From rbowler at mchsi.com  Fri Sep  1 08:42:58 2006
From: rbowler at mchsi.com (Ray Bowler)
Date: Fri Sep  1 08:43:02 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] iMovie titles on individual pictures
In-Reply-To: <22611EFE-6845-40F6-9194-70C831281931@mac.com>
References: <p06240602c11cf59811f0@[10.0.1.3]>
	<22611EFE-6845-40F6-9194-70C831281931@mac.com>
Message-ID: <p06240606c11ddea3b097@[10.0.1.3]>

The only problem with the iPhoto movie is that the title of the slide 
is in the upper left hand corner. I would rather have it centered at 
the top or bottom.

At 7:25 PM -0500 8/31/06, Darcy Baston wrote:
>Bryan did a presentation on how to do this differently, and what I 
>think would easier.
>
>He launched iPhoto. What he did next was selected photos in the 
>library, clicked on 'slideshow', picked the settings to show picture 
>titles, duration between transitions etc. Then he went to 
>File->Export and chose a resolution. This created a Quicktime movie.
>
>Then, you can load the movie into iDVD or Toast (to avoid themes), 
>and burn as a DVD.
>
>Quicktime Pro can build slideshows too, but I don't know if it will 
>display file titles inside of frames.
>
>
>Darcy
>
>
>On Aug 31, 2006, at 3:30 PM, Ray Bowler wrote:
>
>As usual when dealing with software I didn't write I am frustrated. 
>I would like to use iMovie HD to create a slide show and burn it to 
>a DVD for use on the TV. Ideal would be if the photo used it's name 
>for a title at the bottom of the image. Otherwise I would like to 
>add a title to each slide. When I type in a title and drag it to a 
>picture in the show it shows up in all the pictures instead of just 
>the one. I keep reading the instructions and they don't work as I 
>interpret the help to tell me to do.
>--
>Ray Bowler
>
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From darcybaston at mac.com  Fri Sep  1 08:46:23 2006
From: darcybaston at mac.com (Darcy Baston)
Date: Fri Sep  1 08:46:26 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] iMovie titles on individual pictures
In-Reply-To: <p06240606c11ddea3b097@[10.0.1.3]>
References: <p06240602c11cf59811f0@[10.0.1.3]>
	<22611EFE-6845-40F6-9194-70C831281931@mac.com>
	<p06240606c11ddea3b097@[10.0.1.3]>
Message-ID: <3380583.1157118383557.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>

That's true.

I never could make iMovie render still photos very well. Images always came out looking heavily pixelated. If there's a trick to retaining image quality, anyone, please come forward and rescue me. :)

Darcy

On Friday, September 01, 2006, at 08:43AM, Ray Bowler <rbowler@mchsi.com> wrote:

>The only problem with the iPhoto movie is that the title of the slide 
>is in the upper left hand corner. I would rather have it centered at 
>the top or bottom.
From rbowler at mchsi.com  Fri Sep  1 09:10:37 2006
From: rbowler at mchsi.com (Ray Bowler)
Date: Fri Sep  1 09:10:43 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] iMovie titles on individual pictures
In-Reply-To: <3380583.1157118383557.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>
References: <p06240602c11cf59811f0@[10.0.1.3]>
	<22611EFE-6845-40F6-9194-70C831281931@mac.com>
	<p06240606c11ddea3b097@[10.0.1.3]>
	<3380583.1157118383557.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>
Message-ID: <p06240608c11defbeb306@[10.0.1.3]>

My frustration with iMovie also.

At 8:46 AM -0500 9/1/06, Darcy Baston wrote:
>That's true.
>
>I never could make iMovie render still photos very well. Images 
>always came out looking heavily pixelated. If there's a trick to 
>retaining image quality, anyone, please come forward and rescue me. 
>:)
>
>Darcy
>
>On Friday, September 01, 2006, at 08:43AM, Ray Bowler 
><rbowler@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
>>The only problem with the iPhoto movie is that the title of the slide
>>is in the upper left hand corner. I would rather have it centered at
>>the top or bottom.
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From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Fri Sep  1 09:25:30 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Fri Sep  1 09:25:45 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] iMovie titles on individual pictures
In-Reply-To: <3380583.1157118383557.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>
References: <p06240602c11cf59811f0@[10.0.1.3]>
	<22611EFE-6845-40F6-9194-70C831281931@mac.com>
	<p06240606c11ddea3b097@[10.0.1.3]>
	<3380583.1157118383557.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>
Message-ID: <CFE483D8-EC1E-4777-8D6D-333551BD4625@earthlink.net>

It's not your fault, it's Apple's, and there is a workaround on my  
favorite iMovie site: <http://www.sjoki.uta.fi/~shmhav/ 
iMovie_HD_6_bugs.html#jaggy_stills>.

Mw

On Sep 1, 2006, at 8:46 AM, Darcy Baston wrote:

> That's true.
>
> I never could make iMovie render still photos very well. Images  
> always came out looking heavily pixelated. If there's a trick to  
> retaining image quality, anyone, please come forward and rescue me. :)
>
> Darcy


Matthew Wheeler
Acting Vice President
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
http://www.dmmug.org





From rbowler at mchsi.com  Fri Sep  1 12:16:30 2006
From: rbowler at mchsi.com (Ray Bowler)
Date: Fri Sep  1 12:16:35 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] iMovie titles on individual pictures
In-Reply-To: <CFE483D8-EC1E-4777-8D6D-333551BD4625@earthlink.net>
References: <p06240602c11cf59811f0@[10.0.1.3]>
	<22611EFE-6845-40F6-9194-70C831281931@mac.com>
	<p06240606c11ddea3b097@[10.0.1.3]>
	<3380583.1157118383557.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>
	<CFE483D8-EC1E-4777-8D6D-333551BD4625@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <p0624060ac11e188b42f1@[10.0.1.3]>

Matt,

This relates to iMovie version 6. Mine is v.5.02 and will not upgrade 
to to 6.02 unless I have v.6. I cannot  find version 6.0 or 6.0.1 on 
their web site.

Ray
At 9:25 AM -0500 9/1/06, Matthew W. wrote:
>It's not your fault, it's Apple's, and there is a workaround on my 
>favorite iMovie site: 
><http://www.sjoki.uta.fi/~shmhav/iMovie_HD_6_bugs.html#jaggy_stills>.
>
>Mw
>
>On Sep 1, 2006, at 8:46 AM, Darcy Baston wrote:
>
>>That's true.
>>
>>I never could make iMovie render still photos very well. Images 
>>always came out looking heavily pixelated. If there's a trick to 
>>retaining image quality, anyone, please come forward and rescue me. 
>>:)
>>
>>Darcy
>
>
>Matthew Wheeler
>Acting Vice President
>Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
>http://www.dmmug.org
>
>
>
>
>
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From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Fri Sep  1 13:27:59 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Fri Sep  1 13:28:13 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] iMovie titles on individual pictures
In-Reply-To: <p0624060ac11e188b42f1@[10.0.1.3]>
References: <p06240602c11cf59811f0@[10.0.1.3]>
	<22611EFE-6845-40F6-9194-70C831281931@mac.com>
	<p06240606c11ddea3b097@[10.0.1.3]>
	<3380583.1157118383557.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>
	<CFE483D8-EC1E-4777-8D6D-333551BD4625@earthlink.net>
	<p0624060ac11e188b42f1@[10.0.1.3]>
Message-ID: <9D933C54-8E45-4775-86D4-2B2EF5590B17@earthlink.net>

The page states that this has been an unresolved bug since iMovie 4  
and lists several workarounds.

For simplicity's sake, here are the links to each main "bug" page.
<http://www.sjoki.uta.fi/~shmhav/iMovie_4_bugs.html>
<http://www.sjoki.uta.fi/~shmhav/iMovie_HD_5_bugs.html>
<http://www.sjoki.uta.fi/~shmhav/iMovie_HD_6_bugs.html>

The "main" page is just a table of contents.
<http://www.sjoki.uta.fi/~shmhav/>

5 will not upgrade to 6 unless you buy the entire package of iLife  
'06. Honestly, it's a bargain if you need it, but this particular bug  
is NOT yet fixed and there are other issues, one being no direct  
HomePage button within iPhoto '06. Apple expects you to use iWeb  
which isn't horrible, but it adds extra unnecessary steps.

Matthew

On Sep 1, 2006, at 12:16 PM, Ray Bowler wrote:

> Matt,
>
> This relates to iMovie version 6. Mine is v.5.02 and will not  
> upgrade to to 6.02 unless I have v.6. I cannot  find version 6.0 or  
> 6.0.1 on their web site.
>
> Ray


Matthew Wheeler
Acting Vice President
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
http://www.dmmug.org





From hfwelch at mac.com  Fri Sep  1 17:58:15 2006
From: hfwelch at mac.com (Holly Welch)
Date: Fri Sep  1 17:55:40 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] iMovie titles on individual pictures
In-Reply-To: <p06240608c11defbeb306@[10.0.1.3]>
References: <p06240602c11cf59811f0@[10.0.1.3]>
	<22611EFE-6845-40F6-9194-70C831281931@mac.com>
	<p06240606c11ddea3b097@[10.0.1.3]>
	<3380583.1157118383557.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>
	<p06240608c11defbeb306@[10.0.1.3]>
Message-ID: <706FAE56-D16B-47BF-90DE-B84358B47FC1@mac.com>

My  7th graders made iMovies that were crystal clear. They made  
movies that impressed real filmmakers.  I would be more than glad to  
have a workshop at Haddock, if Alan doesn't mind, and try to answer  
some of your questions.

Holly
On Sep 1, 2006, at 9:10 AM, Ray Bowler wrote:

> My frustration with iMovie also.
>
> At 8:46 AM -0500 9/1/06, Darcy Baston wrote:
>> That's true.
>>
>> I never could make iMovie render still photos very well. Images  
>> always came out looking heavily pixelated. If there's a trick to  
>> retaining image quality, anyone, please come forward and rescue  
>> me. :)
>>
>> Darcy
>>
>> On Friday, September 01, 2006, at 08:43AM, Ray Bowler  
>> <rbowler@mchsi.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The only problem with the iPhoto movie is that the title of the  
>>> slide
>>> is in the upper left hand corner. I would rather have it centered at
>>> the top or bottom.
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From hfwelch at mac.com  Fri Sep  1 17:59:04 2006
From: hfwelch at mac.com (Holly Welch)
Date: Fri Sep  1 17:56:24 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] iMovie titles on individual pictures
In-Reply-To: <p0624060ac11e188b42f1@[10.0.1.3]>
References: <p06240602c11cf59811f0@[10.0.1.3]>
	<22611EFE-6845-40F6-9194-70C831281931@mac.com>
	<p06240606c11ddea3b097@[10.0.1.3]>
	<3380583.1157118383557.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>
	<CFE483D8-EC1E-4777-8D6D-333551BD4625@earthlink.net>
	<p0624060ac11e188b42f1@[10.0.1.3]>
Message-ID: <070BCCBE-4DC7-4F57-954E-E8ACB30856C6@mac.com>

And my kids used iLife '04.
H
On Sep 1, 2006, at 12:16 PM, Ray Bowler wrote:

> Matt,
>
> This relates to iMovie version 6. Mine is v.5.02 and will not  
> upgrade to to 6.02 unless I have v.6. I cannot  find version 6.0 or  
> 6.0.1 on their web site.
>
> Ray
> At 9:25 AM -0500 9/1/06, Matthew W. wrote:
>> It's not your fault, it's Apple's, and there is a workaround on my  
>> favorite iMovie site: <http://www.sjoki.uta.fi/~shmhav/ 
>> iMovie_HD_6_bugs.html#jaggy_stills>.
>>
>> Mw
>>
>> On Sep 1, 2006, at 8:46 AM, Darcy Baston wrote:
>>
>>> That's true.
>>>
>>> I never could make iMovie render still photos very well. Images  
>>> always came out looking heavily pixelated. If there's a trick to  
>>> retaining image quality, anyone, please come forward and rescue  
>>> me. :)
>>>
>>> Darcy
>>
>>
>> Matthew Wheeler
>> Acting Vice President
>> Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
>> http://www.dmmug.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
> -- 
> Ray Bowler
>
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From tcweeks at qwest.net  Fri Sep  1 20:02:13 2006
From: tcweeks at qwest.net (Theresa Weeks)
Date: Fri Sep  1 20:10:47 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] iMovie titles on individual pictures
In-Reply-To: <706FAE56-D16B-47BF-90DE-B84358B47FC1@mac.com>
References: <p06240602c11cf59811f0@[10.0.1.3]>
	<22611EFE-6845-40F6-9194-70C831281931@mac.com>
	<p06240606c11ddea3b097@[10.0.1.3]>
	<3380583.1157118383557.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>
	<p06240608c11defbeb306@[10.0.1.3]>
	<706FAE56-D16B-47BF-90DE-B84358B47FC1@mac.com>
Message-ID: <245897B2-673E-43A3-8BA9-F3B58A4CDDB8@qwest.net>

Hi Holly:

We would love to attend one of your iMovie seminars. Count us in!
The Weeks

On Sep 1, 2006, at 5:58 PM, Holly Welch wrote:

> My  7th graders made iMovies that were crystal clear. They made  
> movies that impressed real filmmakers.  I would be more than glad  
> to have a workshop at Haddock, if Alan doesn't mind, and try to  
> answer some of your questions.
>
> Holly
> On Sep 1, 2006, at 9:10 AM, Ray Bowler wrote:
>
>> My frustration with iMovie also.
>>
>> At 8:46 AM -0500 9/1/06, Darcy Baston wrote:
>>> That's true.
>>>
>>> I never could make iMovie render still photos very well. Images  
>>> always came out looking heavily pixelated. If there's a trick to  
>>> retaining image quality, anyone, please come forward and rescue  
>>> me. :)
>>>
>>> Darcy
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 01, 2006, at 08:43AM, Ray Bowler  
>>> <rbowler@mchsi.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The only problem with the iPhoto movie is that the title of the  
>>>> slide
>>>> is in the upper left hand corner. I would rather have it  
>>>> centered at
>>>> the top or bottom.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Dmmug mailing list
>>> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
>>> Dmmug@dmmug.org
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>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Ray Bowler
>>
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From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Fri Sep  1 21:00:12 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Fri Sep  1 21:01:22 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] 60W MacBook Power Adapter
Message-ID: <p06240402c11e95449ec6@[192.168.0.10]>

	I picked up a 'refreshed' one today at the Apple Store for 
$50 but was confused, and got the one for the MB and not the Mac Book 
Pro one --- if anyone wants to buy it off me, that'd be great....and 
easier than taking it back.  Pls. email me off list by the end of the 
weekend....
-- 
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<http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, planning & 
photography, <http://www.JourneyZing.com>.  Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com.
From aaron at aaronjensen.net  Fri Sep  1 22:35:48 2006
From: aaron at aaronjensen.net (Aaron Jensen)
Date: Fri Sep  1 22:35:52 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] 15" PowerBook G4 for Sale
Message-ID: <b748be730609012035x49e183dft1ceb35a0d438f872@mail.gmail.com>

I am looking to sell a 15" PowerBook G4.  The specifications are as follows:

1.25 GHz G4
1.5GB DDR SDRAM
ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (64MB)
80GB HD (8MB / 5400 RPM)
Superdrive
Bluetooth
Airport Extreme
Backlit keyboard
Firewire (400/800)
2xUSB
Gigabit Ethernet
Applecare

Asking $1000.  If interested please contact me ASAP if you are interested as
I plan to place it on eBay in the next few days.

Thanks,
Aaron
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From: tomlu92 at gmail.com (Tom Lundvall)
Date: Fri Sep  1 23:39:20 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Wanted: Canon EOS equipment
Message-ID: <6d867ba50609012139r18090ca6v371b591f7266001c@mail.gmail.com>

Hello to all the old time members.  I am back living in Iowa and been
subscribing to the list for quite awhile and enjoying the conversations.  I
have a Canon EOS Rebel digital camera and I am looking for some additional
accessories.  If anybody has any Canon SLR equipment, digital or film,
please let me know.
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From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Sat Sep  2 07:46:59 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Sat Sep  2 07:48:43 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] MacZot deal...fyi
Message-ID: <p06240403c11f2da8005e@[192.168.0.12]>

>macZot! has a deal on three programs: $5.95 for $68.95 worth, and they
>include rooSwitch, which allows creation of profiles for applications,
>hawkeye for DVD creation, and KIT for organization along the lines of
>Yojimbo. This deal is good until midnight tonight.
><http://www.macZot.com/>
><http://roobasoft.com/rooSwitch/>
><http://reinventedsoftware.com/>
><http://www.nitosoft.com/en.html>

-- 
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Upcoming show:  Two Rivers Festival, November 10-12th, downtown Des 
Moines.
From rbowler at mchsi.com  Sat Sep  2 09:55:42 2006
From: rbowler at mchsi.com (Ray Bowler)
Date: Sat Sep  2 09:56:02 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] iMovie titles on individual pictures
In-Reply-To: <706FAE56-D16B-47BF-90DE-B84358B47FC1@mac.com>
References: <p06240602c11cf59811f0@[10.0.1.3]>
	<22611EFE-6845-40F6-9194-70C831281931@mac.com>
	<p06240606c11ddea3b097@[10.0.1.3]>
	<3380583.1157118383557.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>
	<p06240608c11defbeb306@[10.0.1.3]>
	<706FAE56-D16B-47BF-90DE-B84358B47FC1@mac.com>
Message-ID: <p0624060fc11f49a1c446@[10.0.1.3]>

Holly,

I would love to have an iMovie workshop. I was talking to a 
professional , Jason  Zilk, the other day and he was very impressed. 
The frustrating thing is that  I did it once before and they were 
good.

Matt,

At $80 I want to avoid the cost..


At 5:58 PM -0500 9/1/06, Holly Welch wrote:
>My  7th graders made iMovies that were crystal clear. They made 
>movies that impressed real filmmakers.  I would be more than glad to 
>have a workshop at Haddock, if Alan doesn't mind, and try to answer 
>some of your questions.
>
>Holly
>On Sep 1, 2006, at 9:10 AM, Ray Bowler wrote:
>
>>My frustration with iMovie also.
>>
>>At 8:46 AM -0500 9/1/06, Darcy Baston wrote:
>>>That's true.
>>>
>>>I never could make iMovie render still photos very well. Images 
>>>always came out looking heavily pixelated. If there's a trick to 
>>>retaining image quality, anyone, please come forward and rescue 
>>>me. :)
>>>
>>>Darcy
>>>
>>>On Friday, September 01, 2006, at 08:43AM, Ray Bowler 
>>><rbowler@mchsi.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>The only problem with the iPhoto movie is that the title of the slide
>>>>is in the upper left hand corner. I would rather have it centered at
>>>>the top or bottom.
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>Dmmug mailing list
>>>Use this Address to send mail to the list:
>>>Dmmug@dmmug.org
>>>Use this page to modify subscription options:
>>>http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug
>>
>>
>>--
>>Ray Bowler
>>
>>rbowler.home.mchsi.com
>>_______________________________________________
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From hfwelch at mac.com  Sat Sep  2 10:26:01 2006
From: hfwelch at mac.com (Holly Welch)
Date: Sat Sep  2 10:23:30 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] iMovie titles on individual pictures
In-Reply-To: <p0624060fc11f49a1c446@[10.0.1.3]>
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Ray,
Does Jason use iMovie at all? I know he is a professional, and  
interested to hear what he is using!
Holly
On Sep 2, 2006, at 9:55 AM, Ray Bowler wrote:

> Holly,
>
> I would love to have an iMovie workshop. I was talking to a  
> professional , Jason  Zilk, the other day and he was very  
> impressed. The frustrating thing is that  I did it once before and  
> they were good.
>
> Matt,
>
> At $80 I want to avoid the cost..
>
>
> At 5:58 PM -0500 9/1/06, Holly Welch wrote:
>> My  7th graders made iMovies that were crystal clear. They made  
>> movies that impressed real filmmakers.  I would be more than glad  
>> to have a workshop at Haddock, if Alan doesn't mind, and try to  
>> answer some of your questions.
>>
>> Holly
>> On Sep 1, 2006, at 9:10 AM, Ray Bowler wrote:
>>
>>> My frustration with iMovie also.
>>>
>>> At 8:46 AM -0500 9/1/06, Darcy Baston wrote:
>>>> That's true.
>>>>
>>>> I never could make iMovie render still photos very well. Images  
>>>> always came out looking heavily pixelated. If there's a trick to  
>>>> retaining image quality, anyone, please come forward and rescue  
>>>> me. :)
>>>>
>>>> Darcy
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, September 01, 2006, at 08:43AM, Ray Bowler  
>>>> <rbowler@mchsi.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The only problem with the iPhoto movie is that the title of the  
>>>>> slide
>>>>> is in the upper left hand corner. I would rather have it  
>>>>> centered at
>>>>> the top or bottom.
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>>>
>>> --
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>>>
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From jonsharyl at prairieinet.net  Sat Sep  2 14:30:51 2006
From: jonsharyl at prairieinet.net (Jon Engelhardt)
Date: Sat Sep  2 14:30:53 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] iMovie titles on individual pictures
In-Reply-To: <5D55CD07-49A9-4EF6-A437-4D40C77F536B@mac.com>
References: <p06240602c11cf59811f0@[10.0.1.3]>
	<22611EFE-6845-40F6-9194-70C831281931@mac.com>
	<p06240606c11ddea3b097@[10.0.1.3]>
	<3380583.1157118383557.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>
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	<706FAE56-D16B-47BF-90DE-B84358B47FC1@mac.com>
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How about having Holly do a workshop in addition to the monthly  
meetings?
Jon
On Sep 2, 2006, at 10:26 AM, Holly Welch wrote:

> Ray,
> Does Jason use iMovie at all? I know he is a professional, and  
> interested to hear what he is using!
> Holly
> On Sep 2, 2006, at 9:55 AM, Ray Bowler wrote:
>
>> Holly,
>>
>> I would love to have an iMovie workshop. I was talking to a  
>> professional , Jason  Zilk, the other day and he was very  
>> impressed. The frustrating thing is that  I did it once before and  
>> they were good.
>>
>> Matt,
>>
>> At $80 I want to avoid the cost..
>>
>>
>> At 5:58 PM -0500 9/1/06, Holly Welch wrote:
>>> My  7th graders made iMovies that were crystal clear. They made  
>>> movies that impressed real filmmakers.  I would be more than glad  
>>> to have a workshop at Haddock, if Alan doesn't mind, and try to  
>>> answer some of your questions.
>>>
>>> Holly
>>> On Sep 1, 2006, at 9:10 AM, Ray Bowler wrote:
>>>
>>>> My frustration with iMovie also.
>>>>
>>>> At 8:46 AM -0500 9/1/06, Darcy Baston wrote:
>>>>> That's true.
>>>>>
>>>>> I never could make iMovie render still photos very well. Images  
>>>>> always came out looking heavily pixelated. If there's a trick  
>>>>> to retaining image quality, anyone, please come forward and  
>>>>> rescue me. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Darcy
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, September 01, 2006, at 08:43AM, Ray Bowler  
>>>>> <rbowler@mchsi.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The only problem with the iPhoto movie is that the title of  
>>>>>> the slide
>>>>>> is in the upper left hand corner. I would rather have it  
>>>>>> centered at
>>>>>> the top or bottom.
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Dmmug mailing list
>>>>> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
>>>>> Dmmug@dmmug.org
>>>>> Use this page to modify subscription options:
>>>>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ray Bowler
>>>>
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>>
>> -- 
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>>
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From rbowler at mchsi.com  Sat Sep  2 21:32:57 2006
From: rbowler at mchsi.com (Ray Bowler)
Date: Sat Sep  2 21:33:02 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] iMovie titles on individual pictures
In-Reply-To: <1953D8A6-AF70-4F11-BC38-A809109C74F6@prairieinet.net>
References: <p06240602c11cf59811f0@[10.0.1.3]>
	<22611EFE-6845-40F6-9194-70C831281931@mac.com>
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Since Bailey will not be able to do this month's how about Holly doing hers?

