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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I know Tony has a good understanding of Propel. I’m also
wondering what other ORM software is available, either open source or
commercial (on a cheap budget).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I’d be very interested in seeing Zend Amf.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Carl Olsen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
ciapug-bounces@cialug.org [mailto:ciapug-bounces@cialug.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Wade
Arnold<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 11, 2009 4:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Central Iowa PHP Users Group<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Central Iowa PHP Users Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ciapug] Fwd: O'Reilly User Group and Professional
AssociationProgram<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I would be willing to give a talk on amfphp and more
specificslly Zend Amf. <span class=apple-style-span>I have a pretty good
understanding of both.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span>I have given talks on using
phpunit and your first 5 patterns for php if either are interesting. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span>I would also like to hear
something on ORM such as propel. I believe mr Bibbs is the man on this? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span>Really like idea of a talk on
when to use stored procedures vs models and controllers. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span>Wade Arnold</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Jan 11, 2009, at 3:14 PM, "Carl Olsen" <<a
href="mailto:carl-olsen@mchsi.com">carl-olsen@mchsi.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’ve
also started using amfphp to create and consume xml from Flash, so that would
also be another topic.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:ciapug-bounces@cialug.org">ciapug-bounces@cialug.org</a> [<a
href="mailto:ciapug-bounces@cialug.org">mailto:ciapug-bounces@cialug.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Carl Olsen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 11, 2009 3:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Central Iowa PHP Users Group'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [ciapug] Fwd: O'Reilly User Group and Professional
Association Program</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’m
interested.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’m
interested in things like Propel for generating classes of objects from
databases and databases from classes of objects. I’m also interested in
the new features for PHP 5.3, such as namespaces or whatever they decided to
throw in. Those are things I might actually start using right away.
I’d also like to hear about more advanced features that may be coming, such as
whatever they plan to throw into PHP 6.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’m
also interested in Frameworks, like Symfony and the Zend Framework. I’m
using Symfony now, but haven’t had time to look at the Zend Framework.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’m
also interested in complimentary programming such as JavaScript JQuery and
MySQL programming (when to use stored procedures and when not to use them, for
example).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Carl</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:ciapug-bounces@cialug.org">ciapug-bounces@cialug.org</a> [<a
href="mailto:ciapug-bounces@cialug.org">mailto:ciapug-bounces@cialug.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Tony Bibbs<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 09, 2009 3:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ciapug@cialug.org">ciapug@cialug.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ciapug] Fwd: O'Reilly User Group and Professional Association
Program</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Submitted
the O'Reilly one (see below). I will let you all know if we get accepted.<br>
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Probably might help if we tried to actually meet here once in a while ;-)
Any interest?<br>
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--Tony<o:p></o:p></p>
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Date: Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 3:06 PM<br>
Subject: O'Reilly User Group and Professional Association Program<br>
To: <a href="mailto:tony@tonybibbs.com">tony@tonybibbs.com</a><br>
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-- <br>
Tony Bibbs<br>
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515.554.8046<br>
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