An email of some interest, perhaps. Ref. Macs in Schools

From dmmug@dmmug.org Fri Jan 2 17:22:24 2004 From: dmmug@dmmug.org (Chris Rinehart) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 11:22:24 -0600 Subject: [DM-MUG] Icon tool bar help needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3AD1B9B9-3D48-11D8-B780-003065C81C54@mindspring.com> Hello I was wondering if anyone had any experience with AOL broadband. I have set up several mixed networks with ATT cable modems and such but my mother and stepfather use AOL. Specifically an Imac and a Toshiba laptop sharing one AOL broadband connection. Any suggestions or anecdotes would be helpful. Thanks and best wishes for the new year to you all. Chris Someday you will find that there is a difference between wanting and having. Http://www.kavanaughgallery.com From dmmug@dmmug.org Tue Jan 6 03:29:58 2004 From: dmmug@dmmug.org (Allen Huffman) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 21:29:58 -0600 Subject: [DM-MUG] iBook Special Edition for sale In-Reply-To: <3FE76FB0.2040300@optonline.net> References: <3FE76FB0.2040300@optonline.net> Message-ID: <9A5E58AC-3FF8-11D8-8626-000A95983AB4@pobox.com> A coworker of mine has an iBook special edition he is going to list on e-Bay, but I told him I'd pass the information on here in case anyone local was interested. Here's his description: "About the iBook. It is all boxed up in the original box. It is an iBook special edition. It has the clam shell design. It is graphite in color. It has a PPC 466Mhz processor, with 192 MB of DRAM (64 on board, with 128 SODIM). It is in good condition. There are no bad pixels or scratches or anything like that on the LCD screen. It has the original box with the original CD's, and the cord to hook to video/audio. It also has a clam shell carrying case, although it is the lime color, and not the graphite." He's priced what they go for on e-Bay so that's his fall back, but I think he'd prefer to deal locally if possible. Drop me a note if interested and I'll get him in touch with you. Allen From dmmug@dmmug.org Tue Jan 6 13:27:06 2004 From: dmmug@dmmug.org (dmmug@dmmug.org) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 08:27:06 EST Subject: [DM-MUG] iMac firmware upgrade problem Message-ID: <144.1fe33492.2d2c11aa@aol.com> -------------------------------1073395625 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I bought some RAM recently and tried to test it in my iMac DVD (400Mhz). My iMac didn't see the RAM. After looking up the iMAc on lowendmac.com I discovered that the firmware upgrade we made to the computer may have effected its ability to recognize RAM not produced by Apple. What a great ploy by Apple to sell their own RAM. Anyway, has anyone heard of this problem and if so, has anyone heard if Apple release another update to get rid of this problem. Online, I read where one person basically lost all the memory they had added to their computer. Chris Stout PS. The RAM is the correct type and configuration for the iMAc. PC-100 SDRAM. -------------------------------1073395625 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I bought some RAM recently and tried to test it in my iMac DVD (400Mhz)= . My iMac didn't see the RAM. After looking up the iMAc on lowendmac.c= om I discovered that the firmware upgrade we made to the computer may have e= ffected its ability to recognize RAM not produced by Apple. What a gre= at ploy by Apple to sell their own RAM. Anyway, has anyone heard of th= is problem and if so, has anyone heard if Apple release another update to ge= t rid of this problem. Online, I read where one person basically lost=20= all the memory they had added to their computer.

Chris Stout

PS. The RAM is the correct type and configuration for the iMAc.&n= bsp; PC-100 SDRAM.

