From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Thu Jun  1 17:59:34 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Thu Jun  1 18:02:41 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Keynote presentations
Message-ID: <p0623092ac0a52164ebdf@[192.168.0.12]>

 From my lawyer list.
>
>We've been using Keynote for mediation presentations.  We haven't
>been doing anything particularly creative, mostly just highlighting
>pages of depositions, medical records, accident reports, etc.
>
>Last night I created a very quick and dirty "special effect".  We
>have a crummy, freehand, not-to-scale diagram on a Texas Department
>of Public Safety accident report.  I filled the screen with that
>diagram.  I then dissolved to a very basic schematic which traced the
>officer's objects and lines and added text boxes indicating
>measurements.  Then, using those same objects and lines, I dissolved
>to another version which moved objects and lines around to put the
>diagram in rough perspective.  It took about twenty minutes for me to
>figure out how to do it; it will take me five minutes next time.
>
>We played it today during the mediation, and opposing counsel was
>wowed by it, asking how we did it, and noting it was obvious it
>wasn't Powerpoint.  I haven't played with Powerpoint since I've been
>using Keynote (for about two years), so I cannot verify that
>statement.  But it was interesting.
>
>I'm attaching an article below, extolling the virtues of Keynote.
>
>
>
>http://presentationzen.blogs.com/presentationzen/2006/06/duarte_design_h.html
>
>Duarte Design helps Al Gore "go visual" -- very interesting;  Gore 
>uses Keynote.
>
>
>Chris Scott
>Connolly & Castagna, L.L.P.

-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State 
Fairgrounds.
From wmbrainiac at mac.com  Thu Jun  1 18:37:08 2006
From: wmbrainiac at mac.com (John Eller)
Date: Thu Jun  1 18:37:21 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Keynote presentations
In-Reply-To: <p0623092ac0a52164ebdf@[192.168.0.12]>
References: <p0623092ac0a52164ebdf@[192.168.0.12]>
Message-ID: <289FEDDE-7897-4DA2-A77A-466A48C3D1E2@mac.com>

easy enough for a dufus like me to use.

i've used it to create "living overheads" for the classroom.

the kicker is the integration with itunes and other "i" apps.

not knowing i'd created anything exceptional, i was showing one of  
the presentations i made to the designated tech help at my school  
(all windows).  i was emphasizing the content, not so much the style.  
she's used powerpoint extensively and her gut reaction to viewing the  
first ten seconds was "now i like that."


On Jun 1, 2006, at 5:59 PM, Victoria L. Herring wrote:

> From my lawyer list.
>>
>> We've been using Keynote for mediation presentations.  We haven't
>> been doing anything particularly creative, mostly just highlighting
>> pages of depositions, medical records, accident reports, etc.
>>
>> Last night I created a very quick and dirty "special effect".  We
>> have a crummy, freehand, not-to-scale diagram on a Texas Department
>> of Public Safety accident report.  I filled the screen with that
>> diagram.  I then dissolved to a very basic schematic which traced the
>> officer's objects and lines and added text boxes indicating
>> measurements.  Then, using those same objects and lines, I dissolved
>> to another version which moved objects and lines around to put the
>> diagram in rough perspective.  It took about twenty minutes for me to
>> figure out how to do it; it will take me five minutes next time.
>>
>> We played it today during the mediation, and opposing counsel was
>> wowed by it, asking how we did it, and noting it was obvious it
>> wasn't Powerpoint.  I haven't played with Powerpoint since I've been
>> using Keynote (for about two years), so I cannot verify that
>> statement.  But it was interesting.
>>
>> I'm attaching an article below, extolling the virtues of Keynote.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://presentationzen.blogs.com/presentationzen/2006/06/ 
>> duarte_design_h.html
>>
>> Duarte Design helps Al Gore "go visual" -- very interesting;  Gore  
>> uses Keynote.
>>
>>
>> Chris Scott
>> Connolly & Castagna, L.L.P.
>
> -- 
> Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination &  
> Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research,  
> <http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at http:// 
> victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. Upcoming  
> show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State  
> Fairgrounds.
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From billd at ecity.net  Thu Jun  1 23:24:20 2006
From: billd at ecity.net (Bill Davis)
Date: Thu Jun  1 23:24:48 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Keynote presentations
In-Reply-To: <289FEDDE-7897-4DA2-A77A-466A48C3D1E2@mac.com>
References: <p0623092ac0a52164ebdf@[192.168.0.12]>
	<289FEDDE-7897-4DA2-A77A-466A48C3D1E2@mac.com>
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On Jun 1, 2006, at 6:37 PM, John Eller wrote:

>>> Duarte Design helps Al Gore "go visual" -- very interesting;   
>>> Gore uses Keynote.
>>>
>>>

Al Gore is on Apple's board of directors...he'd BETTER use Keynote if  
he knows what's good for him, or The Steve will get after him!


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From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Fri Jun  2 03:14:07 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Fri Jun  2 03:16:02 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Keynote presentations
In-Reply-To: <928E4D64-F336-421B-B4C5-FA188FF63F22@ecity.net>
References: <p0623092ac0a52164ebdf@[192.168.0.12]>
	<289FEDDE-7897-4DA2-A77A-466A48C3D1E2@mac.com>
	<928E4D64-F336-421B-B4C5-FA188FF63F22@ecity.net>
Message-ID: <p06230930c0a5a3aa748d@[192.168.0.12]>

>
>Al Gore is on Apple's board of directors...he'd BETTER use Keynote 
>if he knows what's good for him, or The Steve will get after him!

I know that....it is an interesting blog piece and also the videos 
are good to watch, and pine for.
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State 
Fairgrounds.
From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Fri Jun  2 13:05:25 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matt W)
Date: Fri Jun  2 13:05:31 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] For Sale: Acrobat 6 Professional
Message-ID: <BAFA9257-6076-4B60-B066-76591B66F405@earthlink.net>

Full Professional version with serial and original box. I've moved on  
to CS2 Suite making standalone Acrobat redundant.

Asking $180. This plus Acro7 Pro Upgrade gets you there for $110 less  
than full version.

Acrobat 7 Pro Upgrade streets for $150
Acrobat 7 Pro Full vers. is $430

Matthew
From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Tue Jun  6 14:42:22 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matt W)
Date: Tue Jun  6 14:42:31 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] FS: Newton 2000 + extras
Message-ID: <B9CF8B52-863A-41A0-A9EE-05C609B4C02A@earthlink.net>


Newton 2000 complete original package with extras

Excellent condition (normal wear, no obvious blemishes, no screen
scratches, nothing missing)
8 MB SimpleTech Flash RAM card
USRobotics XJA3288 28.8 modem
14.4 Motorola cell modem (includes cables for unknown phone, RJ11
phone plug)
Mac/Windows serial cables
Newton Serial adapter
Newton Keyboard
Newton case
AC adapter
Rechargeable battery (NiMH) still holds a decent charge
AA battery holder
Slot inserts/covers, Plastic inserts that go into the card slots
Original box, software, manuals, and backup disks

This was my personal Newton bought new and used from 1999 through
2003. Software is still available online and with a 9-pin serial
adapter and NewtSync, I was syncing iCal to my Newton from Mac OS
10.2.8 and maybe early 10.3, but I disremember. In January '06 I
charged the NiMH battery and used the Newton lightly for about 4
days. It never ran down below 70%. I reset the system and packed it up.

Asking $150. *Reasonable offers considered* Pickup from West Des Moines.

Matthew
Maccelerate@earthlink.net

From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Thu Jun  8 10:43:53 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Thu Jun  8 10:44:21 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Making extra SATA bootable
Message-ID: <p06230945c0adf632f5d2@[192.168.0.12]>

I have now erased and initialized my SATA drive and want to make it 
bootable = what is the very least I can put on it [assume that I will 
be using Tiger disk to install system on it, right???] to make it 
bootable?  I only want that feature, nothing else.  It's my photo 
etc. disk and while I only want it to hold that, I do want it 
bootable just in case....or do I do the Tiger install on it, then 
delete, Movies, iPhoto etc. and som or all applications???
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State 
Fairgrounds.
From darcybaston at gmail.com  Thu Jun  8 19:22:26 2006
From: darcybaston at gmail.com (Darcy Baston)
Date: Thu Jun  8 19:22:31 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Making extra SATA bootable
In-Reply-To: <p06230945c0adf632f5d2@[192.168.0.12]>
Message-ID: <C0AE2972.2D5D%darcybaston@gmail.com>

Can SuperDuper do that? I use it as my backup solution and it can make
devices bootable. I wonder what would happen if it was set to not backup
anything, and make a device bootable?