At 2:30 PM -0500 9/2/06, Jon Engelhardt wrote:
>How about having Holly do a workshop in addition to the monthly meetings?
>Jon
>On Sep 2, 2006, at 10:26 AM, Holly Welch wrote:
>
>>Ray,
>>Does Jason use iMovie at all? I know he is a professional, and 
>>interested to hear what he is using!
>>Holly
>>On Sep 2, 2006, at 9:55 AM, Ray Bowler wrote:
>>
>>>Holly,
>>>
>>>I would love to have an iMovie workshop. I was talking to a 
>>>professional , Jason  Zilk, the other day and he was very 
>>>impressed. The frustrating thing is that  I did it once before and 
>>>they were good.
>>>
>>>Matt,
>>>
>>>At $80 I want to avoid the cost..
>>>
>>>
>>>At 5:58 PM -0500 9/1/06, Holly Welch wrote:
>>>>My  7th graders made iMovies that were crystal clear. They made 
>>>>movies that impressed real filmmakers.  I would be more than glad 
>>>>to have a workshop at Haddock, if Alan doesn't mind, and try to 
>>>>answer some of your questions.
>>>>
>>>>Holly
>>>>On Sep 1, 2006, at 9:10 AM, Ray Bowler wrote:

-- 
Ray Bowler

rbowler.home.mchsi.com
From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Sat Sep  2 22:48:47 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Sat Sep  2 22:49:04 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] iMovie titles on individual pictures
In-Reply-To: <p06240617c11feef6842c@[10.0.1.3]>
References: <p06240602c11cf59811f0@[10.0.1.3]>
	<22611EFE-6845-40F6-9194-70C831281931@mac.com>
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	<3380583.1157118383557.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>
	<p06240608c11defbeb306@[10.0.1.3]>
	<706FAE56-D16B-47BF-90DE-B84358B47FC1@mac.com>
	<p0624060fc11f49a1c446@[10.0.1.3]>
	<5D55CD07-49A9-4EF6-A437-4D40C77F536B@mac.com>
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	<p06240617c11feef6842c@[10.0.1.3]>
Message-ID: <AB132787-999C-42F8-BCB1-F6117E99D0B0@earthlink.net>

Holly's scheduled for November's meeting. Alan's volunteered to talk  
on the Promethean white board in Bailey's place, so I'm looking for  
another short subject to go along with it. Stay tuned next week for  
the updated schedule.

Matthew

On Sep 2, 2006, at 9:32 PM, Ray Bowler wrote:

> Since Bailey will not be able to do this month's how about Holly  
> doing hers?

Matthew Wheeler
Acting Vice President
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
http://www.dmmug.org





From juantrujillo1 at mac.com  Sat Sep  2 23:53:51 2006
From: juantrujillo1 at mac.com (juan trujillo)
Date: Sat Sep  2 23:53:16 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] change e-mail
Message-ID: <3AA3A070-5893-4502-8EB9-256B77BBEAF6@mac.com>

Hi DM MUG: This is to request to pleaqse change my contact e-mail,  
the one on Mac.com is going to stop soon,so please use :  
Itranslate4you@mchsi.com.
Thank you,the info is great.
Juan Trujillo
From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Sun Sep  3 00:11:11 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Sun Sep  3 00:11:26 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] change e-mail
In-Reply-To: <3AA3A070-5893-4502-8EB9-256B77BBEAF6@mac.com>
References: <3AA3A070-5893-4502-8EB9-256B77BBEAF6@mac.com>
Message-ID: <81322E72-2BB1-4CBA-906F-FF3340E7441F@earthlink.net>

Please see <http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug> to change your  
e-mail settings. It's also at the end of each list posting in the  
signature.

Cheers!

Mw

On Sep 2, 2006, at 11:53 PM, juan trujillo wrote:

> Hi DM MUG: This is to request to pleaqse change my contact e-mail,  
> the one on Mac.com is going to stop soon,so please use :  
> Itranslate4you@mchsi.com.
> Thank you,the info is great.
> Juan Trujillo



Matthew Wheeler
Acting Vice President
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
http://www.dmmug.org





From wmbrainiac at mac.com  Sun Sep  3 16:39:29 2006
From: wmbrainiac at mac.com (John Eller)
Date: Sun Sep  3 16:39:37 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] older unit for sale
In-Reply-To: <AB132787-999C-42F8-BCB1-F6117E99D0B0@earthlink.net>
References: <p06240602c11cf59811f0@[10.0.1.3]>
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	<1953D8A6-AF70-4F11-BC38-A809109C74F6@prairieinet.net>
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Message-ID: <F555D2F1-4FAC-4ED9-8B30-6F09ABAB763E@mac.com>




i'm toying with the idea of parting with my old imac dv.

500mh G3
1 gb of ram
30 gb hd
2 usb, 2 fw outputs
currently running 10.4.3
it's the blue/gray translucent model

have never had any trouble with it, but
be forewarned that i'm a smoker.
any buyer might want to clean it up, though it looks fine to me,
and god knows whether or not the
internal stuff is coated with icky smoke goo.
of course, it has no fan, so smoke hasn't exactly been drawn through it.
as indicated, has only worked perfectly during my entire ownership.

no idea what this might be worth to someone, if anything.

talk me into selling it with an amazing enormous offer.
with the maxed out ram, it runs the current OS just fine for basic apps.
From darcybaston at mac.com  Sun Sep  3 18:16:32 2006
From: darcybaston at mac.com (Darcy Baston)
Date: Sun Sep  3 18:16:40 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] older unit for sale
In-Reply-To: <F555D2F1-4FAC-4ED9-8B30-6F09ABAB763E@mac.com>
References: <p06240602c11cf59811f0@[10.0.1.3]>
	<22611EFE-6845-40F6-9194-70C831281931@mac.com>
	<p06240606c11ddea3b097@[10.0.1.3]>
	<3380583.1157118383557.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>
	<p06240608c11defbeb306@[10.0.1.3]>
	<706FAE56-D16B-47BF-90DE-B84358B47FC1@mac.com>
	<p0624060fc11f49a1c446@[10.0.1.3]>
	<5D55CD07-49A9-4EF6-A437-4D40C77F536B@mac.com>
	<1953D8A6-AF70-4F11-BC38-A809109C74F6@prairieinet.net>
	<p06240617c11feef6842c@[10.0.1.3]>
	<AB132787-999C-42F8-BCB1-F6117E99D0B0@earthlink.net>
	<F555D2F1-4FAC-4ED9-8B30-6F09ABAB763E@mac.com>
Message-ID: <B79F7A4F-02CC-464C-8CC4-C56621C9042C@mac.com>

Hey John.

I've exposed my computers to smoke before (not anymore = ex-smoker).  
I sold a smoke-stained 1999 iMac DV SE to my brother in 2003, and  
it's worked perfectly to this day.

To prospective buyers:

I'm putting in a vote of confidence for a fine and resilient Mac  
model. I used a 400MHz model iMac (with 128 MB RAM and 13 Gig drive)  
for audio/midi sequencing and it performed great with ProTools LE.  
Games like Diablo II and Quake 3 ran comfortably as did design apps  
like Adobe GoLive and Photoshop (OS 9 versions). It was also a great  
internet sharing device with an airport range of several floors in an  
apartment building. Best airport range I had ever seen! The sound was  
very good considering the size of its speakers. I find that today's  
iMacs' built-in speakers don't sound nearly as good as these earlier  
models did. External Firewire CD burners work great on this iMac, and  
I never made any coasters even when multitasking.

Darcy

On Sep 3, 2006, at 4:39 PM, John Eller wrote:




i'm toying with the idea of parting with my old imac dv.

500mh G3
1 gb of ram
30 gb hd
2 usb, 2 fw outputs
currently running 10.4.3
it's the blue/gray translucent model

have never had any trouble with it, but
be forewarned that i'm a smoker.
any buyer might want to clean it up, though it looks fine to me,
and god knows whether or not the
internal stuff is coated with icky smoke goo.
of course, it has no fan, so smoke hasn't exactly been drawn through it.
as indicated, has only worked perfectly during my entire ownership.

no idea what this might be worth to someone, if anything.

talk me into selling it with an amazing enormous offer.
with the maxed out ram, it runs the current OS just fine for basic apps.
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From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Mon Sep  4 10:41:30 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Mon Sep  4 10:41:52 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] CrossOver.....
Message-ID: <p06240402c121f9789bb9@[192.168.0.12]>

I'm testing Crossover by Codeweavers and want to try it out on soem 
WIN apps....where might I find some quickly and free for trial 
purposes?

can any of you suggest downloadable trial versions of helpful WIN
software I could test with CrossOver...I've never paid attention to
WIN software before but to do my article [this weekend if possible] I
need to have something to test it with.  Codeweavers has a list of
apps. that may or may not work, but I'd like to try it anyway with
4-5 or so basic lawyer-desired apps. Of course, I have none in stock
but could test with downloadable trial.  The two above appear to
work.  Other ideas??
-- 
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Discrimination & Employment Law, 
<http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> ;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  Two Rivers Festival, November 10-12th, downtown Des 
Moines.
From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Mon Sep  4 15:37:55 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Mon Sep  4 15:38:16 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] CrossOver.....
In-Reply-To: <p06240402c121f9789bb9@[192.168.0.12]>
References: <p06240402c121f9789bb9@[192.168.0.12]>
Message-ID: <25A18EF5-7CE0-40C9-9700-6B7ED2DF6C73@earthlink.net>

Versiontracker.com has both Mac and Windows software. Tucows.com is  
another, mostly Win site. Go to desired commercial software home  
pages and look for trials. Browsers are also good bets. Opera,  
Mozilla, FireFox, Camino, etc.

Matthew

On Sep 4, 2006, at 10:41 AM, Victoria L. Herring wrote:

> I'm testing Crossover by Codeweavers and want to try it out on soem  
> WIN apps....where might I find some quickly and free for trial  
> purposes?
>
> can any of you suggest downloadable trial versions of helpful WIN
> software I could test with CrossOver...I've never paid attention to
> WIN software before but to do my article [this weekend if possible] I
> need to have something to test it with.  Codeweavers has a list of
> apps. that may or may not work, but I'd like to try it anyway with
> 4-5 or so basic lawyer-desired apps. Of course, I have none in stock
> but could test with downloadable trial.  The two above appear to
> work.  Other ideas??



Matthew Wheeler
Acting Vice President
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
http://www.dmmug.org





From jlagnese at mac.com  Mon Sep  4 17:10:15 2006
From: jlagnese at mac.com (jim lagnese)
Date: Mon Sep  4 17:10:30 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] CrossOver.....
In-Reply-To: <25A18EF5-7CE0-40C9-9700-6B7ED2DF6C73@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <C1220E77.38560%jlagnese@mac.com>

MacUpdate is yet another site....


On 9/4/06 3:37 PM, "Matthew W." <maccelerate@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Versiontracker.com has both Mac and Windows software. Tucows.com is
> another, mostly Win site. Go to desired commercial software home
> pages and look for trials. Browsers are also good bets. Opera,
> Mozilla, FireFox, Camino, etc.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> On Sep 4, 2006, at 10:41 AM, Victoria L. Herring wrote:
> 
>> I'm testing Crossover by Codeweavers and want to try it out on soem
>> WIN apps....where might I find some quickly and free for trial
>> purposes?
>> 
>> can any of you suggest downloadable trial versions of helpful WIN
>> software I could test with CrossOver...I've never paid attention to
>> WIN software before but to do my article [this weekend if possible] I
>> need to have something to test it with.  Codeweavers has a list of
>> apps. that may or may not work, but I'd like to try it anyway with
>> 4-5 or so basic lawyer-desired apps. Of course, I have none in stock
>> but could test with downloadable trial.  The two above appear to
>> work.  Other ideas??
> 
> 
> 
> Matthew Wheeler
> Acting Vice President
> Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
> http://www.dmmug.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From jonsharyl at prairieinet.net  Mon Sep  4 17:22:56 2006
From: jonsharyl at prairieinet.net (Jon Engelhardt)
Date: Mon Sep  4 17:22:54 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Slide scanning
Message-ID: <18BFF0A5-0599-4249-8D89-1B82570720C1@prairieinet.net>

We have "several carousels" full of slides that we would like to  
transfer to the computer and of course make copies of for our  
family.  The salesman at Compu USA was very knowledgeable and showed  
us an Epson printer/scanner/copier that might work.   Went to the  
Apple store and that was a mistake, deer in the headlights look.  I  
thought I would ask you folks first and then perhaps google to see  
what's out there.

Any and all suggestions are most welcome.

Thanks.

Jon Engelhardt
Adel, IA


From wmbrainiac at mac.com  Mon Sep  4 17:29:22 2006
From: wmbrainiac at mac.com (John Eller)
Date: Mon Sep  4 17:29:28 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Slide scanning
In-Reply-To: <18BFF0A5-0599-4249-8D89-1B82570720C1@prairieinet.net>
References: <18BFF0A5-0599-4249-8D89-1B82570720C1@prairieinet.net>
Message-ID: <B2C532F3-0B4E-4638-8C5C-462B64868254@mac.com>

macworld magazine has been recommending the canoscan 9950F
as one of the best peripherals of its kind for a year now
on their peripherals round-up page.
it comes with slide mounts.
i bought it to do as you're proposing, but haven't started.

canon's supposed to have pretty good optics on their scanners.

you might want to get something better than the software that comes  
with.
i've downloaded silverfast software for the scanner - haven't even  
opened that yet   ) :

stuff takes time!


On Sep 4, 2006, at 5:22 PM, Jon Engelhardt wrote:

> We have "several carousels" full of slides that we would like to  
> transfer to the computer and of course make copies of for our  
> family.  The salesman at Compu USA was very knowledgeable and  
> showed us an Epson printer/scanner/copier that might work.   Went  
> to the Apple store and that was a mistake, deer in the headlights  
> look.  I thought I would ask you folks first and then perhaps  
> google to see what's out there.
>
> Any and all suggestions are most welcome.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jon Engelhardt
> Adel, IA
>
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From vanish at dreamscapevisionery.com  Mon Sep  4 17:41:11 2006
From: vanish at dreamscapevisionery.com (Chris Van Cleve)
Date: Mon Sep  4 17:41:16 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Slide scanning
In-Reply-To: <18BFF0A5-0599-4249-8D89-1B82570720C1@prairieinet.net>
References: <18BFF0A5-0599-4249-8D89-1B82570720C1@prairieinet.net>
Message-ID: <A7420BD9-F5DB-4A05-B085-6D8417F171A5@dreamscapevisionery.com>

I purchased the Epson Stylus Photo RX620. The first All-in-one I've  
ever purchased because of the issues that normally arise with them.  
However, I can attest that it's ability to scan photos, negatives and  
slides in unparalleled. I have already scanned several carousels of  
slides. THe software that comes from Epson does an excellent job of  
"fixing" the scans. I usually don't have to do much postwork in  
Photoshop after the scan is complete. I highly recommend the unit. If  
you'd like, I can send you some samples of slide scans I've done. YOu  
just have to agree not to tell me how much you laughed at the  
hairstyles and awful clothes from the 70s... ;)

Chris Van Cleve

On Sep 4, 2006, at 5:22 PM, Jon Engelhardt wrote:

> We have "several carousels" full of slides that we would like to  
> transfer to the computer and of course make copies of for our  
> family.  The salesman at Compu USA was very knowledgeable and  
> showed us an Epson printer/scanner/copier that might work.   Went  
> to the Apple store and that was a mistake, deer in the headlights  
> look.  I thought I would ask you folks first and then perhaps  
> google to see what's out there.
>
> Any and all suggestions are most welcome.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jon Engelhardt
> Adel, IA
>
>
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From jonsharyl at prairieinet.net  Mon Sep  4 18:38:23 2006
From: jonsharyl at prairieinet.net (Jon Engelhardt)
Date: Mon Sep  4 18:38:23 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Slide scanning
In-Reply-To: <A7420BD9-F5DB-4A05-B085-6D8417F171A5@dreamscapevisionery.com>
References: <18BFF0A5-0599-4249-8D89-1B82570720C1@prairieinet.net>
	<A7420BD9-F5DB-4A05-B085-6D8417F171A5@dreamscapevisionery.com>
Message-ID: <4CDA3332-6A2E-46B6-88BE-A6B93E0BB1B3@prairieinet.net>

Chris, I have to laugh.  I don't know why but we pulled ALL of our  
slides out this afternoon and set up the projector and screen, what a  
hoot!  I can't believe I had that much hair, still have most of it  
but MUCH shorter and it seems to have changed color---brown was  
boring--gray is much more distinguished :)  And then there's the  
clothes---------good grief, the clothes of the '70's were truly  
something to behold.  Thanks for the info and offer, I was impressed  
with the Epson I saw this afternoon at Comp USA.  I'll let everyone  
know how the search goes once completed.