-------------------------------1073395625-- From dmmug@dmmug.org Tue Jan 6 13:39:38 2004 From: dmmug@dmmug.org (Allen Huffman) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 07:39:38 -0600 Subject: [DM-MUG] iMac firmware upgrade problem In-Reply-To: <144.1fe33492.2d2c11aa@aol.com> References: <144.1fe33492.2d2c11aa@aol.com> Message-ID: Chris, There *was* a firmware "issue" with Apple a few years ago, but it was (for the most part?) resolved. RAM vendors had to make sure their memory met certain requirements and Apple was merely checking for that (even if it worked fine not meeting those requirements). There were patches on the 'net you could use to "reprogram" certain RAM, sorta, to be recognized, and most RAM vendors at the time started making sure their RAM read properly for Apples. I don't remember many details, but I'm surprised you'd find RAM today that was not recognized. I do know, at the time, a big stink was raised 'cause systems that worked fine suddenly did not recognize RAM after the update. A net search should lead to a few pages that were made back then dealing with how you could upgrade RAM to be recognized. Sorry I don't recall specifics. I do remember dealing with this before I ordered RAM for one of my systems back then. Allen From dmmug@dmmug.org Tue Jan 6 19:05:58 2004 From: dmmug@dmmug.org (Bryan Baker) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 13:05:58 -0600 Subject: [DM-MUG] Macworld Stevenote Message-ID: <5C9C349A-407B-11D8-AE70-000A958E4EB0@mac.com> Quick summary, Steve just finished. FC Express 2 - $299, $99 upgrade Office 2004 Virginia Tech G5 Supercluster tour XServe G5 - $2999 - $3999 XServe Raid - up to 3.5 terabytes - $5999 - $10999 iTunes Music Store - Billboard Chart iLife 2 - $49, free on new machines iTunes 4.x iPhoto 3 (beefed up performance, smart albums, ratings, rendezvous sharing) iMovie 4 (iSight import, trim in place - non destructive, audio scrub, better titles, etc., sharing) iDVD 4 (new themes, new menus, new transitions, pro encoding, 2hrs on a DVD at pro quality, portable burning, project map) GarageBand (ProMusic studio - for the rest of us, 64 tracks, 50 soft instruments, 200 effects, guitar amp sim) Jam Pack for Garage Band (more of everything) $99 49 key USB MIDI keyboard. 15 GB iPod - $299 (same price as 10GB it replaces) In ear headphones - $39 iPod Mini - 4GB - .5" thick - $249 -- Bryan Baker Vice-President Des Moines Macintosh Users Group http://www.dmmug.org vice-president@dmmug.org From dmmug@dmmug.org Tue Jan 6 20:30:39 2004 From: dmmug@dmmug.org (Victoria L. Herring) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:30:39 -0600 Subject: [DM-MUG] An email of some interest, perhaps. Ref. Macs in Schools Message-ID: --============_-1138701164==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Begin forwarded message: >From: Jodie Butler >Date: January 6, 2004 7:59:02 AM CST >To: victoriaherring@mac.com >Subject: Fwd: Business Task Force in Des Moines wants laptops in schools > >Victoria, > >Let me introduce myself. I'm from Des Moines and have worked on >supporting this effort in Iowa. I'd be happy to meet with you or >chat with you at your convenience. We have three account executives >in Iowa and a few other people (the higher education account >executive in Des Moines is Stan Ethington and the K-20 account >executive is Ed Cranston, Iowa City). > >Thanks for your interest. > >Jodie Butler >Manager, Strategic Initiatives >Apple Computer, Inc. >515-440-3673 office > >Begin forwarded message: > >>>Subject: Business Task Force in Des Moines wants laptops in schools >>> >>>I didn't know who else to direct this to, so am doing so to you in >>>the hope that someone in Apple Marketing or Education can take the >>>ball and run with it. >>> >>>Today's Des Moines Register reported that a business task force >>>has suggested putting laptops in schools and letting the kids take >>>them home. >>> >>>That would have been wonderful 10 years ago but over the years >>>there has been a steady erosion in use of Apples/Macs in the DM >>>public schools such that now they're almost hostile to them >>>(they've been steadily replacing the Macs with Dells). The same >>>is true of our hometown university, Drake University, as well, by >>>the way. >>> >>>We Mac users keep fighting but it's an uphill battle. But if >>>Apple Marketing or Education were to find out who to work with >>>maybe this can be a win win thing. >>> Thank you. -- Victoria L. Herring, Des Moines, Iowa - Owner, http://www.JourneyZing.com - Your Source for Customized Trip & Travel Research and Attorney at Law, for civil rights, discrimination and employment law matters: http://www.herringlaw.com. Ph. 515/255-4475; iChat AV: victoriaherring@mac.com. --============_-1138701164==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" An email of some interest, perhaps. Ref. Macs in Schools

Begin forwarded message:

From: Jodie Butler <jbutler@apple.com>

Date: January 6, 2004 7:59:02 AM CST

To: victoriaherring@mac.com

Subject: Fwd: Business Task Force in Des Moines wants laptops in schools

Victoria,

Let me introduce myself. I'm from Des Moines and have worked on supporting this effort in Iowa. I'd be happy to meet with you or chat with you at your convenience. We have three account executives in Iowa and a few other people (the higher education account executive in Des Moines is Stan Ethington and the K-20 account executive is Ed Cranston, Iowa City).

Thanks for your interest.

Jodie Butler

Manager, Strategic Initiatives

Apple Computer, Inc.