Darcy


On 6/8/06 10:43 AM, "Victoria L. Herring" <vlherring@herringlaw.com> wrote:

> I have now erased and initialized my SATA drive and want to make it
> bootable = what is the very least I can put on it [assume that I will
> be using Tiger disk to install system on it, right???] to make it
> bootable?  I only want that feature, nothing else.  It's my photo
> etc. disk and while I only want it to hold that, I do want it
> bootable just in case....or do I do the Tiger install on it, then
> delete, Movies, iPhoto etc. and som or all applications???


From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Thu Jun  8 19:35:54 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Thu Jun  8 19:36:16 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Making extra SATA bootable
In-Reply-To: <C0AE2972.2D5D%darcybaston@gmail.com>
References: <C0AE2972.2D5D%darcybaston@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <p0623091bc0ae728c5d8f@[192.168.0.12]>

>Can SuperDuper do that? I use it as my backup solution and it can make
>devices bootable. I wonder what would happen if it was set to not backup
>anything, and make a device bootable?

I ended up using Disk Utility to erase then using my Tiger disk to 
reinstall and the Seagate now has Tiger on it and is 
bootable...SuperDuper does make a disk bootable but I wasn't trying 
to back up data, just make it a bootable disk.

Now the next Q is whether I can delete any stuff off the Seagate 
[such as all those iApps and other things I won't really need] -- how 
stripped down can I make it???  Safely???
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State 
Fairgrounds.
From bailey at mac.com  Fri Jun  9 07:21:42 2006
From: bailey at mac.com (Bailey Ford)
Date: Fri Jun  9 07:21:48 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Making extra SATA bootable
In-Reply-To: <p0623091bc0ae728c5d8f@[192.168.0.12]>
References: <C0AE2972.2D5D%darcybaston@gmail.com>
	<p0623091bc0ae728c5d8f@[192.168.0.12]>
Message-ID: <778B87E0-9A42-47D6-BABC-2AB5E1A3A385@mac.com>

"How stripped down can I make it??? Safely???"

That's the real question. When you did the install of OSX on the  
drive, did you go into options and deselect bunches of stuff? That  
would be a safe way to get a good trimmed down system. The iApps and  
the stuff in your applications and utilities folders - those are safe  
to trash. I wouldn't go deleting files from the Library or System  
folders unless you were quite sure what you were doing. There is a  
wee bit of fat in there, but when drives cost less than $0.50 per gig  
you are going to save yourself less than a few dollars worth of space  
and spend more than a few dollars worth of time to do it.

There is a little bit of software that looks OK - Applimiser. (http:// 
www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/15044) This little app will remove lots  
of the other language localizations from the system to save drive  
space. It's $12. You could save most of the same space by just  
deselecting those other languages when you do the install.

Trimming the system down like this does bring to mind for me the  
question of why you are doing this. I read that this will be a media  
drive - pretty much just for storing movies, tunes, and pics. You  
want the thing to be bootable so that you can run maintenance  
routines on your other drives while booting from this one? What is  
your thinking on this?

ciao,
bailey

On Jun 8, 2006, at 7:35 PM, Victoria L. Herring wrote:

>> Can SuperDuper do that? I use it as my backup solution and it can  
>> make
>> devices bootable. I wonder what would happen if it was set to not  
>> backup
>> anything, and make a device bootable?
>
> I ended up using Disk Utility to erase then using my Tiger disk to  
> reinstall and the Seagate now has Tiger on it and is  
> bootable...SuperDuper does make a disk bootable but I wasn't trying  
> to back up data, just make it a bootable disk.
>
> Now the next Q is whether I can delete any stuff off the Seagate  
> [such as all those iApps and other things I won't really need] --  
> how stripped down can I make it???  Safely???
> -- 
> Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination &  
> Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research,  
> <http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at http:// 
> victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. Upcoming  
> show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State  
> Fairgrounds.
> _______________________________________________
> Dmmug mailing list
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From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Fri Jun  9 08:04:58 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Fri Jun  9 08:05:22 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Making extra SATA bootable
In-Reply-To: <778B87E0-9A42-47D6-BABC-2AB5E1A3A385@mac.com>
References: <C0AE2972.2D5D%darcybaston@gmail.com>
	<p0623091bc0ae728c5d8f@[192.168.0.12]>
	<778B87E0-9A42-47D6-BABC-2AB5E1A3A385@mac.com>
Message-ID: <p06230924c0af20fc4064@[192.168.0.12]>

>"How stripped down can I make it??? Safely???"
>
>That's the real question. When you did the install of OSX on the 
>drive, did you go into options and deselect bunches of stuff?

yes, I did that...

>  The iApps and the stuff in your applications and utilities folders 
>- those are safe to trash.

thanks - I probably will not touch Library or System for the reasons you state.
>
I did de select fonts and languages...what is odd about getting rid 
of them later is that every time I've run something to do that 
[usuallyMonolingual] it ends up 'breaking' my Microsoft keyboard so 
that I have to reinstall it....thus, I've not wanted to do any of 
that tinkering

As to why, just trying to start out with max room and not have 
unnecessary stuff...I did want it bootable just in case but not have 
alot of stuff on it otherwise....
Thanks for the help


-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State 
Fairgrounds.
From jweida at gmail.com  Fri Jun  9 09:37:19 2006
From: jweida at gmail.com (Jerry Heiselman)
Date: Fri Jun  9 09:37:27 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Making extra SATA bootable
In-Reply-To: <p06230924c0af20fc4064@192.168.0.12>
References: <C0AE2972.2D5D%darcybaston@gmail.com>
	<p0623091bc0ae728c5d8f@192.168.0.12>
	<778B87E0-9A42-47D6-BABC-2AB5E1A3A385@mac.com>
	<p06230924c0af20fc4064@192.168.0.12>
Message-ID: <40e57b5f0606090737q4c13bacfk89880d2bd98f6942@mail.gmail.com>

You could always put a slim version of Linux/BSD on the drive and have all
the media on a FAT32 partition so that Tiger can still use the drive.  I
know that FreeBSD can be run extremely slim (~100MB I think).

On 6/9/06, Victoria L. Herring <vlherring@herringlaw.com> wrote:
>
> >"How stripped down can I make it??? Safely???"
> >
> >That's the real question. When you did the install of OSX on the
> >drive, did you go into options and deselect bunches of stuff?
>
> yes, I did that...
>
> >  The iApps and the stuff in your applications and utilities folders
> >- those are safe to trash.
>
> thanks - I probably will not touch Library or System for the reasons you
> state.
> >
> I did de select fonts and languages...what is odd about getting rid
> of them later is that every time I've run something to do that
> [usuallyMonolingual] it ends up 'breaking' my Microsoft keyboard so
> that I have to reinstall it....thus, I've not wanted to do any of
> that tinkering
>
> As to why, just trying to start out with max room and not have
> unnecessary stuff...I did want it bootable just in case but not have
> alot of stuff on it otherwise....
> Thanks for the help
>
>
> --
> Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination &
> Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research,
> <http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at
> http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com.
> Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State
> Fairgrounds.
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From kisnerj at dwx.com  Mon Jun 12 11:52:59 2006
From: kisnerj at dwx.com (John Kisner)
Date: Mon Jun 12 11:53:04 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] 12-inch laptop
In-Reply-To: 40e57b5f0606090737q4c13bacfk89880d2bd98f6942@mail.gmail.com
References: <C0AE2972.2D5D%darcybaston@gmail.com><p0623091bc0ae728c5d8f@192.168.0.12><778B87E0-9A42-47D6-BABC-2AB5E1A3A385@mac.co
	m><p06230924c0af20fc4064@192.168.0.12>
	40e57b5f0606090737q4c13bacfk89880d2bd98f6942@mail.gmail.com
Message-ID: <772AAB2C-DD2D-40CA-A966-9399E8CD37DA@dwx.com>

I'm interested in buying a 12-inch G4 powerbook or ibook for my  
daughter.  Just thought I'd check with the locals before looking into  
eBay.

