[ciapug] Hello...and what time is Monday's meeting?

Carl Olsen carl-olsen at mchsi.com
Sun Sep 30 19:37:01 CDT 2007


Yes, I do PHP and MySQL at work, and some occasional Java (.jsp).

I do contract work on the side and I like .NET (I've also used Mono on
Linux).  I'm one of the founding members of the IADNUG.

>From what I can see of this new PHP tool (plug in for Eclipse?), it looks
good: http://www.zend.com/pdt

Zend Studio costs around $300.

See you tomorrow!

Carl

-----Original Message-----
From: ciapug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:ciapug-bounces at cialug.org] On Behalf
Of Bill Davis
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 6:41 PM
To: Central Iowa PHP Users Group
Subject: Re: [ciapug] Hello...and what time is Monday's meeting?

On Sep 30, 2007, at 6:00 PM, Carl Olsen wrote:

> I'm writing an application in C# right now.  It's a real estate web  
> site for
> a non-profit, so anyone can list a property for free.  I would  
> imagine the
> properties have to be in some sort of target area.  There will be a  
> search
> tool for people looking for these properties.

Cool.  Do you go to the IADNUG meeting too?

> I re-code the property search for Hubbell Realty several times, but  
> that was done in PHP.  This will be
> very similar.

I'm assuming you do contracting work on the side?

> I'm working on the photo piece now which involved graphic
> manipulation for the images. There will be full and thumb sizes,  
> and I'm
> storing the originals just in case I want to use them later.  I'm  
> allowing
> input files to be in .gif, .jpg, .tif, .png, and .bmp, and then  
> outputting
> them all in .jpg.  I have the code for this posted on my web site
>
> http://www.carlswebs.com/modules/newsmanager/shownews.aspx?NewsID=51
>
> but it's in .NET 1.1 and I'm doing this piece in .NET 2.0.
>
> I think Visual Studio now supports both Ruby and Python, but I'm  
> not sure.

Yep.  www.sapphiresteel.com and www.ironpython.com (gods, I love  
Google.  I'm actually shocked when I CAN'T find anything instantly on  
Google.)

The above redirects to http://www.codeplex.com/Wiki/View.aspx? 
ProjectName=IronPython

>
> I'm doing this entire project in Visual Studio 2005 Express Edition  
> (free)
> which now allows the SQL Server database (also free) to exist  
> inside the web
> site and all the class files are compiled on the server on the  
> first run so
> I don't have to compile them separately any more.  I'm doing all  
> the stored
> procedures in Visual Studio, so I never leave the application or  
> the IDE for
> the whole thing, which is a huge improvement over the way I was  
> coding my
> .NET 1.1 applications (plus the cost of those tools which were not  
> free).

Ack!  I forgot about the Express Editions!   I'll check 'em out  
ASAP.   Thanx!

> It's a lot more like PHP now (although I still use a separate tool  
> for MySQL
> - just too lazy to learn how to do it in Zend Studio).  Zend Studio  
> isn't
> free, but I just downloaded the new Eclipse thing for Zend and its  
> free (it
> looks good from what I've seen so far - which is not much).

I need to re-load Forte or NetBeans or Eclipse or one those Java  
IDEs, too.  We used Forte in the DMACC class.

Maybe one under Windows and under Mac OS X....

Not familiar with Zend Studio (it's time to visit Google again...)

I basically know nothing about PHP at this point; the first thing I  
searched for after finding the web site was a local users group.   
I'll be looking at PHP and Python all next week, probably.  Using the  
php and python (and ruby) languages already built into my Mac in OS X.

Thanks!  I look forward to meeting you tomorrow.

  - Bill

>
> Carl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ciapug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:ciapug-bounces at cialug.org]  
> On Behalf
> Of Bill Davis
> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 5:42 PM
> To: Central Iowa PHP Users Group
> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Hello...and what time is Monday's meeting?
>
> On Sep 30, 2007, at 4:54 PM, Carl Olsen wrote:
>
>> It's the first Monday of the month unless that is a holiday (then I
>> think it
>> is the first Tuesday).
>
> Thanks! I like regular ones, so I can set up a repeating reminder in
> my PDA so I won't forget.
>
>> I took the Invitation to Computer Science class but
>> I'm too busy to keep on taking classes.  I was amazed at how much I
>> learned
>> in that class.  I thought I already knew it all.  Just kidding.
>
> I programmed most recently in Visual Basic 6 for about 7 years and
> VMS Basic and DCL for 9 years, and NEVER thought I knew it all
> despite learning new stuff constantly.
>
> I'm presently trying to find projects to do to learn more about Java
> (taken 3 courses at DMACC a couple of years ago), JavaScript, VB.NET
> or C#.NET (taken some courses in ASP.NET and SQL Server last year),
> PHP, Python (can't find a local group, looks like there was one once
> though but the link to the Pyowa mailing list points to CIALUG's
> mailing list page.)  Also very interested in Ruby which just had a
> local group just start up  (www.iowaruby.org) though there's no call
> for it here locally to speak of...but I keep reading about it and
> Rails in the professional and trade press so  I figure it might be
> wise to start to learn about it NOW.
>
> All that's going to take a while, obviously!   Meanwhile I'm also
> trying to find a job...which is a full time job on it's own. But in
> the long term it won't hurt to be decently knowledgeable about all of
> the above.   Not to mention XML, CSS, HTML (knowledgeable but rusty
> on the part that relates to CSS), XSLT, and so on.  Whew.     That
> oughta keep me out of trouble!
>
>>
>> I want to take Linear Algebra next.
>
> Took that.  About 1981.   Haven't used it since.  Nor Calculus or
> trig.   Dang it.
>
> I should take a look at the Drake CS and CIS programs these days, and
> compare 'em to what the job market's looking for too.   Should be an
> interesting bit o' research. I got more use out of the CIS courses
> than I did the CS courses, frankly.   Hmmmm...I wonder if Drake still
> has a placement office for grads and if they'd still help out an
> older alum like me.   They placed me with Pioneer Hi-Bred back in
> ''84.  Pioneer called ME. Pretty nice.   They still court grads, I
> attended a job fair at the Pioneer campus in Johnston a few months  
> back.
>
>>
>> Thanks for joining!
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ciapug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:ciapug-bounces at cialug.org]
>> On Behalf
>> Of Bill Davis
>> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 4:38 PM
>> To: Central Iowa PHP Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Hello...and what time is Monday's meeting?
>>
>> Thanks  for the welcome and the info, Carl (and also John).
>>
>> Good to see someone from Drake!  I'm an alum (BA in Computer Science,
>> 1984) and so is my girlfriend (Masters, 2003) and she used to work
>> there too (Jolie Prentice).
>>
>> Hope to see everyone there tomorrow night.     Is it always the first
>> Monday now, or does it shift around like the web site seems to show?
>>
>> _______________________
>> Bill Davis
>> 5214 Meredith Drive
>> Des Moines, IA
>> 50310-2956 USA
>> bill.davis at gmail.com
>> +1 (515) 360-0445 cellular
>> +1 (515) 270-6729 home
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