Jon
On Sep 4, 2006, at 5:41 PM, Chris Van Cleve wrote:

> I purchased the Epson Stylus Photo RX620. The first All-in-one I've  
> ever purchased because of the issues that normally arise with them.  
> However, I can attest that it's ability to scan photos, negatives  
> and slides in unparalleled. I have already scanned several  
> carousels of slides. THe software that comes from Epson does an  
> excellent job of "fixing" the scans. I usually don't have to do  
> much postwork in Photoshop after the scan is complete. I highly  
> recommend the unit. If you'd like, I can send you some samples of  
> slide scans I've done. YOu just have to agree not to tell me how  
> much you laughed at the hairstyles and awful clothes from the  
> 70s... ;)
>
> Chris Van Cleve
>
> On Sep 4, 2006, at 5:22 PM, Jon Engelhardt wrote:
>
>> We have "several carousels" full of slides that we would like to  
>> transfer to the computer and of course make copies of for our  
>> family.  The salesman at Compu USA was very knowledgeable and  
>> showed us an Epson printer/scanner/copier that might work.   Went  
>> to the Apple store and that was a mistake, deer in the headlights  
>> look.  I thought I would ask you folks first and then perhaps  
>> google to see what's out there.
>>
>> Any and all suggestions are most welcome.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Jon Engelhardt
>> Adel, IA
>>
>>
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From hfwelch at mac.com  Mon Sep  4 18:53:27 2006
From: hfwelch at mac.com (Holly Welch)
Date: Mon Sep  4 19:00:29 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Slide scanning
In-Reply-To: <4CDA3332-6A2E-46B6-88BE-A6B93E0BB1B3@prairieinet.net>
References: <18BFF0A5-0599-4249-8D89-1B82570720C1@prairieinet.net>
	<A7420BD9-F5DB-4A05-B085-6D8417F171A5@dreamscapevisionery.com>
	<4CDA3332-6A2E-46B6-88BE-A6B93E0BB1B3@prairieinet.net>
Message-ID: <14EB3ACD-0C47-424D-B77F-71CBA4C03E42@mac.com>

I've been scanning slides with several models of Epson scanners,  
clear back to the 1640. I have had very good luck with all!
Holly
On Sep 4, 2006, at 6:38 PM, Jon Engelhardt wrote:

> Chris, I have to laugh.  I don't know why but we pulled ALL of our  
> slides out this afternoon and set up the projector and screen, what  
> a hoot!  I can't believe I had that much hair, still have most of  
> it but MUCH shorter and it seems to have changed color---brown was  
> boring--gray is much more distinguished :)  And then there's the  
> clothes---------good grief, the clothes of the '70's were truly  
> something to behold.  Thanks for the info and offer, I was  
> impressed with the Epson I saw this afternoon at Comp USA.  I'll  
> let everyone know how the search goes once completed.
>
> Jon
> On Sep 4, 2006, at 5:41 PM, Chris Van Cleve wrote:
>
>> I purchased the Epson Stylus Photo RX620. The first All-in-one  
>> I've ever purchased because of the issues that normally arise with  
>> them. However, I can attest that it's ability to scan photos,  
>> negatives and slides in unparalleled. I have already scanned  
>> several carousels of slides. THe software that comes from Epson  
>> does an excellent job of "fixing" the scans. I usually don't have  
>> to do much postwork in Photoshop after the scan is complete. I  
>> highly recommend the unit. If you'd like, I can send you some  
>> samples of slide scans I've done. YOu just have to agree not to  
>> tell me how much you laughed at the hairstyles and awful clothes  
>> from the 70s... ;)
>>
>> Chris Van Cleve
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2006, at 5:22 PM, Jon Engelhardt wrote:
>>
>>> We have "several carousels" full of slides that we would like to  
>>> transfer to the computer and of course make copies of for our  
>>> family.  The salesman at Compu USA was very knowledgeable and  
>>> showed us an Epson printer/scanner/copier that might work.   Went  
>>> to the Apple store and that was a mistake, deer in the headlights  
>>> look.  I thought I would ask you folks first and then perhaps  
>>> google to see what's out there.
>>>
>>> Any and all suggestions are most welcome.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Jon Engelhardt
>>> Adel, IA
>>>
>>>
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From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Mon Sep  4 20:15:16 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Mon Sep  4 20:15:32 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Slide scanning
In-Reply-To: <18BFF0A5-0599-4249-8D89-1B82570720C1@prairieinet.net>
References: <18BFF0A5-0599-4249-8D89-1B82570720C1@prairieinet.net>
Message-ID: <5C0C5CE4-9A36-49EA-AFE2-B7EFCB6778DB@earthlink.net>

I've had occasion to use Nikon *slide* scanners and they were great  
with their optix, but software was bad, and the slide autoloaders  
were a waste of money. Consider yourself warned, other suggestions  
are probably on target.

Matthew

On Sep 4, 2006, at 5:22 PM, Jon Engelhardt wrote:

> We have "several carousels" full of slides that we would like to  
> transfer to the computer and of course make copies of for our  
> family.  The salesman at Compu USA was very knowledgeable and  
> showed us an Epson printer/scanner/copier that might work.   Went  
> to the Apple store and that was a mistake, deer in the headlights  
> look.  I thought I would ask you folks first and then perhaps  
> google to see what's out there.
>
> Any and all suggestions are most welcome.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jon Engelhardt
> Adel, IA


Matthew Wheeler
Acting Vice President
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
http://www.dmmug.org





From kcrouch at klccomputing.com  Mon Sep  4 21:27:13 2006
From: kcrouch at klccomputing.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?kcrouch?=)
Date: Mon Sep  4 21:27:19 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Slide scanning
Message-ID: <20060905022713.8135.qmail@server284.com>

The 9950F has a smaller sibling called the 8400F. This is the best scanner that I've ever owned. It's rated nearly as 
high as the 9950F, except it only supports USB 1, not USB 2.


>  -------Original Message-------
>  From: John Eller <wmbrainiac@mac.com>
>  Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Slide scanning
>  Sent: 04 Sep '06 22:29
>  
>  macworld magazine has been recommending the canoscan 9950F
>  as one of the best peripherals of its kind for a year now
>  on their peripherals round-up page.
>  it comes with slide mounts.
>  i bought it to do as you're proposing, but haven't started.
>  
>  canon's supposed to have pretty good optics on their scanners.
>  
>  you might want to get something better than the software that comes??
>  with.
>  i've downloaded silverfast software for the scanner - haven't even??
>  opened that yet?? ) :
>  
>  stuff takes time!
>  
>  
>  On Sep 4, 2006, at 5:22 PM, Jon Engelhardt wrote:
>  
>  > We have "several carousels" full of slides that we would like to??
>  > transfer to the computer and of course make copies of for our??
>  > family.??The salesman at Compu USA was very knowledgeable and??
>  > showed us an Epson printer/scanner/copier that might work.?? Went??
>  > to the Apple store and that was a mistake, deer in the headlights??
>  > look.??I thought I would ask you folks first and then perhaps??
>  > google to see what's out there.
>  >
>  > Any and all suggestions are most welcome.
>  >
>  > Thanks.
>  >
>  > Jon Engelhardt
>  > Adel, IA
>  >
>  >
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From kcrouch at klccomputing.com  Mon Sep  4 21:27:13 2006
From: kcrouch at klccomputing.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?kcrouch?=)
Date: Mon Sep  4 21:27:19 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Slide scanning
Message-ID: <20060905022713.8135.qmail@server284.com>

The 9950F has a smaller sibling called the 8400F. This is the best scanner that I've ever owned. It's rated nearly as 
high as the 9950F, except it only supports USB 1, not USB 2.


>  -------Original Message-------
>  From: John Eller <wmbrainiac@mac.com>
>  Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Slide scanning
>  Sent: 04 Sep '06 22:29
>  
>  macworld magazine has been recommending the canoscan 9950F
>  as one of the best peripherals of its kind for a year now
>  on their peripherals round-up page.
>  it comes with slide mounts.
>  i bought it to do as you're proposing, but haven't started.
>  
>  canon's supposed to have pretty good optics on their scanners.
>  
>  you might want to get something better than the software that comes??
>  with.
>  i've downloaded silverfast software for the scanner - haven't even??
>  opened that yet?? ) :
>  
>  stuff takes time!
>  
>  
>  On Sep 4, 2006, at 5:22 PM, Jon Engelhardt wrote:
>  
>  > We have "several carousels" full of slides that we would like to??
>  > transfer to the computer and of course make copies of for our??
>  > family.??The salesman at Compu USA was very knowledgeable and??
>  > showed us an Epson printer/scanner/copier that might work.?? Went??
>  > to the Apple store and that was a mistake, deer in the headlights??
>  > look.??I thought I would ask you folks first and then perhaps??
>  > google to see what's out there.
>  >
>  > Any and all suggestions are most welcome.
>  >
>  > Thanks.
>  >
>  > Jon Engelhardt
>  > Adel, IA
>  >
>  >
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From ka_klick at mac.com  Tue Sep  5 08:14:22 2006
From: ka_klick at mac.com (Bryan Baker)
Date: Tue Sep  5 08:14:29 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Slide scanning
In-Reply-To: <20060905022713.8135.qmail@server284.com>
References: <20060905022713.8135.qmail@server284.com>
Message-ID: <F55773C9-3F2F-4899-925B-AF6EF3CA58A2@mac.com>

I will agree that the 8400 is a great scanner, but it IS USB2 -  
here's a profile from the system info utility on my machine with the  
detail of my scanner:

===
CanoScan:

   Version:	4.00
   Bus Power (mA):	500
   Speed:	Up to 480 Mb/sec
   Manufacturer:	Canon
   Product ID:	0x221e
   Vendor ID:	0x04a9
===

480 MB/sec is USB2.
You may be thinking of Firewire (which the 8400 lacks).
And it does scan slides quite nicely (did a bunch of really old ones  
last year).

On Sep 4, 2006, at 9:27 PM, kcrouch wrote:
> The 9950F has a smaller sibling called the 8400F. This is the best  
> scanner that I've ever owned. It's rated nearly as
> high as the 9950F, except it only supports USB 1, not USB 2.
>
>
>>  -------Original Message-------
>>  From: John Eller <wmbrainiac@mac.com>
>>  Subject: Re: [DM-MUG] Slide scanning
>>  Sent: 04 Sep '06 22:29
>>
>>  macworld magazine has been recommending the canoscan 9950F
>>  as one of the best peripherals of its kind for a year now
>>  on their peripherals round-up page.
>>  it comes with slide mounts.
>>  i bought it to do as you're proposing, but haven't started.
>>
>>  canon's supposed to have pretty good optics on their scanners.
>>
>>  you might want to get something better than the software that comes
>>  with.
>>  i've downloaded silverfast software for the scanner - haven't even
>>  opened that yet   ) :
>>
>>  stuff takes time!
>>
>>
>>  On Sep 4, 2006, at 5:22 PM, Jon Engelhardt wrote:
>>
>>> We have "several carousels" full of slides that we would like to
>>> transfer to the computer and of course make copies of for our
>>> family.  The salesman at Compu USA was very knowledgeable and
>>> showed us an Epson printer/scanner/copier that might work.   Went
>>> to the Apple store and that was a mistake, deer in the headlights
>>> look.  I thought I would ask you folks first and then perhaps
>>> google to see what's out there.
>>>
>>> Any and all suggestions are most welcome.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Jon Engelhardt
>>> Adel, IA
>>>
>>>
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From ka_klick at mac.com  Tue Sep  5 15:20:39 2006
From: ka_klick at mac.com (Bryan Baker)
Date: Tue Sep  5 15:21:00 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Fwd: Older Mac Equipment
References: <BAY109-F1340F27779E662E68DAA18BA300@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <17154D61-0E21-46E9-ABD2-DBF68F1B531F@mac.com>



Begin forwarded message:

> From: Shannon Rodgers <shannontrodgers@hotmail.com>
> Date: September 5, 2006 3:16:30 PM CDT
> To: dmmug@dmmug.org, president@dmmug.org, vp@dmmug.org,  
> secretary@dmmug.org, treasurer@dmmug.org
> Subject: Older Mac Equipment
>
>
> To Whom It May Concern:
> I am looking to sell several older Macs ? LC, several Performas,  
> LaserSelect printer, ImageWriterII and such in working order.  I  
> know these are archaic and not worth a whole lot, but my beige  
> friends deserve to stay out of landfills and be of some use if  
> possible.  I am currently wiping my data off and will have them in  
> a garage sale ? any input/interest is appreciated! :)
> Please write to me at shannontrodgers@hotmail.com  THANK YOU!
>
>

--
Bryan Baker
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From darcybaston at mac.com  Wed Sep  6 19:08:00 2006
From: darcybaston at mac.com (Darcy Baston)
Date: Wed Sep  6 19:08:03 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] looking to reach Mathew
Message-ID: <1090379.1157587680140.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>

Hey Mathew. I need to talk to you about getting a used PC. A friend's machine died and they'd like a replacement as quickly as possible. 1.x GHz machine of some kind would do.

Sorry that I didn't have you in my address book. :)

Darcy
From jlagnese at mac.com  Wed Sep  6 20:07:21 2006
From: jlagnese at mac.com (jim lagnese)
Date: Wed Sep  6 20:07:36 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] looking to reach Mathew
In-Reply-To: <1090379.1157587680140.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>
Message-ID: <C124DAF9.3880B%jlagnese@mac.com>

Why not get a Mac Mini?


On 9/6/06 7:08 PM, "Darcy Baston" <darcybaston@mac.com> wrote:

> Hey Mathew. I need to talk to you about getting a used PC. A friend's machine
> died and they'd like a replacement as quickly as possible. 1.x GHz machine of
> some kind would do.
> 
> Sorry that I didn't have you in my address book. :)
> 
> Darcy
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From darcybaston at mac.com  Wed Sep  6 23:53:01 2006
From: darcybaston at mac.com (Darcy Baston)
Date: Wed Sep  6 23:53:07 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] looking to reach Mathew
In-Reply-To: <C124DAF9.3880B%jlagnese@mac.com>
References: <C124DAF9.3880B%jlagnese@mac.com>
Message-ID: <F88B26C7-3BAF-4E67-8BEB-A40D463CCE22@mac.com>

It was cheaper to get an eMachine ($349 for 3.2 GHz, 512MB RAM, 120GB  
HD, DVD/CDRW combo) and put the hard drive from the dead computer in  
there to move data over from. Problem solved. Once they're done  
salvaging info, the second internal hard drive will become a nightly  
backup drive.

Matthew, I'll still take your contact info but I have to take back  
the request for information on a used machine. They decided to go  
new, in the moment.

Darcy

On Sep 6, 2006, at 8:07 PM, jim lagnese wrote:

Why not get a Mac Mini?


On 9/6/06 7:08 PM, "Darcy Baston" <darcybaston@mac.com> wrote:

> Hey Mathew. I need to talk to you about getting a used PC. A  
> friend's machine
> died and they'd like a replacement as quickly as possible. 1.x GHz  
> machine of
> some kind would do.
>
> Sorry that I didn't have you in my address book. :)
>
> Darcy
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From juliejoyce at mchsi.com  Thu Sep  7 05:25:22 2006
From: juliejoyce at mchsi.com (Julie Joyce)
Date: Thu Sep  7 05:16:48 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Slow Mac
In-Reply-To: <20060906170002.78CC45957@www.cialug.org>
Message-ID: <2B70F101-3E5B-11DB-85C8-000393D140F4@mchsi.com>

Hello:

When I bought my PowerBook G4 a couple of years ago, it did everything 
fast.  But for quite some time now, it slows down often and quite a 
bit.  The problem seems to be my email (I have tons of emails saved), 
which frequently goes through a tedious process of "Writing changes to 
disk," "Connecting to server," "Updating index," "Saving index..." etc. 
  Everything freezes while this happens.  Is there anything I personally 
can do to make it speedy again -- or will I have to purchase something 
such as Disk Warrior???

Thank you!

Julie Joyce


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> From: Bryan Baker <ka_klick@mac.com>
> Date: Tue Sep 5, 2006  3:20:39  PM US/Central
> To: Des Moines Mac Users Group <dmmug@dmmug.org>
> Subject: [DM-MUG] Fwd: Older Mac Equipment
> Reply-To: Des Moines Mac Users Group <dmmug@dmmug.org>
>
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Shannon Rodgers <shannontrodgers@hotmail.com>
>> Date: September 5, 2006 3:16:30 PM CDT
>> To: dmmug@dmmug.org, president@dmmug.org, vp@dmmug.org, 
>> secretary@dmmug.org, treasurer@dmmug.org
>> Subject: Older Mac Equipment
>>
>>
>> To Whom It May Concern:
>> I am looking to sell several older Macs ? LC, several Performas, 
>> LaserSelect printer, ImageWriterII and such in working order.  I know 
>> these are archaic and not worth a whole lot, but my beige friends 
>> deserve to stay out of landfills and be of some use if possible.  I 
>> am currently wiping my data off and will have them in a garage sale ? 
>> any input/interest is appreciated! :)
>> Please write to me at shannontrodgers@hotmail.com  THANK YOU!
>>
>>
>
> --
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From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Thu Sep  7 08:35:04 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Thu Sep  7 08:35:19 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Slow Mac
In-Reply-To: <2B70F101-3E5B-11DB-85C8-000393D140F4@mchsi.com>
References: <2B70F101-3E5B-11DB-85C8-000393D140F4@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <5D6DD7B7-231F-4F37-A40F-D155CF2C536D@earthlink.net>

Just like a car, gunk can build up in the system. Disk Warrior can  
repair and optimize the directory, or catalog, on a disk and that can  
help further the reliability of the machine. If there IS a severe  
directory problem, then it could impede progress and slow things  
down, but that's not usually what happens.

If you haven't kept up regular maintenance, removed unused startup  
items and kept certain system preference items updated, you'll start  
succumbing to what I call the 'upgrade downgrade.' See, any computer  
is like a car. You have to check the fluid levels, take the barbells  
out of the trunk, lube the door locks, clean out the back window so  
you can see police cars and mobsters following you, and keep the  
engine tuned-up. If you start towing around a camper (10.4) without  
making sure the rest of the engine is at its peak, you'll start to  
backfire, burn oil, lose power, etc. Of course, some machines run for  
years before noticing any ill effect.

There is no single answer, but Disk Warrior is a fine product. Like  
changing your own oil, it helps you become more knowledgeable about  
your own machine. From your description, that problem *could* be  
directory-based as all of these things rely upon some aspect of the  
database, except 'Connecting to sever.' Your Mail.app database for  
one or more mailboxes could be a little confused, but rebuilding them  
(select a mailbox and go to the menu Mailbox and choose Rebuild)  
without verifying that your directory is fit may not help much.

It might help to know if 'everything' is slow, or just when you're  
using Mail.app? Your referenced symptoms are all Mail-specific  
problems and unless you're actually seeing the system drag across-the- 
board, then we should only look into Mail itself.

Matthew

On Sep 7, 2006, at 5:25 AM, Julie Joyce wrote:

> Hello:
>
> When I bought my PowerBook G4 a couple of years ago, it did  
> everything fast.  But for quite some time now, it slows down often  
> and quite a bit.  The problem seems to be my email (I have tons of  
> emails saved), which frequently goes through a tedious process of  
> "Writing changes to disk," "Connecting to server," "Updating  
> index," "Saving index..." etc.  Everything freezes while this  
> happens.  Is there anything I personally can do to make it speedy  
> again -- or will I have to purchase something such as Disk Warrior???
>
> Thank you!
>
> Julie Joyce


Matthew Wheeler
Acting Vice President
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
http://www.dmmug.org





From jlagnese at mac.com  Thu Sep  7 09:17:47 2006
From: jlagnese at mac.com (jim lagnese)
Date: Thu Sep  7 09:18:11 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Slow Mac
In-Reply-To: <5D6DD7B7-231F-4F37-A40F-D155CF2C536D@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <C125943B.388C4%jlagnese@mac.com>

Clearing the caches seem to help as well...I believe there are several
utilities that do it. I just set up a cron job....


On 9/7/06 8:35 AM, "Matthew W." <maccelerate@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Just like a car, gunk can build up in the system. Disk Warrior can
> repair and optimize the directory, or catalog, on a disk and that can
> help further the reliability of the machine. If there IS a severe
> directory problem, then it could impede progress and slow things
> down, but that's not usually what happens.
> 
> If you haven't kept up regular maintenance, removed unused startup
> items and kept certain system preference items updated, you'll start
> succumbing to what I call the 'upgrade downgrade.' See, any computer
> is like a car. You have to check the fluid levels, take the barbells
> out of the trunk, lube the door locks, clean out the back window so
> you can see police cars and mobsters following you, and keep the
> engine tuned-up. If you start towing around a camper (10.4) without
> making sure the rest of the engine is at its peak, you'll start to
> backfire, burn oil, lose power, etc. Of course, some machines run for
> years before noticing any ill effect.
> 
> There is no single answer, but Disk Warrior is a fine product. Like
> changing your own oil, it helps you become more knowledgeable about
> your own machine. From your description, that problem *could* be
> directory-based as all of these things rely upon some aspect of the
> database, except 'Connecting to sever.' Your Mail.app database for
> one or more mailboxes could be a little confused, but rebuilding them
> (select a mailbox and go to the menu Mailbox and choose Rebuild)
> without verifying that your directory is fit may not help much.
> 
> It might help to know if 'everything' is slow, or just when you're
> using Mail.app? Your referenced symptoms are all Mail-specific
> problems and unless you're actually seeing the system drag across-the-
> board, then we should only look into Mail itself.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> On Sep 7, 2006, at 5:25 AM, Julie Joyce wrote:
> 
>> Hello:
>> 
>> When I bought my PowerBook G4 a couple of years ago, it did
>> everything fast.  But for quite some time now, it slows down often
>> and quite a bit.  The problem seems to be my email (I have tons of
>> emails saved), which frequently goes through a tedious process of
>> "Writing changes to disk," "Connecting to server," "Updating
>> index," "Saving index..." etc.  Everything freezes while this
>> happens.  Is there anything I personally can do to make it speedy
>> again -- or will I have to purchase something such as Disk Warrior???
>> 
>> Thank you!
>> 
>> Julie Joyce
> 
> 
> Matthew Wheeler
> Acting Vice President
> Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
> http://www.dmmug.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From alan at gohaddock.com  Thu Sep  7 13:21:03 2006
From: alan at gohaddock.com (Alan Hansen)
Date: Thu Sep  7 13:21:37 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Macintosh Service/Sales Technician Wanted
In-Reply-To: <C125943B.388C4%jlagnese@mac.com>
Message-ID: <C125CD3F.AB32%alan@gohaddock.com>

We are looking for someone with the following talent:

Computer Service/Sales Technician
Local Apple Specialist Haddock Computer is looking for Service/Sales
Technicians to work on Apple Macintosh products, as well as some Windows
computers.