John

contact me at kisnerj@dwx.com
From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Mon Jun 12 12:06:05 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Mon Jun 12 12:06:20 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] 12-inch laptop
In-Reply-To: <772AAB2C-DD2D-40CA-A966-9399E8CD37DA@dwx.com>
References: <C0AE2972.2D5D%darcybaston@gmail.com><p0623091bc0ae728c5d8f@192.168.0.12><
	778B87E0-9A42-47D6-BABC-2AB5E1A3A385@mac.co
	m><p06230924c0af20fc4064@192.168.0.12>
	40e57b5f0606090737q4c13bacfk89880d2bd98f6942@mail.gmail.com
	<772AAB2C-DD2D-40CA-A966-9399E8CD37DA@dwx.com>
Message-ID: <p0623091fc0b34f65216d@[192.168.0.12]>

I have one and will be selling it== I'll be glad to gather the details for you.
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State 
Fairgrounds.
From vlh at herringlaw.com  Mon Jun 12 15:23:22 2006
From: vlh at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Mon Jun 12 15:24:35 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] problem erasing external Western Digital 60G drive
Message-ID: <p0623092dc0b37da9f947@[192.168.0.12]>

I have 60G external Western Digital drive that I'm trying to 
erase/initialize to Mac HFS extended Journaled and it's not letting 
me do it =-= it hangs when the 'partition' bar is 1mm across...I've 
tried this twice and let it run for many minutes...I also sent 
support at WDC the Q, since this is precisely what they say to do, 
but wondered if someone here had a better and faster answer.
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State 
Fairgrounds.
From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Mon Jun 12 16:08:47 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Mon Jun 12 16:09:09 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] problem erasing external Western Digital 60G drive
In-Reply-To: <p0623092dc0b37da9f947@[192.168.0.12]>
References: <p0623092dc0b37da9f947@[192.168.0.12]>
Message-ID: <p06230932c0b388226dd4@[192.168.0.12]>

the answer = apparently the USB power is not enough to run the drive 
from a laptop;  -  they're shipping out a power adapter - tho I 
wonder why folks sell things without accounting for that possibility
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State 
Fairgrounds.
From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Mon Jun 12 16:12:55 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Mon Jun 12 16:13:03 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] 12-inch laptop
In-Reply-To: <772AAB2C-DD2D-40CA-A966-9399E8CD37DA@dwx.com>
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	778B87E0-9A42-47D6-BABC-2AB5E1A3A385@mac.co
	m><p06230924c0af20fc4064@192.168.0.12>
	40e57b5f0606090737q4c13bacfk89880d2bd98f6942@mail.gmail.com
	<772AAB2C-DD2D-40CA-A966-9399E8CD37DA@dwx.com>
Message-ID: <p06230931c0b383c3677d@[192.168.0.12]>

PB 12";  G4;  1.5 Ghz CPU; Memory 1.25 GB;  Bus 167;  120G internal 
drive [Western Dig. installed by Haddock [I'd have to erase/zero out 
and reinstall of course];  Bluetooth;  Airport;  400mb FW;  this 
model has a modem...

I do have Applecare on it -- which should cover 3 yrs fromJan-March 
of this year.

Those are the specs [Apple site has others no doubt]

I'm also going to sell my 15" Powerbook but not quite ready.
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State 
Fairgrounds.
From kisnerj at dwx.com  Mon Jun 12 16:38:45 2006
From: kisnerj at dwx.com (John Kisner)
Date: Mon Jun 12 16:38:51 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] 12-inch laptop
In-Reply-To: p06230931c0b383c3677d@[192.168.0.12]
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	m><p06230924c0af20fc4064@192.168.0.12>40e57b5f0606090737q4c13bacfk89880d2bd98f6942@mail.gmail.com<772AAB2C-DD2D-40CA-A966-9399E
	8CD37DA@dwx.com> p06230931c0b383c3677d@[192.168.0.12]
Message-ID: <0CE91327-C91E-4CAA-9B98-6DA2807FD87B@dwx.com>

Sounds pretty loaded.  I don't think I want to spend that much on my  
daughter's machine (assuming depreciation isn't greater than I presume).

On Jun 12, 2006, at 4:12 PM, Victoria L. Herring wrote:

> PB 12";  G4;  1.5 Ghz CPU; Memory 1.25 GB;  Bus 167;  120G internal  
> drive [Western Dig. installed by Haddock [I'd have to erase/zero  
> out and reinstall of course];  Bluetooth;  Airport;  400mb FW;   
> this model has a modem...

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From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Mon Jun 12 17:34:05 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Mon Jun 12 17:48:16 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] 12-inch laptop
In-Reply-To: <0CE91327-C91E-4CAA-9B98-6DA2807FD87B@dwx.com>
References: <C0AE2972.2D5D%darcybaston@gmail.com><p0623091bc0ae728c5d8f@192.168.0.12><
	778B87E0-9A42-47D6-BABC-2AB5E1A3A385@mac.co
	m><p06230924c0af20fc4064@192.168.0.12>40e57b5f0606090737q4c13bacfk89880d2b
	d98f6942@mail.gmail.com<772AAB2C-DD2D-40CA-A966-9399E	8CD37DA@dwx.com>
	p06230931c0b383c3677d@[192.168.0.12]
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that's fine...you can price it and let me know and if anyone else is 
interested, I'd rather skip eBay if possible.
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State 
Fairgrounds.
From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Tue Jun 13 11:50:12 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Tue Jun 13 11:50:22 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] The rest of me...
Message-ID: <A49D25BD-859B-4C8D-8ECE-506F0CA82546@earthlink.net>

Three new Mac ads are just perfect! I think these are some of Apple's  
best commercials ever.

<http://www.apple.com/getamac/ads/>

Matthew
From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Tue Jun 13 11:57:40 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Tue Jun 13 11:57:55 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Word in Russian
Message-ID: <p06230965c0b49ef5c800@[192.168.0.12]>

I gather from a WIN user of Word, he is able to do a document in
English, go to Tools/Language/Russian and it translates to
Russian...I have tried and tried and tried == have MSOffice updated
all the way, have the fonts installed, have tried to do it and it
won't work.

I have also tried Sherlock...i don't know why but it keeps quitting
on me = I click on Translation and poof, it quits.  I've done the
usual cleanups [repair permis., restart]

any other ideas?  One issue is the keyboard because while you can get
a Keyboard Viewer up on screen it's hard to easily figure out which
keys match which Cyrillic alpha letter....but hunt and peck works in
a little bit.  But the idea of just doing a document and quick
translation is so much better I'd rather get Word to do it.
-- 
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State 
Fairgrounds.
From big.smelly at gmail.com  Tue Jun 13 13:04:52 2006
From: big.smelly at gmail.com (Chris R)
Date: Tue Jun 13 13:05:02 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Word in Russian
In-Reply-To: <p06230965c0b49ef5c800@[192.168.0.12]>
References: <p06230965c0b49ef5c800@[192.168.0.12]>
Message-ID: <AE85BF16-3697-405E-A8BB-85E8B09132E4@gmail.com>

We get quite a few foreign language emails and the  
Babelfish.altavista.com cut and paste translator is very effective.  
You can also download the cyrillic keyboard layout for mac and it  
will type russian letters. You still have to be able to write in  
Russian though. Regards Chris




Better a live a live dog than a dead king
http://www.kavanaughgallery.com

On Jun 13, 2006, at 11:57 AM, Victoria L. Herring wrote:

> I gather from a WIN user of Word, he is able to do a document in
> English, go to Tools/Language/Russian and it translates to
> Russian...I have tried and tried and tried == have MSOffice updated
> all the way, have the fonts installed, have tried to do it and it
> won't work.
>
> I have also tried Sherlock...i don't know why but it keeps quitting
> on me = I click on Translation and poof, it quits.  I've done the
> usual cleanups [repair permis., restart]
>
> any other ideas?  One issue is the keyboard because while you can get
> a Keyboard Viewer up on screen it's hard to easily figure out which
> keys match which Cyrillic alpha letter....but hunt and peck works in
> a little bit.  But the idea of just doing a document and quick
> translation is so much better I'd rather get Word to do it.
> -- 
> -- 
> Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination &  
> Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research,  
> <http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at http:// 
> victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. Upcoming  
> show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State  
> Fairgrounds.
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From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Tue Jun 13 14:11:46 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Tue Jun 13 14:11:55 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Word in Russian
In-Reply-To: <AE85BF16-3697-405E-A8BB-85E8B09132E4@gmail.com>
References: <p06230965c0b49ef5c800@[192.168.0.12]>
	<AE85BF16-3697-405E-A8BB-85E8B09132E4@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <p06230976c0b4be1212e1@[192.168.0.12]>

I just went there to see it -- I must be jinxing things (1) first, 
Sherlock keeps quitting and won't let me do translation and (2) I 
just entered "hello how are you" in the babelfish and it came back "?"

