[ciapug] Re: meetings

carl-olsen at mchsi.com carl-olsen at mchsi.com
Tue Aug 21 13:34:17 CDT 2007 

Monday is good for me.  I only have one meeting I regularly attend and it is on the first Wednesday of each month.  I did attend the Java meeting once and Sun was there demonstrating the new tools it just released for free to the public.  I went back to work and installed all of it and was up and running without knowing a thing about Java (it is so similar to C# and PHP that it's like I already knew 90% of it).  What I mean is just that one meeting was incredibly beneficial to me and having the ability to attend it was great.

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Barry Von Ahsen <barry at vonahsen.com>
>
> whatever night we chose, someone somewhere won't be able to come.  I 
> think initially, we picked the 1st Wed. because Carl was the only one 
> with a conflict, so he was the one to get inconvenienced
> 
> we want to get meetings started again after 2 years, let's not derail it 
> by squabbling about what night.  I think Tuesday is the first available 
> night, not necessarily the permanent night
> 
> so we have:
> not tuesday
> not wednesday
> 
> is 1st monday acceptable (other than holidays)?
> 
> -barry
> 
> 
> Matthew Nuzum wrote:
> > Does it have to be on the same day of the week every time? Some people
> > will have problems with any day chosen. By rotating through days, it
> > increases the chances that everyone will be able to attend at least
> > occasionally.
> > 
> > On 8/21/07, carl-olsen at mchsi.com <carl-olsen at mchsi.com> wrote:
> >> The first Wednesday doesn't work for me.  I thought we had talked about the 
> first Monday and this particular Monday is a holiday.  For those would prefer 
> not to have me disrupting the meetings, the first Wednesday would be a good 
> pick.
> >>
> >> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >> From: David Champion <dchampion at visionary.com>
> >>> Not like we have to schedule around me... but Tuesday's don't work well
> >>> for me - I have meetings twice a month on Tuesdays already. :)
> >>>
> >>> At one point we had talked about having them on the first Wednesday of
> >>> the month - this would be an every other Wednesday thing for those of us
> >>> who are in the Linux user group.
> >>>
> >>> -dc
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Tony Bibbs wrote:
> >>>> I have no idea as things seem to be morphing a bit.  Generally I think 
> Monday
> >>> was agreed on but because the Monday prior was a holiday it was moved to
> >>> Tuesday. Of course I don't help the group in any sort of official capacity 
> so
> >>> nothing I can say would be official.
> >>>> --Tony
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>>> From: Jason Shaw <jasonshaw at gmail.com>
> >>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:27:19 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Re: meetings
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm sad I'll miss this, is the meeting always going to be on Tuesday 
> nights?
> >>>> -Jason
> >>>>
> >>>> On 8/20/07, Carl Olsen <carl-olsen at mchsi.com> wrote:
> >>>>> I will see you there!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank Tony for both the hospitality and for the presentation!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Carl
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: ciapug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:ciapug-bounces at cialug.org] On 
> Behalf
> >>>>> Of Chris Hettinger
> >>>>> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 8:29 PM
> >>>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Re: meetings
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Further details for the September 4th Meeting:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The location is at 1555 SE Delaware Avenue, Suite G, Ankeny.  They are
> >>>>> in the suite at the northwest corner of the building.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 
> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1555+SE+Delaware+Avenue,+An
> >>>>> 
> keny,+Iowa&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=28.887524,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=41.716
> >>>>> 349,-93.581028&spn=0.006631,0.014591&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've indicated to Tony a start time of 7:00 PM
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tony has offered, as one discussion topic, to demonstrate the XSS
> >>>>> vulnerability and it's potential for being exploited.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -ch
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Chris Hettinger wrote:
> >>>>>> I do have a location lined up for to us to meet on Tuesday September 4th.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Tony Clifton has invited us to use the meeting room at Captain Jack's in
> >>>>>> Ankeny. A wireless access point will be available for use during the
> >>>>>> meeting. The meeting room does have a beverage and snack machine nearby.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have the full details at home and I will update the list this evening.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -chris
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mike Parks wrote:
> >>>>>>> Has a location been set???