We will train entry-level technicians, and/or we will assist higher level
technicians reach their highest Apple certifications.

Position is Full-Time, Monday through Friday and is available immediately.

If someone on this list is interested please email me directly and attach
your resume.

Thanks,
Alan

???? Please send mail to alan@gohaddock.com

Alan Hansen
Haddock Computer
801 73rd Street, Suite I, Windsor Heights, IA 50312
www.gohaddock.com (515) 225-9040 fax (515) 225-1264
iChat/AIM: AlanH@mac.com

Apple Sales Specialist,  Apple Service Provider Plus, Xerox Printer Sales &
Service, SonicWALL Sales & Networking, Promethean ACTIVboards,
Proud member of Apple's Service, Training and Reseller Advisory Boards


From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Thu Sep  7 14:24:31 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Thu Sep  7 14:25:12 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Slow Mac
In-Reply-To: <5D6DD7B7-231F-4F37-A40F-D155CF2C536D@earthlink.net>
References: <2B70F101-3E5B-11DB-85C8-000393D140F4@mchsi.com>
	<5D6DD7B7-231F-4F37-A40F-D155CF2C536D@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <p06240498c126223029dd@[192.168.0.12]>

I was just looking at the Diswarrior website and it doesn't work with 
Intel Macs....I use Onyx to do some basic maintenance tasks and cache 
cleaning but looks like there's no way to do the type of disk 
maintenance Matt is talking about....right?
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Discrimination & Employment Law, 
<http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> ;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  Two Rivers Festival, November 10-12th, downtown Des 
Moines.
From darcybaston at mac.com  Thu Sep  7 14:49:12 2006
From: darcybaston at mac.com (Darcy Baston)
Date: Thu Sep  7 14:49:31 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Slow Mac
Message-ID: <2693160.1157658552505.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>

For me, I refresh speed this way:

Spotlight Speed
-in Spotlight prefs, drag the boot volume in, close prefs, open up, go back to spotlight prefs and drag it out. This is supposed to rebuild the index.

Hard Drive Speed
-I have a mirror backup drive that I can do a full new backup to, reboot into and then restore to the other one, hoping to clear up some fragmentation.
-Let the computer stay on overnight to catch the OS X automatic maintenance routines.
-Reboot so that temporary virtual memory files are reset if the nightly maintenance didn't have a chance to run.
-Keep fewer files in the same folders. Deepend the hierarchy. Then the Finder doesn't have to generate or display as many preview icons per listing.

Internet Connection Speed
-Reset the router and DSL modem by turning both off for a minute and turning back on.

Apple Mail speed
-I routinely export mailboxes, or drag and drop messages into a folder in the Finder to keep its list of messages to manage small. I can always click twice on mail boxes or messages to open them individually without maintaining them in Mail. Spotlight makes finding their content real easy anyway.

Memory / CPU Resources
-Look at my user account in system prefs for startup items I don't want loading anymore.
-Use the utility "Diablotin" to look for other things that are loading that I don't want to.
-Use the process viewer to look for things running in the background that are using the CPU. I was onced surprised to find that just having my Grahpire draw table plugged in kept a constant 2% load. I leave it unplugged unless in use now.
-Look in the sharing section of system preferences and make sure things like file sharing isn't turned on (unless intentional)
-Switch to the dashboard and close widgets I left open that I'm not actively using.

That's about it! I'm still new to the PowerPC G5 experience (since last November) and this thing is so fast I can't really tell when anything is slowing down unless there's something really gone awry. But when I had a 900MHZ iBook 14", all the above seemed to help a great deal.

Darcy
From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Thu Sep  7 14:56:39 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Thu Sep  7 14:57:42 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Slow Mac - good points
In-Reply-To: <2693160.1157658552505.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>
References: <2693160.1157658552505.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>
Message-ID: <p06240499c1262952d5b8@[192.168.0.12]>

>For me, I refresh speed this way:
>
>Spotlight Speed
>-in Spotlight prefs, drag the boot volume in, close prefs, open up, 
>go back to spotlight prefs and drag it out. This is supposed to 
>rebuild the index.

you can rebuild the index using Onyx, but I guess I didn't see a need 
to do that

>
>Hard Drive Speed
>-I have a mirror backup drive that I can do a full new backup to, 
>reboot into and then restore to the other one, hoping to clear up 
>some fragmentation.
>-Let the computer stay on overnight to catch the OS X automatic 
>maintenance routines.

I do that

>-Reboot so that temporary virtual memory files are reset if the 
>nightly maintenance didn't have a chance to run.

I do so every now and then

>-Keep fewer files in the same folders. Deepend the hierarchy. Then 
>the Finder doesn't have to generate or display as many preview icons 
>per listing.

I don't understand - do you mean only use 3-5 folders - or files for 
htat matter - within each folder and thus, limit the icons being 
displayed?

>
>Internet Connection Speed
>-Reset the router and DSL modem by turning both off for a minute and 
>turning back on.

good reminder...I forget that

>
>Apple Mail speed
>-I routinely export mailboxes, or drag and drop messages into a 
>folder in the Finder to keep its list of messages to manage small. I 
>can always click twice on mail boxes or messages to open them 
>individually without maintaining them in Mail. Spotlight makes 
>finding their content real easy anyway.
>
>Memory / CPU Resources
>-Look at my user account in system prefs for startup items I don't 
>want loading anymore.
>-Use the utility "Diablotin" to look for other things that are 
>loading that I don't want to.
>-Use the process viewer to look for things running in the background 
>that are using the CPU. I was onced surprised to find that just 
>having my Grahpire draw table plugged in kept a constant 2% load. I 
>leave it unplugged unless in use now.
>-Look in the sharing section of system preferences and make sure 
>things like file sharing isn't turned on (unless intentional)
>-Switch to the dashboard and close widgets I left open that I'm not 
>actively using.

-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Discrimination & Employment Law, 
<http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> ;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  Two Rivers Festival, November 10-12th, downtown Des 
Moines.
From darcybaston at mac.com  Thu Sep  7 14:59:20 2006
From: darcybaston at mac.com (Darcy Baston)
Date: Thu Sep  7 14:59:25 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Slow Mac
Message-ID: <11348466.1157659160424.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>

For me, I refresh speed this way:

Spotlight Speed
-in Spotlight prefs, drag the boot volume in, close prefs, open up, go back to spotlight prefs and drag it out. This is supposed to rebuild the index.

Hard Drive Speed
-I have a mirror backup drive that I can do a full new backup to, reboot into and then restore to the other one, hoping to clear up some fragmentation.
-Let the computer stay on overnight to catch the OS X automatic maintenance routines.
-Reboot so that temporary virtual memory files are reset if the nightly maintenance didn't have a chance to run.
-Keep fewer files in the same folders. Deepend the hierarchy. Then the Finder doesn't have to generate or display as many preview icons per listing.

Internet Connection Speed
-Reset the router and DSL modem by turning both off for a minute and turning back on.

Apple Mail speed
-I routinely export mailboxes, or drag and drop messages into a folder in the Finder to keep its list of messages to manage small. I can always click twice on mail boxes or messages to open them individually without maintaining them in Mail. Spotlight makes finding their content real easy anyway.

Memory / CPU Resources
-Look at my user account in system prefs for startup items I don't want loading anymore.
-Use the utility "Diablotin" to look for other things that are loading that I don't want to.
-Use the process viewer to look for things running in the background that are using the CPU. I was onced surprised to find that just having my Grahpire draw table plugged in kept a constant 2% load. I leave it unplugged unless in use now.
-Look in the sharing section of system preferences and make sure things like file sharing isn't turned on (unless intentional)
-Switch to the dashboard and close widgets I left open that I'm not actively using.

That's about it! I'm still new to the PowerPC G5 experience (since last November) and this thing is so fast I can't really tell when anything is slowing down unless there's something really gone awry. But when I had a 900MHZ iBook 14", all the above seemed to help a great deal.

Darcy
From darcybaston at mac.com  Thu Sep  7 15:15:20 2006
From: darcybaston at mac.com (Darcy Baston)
Date: Thu Sep  7 15:15:23 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Slow Mac - good points
In-Reply-To: <p06240499c1262952d5b8@[192.168.0.12]>
References: <2693160.1157658552505.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>
	<p06240499c1262952d5b8@[192.168.0.12]>
Message-ID: <6194691.1157660120399.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>

I think you've got it. I mean that if you've got 500 documents, figure out how to break it down into 5 different folders so that there's only a 100 being displayed at any one time. This of course affects icon preview mode only. List view is always rocket fast.

I do this with my applications folder too, which seems to be the folder that takes the longest to display on time vs. file quantity. I've created folders like:

-Games (WoW, Diablo II etc.)
-Internet (Firefox, Unison, Transmit, Skype, Acquisition etc.)
-Graphics (PSE, GraphicConverter, Omnigraffle etc.)
-Media  (Real, SWF Player, VLC, DivX etc.)

Darcy


On Thursday, September 07, 2006, at 02:57PM, Victoria L. Herring 
>
>I don't understand - do you mean only use 3-5 folders - or files for 
>htat matter - within each folder and thus, limit the icons being 
>displayed?
>
From darcybaston at mac.com  Fri Sep  8 07:04:51 2006
From: darcybaston at mac.com (Darcy Baston)
Date: Fri Sep  8 07:04:59 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] downloadable movies : impact on ISPs
Message-ID: <5682EEC9-E936-4A4C-BD0B-644A3B5490E8@mac.com>

Amazon has launched their UnBoxed.com service, that lets Windows  
users download full DVD quality movies (2 hours of content = 2.1 GB  
+-). You can watch it while it's downloading, but they suggest a 54  
minute wait to cache/buffer enough on a 1.5 Mbps broadband connection.

Rumors are flying of course about Apple launching their own lower  
priced movie buy/rent service next week.

If Apple follows suit next week or not, are the world's Internet  
Service Providers ready for the sudden jump in bandwidth consumption?  
Has anyone thought of what impact motivating people who usually check  
email, browse the web and buy 2-3 iTunes songs a month, to start  
gobbling up multiple gigs of bandwidth at a time as they begin to  
adopt this convenience?

Can you imagine how huge a spike there will be around midnight on a  
Thursday, when people choose to start their downloads to have them  
transfer overnight in preparation for a Friday night family viewing?  
Tt can take 4-7 hours on a slower broadband connection to download  
one of these 2 gig movies, so I would do it overnight and sleep on it.

I'm sure it's an ISP's nightmare to have its hundreds to thousands of  
customers jump from 5 gigs a month of consumption each, to 20 gigs  
each (assuming a modest one movie purchase/rental per week).

Or, will it be their blessing that they can have a new marketable  
reason for offering more expensive monthly packages for customers who  
want to jump into movie downloads? Maybe they can then catch the  
dollars of a bunch of enthusiastic torrent users too?

Any thoughts?

Darcy
From jlagnese at mac.com  Fri Sep  8 07:27:40 2006
From: jlagnese at mac.com (jim lagnese)
Date: Fri Sep  8 07:27:47 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] downloadable movies : impact on ISPs
In-Reply-To: <5682EEC9-E936-4A4C-BD0B-644A3B5490E8@mac.com>
Message-ID: <C126CBEC.38A16%jlagnese@mac.com>

I know Verizon went FO on the east coast and a friend of mine is getting BB
at something like 10mb or better. I have 7mb at home, but in reality, it's
more like 3-5 depending on the connection...At best. We all knew this would
happen. 


On 9/8/06 7:04 AM, "Darcy Baston" <darcybaston@mac.com> wrote:

> Amazon has launched their UnBoxed.com service, that lets Windows
> users download full DVD quality movies (2 hours of content = 2.1 GB
> +-). You can watch it while it's downloading, but they suggest a 54
> minute wait to cache/buffer enough on a 1.5 Mbps broadband connection.
> 
> Rumors are flying of course about Apple launching their own lower
> priced movie buy/rent service next week.
> 
> If Apple follows suit next week or not, are the world's Internet
> Service Providers ready for the sudden jump in bandwidth consumption?
> Has anyone thought of what impact motivating people who usually check
> email, browse the web and buy 2-3 iTunes songs a month, to start
> gobbling up multiple gigs of bandwidth at a time as they begin to
> adopt this convenience?
> 
> Can you imagine how huge a spike there will be around midnight on a
> Thursday, when people choose to start their downloads to have them
> transfer overnight in preparation for a Friday night family viewing?
> Tt can take 4-7 hours on a slower broadband connection to download
> one of these 2 gig movies, so I would do it overnight and sleep on it.
> 
> I'm sure it's an ISP's nightmare to have its hundreds to thousands of
> customers jump from 5 gigs a month of consumption each, to 20 gigs
> each (assuming a modest one movie purchase/rental per week).
> 
> Or, will it be their blessing that they can have a new marketable
> reason for offering more expensive monthly packages for customers who
> want to jump into movie downloads? Maybe they can then catch the
> dollars of a bunch of enthusiastic torrent users too?
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Darcy
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From jweida at gmail.com  Fri Sep  8 08:15:34 2006
From: jweida at gmail.com (Jerry Heiselman)
Date: Fri Sep  8 08:15:40 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] downloadable movies : impact on ISPs
In-Reply-To: <C126CBEC.38A16%jlagnese@mac.com>
References: <5682EEC9-E936-4A4C-BD0B-644A3B5490E8@mac.com>
	<C126CBEC.38A16%jlagnese@mac.com>
Message-ID: <40e57b5f0609080615k3e75745dsdfad325106416075@mail.gmail.com>

I've seen the ads for Mediacom offering up to 10 mbs.  I imagine a lot
of ISPs will start offering higher download speeds.  I've also heard
talk of some ISPs considering going back to a pay-for-bandwidth model
for people who put high demands on the system.

I know that I've seen tools out there to watch and report on an ISPs
top bandwidth consumers, so it could be just a matter of time before
they start automating mailings to go out to those users that say that
they have gone over the normal allowed usage and will be switched to a
pay-for-bandwidth package.

In one respect I can see how that would be a nuisance to someone who
only would do it occasionally to download a movie, but I definitely
understand the ISPs point of view in needing to maintain these
networks with high capacity demands.

--
Jerry
From djweis at internetsolver.com  Fri Sep  8 08:22:46 2006
From: djweis at internetsolver.com (Dave Weis)
Date: Fri Sep  8 08:31:49 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] downloadable movies : impact on ISPs
In-Reply-To: <5682EEC9-E936-4A4C-BD0B-644A3B5490E8@mac.com>
References: <5682EEC9-E936-4A4C-BD0B-644A3B5490E8@mac.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0609080820260.22473@charmed.internetsolver.com>


On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, Darcy Baston wrote:
> If Apple follows suit next week or not, are the world's Internet Service 
> Providers ready for the sudden jump in bandwidth consumption? Has anyone 
> thought of what impact motivating people who usually check email, browse the 
> web and buy 2-3 iTunes songs a month, to start gobbling up multiple gigs of 
> bandwidth at a time as they begin to adopt this convenience?
> Can you imagine how huge a spike there will be around midnight on a Thursday, 
> when people choose to start their downloads to have them transfer overnight 
> in preparation for a Friday night family viewing? Tt can take 4-7 hours on a 
> slower broadband connection to download one of these 2 gig movies, so I would 
> do it overnight and sleep on it.

It goes both ways. I don't think people realize that even though US 
bandwidth prices seem higher than other countries, we don't have the usage 
caps that other countries do and don't have quotas on off-continent 
traffic. The wholesale prices for bandwidth is much higher than consumers 
pay. If you wanted a completely non-oversold connection you could get it 
but it would be about 5-10x higher than you are paying now.

-- 
Dave Weis
djweis@internetsolver.com
http://www.internetsolver.com/

From jlagnese at mac.com  Fri Sep  8 10:17:51 2006
From: jlagnese at mac.com (jim lagnese)
Date: Fri Sep  8 10:17:58 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] downloadable movies : impact on ISPs
In-Reply-To: <40e57b5f0609080615k3e75745dsdfad325106416075@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C126F3CF.38A43%jlagnese@mac.com>

But what's the upload speed? Last I remember, Mediacom was 256k up...Even
896K is dog. I agree with Dave though, and another thing in other countries
is that they are taxed a lot more for just about everything and I bet there
is a healthy tax on the internet usage.


On 9/8/06 8:15 AM, "Jerry Heiselman" <jweida@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've seen the ads for Mediacom offering up to 10 mbs.  I imagine a lot
> of ISPs will start offering higher download speeds.  I've also heard
> talk of some ISPs considering going back to a pay-for-bandwidth model
> for people who put high demands on the system.
> 
> I know that I've seen tools out there to watch and report on an ISPs
> top bandwidth consumers, so it could be just a matter of time before
> they start automating mailings to go out to those users that say that
> they have gone over the normal allowed usage and will be switched to a
> pay-for-bandwidth package.
> 
> In one respect I can see how that would be a nuisance to someone who
> only would do it occasionally to download a movie, but I definitely
> understand the ISPs point of view in needing to maintain these
> networks with high capacity demands.
> 
> --
> Jerry
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From djweis at internetsolver.com  Fri Sep  8 10:20:11 2006
From: djweis at internetsolver.com (Dave Weis)
Date: Fri Sep  8 10:29:15 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] downloadable movies : impact on ISPs
In-Reply-To: <C126F3CF.38A43%jlagnese@mac.com>
References: <C126F3CF.38A43%jlagnese@mac.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0609081018110.27024@charmed.internetsolver.com>


On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, jim lagnese wrote:
> But what's the upload speed? Last I remember, Mediacom was 256k up...Even
> 896K is dog. I agree with Dave though, and another thing in other countries
> is that they are taxed a lot more for just about everything and I bet there
> is a healthy tax on the internet usage.

I think the cable upload gets closer to 1 meg with the faster speeds. 
There's legitimate technical reasons that the upload is so much lower than 
the download for cable and DSL.

There is no USF tax any more on DSL here.

dave



> On 9/8/06 8:15 AM, "Jerry Heiselman" <jweida@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've seen the ads for Mediacom offering up to 10 mbs.  I imagine a lot
>> of ISPs will start offering higher download speeds.  I've also heard
>> talk of some ISPs considering going back to a pay-for-bandwidth model
>> for people who put high demands on the system.
>>
>> I know that I've seen tools out there to watch and report on an ISPs
>> top bandwidth consumers, so it could be just a matter of time before
>> they start automating mailings to go out to those users that say that
>> they have gone over the normal allowed usage and will be switched to a
>> pay-for-bandwidth package.
>>
>> In one respect I can see how that would be a nuisance to someone who
>> only would do it occasionally to download a movie, but I definitely
>> understand the ISPs point of view in needing to maintain these
>> networks with high capacity demands.
>>
>> --
>> Jerry
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>> Dmmug@dmmug.org
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>
>
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From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Fri Sep  8 11:09:22 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Fri Sep  8 11:09:37 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] downloadable movies : impact on ISPs
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0609081018110.27024@charmed.internetsolver.com>
References: <C126F3CF.38A43%jlagnese@mac.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0609081018110.27024@charmed.internetsolver.com>
Message-ID: <FACA6058-262E-4C9B-A450-4CEE6BE7078A@earthlink.net>

You guys might want to make sure you're appealing to the whole user  
base (list) here when you post. You're talking over a lot of heads,  
mine included. Could you please explain the following:

What's a USF tax?

What is "FO & BB?"

Thanks!

>
> There is no USF tax any more on DSL here.
>

> I know Verizon went FO on the east coast and a friend of mine is  
> getting BB
> at something like 10mb or better.


