[DM-MUG] Leopard runs hotter?

Sat Nov 3 12:03:38 CDT 2007

After getting our feedback, I re-plugged in the external hard drive and left
it on all night so I could test it again. When I opened it up in this
morning about 8:30, the computer was cool to touch but the fan started
running immediately, a sound which is to me like fingernails on chalkboards,
and which I had solved on Tiger with the aid of an air desk and smc fan
control. The heat would still get bad and the fan would come on when the
computer heated up after a long day of working and/or gaming or loading up a
big program or had a lot of programs open at the same time. Other than those
times the heat was acceptable and the fan was blessedly silent.

This morning, I let it run for a while to see if it was just a
waking/warming up thing but the fan didn't shut off so about a half-hour
later I unplugged the external hard drive to shut off time machine. Even so,
the fan has continued to run continuously for the last nearly three hours,
which says that the fan/heat is not from Time Machine, so I was wrong on
that.  I have no open programs except Microsoft Word and Entourage  The temp
is at 145 degrees and the temp record since I got Leopard is overall higher
so the only thing I can conclude is that Leopard runs hotter.

I then went to Apple on-line support for Leopard and found others were
complaining of the same issue--heat and noise. If any of you have any fixes
for this, I (and presumably those at the apple support place (key words
leopard runs hot) would really appreciate it. Otherwise, I plan to uninstall
it and go back to Tiger.

On 11/2/07 2:57 PM, "Roses Derise" <homeonthefarm at iowatelecom.net> wrote:

> I did let it run, as you said it took several hours...my complaint was from
> what happened afterwards.  Re the radar, that's what got my attention, that
> I was suddenly noticing after a relatively long period of not noticing, and
> in fact not even thinking about it, like finding myself having to stop
> earlier in the day because of the heat (those of you who with desk models
> don't have to have your hands directly on a hot metal surface so might not
> notice any extra heat)  even after disconnecting the back up disk.
> 
> (And I do have smc fan control but had to set it to a different setting to
> keep it from coming on so often.)
> 
> Let's hope you are right, that it is somehow in my "radar" or something this
> computer illiterate is doing wrong that can be fixed.
> 
> 
> On 11/2/07 11:30 AM, "Bryan Baker" <ka_klick at mac.com> wrote:
> 
>> Well, if you only let it run for ~10 min it probably didn't have time
>> to finish it's first full backup. The problem is, that it needs a
>> place to start, so it needs a FULL backup of the system - that's
>> everything. I'd be surprised if it took less than 10. Once this is
>> done once, most of what it does is make copies of anything that
>> changed since the last one, so those should be almost unnoticeable.
>> That's the theory. This is being typed by someone who has a shrink-
>> wrapped copy of Leopard on his desk, not someone who's already
>> running it, but I remember having to walk away from in-progress Tiger
>> first boots because the dang indexing was taking hours.
>> 
>> It's also possible that your "radar" is up, and that while it is
>> currently "hotter" over time the power consumption will decrease as
>> the system finishes all the stuff it's doing behind the scenes in the
>> background.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 2, 2007, at 11:04 AM, Roses Derise wrote:
>>> Also 109.99 at macmall with rebate for shipping.
>>> 
>>> So far, I feel regret that I bought Leopard. A lot of little things
>>> don't
>>> seem to work well--such as some (but not all) the little yellow memory
>>> strips (such as the ones that pop up, say, account numbers), and my
>>> printer
>>> drive not loading properly on start-up. As some of you have said, I
>>> don't
>>> like the folders and even though I am not a fan of dark colors, I
>>> do seem to
>>> have adapted to the black dock and I do feel some admiration for
>>> the sleek
>>> designing. I like the stationary in Mail and I love the Spaces
>>> feature and
>>> other things that someone here wrote was just cosmetic stuff, which
>>> I agree.
>>> 
>>> My biggest complaint, and for me its a big deal, is that I suspect
>>> that on
>>> my Macbook Pro where my hands on directly on the machine, Leopard runs
>>> hotter than Tiger.
>>> 
>>> I bought Leopard primarily because of Time Machine. As a writer,
>>> even ten
>>> minutes of lost work can be major, like an artist losing carefully
>>> laid down
>>> brush strokes. But within a few minutes of using it, I unplugged it,
>>> realizing that that I'd have been smarter to take the time to use a
>>> $20
>>> flash drive every so often because, with Time Machine running, the
>>> computer
>>> heats up a lot more, driving me nuts when I am trying to focus on
>>> creative
>>> work with that irritating noise of the fan running and from the
>>> heat on my
>>> palms.
>>> 
>>> I'm sure Apple will come along with fixes for the bugs and that
>>> over time
>>> I'll adapt to the changes, but as someone who is not computer savvy
>>> and can
>>> only review from a superficial level, at this point, I can't say
>>> getting
>>> Leopard was worth the price.
>>> 
>>> Roses
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11/2/07 10:19 AM, "Russ & Marilyn Carlson" <marruss at crosspaths.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I don't know if anyone is interested given the recent reports but
>>>> Leopard is on sale at CompUSA for the next two days Friday and
>>>> Saturday.  It is selling for $109.99 a $20.00 reduction.  Des Moines
>>>> Register Nov. 2  page 3A.
>>>> 
>>>> Russ
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