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>> Today's Topics:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    1. Re: Meetings (carl-olsen at mchsi.com)
> >>>>>>>>    2. Re: Meetings (carl-olsen at mchsi.com)
> >>>>>>>>    3. Re: Meetings (Matthew Nuzum)
> >>>>>>>>    4. Re: Meetings (Tony Bibbs)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Message: 1
> >>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:55:35 +0000
> >>>>>>>> From: carl-olsen at mchsi.com
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
> >>>>>>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
> >>>>>>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>> 
> <081520071955.27345.46C35A36000F276400006AD1219791280203010CD2079C080C03BF02
> >>>>> 0A9C0401D3049D0E0C at mchsi.com>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> That works for me.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Carl
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >>>>>>>> From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> How about Tues 9/3?  I'd do the Monday prior but that's a holiday.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Any location ideas?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --Tony
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>>>>>>>> From: Chris Hettinger <cjh at raccoon.com>
> >>>>>>>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 2:34:41 PM
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I believe we all agree Carl. There are many here involved with the
> >>>>>>>>> other groups as well and it is in our interest not to conflict.
> >>>>>>>>> Obviously as that list of other groups grows we're seeing a
> >>>>>>>>> increased difficulty in avoiding conflicts. As we can all atest to
> >>>>>>>>> as well, we can't please everyone all the time.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -ch
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> carl-olsen at mchsi.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm wondering if everyone agrees with me that we should avoid
> >>>>>>>>>> nights that
> >>>>>>>>> other established groups are having regularly scheduled meetings,
> >>>>>>>>> such as .NET, Java, Linux, and Agile.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The cross over in these technologies is significant.  The last .NET
> >>>>>>>>>> demo I saw
> >>>>>>>>> included examples in PHP to show how the technologies merge,
> >>>>>>>>> overlap, or compliment each other.  I can watch a demo in .NET and
> >>>>>>>>> do the same thing with PHP.  It's the ideas and concepts that are
> >>>>>>>>> most important.  The languages are all very similar and they are all
> >>>>>>>>> doing OOP.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I've attended the Java User group and I've considered attending the
> >>>>>>>>>> others.
> >>>>>>>>> I'm a founding member of the .NET group which has been meeting on
> >>>>>>>>> the first Wednesday of the month for the past 3 or 4 years.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Carl
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >>>>>>>>>> From: scottatdrake.40505840 at bloglines.com
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, look at all the noise on this list all of a sudden.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Chalk me up
> >>>>>>>>>>> as a tentative yes with Mon and Wed being best. I can't commit to
> >>>>>>>>>>> hosting
> >>>>>>>>>>> or organizing right now. I'm starting a couple night classes and
> >>>>>>>>>>> am not sure
> >>>>>>>>>>> how much outside work there will be.
> >>>>>>>>>>> As an aside, I once considered exploring
> >>>>>>>>>>> the idea of expanding the target audience of this (or another)
> >>>>>>>>>>> group to
> >>>>>>>>> include
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> designers, usability/standards evangelist types, and so on ala
> >>>>>>>>>>> something like
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://refreshingcities.org/. I'm not sure how many people here
> >>>>>>>>>>> would be interested
> >>>>>>>>>>> in that, though. (Chris H?) Just throwing it out there.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> ~Scott Phillips
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Message: 2
> >>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:09:56 +0000
> >>>>>>>> From: carl-olsen at mchsi.com
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
> >>>>>>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
> >>>>>>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>> 
> <081520072009.12065.46C35D93000B616400002F21219791280203010CD2079C080C03BF02
> >>>>> 0A9C0401D3049D0E0C at mchsi.com>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The Iowa .NET User Group was meeting at Grandview College, but
> >>>>>>>> recently moved to the DMACC west campus.  They have a nice auditorium
> >>>>>>>> with overhead projection for laptops.  I think it seats around 200 or
> >>>>>>>> more.  DMACC said it was extremely interested in promoting the group
> >>>>>>>> because of the technology connection.  They want to start teaching
> >>>>>>>> more types of technology.  I know it is difficult to find PHP and
> >>>>>>>> MySQL training and I also know those two technologies are extremely
> >>>>>>>> popular.  It might be a good fit for the CIAPUG (and I wouldn't have
> >>>>>>>> to worry about scheduling conflicts).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I don't know if we want to start out with something that ambitious,
> >>>>>>>> so it's just a thought.  The Agile group was meeting at the Okaboji
> >>>>>>>> Grill (maybe they still are, I haven't been to a meeting yet).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Carl
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >>>>>>>> From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> How about Tues 9/3?  I'd do the Monday prior but that's a holiday.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Any location ideas?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --Tony
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>>>>>>>> From: Chris Hettinger <cjh at raccoon.com>
> >>>>>>>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 2:34:41 PM
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I believe we all agree Carl. There are many here involved with the
> >>>>>>>>> other groups as well and it is in our interest not to conflict.