Matthew Wheeler
Acting Vice President
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
http://www.dmmug.org





From vlh at herringlaw.com  Fri Sep  8 10:59:53 2006
From: vlh at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Fri Sep  8 11:10:30 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Spam filter for image spam in Mail...just fyi
Message-ID: <p06240405c12743df2d3d@[192.168.0.12]>

>
>Don't know if this applies to you but a lot of the spam I have 
>received lately is "image" spam and I added a filter to the built-in 
>Mail junk filters that has caught a lot of this.  You may want to 
>check out this link
>
>http://www.hawkwings.net/2006/08/01/mailapp-rule-fix-for-image-spam/
>
>Tommy Boothe

-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Discrimination & Employment Law, 
<http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> ;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  Two Rivers Festival, November 10-12th, downtown Des 
Moines.
From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Fri Sep  8 11:11:40 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Fri Sep  8 11:12:38 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Slow Mac - good points
In-Reply-To: <6194691.1157660120399.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>
References: <2693160.1157658552505.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>
	<p06240499c1262952d5b8@[192.168.0.12]>
	<6194691.1157660120399.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>
Message-ID: <p06240408c1274692cf2d@[192.168.0.12]>

>I think you've got it. I mean that if you've got 500 documents, 
>figure out how to break it down into 5 different folders so that 
>there's only a 100 being displayed at any one time. This of course 
>affects icon preview mode only. List view is always rocket fast.
>
>I do this with my applications folder too, which seems to be the 
>folder that takes the longest to display on time vs. file quantity. 
>I've created folders like:
>
>-Games (WoW, Diablo II etc.)
>-Internet (Firefox, Unison, Transmit, Skype, Acquisition etc.)
>-Graphics (PSE, GraphicConverter, Omnigraffle etc.)
>-Media  (Real, SWF Player, VLC, DivX etc.)
>

I assume you mean you put in folders only NON Apple Apps because I 
gather you shouldn't move around Apple Apps that are installed in the 
Apps folder, but others can be moved???  If I could do that I'd do it 
gladly
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Discrimination & Employment Law, 
<http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> ;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  Two Rivers Festival, November 10-12th, downtown Des 
Moines.
From jlagnese at mac.com  Fri Sep  8 11:13:59 2006
From: jlagnese at mac.com (jim lagnese)
Date: Fri Sep  8 11:14:08 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] downloadable movies : impact on ISPs
In-Reply-To: <FACA6058-262E-4C9B-A450-4CEE6BE7078A@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <C12700F7.38A93%jlagnese@mac.com>

Fibre Optic and Broad Band


On 9/8/06 11:09 AM, "Matthew W." <maccelerate@earthlink.net> wrote:

> You guys might want to make sure you're appealing to the whole user
> base (list) here when you post. You're talking over a lot of heads,
> mine included. Could you please explain the following:
> 
> What's a USF tax?
> 
> What is "FO & BB?"
> 
> Thanks!
> 
>> 
>> There is no USF tax any more on DSL here.
>> 
> 
>> I know Verizon went FO on the east coast and a friend of mine is
>> getting BB
>> at something like 10mb or better.
> 
> 
> Matthew Wheeler
> Acting Vice President
> Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
> http://www.dmmug.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From jweida at gmail.com  Fri Sep  8 11:30:15 2006
From: jweida at gmail.com (Jerry Heiselman)
Date: Fri Sep  8 11:30:19 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] downloadable movies : impact on ISPs
In-Reply-To: <C12700F7.38A93%jlagnese@mac.com>
References: <FACA6058-262E-4C9B-A450-4CEE6BE7078A@earthlink.net>
	<C12700F7.38A93%jlagnese@mac.com>
Message-ID: <40e57b5f0609080930w1bd08be5he259aade7f9cb12e@mail.gmail.com>

Mediacom's upload speed increases if you get the 10 mbps package.  I
believe they make it 1 mbit, but I could be wrong there.

USF = Universal Service Fund

--
Jerry
From darcybaston at mac.com  Fri Sep  8 13:21:36 2006
From: darcybaston at mac.com (Darcy Baston)
Date: Fri Sep  8 13:21:39 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Slow Mac - good points
In-Reply-To: <p06240408c1274692cf2d@[192.168.0.12]>
References: <2693160.1157658552505.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>
	<p06240499c1262952d5b8@[192.168.0.12]>
	<6194691.1157660120399.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>
	<p06240408c1274692cf2d@[192.168.0.12]>
Message-ID: <13396024.1157739696253.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>

Yeah, I don't move Apple apps. I leave default OS X ones and iLife ones right where they are. If I really need to have an Apple app in a category folder (like Quicktime in the 'Media' folder), I create an alias.

Anything else though, I move and categorize. If the apps are self updating, they do so without complaint. I've also occasionally put the category folders into the finder launch area on the left of windows (or into the dock), and it makes everything quicker to reach with less eye and scroll wheel strain.

Darcy
 
On Friday, September 08, 2006, at 11:12AM, Victoria L. Herring <vlherring@herringlaw.com> wrote:


>I assume you mean you put in folders only NON Apple Apps because I 
>gather you shouldn't move around Apple Apps that are installed in the 
>Apps folder, but others can be moved???  If I could do that I'd do it 
>gladly
>
From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Fri Sep  8 13:45:33 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Fri Sep  8 13:45:48 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] September DM-MUG meeting
Message-ID: <B281719A-E161-4EC2-8B22-58D12BF45304@earthlink.net>

Our next DM-MUG meeting, on September 26th at 7:30 PM, is just over 2  
weeks away! The topics have shifted somewhat. This month we get to  
see the Promethean White Board technology in action. This is a great  
product for educators and businesses and is just plain *cool*  
(according to Alan). For more pre-meeting product info contact Alan  
Hansen at the phone number below.

Here is the updated major topics list:

> Sept 26 	Promethean White Board demo: Alan Hansen
> Oct 24 	Beyond Microsoft Word: John Kisner
> Nov 28 	Share/Freeware roundup: Bailey Ford
> December?No meeting
> Jan 23 	Aperture, Pro-Am photography on a Mac: Victoria Herring
> Feb 27	New Mac Setup: Matthew Wheeler

As usual we meet at Haddock Computer.
801 73rd Street, Suite I
Windsor Heights, Iowa 50312
(515) 225-9040


--> Feel free to forward this to any other interested parties who may  
not be members or watch the list.

--> Please direct gripes, complaints, brilliant ideas, random  
musings, volunteerism, and Apple Store Gift Certificates (just  
kidding!) to maccelerate@earthlink.net.


Matthew Wheeler
Acting Vice President
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
http://www.dmmug.org





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From alanh at mac.com  Fri Sep  8 09:14:53 2006
From: alanh at mac.com (Alan Hansen)
Date: Sat Sep  9 15:01:52 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Macintosh Service/Sales Technician Wanted
In-Reply-To: <C125943B.388C4%jlagnese@mac.com>
Message-ID: <C126E50D.AB62%alanh@mac.com>

We are looking for someone with the following talent:

Computer Service/Sales Technician
Local Apple Specialist Haddock Computer is looking for Service/Sales
Technicians to work on Apple Macintosh products, as well as some Windows
computers.

We will train entry-level technicians, and/or we will assist higher level
technicians reach their highest Apple certifications.

Position is Full-Time, Monday through Friday and is available immediately.

If someone on this list is interested please email me directly and attach
your resume.

Thanks,
Alan

???? Please send mail to alan@gohaddock.com

Alan Hansen
Haddock Computer
801 73rd Street, Suite I, Windsor Heights, IA 50312
www.gohaddock.com (515) 225-9040 fax (515) 225-1264
iChat/AIM: AlanH@mac.com

Apple Sales Specialist,  Apple Service Provider Plus, Xerox Printer Sales &
Service, SonicWALL Sales & Networking, Promethean ACTIVboards,
Proud member of Apple's Service, Training and Reseller Advisory Boards


From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Tue Sep 12 14:41:34 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Tue Sep 12 14:41:42 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Ruminations....
Message-ID: <p06240446c12cbbf9b222@[192.168.0.12]>

I've been giving some thought to where DM MUG is going or should be 
and since I'm pretty compulsive thought I'd toss them out.  Maybe we 
can talk about them on list and at a meeting....:

1.  I think we should have some sort of dues to help Alan defray 
costs, to get a Dot Mac site, etc.  I'd be willing to keep funds in 
my lawyer's trust account, or others should have good ideas.  We'd 
certainly be a non profit and someone must know how to run such 
things.  The main point is to make it easier to be dynamic and 
resources are necessary for that, not all that much though. 
Depending on how large we are the dues need not be much [how large 
are we?] or we could structure them:  Business, Individual, Family, 
Senior/Student etc.

2.  I think we should have a nominating committee to come up with a 
slate of officers for next year.  Groups of which I am a member are 
in the midst of that this fall and we could and should do that too.

3.  We should use iWeb and create a Dot Mac hosted website that is 
gangbusters and really will pull in people.  The Take Control book on 
iWeb is great and there are such wonderful examples out there that we 
should try to beat them in look and feel = maybe even to getting good 
free publicity for the coolest website?   We could do a Blog so 
everyone in DM-MUG and outside can contribute comments etc. The more 
we publicize and link DM-MUG the better.

	In fact, we should be using as many Apple applications as 
possible = such as the iCal calendar now in effect.  We can and 
should use the products we talk about and promote the heck out of 
them.

4.  We might want to make a connection not only with Alan but with 
the Apple Store and get some events going in both places, and 
probably CompUSA too.  [I got on the Apple.com list of events and 
there are lots of things going on!]  We need to let people know we're 
out here == the Mac ads on TV do a great job, but not if no one knows 
there is a group here able and willing to help.

5.  One of the first jobs in 2007 should be creating a strategic plan 
or structure to take DM-MUG into the future and energize it. 
Programming is an essential part of it = people should be able to 
leave a meeting having learned one or more new things that night, and 
eager for more.

6.  We could partner with other MUG groups in other states or areas 
and do joint programming...hold educational meetings, swap meets, 
etc....reach out to others of similar interest.

well that's enough for now, lots to chew on!

Vicky
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Discrimination & Employment Law, 
<http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> ;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  Two Rivers Festival, November 10-12th, downtown Des 
Moines.
From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Tue Sep 12 17:39:18 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Tue Sep 12 17:39:34 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] September meeting - CORRECTION
Message-ID: <8581FFAD-65B4-4D4A-A45C-C5A5D47DDE0F@earthlink.net>

[Please delete the last message I sent. The schedule was incorrect.]

Our next DM-MUG meeting, on September 26th at 7:30 PM, is just 2  
weeks away! The topics have shifted somewhat. This month we get to  
see the Promethean White Board technology in action. This is a great  
product for educators and businesses and is just plain *cool*  
(according to Alan). For more pre-meeting product info contact Alan  
Hansen at the phone number below.

Here is the updated major topics list:

> Sept 26 	Promethean White Board demo: Alan Hansen
> Oct 24 	Beyond Microsoft Word: John Kisner
> Nov 28 	Digital Storytelling with a Mac: Holly Welch
> December?No meeting
> Jan 23 	Aperture, Pro-Am photography on a Mac: Victoria Herring
> Feb 27	New Mac Setup: Matthew Wheeler

As usual we meet at Haddock Computer.
801 73rd Street, Suite I
Windsor Heights, Iowa 50312
(515) 225-9040


--> Feel free to forward this to any other interested parties who may  
not be members or watch the list.

--> Please direct gripes, complaints, brilliant ideas, random  
musings, volunteerism, and Apple Store Gift Certificates (just  
kidding!) to maccelerate@earthlink.net.


Matthew Wheeler
Acting Vice President
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
http://www.dmmug.org
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From rbowler at mchsi.com  Tue Sep 12 20:06:08 2006
From: rbowler at mchsi.com (Ray Bowler)
Date: Tue Sep 12 20:06:13 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Ruminations....
In-Reply-To: <p06240446c12cbbf9b222@[192.168.0.12]>
References: <p06240446c12cbbf9b222@[192.168.0.12]>
Message-ID: <p06240619c12cf677a9f8@[10.0.1.3]>

Vicky,

Someone needs to start this whole process who is not burned out over the past.

1. What has held the dues up has been a bank account. If we could 
keep it in your trust fund that would be a problem solved.

At 2:41 PM -0500 9/12/06, Victoria L. Herring wrote:
>
>1.  I think we should have some sort of dues to help Alan defray 
>costs, to get a Dot Mac site, etc.

2. A nominating committee would be fine. Could we ask Bryan to 
appoint one next meeting?

>2.  I think we should have a nominating committee to come up with a 
>slate of officers for next year.  Groups of which I am a member are 
>in the midst of that this fall and we could and should do that too.

3. Do you like the present site? Byan is doing it and it becomes a 
chore for him. Maybe someone else can help, either at the present 
side or on .Mac


>3.  We should use iWeb and create a Dot Mac hosted website that is 
>gangbusters and really will pull in people.  The Take Control book 
>on iWeb is great and there are such wonderful examples out there 
>that we should try to beat them in look and feel = maybe even to 
>getting good free publicity for the coolest website?   We could do a 
>Blog so everyone in DM-MUG and outside can contribute comments etc. 
>The more we publicize and link DM-MUG the better.

4. A connection with the Apple Store on some formal basis would be 
nice. CompUSA can be dicey.

>
>4.  We might want to make a connection not only with Alan but with 
>the Apple Store and get some events going in both places, and 
>probably CompUSA too.  [

5. A job for the officers or for a special committee?

>5.  One of the first jobs in 2007 should be creating a strategic 
>plan or structure to take DM-MUG into the future and energize it. 
>Programming is an essential part of it = people should be able to 
>leave a meeting having learned one or more new things that night, 
>and eager for more.

6. Good again.

>6.  We could partner with other MUG groups in other states or areas 
>and do joint programming...hold educational meetings, swap meets, 
>etc....reach out to others of similar interest.
>

-- 
Ray Bowler

rbowler.home.mchsi.com
From kisnerj at dwx.com  Tue Sep 12 20:49:15 2006
From: kisnerj at dwx.com (John Kisner)
Date: Tue Sep 12 20:49:22 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Ruminations....
In-Reply-To: p06240619c12cf677a9f8@[10.0.1.3]
References: <p06240446c12cbbf9b222@[192.168.0.12]>
	p06240619c12cf677a9f8@[10.0.1.3]
Message-ID: <71F0C526-4837-4EFD-8E00-481EBB647B4F@dwx.com>

The present group of officers is very knowledgeable and personable.  
I'm not sure the titles really matter much... the main thing is just  
showing up on those meeting nights (which is tough given we're all  
tugged in so many directions).  There are obviously a lot of people  
who get what they need from DMMUG through the email group -- maybe  
the physical meeting will never amount to more than a cadre.

A better web site would be nice, but I'm not sure it how important it  
is.  You may be correct that there is a subset of the Mac community  
that doesn't want to subscribe to this email group who might come to  
more meetings if "what we do" was better illustrated with pictures  
and text.  I don't really see how the group would be served by  
switching to a .Mac account, assuming our current cost is nil.

My impression is that The Apple Store isn't too interested in  
supporting DMMUG, because they want the Genius Bar to be the center  
of the local Mac community.  It's also somewhat awkward to advertise  
meetings held at a rival place of business.  A neutral meeting site,  
such as a library or school, would be a likely prerequisite for  
expanding the group through support from Jordan Creek and Comp USA.   
What's been great about the Haddock site is that we get another Mac  
guru (Alan) to attend that way.  That said, the lion's share of Mac  
traffic flows through Jordan Creek, so that would be the place to try  
and advertise the group.

We've just begun an interesting experiment to open up the  
presentations to a wider group. Topic choice is always a problem,  
because there are few tasks that all of us are going to be interested  
in.  What gives me confidence that the new meeting format will work  
well is the idea that Bryan and company will be there, ready to step  
forward and guide the discussion.

John
From jon at mac-consultant.com  Tue Sep 12 21:51:04 2006
From: jon at mac-consultant.com (Jon Thompson)
Date: Tue Sep 12 21:51:08 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] downloadable movies : impact on ISPs
In-Reply-To: <40e57b5f0609080930w1bd08be5he259aade7f9cb12e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <FACA6058-262E-4C9B-A450-4CEE6BE7078A@earthlink.net>
	<C12700F7.38A93%jlagnese@mac.com>
	<40e57b5f0609080930w1bd08be5he259aade7f9cb12e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A9A0D2E7-9F6A-419D-A8C4-F42D93D9712D@mac-consultant.com>

Dave just installed 20 Mbps at my apartment with 1 Mbps upload.  It  
is very nice, software updates download in less time than it takes to  
actually install the software.

I would strongly suggest anyone that is in a neighborhood (I'm  
downtown) that qualifies talk to Dave about getting something this  
fast.  It is very, very nice.
-- 
Jon Thompson
jthompson@greatapetrust.org
515.360.1351

Insights through collaborations with apes
Great Ape Trust of Iowa
www.greatapetrust.org



On 2006, Sep 8, at 11:30 AM, Jerry Heiselman wrote:

> Mediacom's upload speed increases if you get the 10 mbps package.  I
> believe they make it 1 mbit, but I could be wrong there.
>
> USF = Universal Service Fund
>
> --
> Jerry
> _______________________________________________
> Dmmug mailing list
> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
> Dmmug@dmmug.org
> Use this page to modify subscription options:
> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug

From billd at ecity.net  Wed Sep 13 01:03:40 2006
From: billd at ecity.net (Bill Davis)
Date: Wed Sep 13 01:04:01 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] downloadable movies : impact on ISPs
In-Reply-To: <A9A0D2E7-9F6A-419D-A8C4-F42D93D9712D@mac-consultant.com>
References: <FACA6058-262E-4C9B-A450-4CEE6BE7078A@earthlink.net>
	<C12700F7.38A93%jlagnese@mac.com>
	<40e57b5f0609080930w1bd08be5he259aade7f9cb12e@mail.gmail.com>
	<A9A0D2E7-9F6A-419D-A8C4-F42D93D9712D@mac-consultant.com>
Message-ID: <63D21226-E978-46F5-892F-3223E2DDA569@ecity.net>

Dave who?   What company sells this?


On Sep 12, 2006, at 9:51 PM, Jon Thompson wrote:

> Dave just installed 20 Mbps at my apartment with 1 Mbps upload.  It  
> is very nice, software updates download in less time than it takes  
> to actually install the software.
>
> I would strongly suggest anyone that is in a neighborhood (I'm  
> downtown) that qualifies talk to Dave about getting something this  
> fast.  It is very, very nice.
> -- 
> Jon Thompson
> jthompson@greatapetrust.org
> 515.360.1351
>
> Insights through collaborations with apes
> Great Ape Trust of Iowa
> www.greatapetrust.org
>
>
>
> On 2006, Sep 8, at 11:30 AM, Jerry Heiselman wrote:
>
>
>> Mediacom's upload speed increases if you get the 10 mbps package.  I
>> believe they make it 1 mbit, but I could be wrong there.
>>
>> USF = Universal Service Fund
>>
>> --
>> Jerry
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From djweis at internetsolver.com  Wed Sep 13 06:51:16 2006
From: djweis at internetsolver.com (Dave Weis)
Date: Wed Sep 13 06:51:26 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] new apple stuff
Message-ID: <4507F0B4.3040206@internetsolver.com>


Did I sleep through discussing this:
http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/12/live-from-the-steve-jobs-keynote-its-showtime/

the iTV is on the way!
From djweis at internetsolver.com  Wed Sep 13 06:54:43 2006
From: djweis at internetsolver.com (Dave Weis)
Date: Wed Sep 13 06:54:50 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] downloadable movies : impact on ISPs
In-Reply-To: <63D21226-E978-46F5-892F-3223E2DDA569@ecity.net>
References: <FACA6058-262E-4C9B-A450-4CEE6BE7078A@earthlink.net>	<C12700F7.38A93%jlagnese@mac.com>	<40e57b5f0609080930w1bd08be5he259aade7f9cb12e@mail.gmail.com>	<A9A0D2E7-9F6A-419D-A8C4-F42D93D9712D@mac-consultant.com>
	<63D21226-E978-46F5-892F-3223E2DDA569@ecity.net>
Message-ID: <4507F183.1000805@internetsolver.com>

Bill Davis wrote:
> Dave who?   What company sells this?

It's Dave Me. We have information on it at
http://www.internetsolver.com/dsl/premier/

It's available downtown now and in WDM and Urbandale in 1-3 months. It 
really is nice. We downloaded HD movie trailers faster than the laptop 
could decompress them.

If anyone wants more information you can email me off list.

dave


> On Sep 12, 2006, at 9:51 PM, Jon Thompson wrote:
> 
>> Dave just installed 20 Mbps at my apartment with 1 Mbps upload.  It is 
>> very nice, software updates download in less time than it takes to 
>> actually install the software.
>>
>> I would strongly suggest anyone that is in a neighborhood (I'm 
>> downtown) that qualifies talk to Dave about getting something this 
>> fast.  It is very, very nice.
>> --Jon Thompson
>> jthompson@greatapetrust.org
>> 515.360.1351
>>
>> Insights through collaborations with apes
>> Great Ape Trust of Iowa
>> www.greatapetrust.org
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2006, Sep 8, at 11:30 AM, Jerry Heiselman wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Mediacom's upload speed increases if you get the 10 mbps package.  I
>>> believe they make it 1 mbit, but I could be wrong there.
>>>
>>> USF = Universal Service Fund

From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 13 07:03:08 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Wed Sep 13 07:03:24 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] new apple stuff
In-Reply-To: <4507F0B4.3040206@internetsolver.com>
References: <4507F0B4.3040206@internetsolver.com>
Message-ID: <1A346E95-4B60-4387-A2CF-3E9D2211FE1C@earthlink.net>

Nope! It was just announced yesterday at Noon. Aside from a few  
possibly useful omissions at this early stage, such as S-video and  
FireWire, it sounds very nice. I hope they make it component sized  
(same width as other stereo components), but that's not crucial. I  
wonder if it will upconvert video to 1080i/p?

The mere fact that Apple announced it is VERY curious. I wonder if  
Steve is starting to hear the corporate drum beating (Roadmap,  
roadmap, roadmap). Funny about that... this isn't a corporate product.

Matthew

On Sep 13, 2006, at 6:51 AM, Dave Weis wrote:

>
> Did I sleep through discussing this:
> http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/12/live-from-the-steve-jobs-keynote- 
> its-showtime/
>
> the iTV is on the way!