I'll try it again = there are other places on web too...my hope 
though was to have a document easily translated -- so I could prepare 
some info ahead of time...I won't have mycomputer htere
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State 
Fairgrounds.
From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Tue Jun 13 14:45:39 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Tue Jun 13 14:45:43 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Word in Russian
In-Reply-To: <p06230965c0b49ef5c800@[192.168.0.12]>
References: <p06230965c0b49ef5c800@[192.168.0.12]>
Message-ID: <362A1F4C-7572-4E30-A701-450F72388440@earthlink.net>

The Mac version of Word doesn't appear to have translation built-in.  
It's probably a simple language dictionary that MS includes with XP  
or Word. See the below link for a hint (search for translation):

<http://software.newsforge.com/software/05/04/15/1951232.shtml>

Curiously, the article also mentions Babelfish.

There may be an obscure plug-in, or dictionary that can be used on  
the Mac. It's also possible that one could "borrow" the Win version  
of the dictionary--but I doubt it--and place it on the Mac. Wouldn't  
be hard to test.

Have you Googled "russian translate?" There are lots of free online  
translators out there. Google itself is one.

Mw

On Jun 13, 2006, at 11:57 AM, Victoria L. Herring wrote:

> I gather from a WIN user of Word, he is able to do a document in
> English, go to Tools/Language/Russian and it translates to
> Russian...I have tried and tried and tried == have MSOffice updated
> all the way, have the fonts installed, have tried to do it and it
> won't work.

From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Tue Jun 13 15:07:30 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Tue Jun 13 15:07:38 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Word in Russian
In-Reply-To: <362A1F4C-7572-4E30-A701-450F72388440@earthlink.net>
References: <p06230965c0b49ef5c800@[192.168.0.12]>
	<362A1F4C-7572-4E30-A701-450F72388440@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <p06230979c0b4cb482b82@[192.168.0.12]>

>The Mac version of Word doesn't appear to have translation built-in. 
>It's probably a simple language dictionary that MS includes with XP 
>or Word. See the below link for a hint (search for translation):
>
><http://software.newsforge.com/software/05/04/15/1951232.shtml>
>
>Curiously, the article also mentions Babelfish.
>
>There may be an obscure plug-in, or dictionary that can be used on 
>the Mac. It's also possible that one could "borrow" the Win version 
>of the dictionary--but I doubt it--and place it on the Mac. Wouldn't 
>be hard to test.
>
>Have you Googled "russian translate?" There are lots of free online 
>translators out there. Google itself is one.


yes I have done that for three days running...I'm trying to do a 
whole document translation = it sounds very easy in Word...I can do 
something close in Sherlock [it now is working again] - Babelfish 
doesn't work for me for some reason.
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State 
Fairgrounds.
From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Tue Jun 13 15:12:23 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Tue Jun 13 15:13:08 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] The rest of me...
In-Reply-To: <A49D25BD-859B-4C8D-8ECE-506F0CA82546@earthlink.net>
References: <A49D25BD-859B-4C8D-8ECE-506F0CA82546@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <p0623097bc0b4cc9c7b5b@[192.168.0.12]>

>Three new Mac ads are just perfect! I think these are some of 
>Apple's best commercials ever.
>
><http://www.apple.com/getamac/ads/>

I agree...fun to watch...
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State 
Fairgrounds.
From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Tue Jun 13 15:24:03 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Tue Jun 13 15:24:19 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Word in Russian
In-Reply-To: <p06230979c0b4cb482b82@[192.168.0.12]>
References: <p06230965c0b49ef5c800@[192.168.0.12]>
	<362A1F4C-7572-4E30-A701-450F72388440@earthlink.net>
	<p06230979c0b4cb482b82@[192.168.0.12]>
Message-ID: <p0623097dc0b4cedb020b@[192.168.0.12]>

Well the present work around
1.  create document in Text Edit or Appleworks in English
2.  copy and paste into Sherlock
3.  Run the Russian translation
4.  Select the Russian keyboard [keyboard viewer and International/Languages]
5.  Create a new blank document in Text Edit [Appleworks does not 
work with Cyrillic alphabet]
6.  Copy and Paste the Russian translation [Sherlock's translation is 
via Systran and is in Cyrillic] into Text Edit
Hope it works
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State 
Fairgrounds.
From big.smelly at gmail.com  Tue Jun 13 15:51:07 2006
From: big.smelly at gmail.com (Chris R)
Date: Tue Jun 13 15:51:16 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Word in Russian
In-Reply-To: <p06230979c0b4cb482b82@[192.168.0.12]>
References: <p06230965c0b49ef5c800@[192.168.0.12]>
	<362A1F4C-7572-4E30-A701-450F72388440@earthlink.net>
	<p06230979c0b4cb482b82@[192.168.0.12]>
Message-ID: <6989E11B-8A91-4CF1-8025-0B89C6BCA5A4@gmail.com>

I have never had babel fish not work until today. Before our gallery  
used babel fish we used  the company that makes the babelfish  
systran.  They also have a free translation page with a 150 word at a  
time limit.


http://www.systranbox.com/systran/box

????????????! ??? ??

??????????? ??? ????????




On Jun 13, 2006, at 3:07 PM, Victoria L. Herring wrote:

>> The Mac version of Word doesn't appear to have translation built- 
>> in. It's probably a simple language dictionary that MS includes  
>> with XP or Word. See the below link for a hint (search for  
>> translation):
>>
>> <http://software.newsforge.com/software/05/04/15/1951232.shtml>
>>
>> Curiously, the article also mentions Babelfish.
>>
>> There may be an obscure plug-in, or dictionary that can be used on  
>> the Mac. It's also possible that one could "borrow" the Win  
>> version of the dictionary--but I doubt it--and place it on the  
>> Mac. Wouldn't be hard to test.
>>
>> Have you Googled "russian translate?" There are lots of free  
>> online translators out there. Google itself is one.
>
>
> yes I have done that for three days running...I'm trying to do a  
> whole document translation = it sounds very easy in Word...I can do  
> something close in Sherlock [it now is working again] - Babelfish  
> doesn't work for me for some reason.
> -- 
> Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination &  
> Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research,  
> <http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at http:// 
> victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. Upcoming  
> show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State  
> Fairgrounds.
> _______________________________________________
> Dmmug mailing list
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http://www.systranbox.com/systran/box
From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Tue Jun 13 15:57:49 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Tue Jun 13 15:58:08 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Word in Russian
In-Reply-To: <6989E11B-8A91-4CF1-8025-0B89C6BCA5A4@gmail.com>
References: <p06230965c0b49ef5c800@[192.168.0.12]>
	<362A1F4C-7572-4E30-A701-450F72388440@earthlink.net>
	<p06230979c0b4cb482b82@[192.168.0.12]>
	<6989E11B-8A91-4CF1-8025-0B89C6BCA5A4@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <p06230980c0b4d718f057@[192.168.0.12]>

Systran is the company that does the Sherlock translation and I was 
able to do it using Sherlock and that cumbersome process = pretty 
hard since I can't get the formating quite right in TExtEdit but 
it'll have to do for now -- Thanks
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State 
Fairgrounds.
From ka_klick at mac.com  Tue Jun 13 16:25:08 2006
From: ka_klick at mac.com (Bryan Baker)
Date: Tue Jun 13 16:25:14 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Word in Russian
In-Reply-To: <p06230980c0b4d718f057@[192.168.0.12]>
References: <p06230965c0b49ef5c800@[192.168.0.12]>
	<362A1F4C-7572-4E30-A701-450F72388440@earthlink.net>
	<p06230979c0b4cb482b82@[192.168.0.12]>
	<6989E11B-8A91-4CF1-8025-0B89C6BCA5A4@gmail.com>
	<p06230980c0b4d718f057@[192.168.0.12]>
Message-ID: <069A3F5B-5D53-4BFC-A8C7-7838C28C3C6E@mac.com>

??? ????, ?? ????????????? ??? ?????  
widget ?????????? ? ?????? ???????  
?????? ???, ?? ?????? ???