515-440-3673 office

Begin forwarded message:

Subject: Business Task Force in Des Moines wants laptops in schools

I didn't know who else to direct this to, so am doing so to you in the hope that someone in Apple Marketing or Education can take the ball and run with it.

Today's Des Moines Register reported that a business task force has suggested putting laptops in schools and letting the kids take them home.

That would have been wonderful 10 years ago but over the years there has been a steady erosion in use of Apples/Macs in the DM public schools such that now they're almost hostile to them (they've been steadily replacing the Macs with Dells). The same is true of our hometown university, Drake University, as well, by the way.

We Mac users keep fighting but it's an uphill battle. But if Apple Marketing or Education were to find out who to work with maybe this can be a win win thing.

Thank you.

--

Victoria L. Herring, Des Moines, Iowa - Owner, http://www.JourneyZing.com - Your Source for Customized Trip & Travel Research and Attorney at Law, for civil rights, discrimination and employment law matters: http://www.herringlaw.com. Ph. 515/255-4475; iChat AV: victoriaherring@mac.com.

--============_-1138701164==_ma============-- From dmmug@dmmug.org Mon Jan 12 17:52:08 2004 From: dmmug@dmmug.org (Bailey Ford) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:52:08 -0600 Subject: [DM-MUG] Excellent OS X hint Message-ID: <0A6C72C0-4528-11D8-ADB6-00039357E9AE@mac.com> Hey there all. There is a really excellent little article over at macosxhints.com that covers most of the basic and intermediate level tasks that one might use to fix problems on their OS X mac. Check it out if you are interested at http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2004011205473937. -bailey From dmmug@dmmug.org Mon Jan 12 19:44:56 2004 From: dmmug@dmmug.org (Kay & Don Peterson) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 13:44:56 -0600 Subject: [DM-MUG] Excellent OS X hint In-Reply-To: <0A6C72C0-4528-11D8-ADB6-00039357E9AE@mac.com> References: <0A6C72C0-4528-11D8-ADB6-00039357E9AE@mac.com> Message-ID: Bailey: The problem was at this end and it is fixed now. For some reason my modem was shut off. Duh. Thanks Don On Jan 12, 2004, at 11:52 AM, Bailey Ford wrote: > Hey there all. > > There is a really excellent little article over at macosxhints.com > that covers most of the basic and intermediate level tasks that one > might use to fix problems on their OS X mac. Check it out if you are > interested at > http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2004011205473937. > > -bailey > > _______________________________________________ > Dmmug mailing list > Dmmug@dmmug.org > http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug > From dmmug@dmmug.org Wed Jan 14 14:43:23 2004 From: dmmug@dmmug.org (Victoria L. Herring) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 08:43:23 -0600 Subject: [DM-MUG] [MacLaw] Fwd: Discussing your iChat idea by phone call or iChat Message-ID: >Des Moines is a leader in Mock Trial education by the way. > >Okay, I didn't start it but will be sure to get them in touch with >Daleehibbard...but this is great, don't you think??? Vicky > >>To: vlherring@herringlaw.com >>Cc: Jodie Butler , Steve Richley >>Subject: Discussing your iChat idea by phone call or iChat >>From: Kent Foster >>Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:15:10 -0800 >>X-Loop-Detect:1 >>Status: >> >>When would be a good time to discuss your idea by phone or iChat? >> >>Best regards, >> >>--Kent Foster >> >> >>Kent Foster | Apple Computer >>Regional Manager | Education >>734.834.7293 | 2232 S. Main Street #462 > >kfoster@apple.com | Ann Arbor, MI 48103-6938 >> > > > > >>>From: "Victoria L. Herring" >>>Date: January 13, 2004 11:33:41 AM CST >>>To: jbutler@apple.com >>>Subject: This might be an interesting idea for Apple >>>> >>>>I am inquiring as to the suitability of iChat for an on-line mock >>>>trial. A few years ago I had suggested an on-line mock trial between >>>>a high school team my sister advises in Michigan and the local team >>>>here in NJ. It never happened for a number of reasons including lack >>>>of technical ability by myself and people at the school. >>>> >>>>First: Are you aware of any on-line mock trials previously held? If >>>>so, do you know a contact person? >>>> >>>>Second: Would iChat be suitable for such an endeavor? I do not have >>>>a web cam so I don't know the answer to this. Would a DSL/cable feed >>>>be fast enough for the usual give and take in a courtroom? >>>> >>>>Third: Do you think Apple would be interested in