Matthew Wheeler
Acting Vice President
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
http://www.dmmug.org





From big.smelly at gmail.com  Wed Sep 13 09:51:31 2006
From: big.smelly at gmail.com (Chris R)
Date: Wed Sep 13 09:50:59 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Meetings
Message-ID: <F2C0215F-C86F-48D7-8DA5-961E663640C7@gmail.com>

Hello
I have been on the email list for a while and posted when I needed  
help with something but have never gone to a meeting. The main reason  
for this is that I have a several year commitment to take my daughter  
to Family Fun Night at Valley West Mall. It being the last tuesday of  
the month like the DMMUG meetings. I dont know if there is anyone  
else with a small children who would attend meetings is they were a  
different tuesday. Its just something I was wondering. Thanks Chris


Better a live a live dog than a dead king

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From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Wed Sep 13 16:43:35 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Wed Sep 13 16:51:15 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] The mystery of the disappearing bookmarks
Message-ID: <p06240400c12e2be663a4@[192.168.0.12]>

I was using Safari today and early afternoon I looked up and the 
Bookmarks were gone [both on bar and in menu].  History was still 
there...I tried to use BackUp restore and also another back up copy, 
but nothing there either.  Went to .Mac Sync and nothing there [it's 
not checked to sync although I do allegedly sync it on my computers = 
I don't know what that means].

This has never happened before and I, luckily, had a several days old 
bookmark html file that I had saved, so just imported it.

But can anyone tell me why Safari Bookmarks would just disappear like 
that in the midst of the day?  The only thing I did today was: 
install iTunes 7 [I dont' recall whether I noticed the problem before 
or after] and I did have to restart...but it's odd that there would 
still be a History list [long] in the Safari but no Bookmarks all of 
a sudden.

Any ideas so I can protect myself other than just backing up.
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Discrimination & Employment Law, 
<http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> ;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  Two Rivers Festival, November 10-12th, downtown Des 
Moines.
From ragner at mchsi.com  Wed Sep 13 17:03:45 2006
From: ragner at mchsi.com (ragner@mchsi.com)
Date: Wed Sep 13 17:03:48 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] The mystery of the disappearing bookmarks
Message-ID: <091320062203.25295.45088040000DFBF3000062CF219792474103010CD2079C080C03BF9D0A02090E9D@mchsi.com>

If you click Safari->Reset Safari... (just above Empty Cache...) it will delete your bookmarks.

Could your finger have slipped?


> I was using Safari today and early afternoon I looked up and the 
> Bookmarks were gone [both on bar and in menu].  History was still 
> there...I tried to use BackUp restore and also another back up copy, 
> but nothing there either.  Went to .Mac Sync and nothing there [it's 
> not checked to sync although I do allegedly sync it on my computers = 
> I don't know what that means].
> 
> This has never happened before and I, luckily, had a several days old 
> bookmark html file that I had saved, so just imported it.
> 
> But can anyone tell me why Safari Bookmarks would just disappear like 
> that in the midst of the day?  The only thing I did today was: 
> install iTunes 7 [I dont' recall whether I noticed the problem before 
> or after] and I did have to restart...but it's odd that there would 
> still be a History list [long] in the Safari but no Bookmarks all of 
> a sudden.
> 
> Any ideas so I can protect myself other than just backing up.
> -- 
> Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Discrimination & Employment Law, 
> <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
> <http://www.JourneyZing.com> ;   Photographs at 
> http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
> Upcoming show:  Two Rivers Festival, November 10-12th, downtown Des 
> Moines.
> _______________________________________________
> Dmmug mailing list
> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
> Dmmug@dmmug.org
> Use this page to modify subscription options:
> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug
From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Wed Sep 13 17:09:41 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Wed Sep 13 17:09:49 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] The mystery of the disappearing bookmarks
In-Reply-To: <091320062203.25295.45088040000DFBF3000062CF219792474103010CD2079C080C03BF
	9D0A02090E9D@mchsi.com>
References: <091320062203.25295.45088040000DFBF3000062CF219792474103010CD2079C080C03BF
	9D0A02090E9D@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <p06240405c12e3211d59f@[192.168.0.12]>

>If you click Safari->Reset Safari... (just above Empty Cache...) it 
>will delete your bookmarks.
>
>Could your finger have slipped?
>

No...up comes a warning box and I would of course hit cancel...I 
never saw that box.
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Discrimination & Employment Law, 
<http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> ;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  Two Rivers Festival, November 10-12th, downtown Des 
Moines.
From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 13 18:08:09 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Wed Sep 13 18:08:25 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] The mystery of the disappearing bookmarks
In-Reply-To: <p06240400c12e2be663a4@[192.168.0.12]>
References: <p06240400c12e2be663a4@[192.168.0.12]>
Message-ID: <42007B8A-363D-4FFA-81DE-3BF2E9D32EAB@earthlink.net>

Now you know why having a *working* backup is very handy.

Matthew

On Sep 13, 2006, at 4:43 PM, Victoria L. Herring wrote:

>
> Any ideas so I can protect myself other than just backing up.
> -- 


Matthew Wheeler
Acting Vice President
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
http://www.dmmug.org





From asgreen at raccoon.com  Wed Sep 13 21:01:20 2006
From: asgreen at raccoon.com (Allen Green)
Date: Wed Sep 13 21:01:58 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Macintosh Service/Sales Technician Wanted
In-Reply-To: <C126E50D.AB62%alanh@mac.com>
Message-ID: <C12E2220.2300%asgreen@raccoon.com>

Alan
I've been out of town.  Do you already have this position filled?
Allen  Green

> We are looking for someone with the following talent:
> 
> Computer Service/Sales Technician
> Local Apple Specialist Haddock Computer is looking for Service/Sales
> Technicians to work on Apple Macintosh products, as well as some Windows
> computers.
> 
> We will train entry-level technicians, and/or we will assist higher level
> technicians reach their highest Apple certifications.
> 
> Position is Full-Time, Monday through Friday and is available immediately.
> 
> If someone on this list is interested please email me directly and attach
> your resume.
> 
> Thanks,
> Alan
> 
> ???? Please send mail to alan@gohaddock.com
> 
> Alan Hansen
> Haddock Computer
> 801 73rd Street, Suite I, Windsor Heights, IA 50312
> www.gohaddock.com (515) 225-9040 fax (515) 225-1264
> iChat/AIM: AlanH@mac.com
> 
> Apple Sales Specialist,  Apple Service Provider Plus, Xerox Printer Sales &
> Service, SonicWALL Sales & Networking, Promethean ACTIVboards,
> Proud member of Apple's Service, Training and Reseller Advisory Boards
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Dmmug mailing list
> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
> Dmmug@dmmug.org
> Use this page to modify subscription options:
> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug

From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Wed Sep 13 21:25:56 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Wed Sep 13 21:26:10 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] The mystery of the disappearing bookmarks
In-Reply-To: <42007B8A-363D-4FFA-81DE-3BF2E9D32EAB@earthlink.net>
References: <p06240400c12e2be663a4@[192.168.0.12]>
	<42007B8A-363D-4FFA-81DE-3BF2E9D32EAB@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <p0624040dc12e6da1cbcf@[192.168.0.12]>

>On Sep 13, 2006, at 4:43 PM, Victoria L. Herring wrote:
>
>>
>>Any ideas so I can protect myself other than just backing up.
>>--

You would think that out of all my backup sources:  Backup to iDisk, 
SuperDuper clone, iMac copy, DotMac [which I found out didn't have 
one], various zipped copies of Safari on my computer, the back up of 
the iMac...etc. after all that, I'd find one good one...fortunately 
only about a week ago I had exported an html file for Firefox to 
import, so I had something workable...I think the lesson is not only 
have daily backups but on a weekly basis, a full one just in 
case....It will be asy enough to do with Backup and the data isn't 
that huge so there's no reason...
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Discrimination & Employment Law, 
<http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> ;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  Two Rivers Festival, November 10-12th, downtown Des 
Moines.
From alan at gohaddock.com  Wed Sep 13 21:50:33 2006
From: alan at gohaddock.com (Alan Hansen)
Date: Wed Sep 13 21:51:07 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Macintosh Service/Sales Technician Wanted
In-Reply-To: <C12E2220.2300%asgreen@raccoon.com>
Message-ID: <C12E2DA9.ACC6%alan@gohaddock.com>

Nope if you are interested please give me a call Thursday and come in for an
interview.


On 9/13/06 9:01 PM, "Allen Green" <asgreen@raccoon.com> wrote:

> Alan
> I've been out of town.  Do you already have this position filled?
> Allen  Green
> 
>> We are looking for someone with the following talent:
>> 
>> Computer Service/Sales Technician
>> Local Apple Specialist Haddock Computer is looking for Service/Sales
>> Technicians to work on Apple Macintosh products, as well as some Windows
>> computers.
>> 
>> We will train entry-level technicians, and/or we will assist higher level
>> technicians reach their highest Apple certifications.
>> 
>> Position is Full-Time, Monday through Friday and is available immediately.
>> 
>> If someone on this list is interested please email me directly and attach
>> your resume.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Alan
>> 
>> ???? Please send mail to alan@gohaddock.com
>> 
>> Alan Hansen
>> Haddock Computer
>> 801 73rd Street, Suite I, Windsor Heights, IA 50312
>> www.gohaddock.com (515) 225-9040 fax (515) 225-1264
>> iChat/AIM: AlanH@mac.com
>> 
>> Apple Sales Specialist,  Apple Service Provider Plus, Xerox Printer Sales &
>> Service, SonicWALL Sales & Networking, Promethean ACTIVboards,
>> Proud member of Apple's Service, Training and Reseller Advisory Boards
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Dmmug mailing list
>> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
>> Dmmug@dmmug.org
>> Use this page to modify subscription options:
>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Dmmug mailing list
> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
> Dmmug@dmmug.org
> Use this page to modify subscription options:
> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug
> 



Thanks,
Alan

???? Please send mail to alan@gohaddock.com

Alan Hansen
Haddock Computer
801 73rd Street, Suite I, Windsor Heights, IA 50312
www.gohaddock.com (515) 225-9040 fax (515) 225-1264
iChat/AIM: AlanH@mac.com

Apple Sales Specialist,  Apple Service Provider Plus, Xerox Printer Sales &
Service, SonicWALL Sales & Networking, Promethean ACTIVboards,
Proud member of Apple's Service, Training and Reseller Advisory Boards


From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 13 22:05:42 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Wed Sep 13 22:05:47 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] The mystery of the disappearing bookmarks
In-Reply-To: <p0624040dc12e6da1cbcf@[192.168.0.12]>
References: <p06240400c12e2be663a4@[192.168.0.12]>
	<42007B8A-363D-4FFA-81DE-3BF2E9D32EAB@earthlink.net>
	<p0624040dc12e6da1cbcf@[192.168.0.12]>
Message-ID: <ED868458-6742-4893-BC29-75DC95FECC86@earthlink.net>

That's why testing a restore is so important.

Matthew

On Sep 13, 2006, at 9:25 PM, Victoria L. Herring wrote:

> You would think that out of all my backup sources:  Backup to  
> iDisk, SuperDuper clone, iMac copy, DotMac [which I found out  
> didn't have one], various zipped copies of Safari on my computer,  
> the back up of the iMac...etc. after all that, I'd find one good  
> one...fortunately only about a week ago I had exported an html file  
> for Firefox to import, so I had something workable...I think the  
> lesson is not only have daily backups but on a weekly basis, a full  
> one just in case....It will be asy enough to do with Backup and the  
> data isn't that huge so there's no reason...



Matthew Wheeler
Acting Vice President
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
http://www.dmmug.org





From asgreen at raccoon.com  Thu Sep 14 07:34:36 2006
From: asgreen at raccoon.com (Allen Green)
Date: Thu Sep 14 07:34:49 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Macintosh Service/Sales Technician Wanted
In-Reply-To: <C12E2DA9.ACC6%alan@gohaddock.com>
Message-ID: <C12EB68C.230D%asgreen@raccoon.com>

Will do in the afternoon.  Booked all morning.
Thank you.
Allen


> Nope if you are interested please give me a call Thursday and come in for an
> interview.
> 
> 
> On 9/13/06 9:01 PM, "Allen Green" <asgreen@raccoon.com> wrote:
> 
>> Alan
>> I've been out of town.  Do you already have this position filled?
>> Allen  Green
>> 
>>> We are looking for someone with the following talent:
>>> 
>>> Computer Service/Sales Technician
>>> Local Apple Specialist Haddock Computer is looking for Service/Sales
>>> Technicians to work on Apple Macintosh products, as well as some Windows
>>> computers.
>>> 
>>> We will train entry-level technicians, and/or we will assist higher level
>>> technicians reach their highest Apple certifications.
>>> 
>>> Position is Full-Time, Monday through Friday and is available immediately.
>>> 
>>> If someone on this list is interested please email me directly and attach
>>> your resume.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> ???? Please send mail to alan@gohaddock.com
>>> 
>>> Alan Hansen
>>> Haddock Computer
>>> 801 73rd Street, Suite I, Windsor Heights, IA 50312
>>> www.gohaddock.com (515) 225-9040 fax (515) 225-1264
>>> iChat/AIM: AlanH@mac.com
>>> 
>>> Apple Sales Specialist,  Apple Service Provider Plus, Xerox Printer Sales &
>>> Service, SonicWALL Sales & Networking, Promethean ACTIVboards,
>>> Proud member of Apple's Service, Training and Reseller Advisory Boards
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Dmmug mailing list
>>> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
>>> Dmmug@dmmug.org
>>> Use this page to modify subscription options:
>>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Dmmug mailing list
>> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
>> Dmmug@dmmug.org
>> Use this page to modify subscription options:
>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Alan
> 
> ???? Please send mail to alan@gohaddock.com
> 
> Alan Hansen
> Haddock Computer
> 801 73rd Street, Suite I, Windsor Heights, IA 50312
> www.gohaddock.com (515) 225-9040 fax (515) 225-1264
> iChat/AIM: AlanH@mac.com
> 
> Apple Sales Specialist,  Apple Service Provider Plus, Xerox Printer Sales &
> Service, SonicWALL Sales & Networking, Promethean ACTIVboards,
> Proud member of Apple's Service, Training and Reseller Advisory Boards
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Dmmug mailing list
> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
> Dmmug@dmmug.org
> Use this page to modify subscription options:
> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug

From alan at gohaddock.com  Thu Sep 14 07:52:16 2006
From: alan at gohaddock.com (Alan Hansen)
Date: Thu Sep 14 07:52:51 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Macintosh Service/Sales Technician Wanted
In-Reply-To: <C12EB68C.230D%asgreen@raccoon.com>
Message-ID: <C12EBAB0.ACD3%alan@gohaddock.com>

Sounds good.  Please give me a call.

Thanks,
Alan


On 9/14/06 7:34 AM, "Allen Green" <asgreen@raccoon.com> wrote:

> Will do in the afternoon.  Booked all morning.
> Thank you.
> Allen
> 
> 
>> Nope if you are interested please give me a call Thursday and come in for an
>> interview.
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/13/06 9:01 PM, "Allen Green" <asgreen@raccoon.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Alan
>>> I've been out of town.  Do you already have this position filled?
>>> Allen  Green
>>> 
>>>> We are looking for someone with the following talent:
>>>> 
>>>> Computer Service/Sales Technician
>>>> Local Apple Specialist Haddock Computer is looking for Service/Sales
>>>> Technicians to work on Apple Macintosh products, as well as some Windows
>>>> computers.
>>>> 
>>>> We will train entry-level technicians, and/or we will assist higher level
>>>> technicians reach their highest Apple certifications.
>>>> 
>>>> Position is Full-Time, Monday through Friday and is available immediately.
>>>> 
>>>> If someone on this list is interested please email me directly and attach
>>>> your resume.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Alan
>>>> 
>>>> ???? Please send mail to alan@gohaddock.com
>>>> 
>>>> Alan Hansen
>>>> Haddock Computer
>>>> 801 73rd Street, Suite I, Windsor Heights, IA 50312
>>>> www.gohaddock.com (515) 225-9040 fax (515) 225-1264
>>>> iChat/AIM: AlanH@mac.com
>>>> 
>>>> Apple Sales Specialist,  Apple Service Provider Plus, Xerox Printer Sales &
>>>> Service, SonicWALL Sales & Networking, Promethean ACTIVboards,
>>>> Proud member of Apple's Service, Training and Reseller Advisory Boards
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Dmmug mailing list
>>>> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
>>>> Dmmug@dmmug.org
>>>> Use this page to modify subscription options:
>>>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Dmmug mailing list
>>> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
>>> Dmmug@dmmug.org
>>> Use this page to modify subscription options:
>>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Alan
>> 
>> ???? Please send mail to alan@gohaddock.com
>> 
>> Alan Hansen
>> Haddock Computer
>> 801 73rd Street, Suite I, Windsor Heights, IA 50312
>> www.gohaddock.com (515) 225-9040 fax (515) 225-1264
>> iChat/AIM: AlanH@mac.com
>> 
>> Apple Sales Specialist,  Apple Service Provider Plus, Xerox Printer Sales &
>> Service, SonicWALL Sales & Networking, Promethean ACTIVboards,
>> Proud member of Apple's Service, Training and Reseller Advisory Boards
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Dmmug mailing list
>> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
>> Dmmug@dmmug.org
>> Use this page to modify subscription options:
>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Dmmug mailing list
> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
> Dmmug@dmmug.org
> Use this page to modify subscription options:
> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug
> 



Thanks,
Alan

???? Please send mail to alan@gohaddock.com

Alan Hansen
Haddock Computer
801 73rd Street, Suite I, Windsor Heights, IA 50312
www.gohaddock.com (515) 225-9040 fax (515) 225-1264
iChat/AIM: AlanH@mac.com

Apple Sales Specialist,  Apple Service Provider Plus, Xerox Printer Sales &
Service, SonicWALL Sales & Networking, Promethean ACTIVboards,
Proud member of Apple's Service, Training and Reseller Advisory Boards


From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Thu Sep 14 08:55:15 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Thu Sep 14 08:55:30 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Macintosh Service/Sales Technician Wanted
In-Reply-To: <C12EB68C.230D%asgreen@raccoon.com>
References: <C12EB68C.230D%asgreen@raccoon.com>
Message-ID: <1004EEB0-0100-4A62-A0C2-149E0934B6BE@earthlink.net>

This sort of communication should to be accomplished off-list,  
please. Use 'Reply to Sender' in your mail app instead of replying to  
the list.

Thank you,
Matthew


On Sep 14, 2006, at 7:34 AM, Allen Green wrote:

> Will do in the afternoon.  Booked all morning.
> Thank you.
> Allen
>
>
>> Nope if you are interested please give me a call Thursday and come  
>> in for an
>> interview.



Matthew Wheeler
Acting Vice President
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
http://www.dmmug.org





From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Fri Sep 15 10:53:04 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Fri Sep 15 10:53:48 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Mail Tags and Mail Act On
Message-ID: <p06240414c1307cc0b560@[192.168.0.12]>

>
>
>My computer tech, Allen Hancock, introduced me to Mail Act 
>On...basically a quick key way to apply a rule to an email. For 
>example, quickly assign a key to move selected mail to a particular 
>matter/file folder that you have set up.   Great app....and very nice 
>if you are on a latop...avoid using the mouse.
>
>They also offer a new beta program called MailTags...I installed it 
>and it works very well considering it is beta. When you are reading 
>an email, a tag icon appears on the upper right side of message. 
>Click on it and several options appear, e.g. flag it and apply a 
>keywork or project category.  The coolest feature is the iCal 
>feature...click on tag and immediately turn an email into a "to do" 
>in iCal, with due date, priority and notes...if necessary, copy and 
>past the contents of the email into notes.  Your message has now been 
>turned into a calendar item on the fly.
>
>MailTags is out now...but apparently these types of features will be 
>added to Leopard when it comes out next year.
>
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/2648 -- freeware
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Discrimination & Employment Law, 
<http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> ;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  Two Rivers Festival, November 10-12th, downtown Des 
Moines.
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From darcybaston at mac.com  Fri Sep 15 18:08:20 2006
From: darcybaston at mac.com (Darcy Baston)
Date: Fri Sep 15 18:08:23 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] The Real Windows Vista
Message-ID: <9973681.1158361700457.JavaMail.darcybaston@mac.com>

I found this on Youtube. It's so funny, I had to share.

A clever Mac user took audio bits of a speaker talking about Windows Vista, and put it in the background of video footage of using OS X. What's funny is how well the Windows Vista speech describes the well established OS X experience.

Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QdGt3ix2CQ&mode=related&search=

Darcy
From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Mon Sep 18 09:59:20 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Mon Sep 18 10:02:33 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Lexmark printing problems
Message-ID: <p0624041bc13464a26558@[192.168.1.2]>


I have my G5 that was doing just fine then I went to print something
on the weekend and it wont' print
I have reparied prefs, restarted several times, downloaded and
installed new drivers, turned the printer on and off several times
and run Printer set up utility several times...it will let me 'see'
it by IP address but wont' print to it.  Any ideas before I call the
Lexmark service guys [$$]??  Machine works fine otherwise.  Router is
fine = machine is connected by ethernet to the router to the network,
btw., but Appletalk doesn't pick it up, just IP addressing.


It is not printing from both the G5 and the iMac but it copies...and 
it shows up in the browser, so I know there is communication.
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Discrimination & Employment Law, 
<http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> ;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  Two Rivers Festival, November 10-12th, downtown Des 
Moines.
From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Mon Sep 18 11:58:22 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Mon Sep 18 11:58:39 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Lexmark printing problems
In-Reply-To: <p0624041bc13464a26558@[192.168.1.2]>
References: <p0624041bc13464a26558@[192.168.1.2]>
Message-ID: <0E2515B2-C63E-4292-9F3E-175D08698067@earthlink.net>

The fact that neither Mac can print to it leads me to believe it's a  
fault in the Lexmark. Have you tried unplugging it for about 15  
minutes and then resetting the Lexmark from its menu. Maybe reset to  
defaults and then assign a new IP and see if it works.