My friend, you osushchestvlyaete that it does wake widget switch oned  
with the tiger whom it will make this, will not make you?


I was saying originally (in summary) Tiger has a translation widget  
as well. I believe most of the services provided by Sherlock have  
been put into dashboard these days.

what I find cool is that it automatically turns the translation  
around on you so you get an idea of the "quality" and lets face it,  
machine translation (while better than nothing) is pretty abysmal.

On Jun 13, 2006, at 3:57 PM, Victoria L. Herring wrote:

> Systran is the company that does the Sherlock translation and I was  
> able to do it using Sherlock and that cumbersome process = pretty  
> hard since I can't get the formating quite right in TExtEdit but  
> it'll have to do for now -- Thanks
> -- 
> Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination &  
> Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research,  
> <http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at http:// 
> victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. Upcoming  
> show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State  
> Fairgrounds.
> _______________________________________________
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President
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
http://www.dmmug.org
president@dmmug.org

From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Tue Jun 13 17:20:11 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Tue Jun 13 17:48:20 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Word in Russian
In-Reply-To: <069A3F5B-5D53-4BFC-A8C7-7838C28C3C6E@mac.com>
References: <p06230965c0b49ef5c800@[192.168.0.12]>
	<362A1F4C-7572-4E30-A701-450F72388440@earthlink.net>
	<p06230979c0b4cb482b82@[192.168.0.12]>
	<6989E11B-8A91-4CF1-8025-0B89C6BCA5A4@gmail.com>
	<p06230980c0b4d718f057@[192.168.0.12]>
	<069A3F5B-5D53-4BFC-A8C7-7838C28C3C6E@mac.com>
Message-ID: <p0623098dc0b4ea3d6d07@[192.168.0.12]>

>??? ????, ?? ????????????? ??? ????? widget 
>?????????? ? ?????? ??????? ?????? ???, ?? 
>?????? ???
>
>My friend, you osushchestvlyaete that it does 
>wake widget switch oned with the tiger whom it 
>will make this, will not make you?
>
>
>I was saying originally (in summary) Tiger has a 
>translation widget as well. I believe most of 
>the services provided by Sherlock have been put 
>into dashboard these days.

yes but it's space to work with doesn't allow for 
full documents the way a Word doc. would and 
Sherlock space is perhaps enough... it's mainly 
my hope ot have some help == it's really hard for 
people who don't speak English to be around it 
all the time and then also to do their own 
translation = having just spent a month overseas 
and a week of that without much English use, I 
can commiserate - thanks

>
>what I find cool is that it automatically turns 
>the translation around on you so you get an idea 
>of the "quality" and lets face it, machine 
>translation (while better than nothing) is 
>pretty abysmal.

-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, 
Discrimination & Employment Law, 
<http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog; 
Photographs at http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and 
http://www.buyiowaart.com.   Upcoming show: 
ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa 
State Fairgrounds.
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From: darcybaston at gmail.com (Darcy Baston)
Date: Tue Jun 13 18:40:10 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Word in Russian
In-Reply-To: <p06230965c0b49ef5c800@[192.168.0.12]>
Message-ID: <C0B4B6E3.2F31%darcybaston@gmail.com>

The translation widget doesn't fare any better? Works almost instantly for
me.

Widget ???????? ????? ?? ?????? ????????? ?? ????????? ?????? ?????
?????????? ??? ????.


On 6/13/06 11:57 AM, "Victoria L. Herring" <vlherring@herringlaw.com> wrote:

> I have also tried Sherlock...i don't know why but it keeps quitting
> on me = I click on Translation and poof, it quits.  I've done the
> usual cleanups [repair permis., restart]


From big.smelly at gmail.com  Wed Jun 14 09:04:01 2006
From: big.smelly at gmail.com (Chris R)
Date: Wed Jun 14 09:04:08 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Word in Russian
In-Reply-To: <C0B4B6E3.2F31%darcybaston@gmail.com>
References: <C0B4B6E3.2F31%darcybaston@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <03A4716E-D9B6-4645-82B0-349C1F2B14EC@gmail.com>

I do see your point. At the most I will have to translate an email or  
two. Doing a multi page word doc 450 words at a time, and then  
worrying about whether the results make any sense or not. I guess  
that is what keep Berlitz and Rosetta stone in business. Regards C


Someday you will find that there is a difference between wanting and  
having.


From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Wed Jun 14 09:20:04 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Wed Jun 14 09:21:03 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Word in Russian
In-Reply-To: <03A4716E-D9B6-4645-82B0-349C1F2B14EC@gmail.com>
References: <C0B4B6E3.2F31%darcybaston@gmail.com>
	<03A4716E-D9B6-4645-82B0-349C1F2B14EC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <p062309a9c0b5cb4a2cd5@[192.168.0.12]>

Last night I wrote some simple declarative sentences in to Sherlock. 
I hit Translate, it uses Systran engine and translated them into 
Russian simple declarative sentences and I showed them to Olga this 
morning and she said she understood.  Even if not perfect, that's 
better than my trying to speak it!!!
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State 
Fairgrounds.
From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Thu Jun 15 19:42:21 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Thu Jun 15 19:42:36 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Airport hardware missing on my Mac Book Pro???
Message-ID: <p06230905c0b7ae987424@[192.168.0.12]>

it was there but I had to restart and did a repair permission and 
then looked and poof, the Airport menu item was gone...I opened up 
Internet Connect and it says there is no Airport Hardware on the 
MBP...well, there is or was...so where do I go to check attachment 
and reattach...?  I didn't drop it or anything
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State 
Fairgrounds.
From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Thu Jun 15 19:57:05 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Thu Jun 15 19:57:14 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Airport hardware missing on my Mac Book Pro???
In-Reply-To: <p06230905c0b7ae987424@[192.168.0.12]>
References: <p06230905c0b7ae987424@[192.168.0.12]>
Message-ID: <p06230906c0b7b2374db1@[192.168.0.12]>

it was there but I had to restart and did a repair permission and 
then looked and poof, the Airport menu item was gone...I opened up 
Internet Connect and it says there is no Airport Hardware on the 
MBP...well, there is or was...so where do I go to check attachment 
and reattach...?  I didn't drop it or anythingwell, I restarted it 
and it's 'back'

but it took forever to load....I assume this is an AppleCare or 
Genius Bar issue....what might be the culprit?
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State 
Fairgrounds.
From kisnerj at dwx.com  Thu Jun 15 21:12:43 2006
From: kisnerj at dwx.com (John Kisner)
Date: Thu Jun 15 21:12:49 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] .mac sites and PC users
In-Reply-To: p06230905c0b7ae987424@[192.168.0.12]
References: p06230905c0b7ae987424@[192.168.0.12]
Message-ID: <BC622E18-91A2-4979-93D5-C7FB7A8CB83E@dwx.com>

I have had a lot of PC users tell me they cannot access the "public  
folder" of my .Mac account.  Does anyone know why this is, and if  
there is anything I can do to fix it?
From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Thu Jun 15 21:17:58 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Thu Jun 15 21:48:35 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] .mac sites and PC users
In-Reply-To: <BC622E18-91A2-4979-93D5-C7FB7A8CB83E@dwx.com>
References: p06230905c0b7ae987424@[192.168.0.12]
	<BC622E18-91A2-4979-93D5-C7FB7A8CB83E@dwx.com>
Message-ID: <p06230908c0b7c4f2b15d@[192.168.0.12]>

>I have had a lot of PC users tell me they cannot access the "public 
>folder" of my .Mac account.  Does anyone know why this is, and if 
>there is anything I can do to fix it?