> >>>>>>>>> Obviously as that list of other groups grows we're seeing a
> >>>>>>>>> increased difficulty in avoiding conflicts. As we can all atest to
> >>>>>>>>> as well, we can't please everyone all the time.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -ch
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> carl-olsen at mchsi.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm wondering if everyone agrees with me that we should avoid
> >>>>>>>>>> nights that
> >>>>>>>>> other established groups are having regularly scheduled meetings,
> >>>>>>>>> such as .NET, Java, Linux, and Agile.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The cross over in these technologies is significant.  The last .NET
> >>>>>>>>>> demo I saw
> >>>>>>>>> included examples in PHP to show how the technologies merge,
> >>>>>>>>> overlap, or compliment each other.  I can watch a demo in .NET and
> >>>>>>>>> do the same thing with PHP.  It's the ideas and concepts that are
> >>>>>>>>> most important.  The languages are all very similar and they are all
> >>>>>>>>> doing OOP.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I've attended the Java User group and I've considered attending the
> >>>>>>>>>> others.
> >>>>>>>>> I'm a founding member of the .NET group which has been meeting on
> >>>>>>>>> the first Wednesday of the month for the past 3 or 4 years.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Carl
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >>>>>>>>>> From: scottatdrake.40505840 at bloglines.com
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, look at all the noise on this list all of a sudden.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Chalk me up
> >>>>>>>>>>> as a tentative yes with Mon and Wed being best. I can't commit to
> >>>>>>>>>>> hosting
> >>>>>>>>>>> or organizing right now. I'm starting a couple night classes and
> >>>>>>>>>>> am not sure
> >>>>>>>>>>> how much outside work there will be.
> >>>>>>>>>>> As an aside, I once considered exploring
> >>>>>>>>>>> the idea of expanding the target audience of this (or another)
> >>>>>>>>>>> group to
> >>>>>>>>> include
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> designers, usability/standards evangelist types, and so on ala
> >>>>>>>>>>> something like
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://refreshingcities.org/. I'm not sure how many people here
> >>>>>>>>>>> would be interested
> >>>>>>>>>>> in that, though. (Chris H?) Just throwing it out there.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> ~Scott Phillips
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>> ciapug mailing list
> >>>>>>>>>> ciapug at cialug.org
> >>>>>>>>>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/ciapug
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Message: 3
> >>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:11:20 -0500
> >>>>>>>> From: "Matthew Nuzum" <newz at bearfruit.org>
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
> >>>>>>>> To: dave at 58ghz.net, ciapug at cialug.org
> >>>>>>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>>>>>     <f3c0b4080708151311v416660b1vcf88abb1e70a32d5 at mail.gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 8/15/07, Dave J. Hala Jr. <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Am I the only PHP person that still writes procedural code? Its not
> >>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>> I'm against it or can't, there's just not a reason to make a change at
> >>>>>>>>> this point.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Depends.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If I'm using PHP as a templating language, then my code is procedural.
> >>>>>>>> However, on bigger project where long-term maintainability is
> >>>>>>>> necessary, then I end up writing some classes for logic and
> >>>>>>>> processing. These get automatically prepended and then procedural code
> >>>>>>>> or smarty is used to display the data.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
> >>>>>>> Mike Parks
> >>>>>>> Captain Jack Communications
> >>>>>>> WebSite Development and Hosting
> >>>>>>> www.captainjack.com
> >>>>>>> Phone: 515-964-8500
> >>>>>>> Fax: 515-964-4685
> >>>
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