Then try your luck with India.

Matthew

On Sep 18, 2006, at 9:59 AM, Victoria L. Herring wrote:

>
> I have my G5 that was doing just fine then I went to print something
> on the weekend and it wont' print
> I have reparied prefs, restarted several times, downloaded and
> installed new drivers, turned the printer on and off several times
> and run Printer set up utility several times...it will let me 'see'
> it by IP address but wont' print to it.  Any ideas before I call the
> Lexmark service guys [$$]??  Machine works fine otherwise.  Router is
> fine = machine is connected by ethernet to the router to the network,
> btw., but Appletalk doesn't pick it up, just IP addressing.
>
>
> It is not printing from both the G5 and the iMac but it  
> copies...and it shows up in the browser, so I know there is  
> communication.
> -- 
> Victoria L. Herring

Matthew Wheeler
Acting Vice President
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
http://www.dmmug.org





From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Mon Sep 18 13:35:26 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Mon Sep 18 13:35:37 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Lexmark printing problems
In-Reply-To: <0E2515B2-C63E-4292-9F3E-175D08698067@earthlink.net>
References: <p0624041bc13464a26558@[192.168.1.2]>
	<0E2515B2-C63E-4292-9F3E-175D08698067@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <p06240405c1349732b4e7@[192.168.1.2]>

>The fact that neither Mac can print to it leads me to believe it's a 
>fault in the Lexmark. Have you tried unplugging it for about 15 
>minutes and then resetting the Lexmark from its menu. Maybe reset to 
>defaults and then assign a new IP and see if it works.
>
>Then try your luck with India.

ugh!

I think you're right == esp. since I reinstalled OSX and restarted 
and checked IP and etc....nothing works.  Advanced Network Tech. here 
in town installed new board in it in April so let's hope that is the 
problem or a fix at least...I'd hate to call India!
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Discrimination & Employment Law, 
<http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> ;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  Two Rivers Festival, November 10-12th, downtown Des 
Moines.
From BONISTEWA at aol.com  Mon Sep 18 14:24:18 2006
From: BONISTEWA at aol.com (BONISTEWA@aol.com)
Date: Mon Sep 18 14:24:38 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Lexmark printing problems
Message-ID: <372.9c47d38.32404c62@aol.com>

Good afternoon -
I just joined your group and am hoping to learn from it.
I have to tell you my experience with my Lexmark which was given
away to a PC user after many frustrating telephone calls to Lexmark 
with them saying it was an Apple problem and then many telephone 
calls to Apple saying it was a Lexmark problem. NO one could figure 
it out and I tried EVERYTHING.
I hooked it up to my friend's computer and it has worked great from
the start.
I have another friend who tried to hook her iMac up to a Lexmark and
the same issue . . . she took it back to the store and hopefully a Dell
user is happy with it!
NO more Lexmarks for me . . . sorry I couldn't help . . . I just wanted
to vent!

Nita
WDSM
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From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Mon Sep 18 14:34:59 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Mon Sep 18 14:36:39 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Lexmark printing problems
In-Reply-To: <372.9c47d38.32404c62@aol.com>
References: <372.9c47d38.32404c62@aol.com>
Message-ID: <p06240409c134a50af389@[192.168.1.2]>

Agreed, but when it works, it works.  And really has not been down 
all athat much - a new board was put in and I'm willing to bet it  is 
on the fritz for the reasons Matt said.  Repair guy is coming WEd. 
And if it can't be fixed, then it's onto another printer....but not 
just yet!  And I'm not going to call Lexmark = tried that before, 
uselessly!  :)


>Good afternoon -
>I just joined your group and am hoping to learn from it.
>I have to tell you my experience with my Lexmark which was given
>away to a PC user after many frustrating telephone calls to Lexmark
>with them saying it was an Apple problem and then many telephone
>calls to Apple saying it was a Lexmark problem. NO one could figure
>it out and I tried EVERYTHING.
>I hooked it up to my friend's computer and it has worked great from
>the start.
>I have another friend who tried to hook her iMac up to a Lexmark and
>the same issue . . . she took it back to the store and hopefully a Dell
>user is happy with it!
>NO more Lexmarks for me . . . sorry I couldn't help . . . I just wanted
>to vent!
>
>Nita
>WDSM

-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Discrimination & Employment Law, 
<http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> ;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  Two Rivers Festival, November 10-12th, downtown Des 
Moines.
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From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Mon Sep 18 15:35:18 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Mon Sep 18 15:35:35 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] DM-MUG Meeting Reminder - September 26th
Message-ID: <AC235CED-BE9E-4398-82D2-74987B7CD61F@earthlink.net>

I'm looking forward to the 4th Tuesday of September, the 26th. For  
those keeping track that's next week [already]! We'll be gathering  
together to talk of all things Mac including a demo by Alan Hansen of  
the Promethean White Board. I took a look at their Web site and it  
looks intriguing. See for yourself here: <http:// 
www.prometheanworld.com/>. Come see and bring your own questions.

So, here are the particulars:

What:
DM-MUG meeting

When:
Tuesday September 26, 2006 @ 7:00 PM

Where:
Haddock Computer
801 73rd Street
Suite 1
Windsor Heights IA 50312
USA

Why:
Promethean White Board demo: Alan Hansen
Hobnob with us and talk Mac shop.

Yet again, the updated major topics list through partial 1st Quarter  
2007:

Sept 26 	Promethean White Board demo: Alan Hansen
Oct 24 	Beyond Microsoft Word: John Kisner
Nov 28 	Digital Storytelling with a Mac: Holly Welch
December?No meeting
Jan 23 	Aperture, Pro-Am photography on a Mac: Victoria Herring
Feb 27	Shareware/Freeware round-up: Bailey Ford

Reason to use a Mac #1: <http://www.eweek.com/ 
category2/0,1874,1252525,00.asp>


Matthew Wheeler
-- iVP --
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
http://www.dmmug.org





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From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Mon Sep 18 19:38:34 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Mon Sep 18 19:40:20 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] REinstall of OS = What to do with PreviousSystem
Message-ID: <p06240413c134ec83748a@[192.168.1.2]>

I did an OS reinstall and software update etc. but now have a number 
of preference panes [e.g. Windowshade, SErvices etc.] that are in the 
PreviousSystem not the 'new' system == my assumption is that I cannot 
just click and drag back to the PrefPanes area of Library but just 
thought I'd ask = I am assuming I need to redownload and restall???
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Discrimination & Employment Law, 
<http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> ;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  Two Rivers Festival, November 10-12th, downtown Des 
Moines.
From BONISTEWA at aol.com  Mon Sep 18 21:53:53 2006
From: BONISTEWA at aol.com (BONISTEWA@aol.com)
Date: Mon Sep 18 21:54:14 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Forbes-Goopple?  Apple & Gogle . . .
Message-ID: <51b.7719fb1.3240b5c1@aol.com>

Goopple?
Rachel Rosmarin, 09.18.06, 5:55 PM ET

Burlingame, Calif. -
 No one does a better job of getting the tech and business press chattering 
than Apple Computer 
boss Steve Jobs, who revels in putting on highly anticipated, carefully 
choreographed performances where he hypes new products.
But some of the loudest buzzing at Apple's Sept. 12 event, where Apple 
unveiled its new home 
video strategy, started up before Jobs ever took the stage: A throng of 
reporters waiting to get into the San Francisco theater Apple had rented for the 
day saw Marrisa Mayer, Google's 
mediagenic vice president of search products, wander into the event.
That was it. Mayer didn't say a word to the press, and she didn't appear on 
stage with Jobs. But Mayer's appearance at an Apple event would be big news 
under normal circumstances: She is one of Google's highest-profile executives, 
and doesn't need to travel from the company's Mountain View headquarters to get 
an update on new iPods.
And since Google Chief Executive Eric Schmidt had joined Apple?s board of 
directors two weeks earlier, it was easy enough for bored reporters to speculate 
about what the two companies might be up to. Google and Apple aren't complete 
strangers: Prior to Schmidt's move, the two already shared Genentech Chief 
Executive Arthur Levinson as a board member, and Google is already the default 
search engine on Apple?s Safari browser. But what new deals, products and 
services could the two tech giants be talking about?
Conversations have already begun, according to Newsweek, which reported this 
week that Google and Apple are discussing some sort of video deal. Google's 
current video offering consists of some copyrighted material from outlets such 
as CBS and a host of "user-generated" clips, while Apple sells music videos, 
television shows and now movies via its iTunes store. Next year the company will 
begin selling its "iTV" box designed to port content from PCs to television 
screens.
Apple representatives didn't respond to requests for comment, while Google 
issued a non-statement statement: "We have a great relationship with Apple and 
are always excited to see innovation in this field but have nothing to announce 
at this time."
It makes sense for Google to want to find additional outlets for its video 
clips, and it's hard to see the downside for Apple in expanding its iTunes store 
to include the kind of quirky, viral stuff that flourishes on Google and 
other video sites like YouTube. The obvious connections end there, though: Apple 
is headed for consumers' living rooms, where it is betting they will pay up to 
get high-quality television and films beamed directly from the Internet to 
their TV. And it's hard to see much demand for grainy home-brewed video projected 
on expensive flat screens.
Yet Google-Apple corporate inbreeding could spawn other profitable ventures. 
One much-discussed outcome is the plumping of Apple?s iTunes store revenue 
with an advertising deal powered by Google?s vast ad inventory.
While the music and video store is a success, its revenue was down 6% in the 
company?s third quarter to $457 million. And a new study from Jupiter Research 
suggests the store isn?t necessarily the happy home of every iPod owner--83% 
of iPod owners in Europe do not buy digital music regularly, according to the 
report. On an average iPod, only 5% of music comes from legal online 
purchases.
Nonetheless, the iTunes store represents prime online advertising space, says 
analyst Michael Gartenberg. "It wouldn?t surprise me if Google wanted to get 
into that--and Apple may want to monetize that traffic flow beyond just the 
sales of songs. I suspect these two companies are in talks on many different 
levels."
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From darcybaston at mac.com  Mon Sep 18 22:34:06 2006
From: darcybaston at mac.com (Darcy Baston)
Date: Mon Sep 18 22:34:14 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] REinstall of OS = What to do with PreviousSystem
In-Reply-To: <p06240413c134ec83748a@[192.168.1.2]>
References: <p06240413c134ec83748a@[192.168.1.2]>
Message-ID: <D70397E5-681F-40DE-8443-835317A8562A@mac.com>

I've had to deal with that before. For some apps, dragging the Pref  
panes back into the user library is all you have to do, but I think  
that's the minority. For others, you have to restore the app's folder  
from the previous /users/yourname/library/application support among  
other things. Unsanity apps like Windowshade use a layer of software  
called Application Enhancer. I think that does something closer to  
the system that I don't know how to restore manually.

I think you should reinstall, and then try to move prefs files back  
over, but this can be touchy if the new os install you did uses a  
different user name than before (affects paths to /Users/username).  
Nothing safer than starting completely fresh. :)

Darcy

On Sep 18, 2006, at 7:38 PM, Victoria L. Herring wrote:

I did an OS reinstall and software update etc. but now have a number  
of preference panes [e.g. Windowshade, SErvices etc.] that are in the  
PreviousSystem not the 'new' system == my assumption is that I cannot  
just click and drag back to the PrefPanes area of Library but just  
thought I'd ask = I am assuming I need to redownload and restall???
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Discrimination & Employment Law,  
<http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, <http:// 
www.JourneyZing.com> ;   Photographs at http:// 
victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. Upcoming  
show:  Two Rivers Festival, November 10-12th, downtown Des Moines.
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From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Thu Sep 21 12:40:56 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Thu Sep 21 12:41:04 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Alsoft Tech Support Praise
References: <20060921151847.12783@mail.alsoft.com>
Message-ID: <05E1650C-7016-42C8-9F6D-BC2FB1A62B5F@earthlink.net>

I've dealt with a lot of companies support departments. Alsoft  
delivered one gem recently that I wanted to share with the list. It's  
the last response to a multiple question e-mail that we'd been  
passing back-and-forth for the last week. Not only is the information  
useful to potential buyers of the software (saving me two purchases  
at their expense), but indicative of their attention to detail  
(answering ALL of my questions in the e-mail), and overall  
helpfulness. As you may be able to tell, I'm a big fan.


Begin forwarded message:

> Hi Matthew--
>
> You have updated the DiskWarrior (revision 30) CD as opposed to the
> (revision 32) CD.  This is why your updated DiskWarrior CD does not  
> start
> up your PowerBook.  Please find the other CD, use the Get Info  
> command to
> look for a disk that says "32" in the comments field, and create a new
> updated disk.
>
> The same issue is at play here with your father's DiskWarrior CD.  The
> disk he has (according to the serial number) is not a revision 32 (or
> higher) CD - which would contain the necessary operating system to  
> start
> up this laptop.
>
> While an Update CD (revision 39) with the latest startup System  
> (Mac OS X
> 10.4.x "Tiger") and DiskWarrior 3.0.3 is available, I would suggest
> waiting a couple of weeks as the Intel version is in the final  
> stages of
> testing.
>
> In that regard, the updated version will be a Universal Binary -  
> thus it
> will be one version of the software for both PowerPC and Intel  
> machines.
>
> Thanks for understanding that we take our time and do our own beta
> testing rather than releasing a product that is not yet finished.
>
> -- Marc
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Marc Moorash, Alsoft Technical Support
> Email:  tech.support@alsoft.com
>



Matthew Wheeler
-- iVP --
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
http://www.dmmug.org





From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Thu Sep 21 14:51:47 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Thu Sep 21 14:55:55 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Alsoft Tech Support Praise
In-Reply-To: <05E1650C-7016-42C8-9F6D-BC2FB1A62B5F@earthlink.net>
References: <20060921151847.12783@mail.alsoft.com>
	<05E1650C-7016-42C8-9F6D-BC2FB1A62B5F@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <p0624044fc1389dc08d06@[192.168.1.2]>

I'm glad to hear about the Diskwarrior update = and the positive 
service experience...
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
planning & Photography, <http://www.JourneyZing.com>;  Des Moines, 
Iowa, ph.515-255-4475.
From rbowler at mchsi.com  Thu Sep 21 16:31:32 2006
From: rbowler at mchsi.com (Ray Bowler)
Date: Thu Sep 21 16:31:40 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Alsoft Tech Support Praise
In-Reply-To: <05E1650C-7016-42C8-9F6D-BC2FB1A62B5F@earthlink.net>
References: <20060921151847.12783@mail.alsoft.com>
	<05E1650C-7016-42C8-9F6D-BC2FB1A62B5F@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <p0624061ec138b504f005@[10.0.1.3]>

That kind of response is what  I have come to expect from Alsoft 
which is one reason I am also a big fan of theirs.


At 12:40 PM -0500 9/21/06, Matthew W. wrote:
>I've dealt with a lot of companies support departments. Alsoft 
>delivered one gem recently that I wanted to share with the list. 
>It's the last response to a multiple question e-mail that we'd been 
>passing back-and-forth for the last week. Not only is the 
>information useful to potential buyers of the software (saving me 
>two purchases at their expense), but indicative of their attention 
>to detail (answering ALL of my questions in the e-mail), and overall 
>helpfulness. As you may be able to tell, I'm a big fan.
>
>
>Begin forwarded message:
>
>>Hi Matthew--
>>
>>You have updated the DiskWarrior (revision 30) CD as opposed to the
>>(revision 32) CD.  This is why your updated DiskWarrior CD does not start
>>up your PowerBook.  Please find the other CD, use the Get Info command to
>>look for a disk that says "32" in the comments field, and create a new
>>updated disk.
>>
>>The same issue is at play here with your father's DiskWarrior CD.  The
>>disk he has (according to the serial number) is not a revision 32 (or
>>higher) CD - which would contain the necessary operating system to start
>>up this laptop.
>>
>>While an Update CD (revision 39) with the latest startup System (Mac OS X
>>10.4.x "Tiger") and DiskWarrior 3.0.3 is available, I would suggest
>>waiting a couple of weeks as the Intel version is in the final stages of
>>testing.
>>
>>In that regard, the updated version will be a Universal Binary - thus it
>>will be one version of the software for both PowerPC and Intel machines.
>>
>>Thanks for understanding that we take our time and do our own beta
>>testing rather than releasing a product that is not yet finished.
>>
>>-- Marc
>>
>>
>>
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>Marc Moorash, Alsoft Technical Support
>>Email:  tech.support@alsoft.com
>>
>
>
>
>Matthew Wheeler
>-- iVP --
>Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
>http://www.dmmug.org
>
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Dmmug mailing list
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-- 
Ray Bowler

rbowler.home.mchsi.com
From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Sun Sep 24 14:35:29 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Sun Sep 24 14:35:44 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Old ink cartridges
Message-ID: <F60B7DF8-8E0B-4E53-A2E5-55972C441CC2@earthlink.net>

I'm collecting old ink and toner cartridges for a school donation. If  
anyone would have any available for donation, please contact me off- 
list. I could also pick them up at the next meeting (this Tuesday!).

Thanks!


Matthew
Maccelerate@earthlink.net


From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Sun Sep 24 17:49:41 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Sun Sep 24 18:04:02 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] iMac G5 won't mount LaCie 500G external HD
Message-ID: <p06240409c13cbbfa3e26@[192.168.1.2]>

Firewire HD, used to work fine but noticed today it wasn't on desktop 
so checked everything out and switched cables and repaired permiss. 
and restarted and the plugged it back into the iMac and the only 
thing I can hear now is a very faint clip-clip-clip - sort of like 
faint druming of fingers or horses clip clopping along -- using FW 
400 cable ==  but then I plugged it into my G5 and it sounds like 
it's coming up as usual and it mounted right up.  Using FW 800 cable

why would this happen and what can/should I do???  The iMacG5 seems 
to be fine otherwise and it doesn't get hard use really...it is, of 
course, covered by AppleCare if need be.  But only this drive seems 
to be having a problem.
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
planning & Photography, <http://www.JourneyZing.com>;  Des Moines, 
Iowa, ph.515-255-4475.
From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Sun Sep 24 18:14:46 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Sun Sep 24 18:14:56 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] iMac G5 won't mount LaCie 500G external HD
In-Reply-To: <p06240409c13cbbfa3e26@[192.168.1.2]>
References: <p06240409c13cbbfa3e26@[192.168.1.2]>
Message-ID: <p0624040bc13cc1ac93d2@[192.168.1.2]>

>Firewire HD, used to work fine but noticed today it wasn't on 
>desktop so checked everything out and switched cables and repaired 
>permiss. and restarted and the plugged it back into the iMac and the 
>only thing I can hear now is a very faint clip-clip-clip - sort of 
>like faint druming of fingers or horses clip clopping along -- using 
>FW 400 cable ==  but then I plugged it into my G5 and it sounds like 
>it's coming up as usual and it mounted right up.  Using FW 800 cable
>
>why would this happen and what can/should I do???  The iMacG5 seems 
>to be fine otherwise and it doesn't get hard use really...it is, of 
>course, covered by AppleCare if need be.  But only this drive seems 
>to be having a problem.


amending == another drive did too = so I think the FW ports are 
failing = both of them, since I tried both of them and changing 
cables and different FW drives and there was only a clippity clop 
sound inside the FW HD when they were plugged in
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
planning & Photography, <http://www.JourneyZing.com>;  Des Moines, 
Iowa, ph.515-255-4475.
From rbowler at mchsi.com  Mon Sep 25 14:41:17 2006
From: rbowler at mchsi.com (Ray Bowler)
Date: Mon Sep 25 14:41:21 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] USB printer
Message-ID: <p06240606c13ddf42ba2d@[10.0.1.3]>

Hi,

I have a problem and a possible reason for it which I would like to 
have someone tell me I am wrong. I tried to print to my wife"s 
printer connected to her iBook and it would not print. I tried a 
couple of things and couldn't make it work until I switched USB ports 
with her Kensington Turbo Mouse. Now the printer would work but not 
the mouse. That seems to mean that the printer and cable are fine but 
not the port. I would have a hard time paying to replace the 
port(logic board?) if is is dead. a work around would be a USB hub. 
Is my analysis right?