providing support as >>>>chat demonstration? To whom would I direct an inquiry? I assume the >>>>Michigan end is Wintel. They were anxious to participate. >>>>Fourth:If all else is a go would any list mates be interested in >>>>providing guidance and support? From the few prior posting by me you >>>>can tell I am a .5 on the technical savvy scale. >>>> > >>>TIA > >>> -- Democracy in Action, the Iowa Caucuses == Monday, January 19th (arrive at 6:30 p.m.). I'm supporting John Kerry for President because of his ability to address both domestic and foreign issues comprehensively and meaningfully, and hope you will attend and support him likewise. Questions? http://www.johnkerry.com. Thanks much, Victoria L. Herring From dmmug@dmmug.org Tue Jan 20 03:43:08 2004 From: dmmug@dmmug.org (Allen Huffman) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:43:08 -0600 Subject: [DM-MUG] DSM Mac user on the news ... in Dallas ... sorta. Message-ID: Just for grins... A Dallas TV crew was by the Breakroom Cybe Cafe on Saturday late-afternoon and I made sure I got the Mac some airtime. RealMedia clip: http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?SID=5660845 -- Over 25,000 digital pics from Disney, Theme Parks, and Ren Fests! Visit http://www.AtTheFaire.com or http://www.DisneyFans.com From dmmug@dmmug.org Wed Jan 21 07:31:16 2004 From: dmmug@dmmug.org (Allen Huffman) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 01:31:16 -0600 Subject: [DM-MUG] Earthlink Accelerator for Mac Message-ID: I did not realize Earthlink had released the Accelerator for Macs until two days ago. Check it out, if you sub to E-Link. You can even make it work across an Airport base station that is dialed into the internet (but Earthlink can't tell you how -- clueless!). -- Allen From dmmug@dmmug.org Sun Jan 25 00:19:42 2004 From: dmmug@dmmug.org (Chris Tyrrell) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 18:19:42 -0600 Subject: [DM-MUG] Local developer seeks testers Message-ID: <2C0D9C3E-4ECC-11D8-93A4-000A27933462@mchsi.com> Greetings all. Over the past 2-3 years, I've been working in my rare free time on an application with the ultimate goal of releasing it as shareware to supplement my income. "Satchmo" is essentially Windows Explorer for the Mac. There's still much to be done, but it's stable enough that I'm ready for others to start looking at it and offering feedback. http://tyrrell.home.mchsi.com/satchmo/ I'd be grateful for any feedback my fellow Mac bigots would care to offer. And if I ever get this thing off the ground far enough to start charging for it, I'll make it available to y'all free. If it's really successful, I'll quit my day job and do this full time. Sincerely, Chris Tyrrell Des Moines From dmmug@dmmug.org Wed Jan 28 05:56:15 2004 From: dmmug@dmmug.org (Matthew Wheeler) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 23:56:15 -0600 Subject: [DM-MUG] iMovie 4 2GB limit Message-ID: iMovie 4 still has the 2GB import limit. Apple did update the error dialogue box to essentially tell me the same thing it did in v.3. Fact remains that I cannot get 12 GB .dv files into iMovie. I use the Formac Studio TVR (which I do not recommend doing) to record scheduled programs. These programs are large! I don't have time for QuickTime Pro (which I have) to take an hour to re-render each split clip (X 6 theoretically). Any brainy suggestions? From dmmug@dmmug.org Thu Jan 29 17:56:56 2004 From: dmmug@dmmug.org (Allen Huffman) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:56:56 -0800 Subject: [DM-MUG] iMovie 4 2GB limit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Matthew, Drop the .dv file into the Media folder inside the iMovie project, then open the project. It will find "unknown" files and ask if you want to move them to the Clip Shelf. Doing this will let you bring in files larger than 2GB. I stumbled into this myself recently when dealing with some 3-D video I am working on. If you have any iMovie/iDVD issues, feel free to hollar at me. I have pretty much broken everything there is to be broken in iMovie and iDVD with the large projects I work on. -- Allen From dmmug@dmmug.org Tue Jan 27 20:43:10 2004 From: dmmug@dmmug.org (Judy Schwartz) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 14:43:10 -0600 Subject: [DM-MUG] The Meeting Tonight Message-ID: <6B412708-5109-11D8-942C-000A9596164C@netins.net> Hi all! Just a quick reminder of the meeting tonight, 7pm in the CompUSA Training room area. The topic for discussion will be Macworld and all the goodies it has revealed. Join us if you can! -- Judy Schwartz President, Des Moines Macintosh User Group From