I think your public folder is on your iDisk and so you need to go to 
the iDisk part of .Mac in System Preferences and check to see if 
there is a password or anything...there are instructions that I copy 
and email to people...and WIN users have trouble accessing because, I 
think, they have to go thru WebDAV

There's a discussion in .Mac support or help area about how to get 
Windows people [PCs] able to connect to the .Mac site.
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State 
Fairgrounds.
From jweida at gmail.com  Fri Jun 16 06:10:42 2006
From: jweida at gmail.com (Jerry Heiselman)
Date: Fri Jun 16 06:10:45 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] .mac sites and PC users
In-Reply-To: <p06230908c0b7c4f2b15d@192.168.0.12>
References: <BC622E18-91A2-4979-93D5-C7FB7A8CB83E@dwx.com>
	<p06230908c0b7c4f2b15d@192.168.0.12>
Message-ID: <40e57b5f0606160410o65c6c5fey310117eb0970a3c7@mail.gmail.com>

The easiest way is for Windows users to download the iDisk Uility for
Windows, but Victoria is right about the WebDAV thing.  I have several
problems accessing WebDAV content from my computer at work, but that is due
to network configuration problems, and not specifically Windows related.

--
Jerry

On 6/15/06, Victoria L. Herring <vlherring@herringlaw.com> wrote:
>
> >I have had a lot of PC users tell me they cannot access the "public
> >folder" of my .Mac account.  Does anyone know why this is, and if
> >there is anything I can do to fix it?
>
> I think your public folder is on your iDisk and so you need to go to
> the iDisk part of .Mac in System Preferences and check to see if
> there is a password or anything...there are instructions that I copy
> and email to people...and WIN users have trouble accessing because, I
> think, they have to go thru WebDAV
>
> There's a discussion in .Mac support or help area about how to get
> Windows people [PCs] able to connect to the .Mac site.
> --
> Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination &
> Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research,
> <http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at
> http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com.
> Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State
> Fairgrounds.
> _______________________________________________
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From invite at meetro.com  Fri Jun 16 06:49:03 2006
From: invite at meetro.com (Darcy Baston)
Date: Fri Jun 16 06:49:09 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Darcy Baston has invited you to join Meetro
Message-ID: <20060616114903.3F94F88C169@dude.meetro.com>

Des Moines Mac Users Group, your friend
Darcy Baston (darcybaston@gmail.com) has invited you
to join Meetro! Meetro is an application that overlays the physical
world on top of the online world.  It combines the best features
of messengers and social networks together with location.  

Meetro allows you to meet people local to you while also helping you
keep tabs on what your friends are doing and where they are hanging
out.  Highlights include:

* Location-Based Friendslist
* Profiles & Photos
* Supports (AIM, ICQ, MSN Messenger, Yahoo Messenger)
* Totally Free!

Click on the follow link to join: https://www.meetro.com/register/?invite=35a05237d898a5dd74c185996eaee877
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From ka_klick at mac.com  Fri Jun 16 08:38:10 2006
From: ka_klick at mac.com (Bryan Baker)
Date: Fri Jun 16 08:38:16 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Darcy Baston has invited you to join Meetro
In-Reply-To: <20060616114903.3F94F88C169@dude.meetro.com>
References: <20060616114903.3F94F88C169@dude.meetro.com>
Message-ID: <391F87C7-4A99-4898-B258-60840E7D1DF9@mac.com>

Please do NOT subscribe this list to any other lists or use this  
address for this sort of thing. One of the constant battles I have  
these days is somehow someone thought it would be cool to subscribe  
this list address to dmp - a list at topica an I get several stinking  
subscribe confirmation requests stuck in the list queue per day. I'm  
going to assume that this was a mistake, but please keep this list  
SPAM free - and I consider this SPAM,, and since no one else who has  
the password, seems to do any moderation anymore, it seems I'm the  
list mom. Consider yourself warned.


On Jun 16, 2006, at 6:49 AM, Darcy Baston wrote:
> Des Moines Mac Users Group, your friend Darcy Baston  
> (darcybaston@gmail.com) has invited you to join Meetro! Meetro is  
> an application that overlays the physical world on top of the  
> online world. It combines the best features of messengers and  
> social networks together with location.
>
> Meetro allows you to meet people local to you while also helping  
> you keep tabs on what your friends are doing and where they are  
> hanging out. Highlights include:
>
> Location-Based Friendslist
> Profiles & Photos
> Supports (AIM, ICQ, MSN Messenger, Yahoo Messenger)
> Totally Free!
> Click here to join Meetro.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dmmug mailing list
> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
> Dmmug@dmmug.org
> Use this page to modify subscription options:
> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug

--
Bryan Baker
President
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
http://www.dmmug.org
president@dmmug.org

From darcybaston at gmail.com  Fri Jun 16 07:22:18 2006
From: darcybaston at gmail.com (Darcy Baston)
Date: Fri Jun 16 08:42:00 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Apology for the 'Meetro' email invite
Message-ID: <6422f0bb0606160522q7b009ce5nfa0b8d9deae94b1e@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all:

I was curious about a new instant messenger software called 'Meetro'.
While signing up, I made the mistake of telling it to send out email
invitations to everyone in my GMail address book.

I'm very sorry about this waste of bandwidth and encourage you not to
join Meetro.

If you didn't get one of the invitations, then please forgive THIS message.

Warm wishes,
Darcy
From ka_klick at mac.com  Fri Jun 16 08:48:07 2006
From: ka_klick at mac.com (Bryan Baker)
Date: Fri Jun 16 08:48:12 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Apology for the 'Meetro' email invite
In-Reply-To: <6422f0bb0606160522q7b009ce5nfa0b8d9deae94b1e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6422f0bb0606160522q7b009ce5nfa0b8d9deae94b1e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C784B65C-0030-4BE1-83AF-1C883A288F9F@mac.com>

Thanks for the apology Darcy, we all make mistakes.

This message was stuck (because it was a cc of the message) Didn't  
get to see it before sending out the warning - I assumed it was  
something like that, but I still wanted to say something about being  
careful when signing up for stuff like that - I'm betting that's how  
dmmug got "invited" to DMP - the current bane of my existence.

Please people, be careful about giving anything automated access to  
your address book.

That's the lesson here.


On Jun 16, 2006, at 7:22 AM, Darcy Baston wrote:
> Dear all:
>
> I was curious about a new instant messenger software called 'Meetro'.
> While signing up, I made the mistake of telling it to send out email
> invitations to everyone in my GMail address book.
>
> I'm very sorry about this waste of bandwidth and encourage you not to
> join Meetro.
>
> If you didn't get one of the invitations, then please forgive THIS  
> message.
>
> Warm wishes,
> Darcy
> _______________________________________________
> Dmmug mailing list
> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
> Dmmug@dmmug.org
> Use this page to modify subscription options:
> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug

--
Bryan Baker
President
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
http://www.dmmug.org
president@dmmug.org

From darcybaston at gmail.com  Fri Jun 16 20:33:50 2006
From: darcybaston at gmail.com (Darcy Baston)
Date: Fri Jun 16 20:33:57 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Apology for the 'Meetro' email invite
In-Reply-To: <C784B65C-0030-4BE1-83AF-1C883A288F9F@mac.com>
Message-ID: <C0B8C62E.3075%darcybaston@gmail.com>

There was only good intentions in what you said. I welcomed it and the
lesson is already painfully learned. :)

Darcy


On 6/16/06 8:48 AM, "Bryan Baker" <ka_klick@mac.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the apology Darcy, we all make mistakes.
> 
> This message was stuck (because it was a cc of the message) Didn't
> get to see it before sending out the warning - I assumed it was
> something like that, but I still wanted to say something about being
> careful when signing up for stuff like that - I'm betting that's how
> dmmug got "invited" to DMP - the current bane of my existence.
> 
> Please people, be careful about giving anything automated access to
> your address book.
> 
> That's the lesson here.
> 
> 
> On Jun 16, 2006, at 7:22 AM, Darcy Baston wrote:
>> Dear all:
>> 
>> I was curious about a new instant messenger software called 'Meetro'.
>> While signing up, I made the mistake of telling it to send out email
>> invitations to everyone in my GMail address book.
>> 
>> I'm very sorry about this waste of bandwidth and encourage you not to
>> join Meetro.
>> 
>> If you didn't get one of the invitations, then please forgive THIS
>> message.
>> 
>> Warm wishes,
>> Darcy
>> _______________________________________________
>> Dmmug mailing list
>> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
>> Dmmug@dmmug.org
>> Use this page to modify subscription options:
>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug
> 
> --
> Bryan Baker
> President
> Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
> http://www.dmmug.org
> president@dmmug.org
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Dmmug mailing list
> Use this Address to send mail to the list:
> Dmmug@dmmug.org
> Use this page to modify subscription options:
> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug


From big.smelly at gmail.com  Sat Jun 17 10:30:38 2006
From: big.smelly at gmail.com (Chris R)
Date: Sat Jun 17 10:30:45 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Apology for the 'Meetro' email invite & question
In-Reply-To: <C0B8C62E.3075%darcybaston@gmail.com>
References: <C0B8C62E.3075%darcybaston@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CCFDA326-6BE2-43E0-A0FD-465C89C36958@gmail.com>

Hello All
What is this DMP you speak of? I've gotten on some hard to get rid of  
list's before.