-- 
Ray Bowler

rbowler.home.mchsi.com
From kickfire at i-rule.net  Mon Sep 25 14:46:36 2006
From: kickfire at i-rule.net (kickfire@i-rule.net)
Date: Mon Sep 25 14:57:48 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] USB printer
In-Reply-To: <p06240606c13ddf42ba2d@[10.0.1.3]>
References: <p06240606c13ddf42ba2d@[10.0.1.3]>
Message-ID: <60EF4E0B-37FF-4622-BCCD-E6423D2D1915@i-rule.net>

My guess would be the power required from the port. make sure you get  
a powered usb port.

dave


On Sep 25, 2006, at 2:41 PM, Ray Bowler wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a problem and a possible reason for it which I would like to  
> have someone tell me I am wrong. I tried to print to my wife"s  
> printer connected to her iBook and it would not print. I tried a  
> couple of things and couldn't make it work until I switched USB  
> ports with her Kensington Turbo Mouse. Now the printer would work  
> but not the mouse. That seems to mean that the printer and cable  
> are fine but not the port. I would have a hard time paying to  
> replace the port(logic board?) if is is dead. a work around would  
> be a USB hub. Is my analysis right?
>
> -- 
> Ray Bowler
>
> rbowler.home.mchsi.com
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From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Mon Sep 25 17:33:00 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Mon Sep 25 17:33:18 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] USB printer
In-Reply-To: <60EF4E0B-37FF-4622-BCCD-E6423D2D1915@i-rule.net>
References: <p06240606c13ddf42ba2d@[10.0.1.3]>
	<60EF4E0B-37FF-4622-BCCD-E6423D2D1915@i-rule.net>
Message-ID: <2BEEA745-81B1-498C-BCFB-0240694E32BA@earthlink.net>

But neither a mouse nor a printer require a powered port, that's why  
mice work on keyboards. Apple keyboards are not powered USB hubs.  
Sounds like a dead port to me. A hub might be a good solution.

Mw

On Sep 25, 2006, at 2:46 PM, kickfire@i-rule.net wrote:

> My guess would be the power required from the port. make sure you  
> get a powered usb port.
>
> dave
>
>
> On Sep 25, 2006, at 2:41 PM, Ray Bowler wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a problem and a possible reason for it which I would like  
>> to have someone tell me I am wrong. I tried to print to my wife"s  
>> printer connected to her iBook and it would not print. I tried a  
>> couple of things and couldn't make it work until I switched USB  
>> ports with her Kensington Turbo Mouse. Now the printer would work  
>> but not the mouse. That seems to mean that the printer and cable  
>> are fine but not the port. I would have a hard time paying to  
>> replace the port(logic board?) if is is dead. a work around would  
>> be a USB hub. Is my analysis right?
>>
>> -- 
>> Ray Bowler
>>
>> rbowler.home.mchsi.com
From cwsmith at mchsi.com  Mon Sep 25 20:04:18 2006
From: cwsmith at mchsi.com (CW Smith)
Date: Mon Sep 25 20:04:23 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] USB printer
In-Reply-To: <p06240606c13ddf42ba2d@[10.0.1.3]>
Message-ID: <C13DE6C2.1446%cwsmith@mchsi.com>

On 9/25/06 2:41 PM, "Ray Bowler" <rbowler@mchsi.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have a problem and a possible reason for it which I would like to
> have someone tell me I am wrong. I tried to print to my wife"s
> printer connected to her iBook and it would not print. I tried a
> couple of things and couldn't make it work until I switched USB ports
> with her Kensington Turbo Mouse. Now the printer would work but not
> the mouse. That seems to mean that the printer and cable are fine but
> not the port. I would have a hard time paying to replace the
> port(logic board?) if is is dead. a work around would be a USB hub.
> Is my analysis right?


I'm sure you've tried all these, but it never hurts to ask:


Are the non-working devices "seen" under Apple System Profiler?

Any foreign objects or materials (lint, dust, Dr Pepper) stuck inside the
port?

Is the port loose at all?

Anything change after a restart? After repairing permissions?

Have you run TechTool Pro or some other diagnostic application?

This does sound like a logic board issue, though. Any chance it's covered
under AppleCare? Or a recall? Or a replacement program?.


-- 

Curt (CW) Smith
   Musician
   Audio / Video technician
   Windows / Macintosh consultant

705 Maple Street
Atlantic, Iowa 50022 USA

Phone:  (712) 243-1200
Mobile: (712) 254-0930

cwsmith@mchsi.com (home)
cwsmith7@gmail.com (music)
winmactech@mchsi.com (technical)

http://cwsmith.spymac.com


From rbowler at mchsi.com  Tue Sep 26 02:07:06 2006
From: rbowler at mchsi.com (Ray Bowler)
Date: Tue Sep 26 02:07:17 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] USB printer--fixed(so far)
In-Reply-To: <C13DE6C2.1446%cwsmith@mchsi.com>
References: <C13DE6C2.1446%cwsmith@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <p06240607c13e80f8a0c1@[10.0.1.3]>

Curt,

Thanks for the solution--see the comments.


At 8:04 PM -0500 9/25/06, CW Smith wrote:
>On 9/25/06 2:41 PM, "Ray Bowler" <rbowler@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
>>  Hi,
>>
>>  I have a problem and a possible reason for it which I would like to
>  > have someone tell me I am wrong.
>
>
>I'm sure you've tried all these, but it never hurts to ask:
>
>
>Are the non-working devices "seen" under Apple System Profiler?

The USB showed what was plugged into the second port but not the first one. .

>Any foreign objects or materials (lint, dust, Dr Pepper) stuck inside the
>port?
>
>Is the port loose at all?

Clean port and not loose.


>Anything change after a restart? After repairing permissions?

Just repaired permission yesterday

BUT-a restart fixed it.


-- 
Ray Bowler

rbowler.home.mchsi.com
From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Tue Sep 26 11:10:32 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Tue Sep 26 11:11:09 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Meeting Reminder - September 26th - Today
Message-ID: <2CC3D23B-23D1-4EEF-8B3E-BB6EF582BA0D@earthlink.net>

What:
DM-MUG meeting

When:
Tuesday September 26, 2006 @ 7:00 PM

Where:
Haddock Computer
801 73rd Street
Suite 1
Windsor Heights IA 50312
USA

Why:
Promethean White Board demo: Alan Hansen
Hobnob with us and talk Mac shop.

Another reason to use a Mac: <http://www.electronista.com/articles/ 
06/09/25/vista.wga.plague/>

Matthew Wheeler
-- iVP --
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
http://www.dmmug.org





From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Tue Sep 26 21:34:53 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Tue Sep 26 21:35:08 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] iMac G5 won't mount LaCie 500G external HD
In-Reply-To: <p0624040bc13cc1ac93d2@[192.168.1.2]>
References: <p06240409c13cbbfa3e26@[192.168.1.2]>
	<p0624040bc13cc1ac93d2@[192.168.1.2]>
Message-ID: <p06240401c13f93c7d47b@[192.168.1.2]>

I think I have the answer...AppleStore did all their overnight 
diagnostics and other things and couldn't replicate the problem so I 
brought everything home [they had even tested the LaCie and it worked 
fine there...must be magic vibes]...LaCie would not start up or mount 
on the iMacG5 but when I carried it over to another place and used 
those cables to connect to G5, it did start up when I first connected 
the power...so I thought, maybe it was the powerbrick.  So I switched 
the powerbricks for the LaCie and connected the 'new' one over at the 
iMac and it powered right up [I had switched out the brick part only, 
not cable too] then I hooked up the FW and it went onto the desktop.

It is, apparently, the power brick adapter itself [a LaCie brick] 
that is bad...the light lights up so you think it's fine but it's not 
sending enough power to the LaCie [despite having one of those little 
knobbie things on the plug end that I thought let it have more 
power...

mystery maybe solved....thank goodness
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
planning & Photography, <http://www.JourneyZing.com>;  Des Moines, 
Iowa, ph.515-255-4475.
From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 27 12:53:51 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Wed Sep 27 12:54:07 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] iMac G5 won't mount LaCie 500G external HD
In-Reply-To: <p06240401c13f93c7d47b@[192.168.1.2]>
References: <p06240409c13cbbfa3e26@[192.168.1.2]>
	<p0624040bc13cc1ac93d2@[192.168.1.2]>
	<p06240401c13f93c7d47b@[192.168.1.2]>
Message-ID: <ADBA6E0A-75A8-4197-A388-C51427E07089@earthlink.net>

I've read about this. Apparently, the light on the drive is coming  
from the FW bus power. Try connecting it *without* the power  
connected at all. It might light up, but should not actually work.  
Some drive vendors indicate incorrect power with a different color  
LED. OWC Elite cases come to mind.

Matthew

On Sep 26, 2006, at 9:34 PM, Victoria L. Herring wrote:

> It is, apparently, the power brick adapter itself [a LaCie brick]  
> that is bad...the light lights up so you think it's fine but it's  
> not sending enough power to the LaCie [despite having one of those  
> little knobbie things on the plug end that I thought let it have  
> more power...



Matthew Wheeler
-- iVP --
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
http://www.dmmug.org





From wmbrainiac at mac.com  Wed Sep 27 15:58:08 2006
From: wmbrainiac at mac.com (John Eller)
Date: Wed Sep 27 15:58:18 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] iowa apple rep for education?
In-Reply-To: <p06240401c13f93c7d47b@[192.168.1.2]>
References: <p06240409c13cbbfa3e26@[192.168.1.2]>
	<p0624040bc13cc1ac93d2@[192.168.1.2]>
	<p06240401c13f93c7d47b@[192.168.1.2]>
Message-ID: <D3A291F3-2F77-43DE-B6FB-279802BDF32A@mac.com>


with a new superintendent, it might be time to make another run at  
the des moines schools to re-open their system to dual platform  
support .

can someone put me in touch with an appropriate apple rep?
i have some suggestions.

thanks.

http://forums.maccentral.com/wwwthreads/showflat.php? 
Cat=&Board=general&Number=860291&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=14&part=1&v 
c=1
From ballstadt at mac.com  Wed Sep 27 16:02:41 2006
From: ballstadt at mac.com (Travis Ballstadt)
Date: Wed Sep 27 16:02:54 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] iowa apple rep for education?
In-Reply-To: <D3A291F3-2F77-43DE-B6FB-279802BDF32A@mac.com>
References: <p06240409c13cbbfa3e26@[192.168.1.2]>
	<p0624040bc13cc1ac93d2@[192.168.1.2]>
	<p06240401c13f93c7d47b@[192.168.1.2]>
	<D3A291F3-2F77-43DE-B6FB-279802BDF32A@mac.com>
Message-ID: <A3699924-6F20-469C-BAB7-E9C4BC84CF53@mac.com>

I'll forward your email to him.


On Sep 27, 2006, at 3:58 PM, John Eller wrote:

>
> with a new superintendent, it might be time to make another run at  
> the des moines schools to re-open their system to dual platform  
> support .
>
> can someone put me in touch with an appropriate apple rep?
> i have some suggestions.
>
> thanks.
>
> http://forums.maccentral.com/wwwthreads/showflat.php? 
> Cat=&Board=general&Number=860291&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=14&part=1 
> &vc=1
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travis ballstadt
thrillcat editorial
1120 mulberry street
suite 203
des moines, ia  50309

travis@thrillcateditorial.com
515.313.1971

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From hfwelch at mac.com  Wed Sep 27 16:02:57 2006
From: hfwelch at mac.com (Holly Welch)
Date: Wed Sep 27 16:03:05 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] iowa apple rep for education?
In-Reply-To: <D3A291F3-2F77-43DE-B6FB-279802BDF32A@mac.com>
References: <p06240409c13cbbfa3e26@[192.168.1.2]>
	<p0624040bc13cc1ac93d2@[192.168.1.2]>
	<p06240401c13f93c7d47b@[192.168.1.2]>
	<D3A291F3-2F77-43DE-B6FB-279802BDF32A@mac.com>
Message-ID: <A94218C4-F641-498C-95B0-B726A73E9E65@mac.com>

Did anyone see this article today? It is a far cry from when the  
Deputy Director of Curriculum told me there was "no visualization in  
Language Arts".
Holly

Des Moines students get cameras to help learn

by Darwin Danielson

Students at a Des Moines Roosevelt High School received five donated  
video cameras Tuesday to use to make movies in their English classes.  
The Independent Film Channel from cable TV, and the Mediacom cable  
company donated the cameras.

Andy Hunn of the I-F-C says it's part of their on-line course called  
"I-F-C Film School." He says the course includes everything from how  
to frame shots, how to take a scene and convert it to something that  
looks best on screen. Hunn says donating the cameras gives the  
students the tools they need to "take it to the next level."

Hunn says Roosevelt is just the fifth high school in the country to  
get the donated cameras as part of the program. Hunn says, "If you  
have the tools in hand, you have the ability to make something of  
yourself." Hunn says whether you have the talent to end up as the  
next great director, is a personal thing. Hunn says they hope this  
leads kids down the path to possibly become a great film director.

I-F-C gave a presentation to students showing how many low-budget  
independent films, such as "Napoleon Dynamite", ending up making a  
lot of money. While some other multi-million dollar films, such as  
"Gigli" , tanked at the box office.

Roosevelt English teacher Petra Lang says once they learn about how  
to shoot a movie, they'll use the cameras to create stories from what  
they've learned. Lang says after they get done looking at American  
literature, they'll find the stories that most influence American  
culture today and will integrate the stories into a personal  
narrative. Lang says the students are anxious to take part in the  
project.

Lang says, "They're tremendously excited by it." She says some  
students have already brought in cameras and it will be nice to let  
the other students use cameras too. Lang says the traditional method  
of reading and discussing literature is still important -- but she  
says this adds something extra. Lang says, "What we're looking at is  
new ways to engage students in learning." The film school curriculum  
is free to any school that wants to use it on the I-F-C website  
at:www.ifc.com.

On Sep 27, 2006, at 3:58 PM, John Eller wrote:

>
> with a new superintendent, it might be time to make another run at  
> the des moines schools to re-open their system to dual platform  
> support .
>
> can someone put me in touch with an appropriate apple rep?
> i have some suggestions.
>
> thanks.
>
> http://forums.maccentral.com/wwwthreads/showflat.php? 
> Cat=&Board=general&Number=860291&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=14&part=1 
> &vc=1
> _______________________________________________
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From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Wed Sep 27 16:38:30 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Wed Sep 27 16:38:46 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] iowa apple rep for education?
In-Reply-To: <D3A291F3-2F77-43DE-B6FB-279802BDF32A@mac.com>
References: <p06240409c13cbbfa3e26@[192.168.1.2]>
	<p0624040bc13cc1ac93d2@[192.168.1.2]>
	<p06240401c13f93c7d47b@[192.168.1.2]>
	<D3A291F3-2F77-43DE-B6FB-279802BDF32A@mac.com>
Message-ID: <p06240414c1409fab9e87@[192.168.1.2]>

>with a new superintendent, it might be time to make another run at 
>the des moines schools to re-open their system to dual platform 
>support .

I agree....at least to stop the negativity as to anything 
Apple/Mac...esp now that MacBooks and others can run WIN programs, 
there's no reason to have WIN machines!
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
planning & Photography, <http://www.JourneyZing.com>;  Des Moines, 
Iowa, ph.515-255-4475.
From jonsharyl at prairieinet.net  Wed Sep 27 18:22:28 2006
From: jonsharyl at prairieinet.net (Jon Engelhardt)
Date: Wed Sep 27 18:22:15 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] iowa apple rep for education?
In-Reply-To: <A94218C4-F641-498C-95B0-B726A73E9E65@mac.com>
References: <p06240409c13cbbfa3e26@[192.168.1.2]>
	<p0624040bc13cc1ac93d2@[192.168.1.2]>
	<p06240401c13f93c7d47b@[192.168.1.2]>
	<D3A291F3-2F77-43DE-B6FB-279802BDF32A@mac.com>
	<A94218C4-F641-498C-95B0-B726A73E9E65@mac.com>
Message-ID: <2028B43D-87CC-422F-A458-E7878A2BF93E@prairieinet.net>

Well, no one has ever accused Curriculum Directors of being bright.

Sorry, 32 years of dealing with administrative incompetence left me a  
bit jaded.

Jon
On Sep 27, 2006, at 4:02 PM, Holly Welch wrote:

> Did anyone see this article today? It is a far cry from when the  
> Deputy Director of Curriculum told me there was "no visualization  
> in Language Arts".
> Holly
>
> Des Moines students get cameras to help learn
>
> by Darwin Danielson
>
> Students at a Des Moines Roosevelt High School received five  
> donated video cameras Tuesday to use to make movies in their  
> English classes. The Independent Film Channel from cable TV, and  
> the Mediacom cable company donated the cameras.
>
> Andy Hunn of the I-F-C says it's part of their on-line course  
> called "I-F-C Film School." He says the course includes everything  
> from how to frame shots, how to take a scene and convert it to  
> something that looks best on screen. Hunn says donating the cameras  
> gives the students the tools they need to "take it to the next level."
>
> Hunn says Roosevelt is just the fifth high school in the country to  
> get the donated cameras as part of the program. Hunn says, "If you  
> have the tools in hand, you have the ability to make something of  
> yourself." Hunn says whether you have the talent to end up as the  
> next great director, is a personal thing. Hunn says they hope this  
> leads kids down the path to possibly become a great film director.
>
> I-F-C gave a presentation to students showing how many low-budget  
> independent films, such as "Napoleon Dynamite", ending up making a  
> lot of money. While some other multi-million dollar films, such as  
> "Gigli" , tanked at the box office.
>
> Roosevelt English teacher Petra Lang says once they learn about how  
> to shoot a movie, they'll use the cameras to create stories from  
> what they've learned. Lang says after they get done looking at  
> American literature, they'll find the stories that most influence  
> American culture today and will integrate the stories into a  
> personal narrative. Lang says the students are anxious to take part  
> in the project.
>
> Lang says, "They're tremendously excited by it." She says some  
> students have already brought in cameras and it will be nice to let  
> the other students use cameras too. Lang says the traditional  
> method of reading and discussing literature is still important --  
> but she says this adds something extra. Lang says, "What we're  
> looking at is new ways to engage students in learning." The film  
> school curriculum is free to any school that wants to use it on the  
> I-F-C website at:www.ifc.com.
>
> On Sep 27, 2006, at 3:58 PM, John Eller wrote:
>
>>
>> with a new superintendent, it might be time to make another run at  
>> the des moines schools to re-open their system to dual platform  
>> support .
>>
>> can someone put me in touch with an appropriate apple rep?
>> i have some suggestions.
>>
>> thanks.
>>
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From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Thu Sep 28 20:09:58 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Thu Sep 28 20:10:15 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Next Meeting - October 24th
Message-ID: <7B217058-F097-499F-A0A3-70AC1A88925A@earthlink.net>

Good turnout for the Promethean ActivBoard technology. Thanks to  
everyone for coming out. I didn't stick around for the whole thing,  
but was glad to see everyone there and was pleasantly surprised at  
the integration of the white-board and the Mac. Very interesting  
things happening in education!

So, next month is going to be all about Word, or to be more precise,  
how to avoid it! John Kisner will offer his expertise on alternatives  
to the monopolistic Microsoft monster from a word-processing point-of- 
view. Bring your questions, opinions and experiences and add to the  
discussion. Put us on your calendar for next month, we look forward  
to seeing you there!

What:
DM-MUG meeting

When:
Tuesday October 24, 2006 @ 7:00 PM

Where:
Haddock Computer
801 73rd Street
Suite 1
Windsor Heights IA 50312
USA

Why:
Beyond Microsoft Word: John Kisner
General Mac discussion


Another reason to use a Mac (and Keynote!): <http:// 
www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/09/28/0-day_powerpoint_threat/>


Matthew Wheeler
-- iVP --
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
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From rbowler at mchsi.com  Sat Sep 30 06:02:43 2006
From: rbowler at mchsi.com (Ray Bowler)
Date: Sat Sep 30 06:02:49 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] USB printer
In-Reply-To: <2BEEA745-81B1-498C-BCFB-0240694E32BA@earthlink.net>
References: <p06240606c13ddf42ba2d@[10.0.1.3]>
	<60EF4E0B-37FF-4622-BCCD-E6423D2D1915@i-rule.net>
	<2BEEA745-81B1-498C-BCFB-0240694E32BA@earthlink.net>
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Matt,

Tat is what I though until someone else suggested powering down and 
restarting. Now it works. Go figure. Cokmputers don't make sense.


At 5:33 PM -0500 9/25/06, Matthew W. wrote:
>But neither a mouse nor a printer require a powered port, that's why 
>mice work on keyboards. Apple keyboards are not powered USB hubs. 
>Sounds like a dead port to me. A hub might be a good solution.
>
>Mw
>
>On Sep 25, 2006, at 2:46 PM, kickfire@i-rule.net wrote:
>
>>My guess would be the power required from the port. make sure you 
>>get a powered usb port.
>>
>>dave
>>
>>
>>On Sep 25, 2006, at 2:41 PM, Ray Bowler wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I have a problem and a possible reason for it which I would like 
>>>to have someone tell me I am wrong. I tried to print to my wife"s 
>>>printer connected to her iBook and it would not print. I tried a 
>>>couple of things and couldn't make it work until I switched USB 
>>>ports with her Kensington Turbo Mouse. Now the printer would work 
>>>but not the mouse. That seems to mean that the printer and cable 
>>>are fine but not the port. I would have a hard time paying to 
>>>replace the port(logic board?) if is is dead. a work around would 
>>>be a USB hub. Is my analysis right?
>>>
>>>--
>>>Ray Bowler
>>>
>>>rbowler.home.mchsi.com
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From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 30 19:35:07 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Sat Sep 30 19:35:22 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Genius Bar TV comedy?
Message-ID: <457C821D-D8F7-4024-A66F-5129B2A96E95@earthlink.net>

An Apple-inspired comedy? Interesting.

<http://tv.yahoo.com/news/va/20060928/115950764500.html>


Matthew Wheeler
-- iVP --
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
http://www.dmmug.org