dmmug@dmmug.org Thu Jan 29 20:25:38 2004 From: dmmug@dmmug.org (Judy Schwartz) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:25:38 -0600 Subject: [DM-MUG] The Meeting notice... Message-ID: <4CF46B7C-5299-11D8-93D2-000A9596164C@netins.net> Hey guys, Sorry about the announcement after the fact. Our email and web server was down (unbeknownst to all of us) so the announcement did not get posted in a timely fashion. SO... the meeting was Tuesday night the 27th, NOT Tonight! Our topic for discussion was Macworld and a quick review of the new iLife suite. Bryan even prepared some quick loops in Garage Band to demonstrate its potential for fun stuff. Also discussed was importing larger than 2G files into iMovie and iDVD. (as posted by Matt earlier) I mentioned that iPhoto seems to have a much faster response time than it used to ... (no more spinning beachball and a mind numbing wait for it to load in the latest incarnation). We then digressed into various discussions about fun stuff on the web. We adjourned at 8:50. SO ... mark your iCal now for our next meeting on Feb 24th. Our program is scheduled to be about Acrobat and PDF. Hope to see you there! -- Judy Schwartz President, Des Moines Macintosh User Group From dmmug@dmmug.org Thu Jan 29 21:44:04 2004 From: dmmug@dmmug.org (Bryan Baker) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:44:04 -0600 Subject: [DM-MUG] The Meeting notice... In-Reply-To: <4CF46B7C-5299-11D8-93D2-000A9596164C@netins.net> References: <4CF46B7C-5299-11D8-93D2-000A9596164C@netins.net> Message-ID: <42426939-52A4-11D8-9276-000A958E4EB0@mac.com> On Jan 29, 2004, at 2:25 PM, Judy Schwartz wrote: > Hey guys, > Sorry about the announcement after the fact. Our email and web server > was down (unbeknownst to all of us) so the announcement did not get > posted in a timely fashion. SO... the meeting was Tuesday night the > 27th, NOT Tonight! > Our topic for discussion was Macworld and a quick review of the new > iLife suite. Bryan even prepared some quick loops in Garage Band to > demonstrate its potential for fun stuff. Also discussed was importing > larger than 2G files into iMovie and iDVD. (as posted by Matt earlier) > I mentioned that iPhoto seems to have a much faster response time than > it used to ... (no more spinning beachball and a mind numbing wait for > it to load in the latest incarnation). We then digressed into various > discussions about fun stuff on the web. We adjourned at 8:50. > SO ... mark your iCal now for our next meeting on Feb 24th. Our > program is scheduled to be about Acrobat and PDF. Hope to see you > there! > > -- Judy Schwartz > President, Des Moines Macintosh User Group > > _______________________________________________ > Dmmug mailing list > Dmmug@dmmug.org > http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/dmmug > -- Bryan Baker Technology Advocate Iowa Legal Aid Suite 230 1111 9th Street Des Moines, Ia 50314-2527 (515) 243-2151 (x1635) bbaker@iowalaw.org From dmmug@dmmug.org Thu Jan 29 21:45:41 2004 From: dmmug@dmmug.org (Bryan Baker) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:45:41 -0600 Subject: [DM-MUG] The Meeting notice... In-Reply-To: <4CF46B7C-5299-11D8-93D2-000A9596164C@netins.net> References: <4CF46B7C-5299-11D8-93D2-000A9596164C@netins.net> Message-ID: <7C2529EE-52A4-11D8-9276-000A958E4EB0@mac.com> This time I'll actually try to reply! No need to mark them, just subscribe to ours by going to the website, clicking on the calendar link and clicking on the subscribe button. On Jan 29, 2004, at 2:25 PM, Judy Schwartz wrote: > SO ... mark your iCal now for our next meeting on Feb 24th. Our > program is scheduled to be about Acrobat and PDF. Hope to see you > there! -- Bryan Baker Technology Advocate Iowa Legal Aid Suite 230 1111 9th Street Des Moines, Ia 50314-2527 (515) 243-2151 (x1635) bbaker@iowalaw.org From dmmug@dmmug.org Fri Jan 30 01:51:23 2004 From: dmmug@dmmug.org (Ray Bowler) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 19:51:23 -0600 Subject: [DM-MUG] TurboTax Premier for Home and Business 2003 Message-ID: I am having trouble getting Intuit to exchange my Turbotax Premier for Home and Business 2003 for the Mac which had a defective CD. I am thinking of cancelling the order and purchasing it elsewhere but I cannot seem to find it on the Internet. I find plenty for Windoze. I can't even find it in the Apple on line Store. The local CompUSA didn't have any on display Tuesday night. Does anyone have a suggestion about where to find it--or where to find an equivalent in Tax Cut? The business part is essential. -- �� "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) ��