  My biggest problem is that some spammer got hold of the URL  
@kavanaughgallery.com of my gallery and I get 100's of refused emails  
every week. They stick new random names on them and I get to delete  
the "john_doe@kavanaughgallery.com viagra offer" has been refused  
reply emails.

Our galley's URL got on so many anti spam list's that we had to  
switch to our @aol.com address for correspondence to customers.
Any Ideas on how to fix this? Thanks Chris



she is yours.
After a time ...
you may find that having ...
is not so pleasing a thing after all ...
as wanting.
It is not logical,
but it is often true.

From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Sat Jun 17 13:18:42 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Sat Jun 17 13:22:44 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Apology for the 'Meetro' email invite & question
In-Reply-To: <CCFDA326-6BE2-43E0-A0FD-465C89C36958@gmail.com>
References: <C0B8C62E.3075%darcybaston@gmail.com>
	<CCFDA326-6BE2-43E0-A0FD-465C89C36958@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <p06230907c0b9f76a8328@[192.168.0.12]>

>Our galley's URL got on so many anti spam list's that we had to 
>switch to our @aol.com address for correspondence to customers.

You might change your ISP -- I had my herringlaw.com at one that 
evidently was also a spam originator type of place and kept being 
thrown off as a spammer...switched to netINS here in town and no more 
of that...You could also find another domain name 
[thekavanaughgallery.com??  kavanaughgalery.biz??] and set the ISP 
with the old one to forwrad all to a GMail account = it has the best 
spam catching system there is and best spam reporting system there is 
and then you can monitor things and see whther it calms down...mine 
has
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State 
Fairgrounds.
From j.corbett at mchsi.com  Sat Jun 17 18:22:45 2006
From: j.corbett at mchsi.com (James Corbett)
Date: Sat Jun 17 18:22:51 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] External Firewire Drive
Message-ID: <88c948eace30d8e6b5efb7c5035d3d23@mchsi.com>

Good Evening,

       I have a 500 GB Lacie external hard-drive on my firewire 800 that 
is heading south. I had this less than a year and I am disappointed 
that it is failing, but what can you do. I want to see what others are 
using so I can get a idea what I need to look for when I get this 
replace which will be soon.

      I mainly use this device to download audio and video pod-casts and 
to save multimedia files/documents that I find on the net. I would use 
my internal drive, but that will fill up very quickly, since allot of 
pod-casts are in the 50 megabyte range. What luck does others have on 
these drives and what is the manufacture. Thank you so much for your 
input!

James Corbett

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From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Sat Jun 17 18:37:54 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Sat Jun 17 18:38:09 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] External Firewire Drive
In-Reply-To: <88c948eace30d8e6b5efb7c5035d3d23@mchsi.com>
References: <88c948eace30d8e6b5efb7c5035d3d23@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <p06230913c0ba42a12407@[192.168.0.12]>

that hurts!!  I have a number of LaCies, so can't help.  People on 
the MacLaw list that I'm on speak highly of WiebeTech and I can get 
you more info...can you get LaCie to help???

Seagates have a 5 yr warranty as far as I know
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State 
Fairgrounds.
From darcybaston at gmail.com  Sat Jun 17 18:49:47 2006
From: darcybaston at gmail.com (Darcy Baston)
Date: Sat Jun 17 18:49:53 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] External Firewire Drive
In-Reply-To: <88c948eace30d8e6b5efb7c5035d3d23@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <C0B9FF4B.30D2%darcybaston@gmail.com>

I?ve got a 160GB LaCIE Porsche design one. It?s a year old and has been used
for 24 hour backups, or for bringing media captured on trips around. (dry
northern ontario canada, humid Iowa etc.) No problems (yet).

Darcy


On 6/17/06 6:22 PM, "James Corbett" <j.corbett@mchsi.com> wrote:

> Good Evening, 
> 
>       I have a 500 GB Lacie external hard-drive on my firewire 800 that is
> heading south. I had this less than a year and I am disappointed that it is
> failing, but what can you do. I want to see what others are using so I can get
> a idea what I need to look for when I get this replace which will be soon.
> 
>      I mainly use this device to download audio and video pod-casts and to
> save multimedia files/documents that I find on the net. I would use my
> internal drive, but that will fill up very quickly, since allot of pod-casts
> are in the 50 megabyte range. What luck does others have on these drives and
> what is the manufacture. Thank you so much for your input!
> 
> James Corbett 
> 
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From jon at mac-consultant.com  Sat Jun 17 22:25:26 2006
From: jon at mac-consultant.com (Jon Thompson)
Date: Sat Jun 17 22:25:30 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] External Firewire Drive
In-Reply-To: <C0B9FF4B.30D2%darcybaston@gmail.com>
References: <C0B9FF4B.30D2%darcybaston@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <677930A2-6105-4912-BBCC-0437FEEEB8AB@mac-consultant.com>

First, you should have it fixed under warranty if the LaCie is  
failing within a year.
Second, the actual internal media is relatively standard.  If your  
warranty is already expired it would be fairly easy to replace the  
hard drive(s) with a new one, possibly larger than 500 MB.
-- 
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On 2006, Jun 17, at 6:49 PM, Darcy Baston wrote:

> I?ve got a 160GB LaCIE Porsche design one. It?s a year old and has  
> been used for 24 hour backups, or for bringing media captured on  
> trips around. (dry northern ontario canada, humid Iowa etc.) No  
> problems (yet).
>
> Darcy
>
>
> On 6/17/06 6:22 PM, "James Corbett" <j.corbett@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
>> Good Evening,
>>
>>       I have a 500 GB Lacie external hard-drive on my firewire 800  
>> that is heading south. I had this less than a year and I am  
>> disappointed that it is failing, but what can you do. I want to  
>> see what others are using so I can get a idea what I need to look  
>> for when I get this replace which will be soon.
>>
>>      I mainly use this device to download audio and video pod- 
>> casts and to save multimedia files/documents that I find on the  
>> net. I would use my internal drive, but that will fill up very  
>> quickly, since allot of pod-casts are in the 50 megabyte range.  
>> What luck does others have on these drives and what is the  
>> manufacture. Thank you so much for your input!
>>
>> James Corbett
>>
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From maccelerate at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 18 13:50:31 2006
From: maccelerate at earthlink.net (Matthew W.)
Date: Sun Jun 18 13:50:37 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] External Firewire Drive
In-Reply-To: <88c948eace30d8e6b5efb7c5035d3d23@mchsi.com>
References: <88c948eace30d8e6b5efb7c5035d3d23@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <A7D80A2A-B361-4502-A006-9CC237DE5D21@earthlink.net>


On Jun 17, 2006, at 6:22 PM, James Corbett wrote:

> Good Evening,
>
>       I have a 500 GB Lacie external hard-drive on my firewire 800  
> that is heading south. I had this less than a year and I am  
> disappointed that it is failing, but what can you do. I want to see  
> what others are using so I can get a idea what I need to look for  
> when I get this replace which will be soon.

LaCie has spotty hard drive reliability lately (but not CD/DVD). I  
don't know if they got a bad run of drives, or parts to make the  
cases, but I still respect them highly. Have you called to complain?  
IMO, their support has been very good.

Just put a new drive in the old case and you'll probably be okay.  
Don't get less than a 3 yr. warranty on a drive. Most of the OEMs  
(LaCie, MacAlly, Fantom, etc.) include 1-year consumer-grade drives  
inside.

>
>      I mainly use this device to download audio and video pod-casts  
> and to save multimedia files/documents that I find on the net. I  
> would use my internal drive, but that will fill up very quickly,  
> since allot of pod-casts are in the 50 megabyte range. What luck  
> does others have on these drives and what is the manufacture. Thank  
> you so much for your input!

