" <vlh at herringlaw.com>
> Date: February 25, 2008 11:51:07 AM CST
> To: MUG Des Moines <dmmug at dmmug.org>
> Subject: [DM-MUG] MEETING TUESDAY NIGHT
> Reply-To: Des Moines Mac Users Group <dmmug at dmmug.org>
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> The meeting next Tuesday [FEby. 26th, 7p] will be an open forum to
> answer people's questions and provide enlightenment and
> encouragement. I'd like to talk about Leopard and Time Machine.
> Others no doubt will have security ideas to share, backing up
> strategies, networking ideas.
>
> **** My son's laptop was stolen at college and, although the horse
> is out of the barn, I'd like to talk about the various solutions to
> the issue [I've heard of LoJack, but there are no doubt others]
>
> We do have to have an election of officers and so far- STILL - no
> NEW persons have stepped forward to volunteer to serve. Officers
> are: President, Vice President [programs], Secretary [we do need
> someone to report on meetings each month], Treasurer [Ray Bowler
> said he'd do this and keep his job at present monitoring the
> listserve, which gets a fair amount of spam that he catches for us]
> and 'sergeant at arms and webmaster extraordinaire' [Dave
> McLaughlin who is doing great...].
>
> If anyone wants to serve or nominate someone else, please let me
> know asap so the slate can be sent out ahead of time.
>
> Someone should volunteer to bring pop and cookies so we don't have
> to impose on Haddock so much.
> --
> Victoria L. Herring, Attorney in Des Moines, Iowa - Civil rights,
> Discrimination & Employment Law, http://www.herringlaw.com. Ph.
> 515/255-4475; iChat AV: victoriaherring at mac.com; Skype: vlherring.
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> From: Ray Bowler <rbowler at mchsi.com>
> Date: February 25, 2008 3:44:46 PM CST
> To: DMMUG <dmmug at dmmug.org>
> Subject: [DM-MUG] MAC address
> Reply-To: Des Moines Mac Users Group <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>
>
> On another list someone mentioned using the Mac Address for access
> to their wireless router. You can set this in Access Control in the
> Airport utility to certain Mac Addresses. My question is: if I
> enter the Mac Address of our two machines would these be the only
> computers which could access the Airport? If so would a password
> for the network be needed?
> --
> Ray Bowler
>
> rbowler.home.mchsi.com
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> From: Darcy Baston <darcybaston at mac.com>
> Date: February 25, 2008 3:53:08 PM CST
> To: Des Moines Mac Users Group <dmmug at dmmug.org>
> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] MAC address
> Reply-To: Des Moines Mac Users Group <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>
>
> If MAC address filtering is turned on, then only computers/devices
> who have had their MAC address pre-added can access the router.
>
> Passwords for accessing the network come from turning on encryption
> using WEP/WPA/WPA2 etc. You can use that and MAC address filtering,
> or one or the other. It's up to you. How secure do you want to be?
> It's best to use both.
>
> Darcy
>
> On Feb 25, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Ray Bowler wrote:
>
>> On another list someone mentioned using the Mac Address for access
>> to their wireless router. You can set this in Access Control in
>> the Airport utility to certain Mac Addresses. My question is: if I
>> enter the Mac Address of our two machines would these be the only
>> computers which could access the Airport? If so would a password
>> for the network be needed?
>> --
>> Ray Bowler
>>
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> From: Ray Bowler <rbowler at mchsi.com>
> Date: February 25, 2008 4:23:19 PM CST
> To: Des Moines Mac Users Group <dmmug at dmmug.org>
> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] MAC address
> Reply-To: Des Moines Mac Users Group <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>
>
> Since my Airport can only do WEP I should probably add Mac Address.
> Why isn't Mac Address enough?
>
>
> At 3:53 PM -0600 2/25/08, Darcy Baston wrote:
>> If MAC address filtering is turned on, then only computers/devices
>> who have had their MAC address pre-added can access the router.
>>
>> Passwords for accessing the network come from turning on
>> encryption using WEP/WPA/WPA2 etc. You can use that and MAC
>> address filtering, or one or the other. It's up to you. How secure
>> do you want to be? It's best to use both.
>>
>> Darcy
>>
>> On Feb 25, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Ray Bowler wrote:
>>
>>> On another list someone mentioned using the Mac Address for
>>> access to their wireless router. You can set this in Access
>>> Control in the Airport utility to certain Mac Addresses. My
>>> question is: if I enter the Mac Address of our two machines would
>>> these be the only computers which could access the Airport? If so
>>> would a password for the network be needed?
>>> --
>>> Ray Bowler
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> From: "Matthew Nuzum" <newz at bearfruit.org>
> Date: February 25, 2008 4:41:52 PM CST
> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] MAC address
> Reply-To: Des Moines Mac Users Group <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Ray Bowler <rbowler at mchsi.com> wrote:
>> On another list someone mentioned using the Mac Address for access to
>> their wireless router. You can set this in Access Control in the
>> Airport utility to certain Mac Addresses. My question is: if I enter
>> the Mac Address of our two machines would these be the only
>> computers
>> which could access the Airport? If so would a password for the
>> network be needed?
>
> Some (I think many or even most) computers can change their MAC
> address (often written in all caps since its an abbreviation and to
> avoid confusion with Mac computers). If you want extra security it's a
> good feature to enable along with your password. If you just want a
> little security then you can use it instead of passwords. I personally
> value my network security too much to rely on this technique alone.
