[DM-MUG] Leopard runs hotter?

Sat Nov 3 13:45:53 CDT 2007

Trash your caches as well. Once upon a time I was having temps around 160,
even with the fans full blast, even through reboots. I deleted all the
caches and it returned to normal. Go figure. Still, set to 4000 rpm, my
temps have been 111-120 with leopard, and Tiger usually would be 120-130.
The computer is a MBP 17/2.33

//On 11/3/07 12:03 PM, "Roses Derise" <homeonthefarm at iowatelecom.net> wrote:

> After getting our feedback, I re-plugged in the external hard drive and left
> it on all night so I could test it again. When I opened it up in this
> morning about 8:30, the computer was cool to touch but the fan started
> running immediately, a sound which is to me like fingernails on chalkboards,
> and which I had solved on Tiger with the aid of an air desk and smc fan
> control. The heat would still get bad and the fan would come on when the
> computer heated up after a long day of working and/or gaming or loading up a
> big program or had a lot of programs open at the same time. Other than those
> times the heat was acceptable and the fan was blessedly silent.
> 
> This morning, I let it run for a while to see if it was just a
> waking/warming up thing but the fan didn't shut off so about a half-hour
> later I unplugged the external hard drive to shut off time machine. Even so,
> the fan has continued to run continuously for the last nearly three hours,
> which says that the fan/heat is not from Time Machine, so I was wrong on
> that.  I have no open programs except Microsoft Word and Entourage  The temp
> is at 145 degrees and the temp record since I got Leopard is overall higher
> so the only thing I can conclude is that Leopard runs hotter.
> 
> I then went to Apple on-line support for Leopard and found others were
> complaining of the same issue--heat and noise. If any of you have any fixes
> for this, I (and presumably those at the apple support place (key words
> leopard runs hot) would really appreciate it. Otherwise, I plan to uninstall
> it and go back to Tiger.
> 
> On 11/2/07 2:57 PM, "Roses Derise" <homeonthefarm at iowatelecom.net> wrote:
> 
>> I did let it run, as you said it took several hours...my complaint was from
>> what happened afterwards.  Re the radar, that's what got my attention, that
>> I was suddenly noticing after a relatively long period of not noticing, and
>> in fact not even thinking about it, like finding myself having to stop
>> earlier in the day because of the heat (those of you who with desk models
>> don't have to have your hands directly on a hot metal surface so might not
>> notice any extra heat)  even after disconnecting the back up disk.
>> 
>> (And I do have smc fan control but had to set it to a different setting to
>> keep it from coming on so often.)
>> 
>> Let's hope you are right, that it is somehow in my "radar" or something this
>> computer illiterate is doing wrong that can be fixed.
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/2/07 11:30 AM, "Bryan Baker" <ka_klick at mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, if you only let it run for ~10 min it probably didn't have time
>>> to finish it's first full backup. The problem is, that it needs a
>>> place to start, so it needs a FULL backup of the system - that's
>>> everything. I'd be surprised if it took less than 10. Once this is
>>> done once, most of what it does is make copies of anything that
>>> changed since the last one, so those should be almost unnoticeable.
>>> That's the theory. This is being typed by someone who has a shrink-
>>> wrapped copy of Leopard on his desk, not someone who's already
>>> running it, but I remember having to walk away from in-progress Tiger
>>> first boots because the dang indexing was taking hours.
>>> 
>>> It's also possible that your "radar" is up, and that while it is
>>> currently "hotter" over time the power consumption will decrease as
>>> the system finishes all the stuff it's doing behind the scenes in the
>>> background.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 2, 2007, at 11:04 AM, Roses Derise wrote:
>>>> Also 109.99 at macmall with rebate for shipping.
>>>> 
>>>> So far, I feel regret that I bought Leopard. A lot of little things
>>>> don't
>>>> seem to work well--such as some (but not all) the little yellow memory
>>>> strips (such as the ones that pop up, say, account numbers), and my
>>>> printer
>>>> drive not loading properly on start-up. As some of you have said, I
>>>> don't
>>>> like the folders and even though I am not a fan of dark colors, I
>>>> do seem to
>>>> have adapted to the black dock and I do feel some admiration for
>>>> the sleek
>>>> designing. I like the stationary in Mail and I love the Spaces
>>>> feature and
>>>> other things that someone here wrote was just cosmetic stuff, which
>>>> I agree.
>>>> 
>>>> My biggest complaint, and for me its a big deal, is that I suspect
>>>> that on
>>>> my Macbook Pro where my hands on directly on the machine, Leopard runs
>>>> hotter than Tiger.
>>>> 
>>>> I bought Leopard primarily because of Time Machine. As a writer,
>>>> even ten
>>>> minutes of lost work can be major, like an artist losing carefully
>>>> laid down
>>>> brush strokes. But within a few minutes of using it, I unplugged it,
>>>> realizing that that I'd have been smarter to take the time to use a
>>>> $20
>>>> flash drive every so often because, with Time Machine running, the
>>>> computer
>>>> heats up a lot more, driving me nuts when I am trying to focus on
>>>> creative
>>>> work with that irritating noise of the fan running and from the
>>>> heat on my
>>>> palms.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm sure Apple will come along with fixes for the bugs and that
>>>> over time
>>>> I'll adapt to the changes, but as someone who is not computer savvy
>>>> and can
>>>> only review from a superficial level, at this point, I can't say
>>>> getting
>>>> Leopard was worth the price.
>>>> 
>>>> Roses
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/2/07 10:19 AM, "Russ & Marilyn Carlson" <marruss at crosspaths.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I don't know if anyone is interested given the recent reports but
>>>>> Leopard is on sale at CompUSA for the next two days Friday and
>>>>> Saturday.  It is selling for $109.99 a $20.00 reduction.  Des Moines
>>>>> Register Nov. 2  page 3A.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Russ
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