I've used OWC Mercury Elite cases from <http://www.owcomputing.com/>  
and found them to be very solid. I even used the incorrect DC adapter  
on one, and forever after that, the red LED lit. Otherwise, it  
performed perfectly. I've seen and recommended at least 30 of these.  
Never had a problem. I frequently buy my own drive with a 3-5 yr.  
warranty and put it in myself.

> James Corbett

Matthew
From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Tue Jun 20 05:18:23 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Tue Jun 20 05:22:40 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Original G5 2 Ghz Dual video card for sale
Message-ID: <p06230999c0bd7b146181@[192.168.0.12]>

I got the 30" display and had to upgrade to 256mb so I have the 
original nVidia GeForce 6600 LE wiht 128 mb on it for sale.  Would 
like to sell it soon, before I go to eBay.  Let me know off list of 
interest = it's in excellent shape and since the G5 is fairly new, 
fairly unused
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State 
Fairgrounds.
From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Tue Jun 20 16:23:57 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Tue Jun 20 16:32:26 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Help in disagnosing something....not sure what is going on
Message-ID: <p06230906c0be17dfbc95@[192.168.0.12]>

I have iMac G5, fairly new and works fine, at least I thought so.  I
have LaCie FW backup drive which also works fine but I noticed that
sometimes when I restart the main computer it won't load on top =
isn't even seeable to be mounted via disk utility.  However if I pull
out the cable from port 1 in back of the iMac and put it in port 2,
then the LaCie loads on the desktop.

I repaired permissions and tried to restart the computer then but got
the spinning beachball of death [plenty of ram and all works fine]
but it won't stop so I try to forcequit and it won't let me do that
either, there's no indication of something not responding and I can't
forcequit either.  So I finally held down the restart/power button
and turned off the computer.

I started up the computer and this time, the FW LaCie [which had
remained in Port 2] did not mount onto the desktop, again.  I checked
Disk Utility again but it didn't see it and didn't mount it.  I
switched its plug back to Port 1 and voila, the LaCie mounted on
desktop.

Then I went to do a get info on the LaCie and again got the spinning
beachball and nothing stopped so tried to do a force quit - it said
the Finder was not responding.  So I again turned off the comptuer by
holding down power button.

Well, the LaCie didn't load up again, tho it is plugged into the Port
that it had shown up on.

I suppose it's more than a LaCie issue or port or cable issue, all
this futzing around with the Finder too and restart issues ==

Where do I start?
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Civil Rights, Discrimination & 
Employment Law, <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, 
<http://www.JourneyZing.com> and /blog;   Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com  and http://www.buyiowaart.com. 
Upcoming show:  ArtFest Midwest, Des Moines, June 24-25th, Iowa State 
Fairgrounds.
From haefele at mchsi.com  Mon Jun 26 22:17:35 2006
From: haefele at mchsi.com (Douglas)
Date: Mon Jun 26 22:17:38 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] How to fix OS X Help Viewer
Message-ID: <9253C1A4-0051-4893-A4B8-BA4F9E94B623@mchsi.com>

Hi Everyone,

The problem - launching Help Viewer opens a Connect to Server dialog  
on top of the Help Viewer window.
The System - An OS X box (10.4.6)
Other information - only happens on one user's account not others on  
the same system.
I've tried - removing all System and User preferences and caches  
related to Help Viewer but no joy.

Any thoughts much appreciated.

Thanks, Doug



---------
Law of Irretrievability - Irreplaceable objects always come to rest  
in inaccessible locations.


From ka_klick at mac.com  Mon Jun 26 22:31:27 2006
From: ka_klick at mac.com (Bryan Baker)
Date: Mon Jun 26 22:31:36 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Meeting Tuesday (tomorrow) night
Message-ID: <DE8D98C6-A3F7-4A88-AE8B-698200566D5E@mac.com>

Once again, the month has flown by and it is time for another meeting.
Anyone have any bright ideas or crying needs?



--
Bryan Baker
President
Des Moines Macintosh Users Group
http://www.dmmug.org
president@dmmug.org

From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Mon Jun 26 22:43:05 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Mon Jun 26 22:46:43 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] How to fix OS X Help Viewer
In-Reply-To: <9253C1A4-0051-4893-A4B8-BA4F9E94B623@mchsi.com>
References: <9253C1A4-0051-4893-A4B8-BA4F9E94B623@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <p0623091bc0c6599da03c@[10.2.102.172]>

Onyx. a free utility will reset the Help info in its various 
actions...find it at versiontracker, must be run in Admin account
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Discrimination & Employment Law, 
<http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, planning & 
photography, <http://www.JourneyZing.com>.  Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com.  Upcoming show at ArtFestMidwest, Des 
Moines June 24-26, Iowa State Fairgrounds.

From vlherring at herringlaw.com  Mon Jun 26 22:44:24 2006
From: vlherring at herringlaw.com (Victoria L. Herring)
Date: Mon Jun 26 22:46:45 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] Meeting Tuesday (tomorrow) night
In-Reply-To: <DE8D98C6-A3F7-4A88-AE8B-698200566D5E@mac.com>
References: <DE8D98C6-A3F7-4A88-AE8B-698200566D5E@mac.com>
Message-ID: <p0623091cc0c659d4ad28@[10.2.102.172]>

I am out of town so can't help, but some day when I've been able to 
do a keynote or some other type of thing I can do show and tell....I 
would suggest one topic for geeks and one for newbies....try to do 
something for everyone....
-- 
Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Discrimination & Employment Law, 
<http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, planning & 
photography, <http://www.JourneyZing.com>.  Photographs at 
http://victoriajz.smugmug.com.

From haefele at mchsi.com  Tue Jun 27 19:31:48 2006
From: haefele at mchsi.com (Douglas)
Date: Tue Jun 27 19:31:51 2006
Subject: [DM-MUG] How to fix OS X Help Viewer
In-Reply-To: <p0623091bc0c6599da03c@[10.2.102.172]>
References: <9253C1A4-0051-4893-A4B8-BA4F9E94B623@mchsi.com>
	<p0623091bc0c6599da03c@[10.2.102.172]>
Message-ID: <CA33B603-F98B-4650-AAF7-85A052C15C57@mchsi.com>


Thanks, Victoria, I forgot to mention that I've also tried Cocktail,  
OnyX, and CliX. No help.

I must be missing something in the logic of what triggers the  
"Connect to Server" dialog box.

Thanks, Doug


On Jun 26, 2006, at 10:43 PM, Victoria L. Herring wrote:

> Onyx. a free utility will reset the Help info in its various  
> actions...find it at versiontracker, must be run in Admin account
> -- 
> Victoria L. Herring, Attorney, Discrimination & Employment Law,  
> <http://www.HerringLaw.com>;  Travel research, planning &  
> photography, <http://www.JourneyZing.com>.  Photographs at http:// 
> victoriajz.smugmug.com.  Upcoming show at ArtFestMidwest, Des  
> Moines June 24-26, Iowa State Fairgrounds.
>
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From haefele at mchsi.com  Tue Jun 27 21:28:41 2006
From: haefele at mchsi.com (Douglas)
Date: Tue Jun 27 21:28:45 2006
Subject: Solved and follow-up question - Re: [DM-MUG] How to fix OS X Help
	Viewer
In-Reply-To: <9253C1A4-0051-4893-A4B8-BA4F9E94B623@mchsi.com>
References: <9253C1A4-0051-4893-A4B8-BA4F9E94B623@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <5A1ABC2E-A7A8-44E5-A474-68B9685DCDE4@mchsi.com>


Found some information here: http://forums.macosxhints.com/ 
showthread.php?t=295

This article got me to the idea that running Help Viewer from within  
another application that is accessing a file on another box could be  
the problem. Deleting all the preferences for applications that the  
user might have run on remote files has resolved the problem.

Any ideas how to "see" the specific request being made and get to a  
more elegant solution than blindly deleting preference files?

Thanks, Doug

On Jun 26, 2006, at 10:17 PM, Douglas wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> The problem - launching Help Viewer opens a Connect to Server  
> dialog on top of the Help Viewer window.
> The System - An OS X box (10.4.6)
> Other information - only happens on one user's account not others  
> on the same system.
> I've tried - removing all System and User preferences and caches  
> related to Help Viewer but no joy.
>
> Any thoughts much appreciated.
>
> Thanks, Doug
>
>
>
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>
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