>
> Some routers are configurable and allow you to assign specific IP
> addresses to different MAC addresses. In the past I've done this and
> put unknown computers into different network subnets. I know of one
> person who took this a step further and sent these unknown computers
> through a proxy that turned all of the images upside down.
> http://ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html
>
>
> --
> Matthew Nuzum
> newz2000 on freenode
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> From: "Brandon Carlson" <bcarlso at gmail.com>
> Date: February 25, 2008 5:45:32 PM CST
> To: "Des Moines Mac Users Group" <dmmug at dmmug.org>
> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] MAC address
> Reply-To: Des Moines Mac Users Group <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>
>
> MAC address filtering will prevent unauthorized users to connect to
> your network, but doesn't do anything for the privacy of the data
> being sent around.
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Ray Bowler <rbowler at mchsi.com> wrote:
>> Since my Airport can only do WEP I should probably add Mac Address.
>> Why isn't Mac Address enough?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 3:53 PM -0600 2/25/08, Darcy Baston wrote:
>>> If MAC address filtering is turned on, then only computers/devices
>>> who have had their MAC address pre-added can access the router.
>>>
>>> Passwords for accessing the network come from turning on encryption
>>> using WEP/WPA/WPA2 etc. You can use that and MAC address filtering,
>>> or one or the other. It's up to you. How secure do you want to be?
>>> It's best to use both.
>>>
>>> Darcy
>>>
>>> On Feb 25, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Ray Bowler wrote:
>>>
>>>> On another list someone mentioned using the Mac Address for access
>>>> to their wireless router. You can set this in Access Control in the
>>>> Airport utility to certain Mac Addresses. My question is: if I
>>>> enter the Mac Address of our two machines would these be the only
>>>> computers which could access the Airport? If so would a password
>>>> for the network be needed?
>>>> --
>>>> Ray Bowler
>>>>
>>>> rbowler.home.mchsi.com
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> From: Vincent Valdez <vvaldez753 at mchsi.com>
> Date: February 25, 2008 6:24:22 PM CST
> To: dmmug at dmmug.org
> Subject: [DM-MUG] Re:Installing Leopard
> Reply-To: Des Moines Mac Users Group <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>
>
> Thank you all for your valuable input. What a valuable resource you
> are. I am using a Elements external hard drive (Western Digital). I
> tried SuperDuper and it gave me a message saying it was not
> formatted for Macintosh and that I should erase the hard
> drive!!!!!!. I guess I need to buy another ext hard drive since I
> have lots of video files. Any other way I can get around this?
> Vince (new intimidated Mac convert)
>
> From: "Victoria L. Herring" <vlh at herringlaw.com>
> Date: February 25, 2008 7:00:33 PM CST
> To: Des Moines Mac Users Group <dmmug at dmmug.org>
> Subject: [DM-MUG] Re:Installing Leopard
> Reply-To: Des Moines Mac Users Group <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>
>
>> Thank you all for your valuable input. What a valuable resource
>> you are. I am using a Elements external hard drive (Western
>> Digital). I tried SuperDuper and it gave me a message saying it
>> was not formatted for Macintosh and that I should erase the hard
>> drive!!!!!!. I guess I need to buy another ext hard drive since I
>> have lots of video files. Any other way I can get around this?
>> Vince (new intimidated Mac convert)
>
> the harddrive is formatted for PC not Mac....I don't know what an
> Elements external HD is but if you mean you saved images to the
> drive and don't want to lose them, yes, get another drive [they're
> relatively inexpensive these days = and CompUSA is having the
> closing down sale] and start with that...what is your basic
> setup?? What OS, Machine etc.
>
> if you have Leopard you will want to use TimeMachine and you'll
> need a drive for that [separate from SuperDuper]
> --
> Victoria L. Herring, Attorney in Des Moines, Iowa - Civil rights,
> Discrimination & Employment Law, http://www.herringlaw.com. Ph.
> 515/255-4475; iChat AV: victoriaherring at mac.com; Skype: vlherring.
>
> From: Darcy Baston <darcybaston at mac.com>
> Date: February 25, 2008 7:14:48 PM CST
> To: Des Moines Mac Users Group <dmmug at dmmug.org>
> Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Re:Installing Leopard
> Reply-To: Des Moines Mac Users Group <dmmug at dmmug.org>
>
>
> So you want to use a drive that you're already using as the clone
> of another drive? Yeah, you'll have to either copy the data onto
> the internal hard drive of your Mac (of there's room), and then do
> the cloning, or like Victoria said, get a second external drive.
>
> But then you'd have 3 drives. The first two can be paired so your
> Mac can be backed up, but if the second one is to become and
> archive destination for pics/movies, you'll need a 4th hard drive
> to be the clone of that one so that you have 2 x everything.
>
> Darcy
>
> On Feb 25, 2008, at 6:24 PM, Vincent Valdez wrote:
>
>> Thank you all for your valuable input. What a valuable resource
>> you are. I am using a Elements external hard drive (Western
>> Digital). I tried SuperDuper and it gave me a message saying it
>> was not formatted for Macintosh and that I should erase the hard
>> drive!!!!!!. I guess I need to buy another ext hard drive since I
>> have lots of video files. Any other way I can get around this?
>> Vince (new intimidated Mac convert)
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