[ciapug] Re: meetings

Matthew Nuzum newz at bearfruit.org
Tue Aug 21 12:49:27 CDT 2007 

Does it have to be on the same day of the week every time? Some people
will have problems with any day chosen. By rotating through days, it
increases the chances that everyone will be able to attend at least
occasionally.

On 8/21/07, carl-olsen at mchsi.com <carl-olsen at mchsi.com> wrote:
> The first Wednesday doesn't work for me.  I thought we had talked about the first Monday and this particular Monday is a holiday.  For those would prefer not to have me disrupting the meetings, the first Wednesday would be a good pick.
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: David Champion <dchampion at visionary.com>
> >
> > Not like we have to schedule around me... but Tuesday's don't work well
> > for me - I have meetings twice a month on Tuesdays already. :)
> >
> > At one point we had talked about having them on the first Wednesday of
> > the month - this would be an every other Wednesday thing for those of us
> > who are in the Linux user group.
> >
> > -dc
> >
> >
> > Tony Bibbs wrote:
> > > I have no idea as things seem to be morphing a bit.  Generally I think Monday
> > was agreed on but because the Monday prior was a holiday it was moved to
> > Tuesday. Of course I don't help the group in any sort of official capacity so
> > nothing I can say would be official.
> > >
> > > --Tony
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Jason Shaw <jasonshaw at gmail.com>
> > > To: ciapug at cialug.org
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:27:19 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [ciapug] Re: meetings
> > >
> > > I'm sad I'll miss this, is the meeting always going to be on Tuesday nights?
> > > -Jason
> > >
> > > On 8/20/07, Carl Olsen <carl-olsen at mchsi.com> wrote:
> > >> I will see you there!
> > >>
> > >> Thank Tony for both the hospitality and for the presentation!
> > >>
> > >> Carl
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: ciapug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:ciapug-bounces at cialug.org] On Behalf
> > >> Of Chris Hettinger
> > >> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 8:29 PM
> > >> To: ciapug at cialug.org
> > >> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Re: meetings
> > >>
> > >> Further details for the September 4th Meeting:
> > >>
> > >> The location is at 1555 SE Delaware Avenue, Suite G, Ankeny.  They are
> > >> in the suite at the northwest corner of the building.
> > >>
> > >> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1555+SE+Delaware+Avenue,+An
> > >> keny,+Iowa&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=28.887524,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=41.716
> > >> 349,-93.581028&spn=0.006631,0.014591&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I've indicated to Tony a start time of 7:00 PM
> > >>
> > >> Tony has offered, as one discussion topic, to demonstrate the XSS
> > >> vulnerability and it's potential for being exploited.
> > >>
> > >> -ch
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Chris Hettinger wrote:
> > >>> I do have a location lined up for to us to meet on Tuesday September 4th.
> > >>>
> > >>> Tony Clifton has invited us to use the meeting room at Captain Jack's in
> > >>> Ankeny. A wireless access point will be available for use during the
> > >>> meeting. The meeting room does have a beverage and snack machine nearby.
> > >>>
> > >>> I have the full details at home and I will update the list this evening.
> > >>>
> > >>> -chris
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Mike Parks wrote:
> > >>>> Has a location been set???
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
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> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>    1. Re: Meetings (carl-olsen at mchsi.com)
> > >>>>>    2. Re: Meetings (carl-olsen at mchsi.com)
> > >>>>>    3. Re: Meetings (Matthew Nuzum)
> > >>>>>    4. Re: Meetings (Tony Bibbs)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Message: 1
> > >>>>> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:55:35 +0000
> > >>>>> From: carl-olsen at mchsi.com
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
> > >>>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
> > >>>>> Message-ID:
> > >>>>>
> > >> <081520071955.27345.46C35A36000F276400006AD1219791280203010CD2079C080C03BF02
> > >> 0A9C0401D3049D0E0C at mchsi.com>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> That works for me.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Carl
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > >>>>> From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> How about Tues 9/3?  I'd do the Monday prior but that's a holiday.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Any location ideas?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> --Tony
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
> > >>>>>> From: Chris Hettinger <cjh at raccoon.com>
> > >>>>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
> > >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 2:34:41 PM
> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I believe we all agree Carl. There are many here involved with the
> > >>>>>> other groups as well and it is in our interest not to conflict.
> > >>>>>> Obviously as that list of other groups grows we're seeing a
> > >>>>>> increased difficulty in avoiding conflicts. As we can all atest to
> > >>>>>> as well, we can't please everyone all the time.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> -ch
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> carl-olsen at mchsi.com wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I'm wondering if everyone agrees with me that we should avoid
> > >>>>>>> nights that
> > >>>>>> other established groups are having regularly scheduled meetings,
> > >>>>>> such as .NET, Java, Linux, and Agile.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> The cross over in these technologies is significant.  The last .NET
> > >>>>>>> demo I saw
> > >>>>>> included examples in PHP to show how the technologies merge,
> > >>>>>> overlap, or compliment each other.  I can watch a demo in .NET and
> > >>>>>> do the same thing with PHP.  It's the ideas and concepts that are
> > >>>>>> most important.  The languages are all very similar and they are all
> > >>>>>> doing OOP.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I've attended the Java User group and I've considered attending the
> > >>>>>>> others.
> > >>>>>> I'm a founding member of the .NET group which has been meeting on
> > >>>>>> the first Wednesday of the month for the past 3 or 4 years.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Carl
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > >>>>>>> From: scottatdrake.40505840 at bloglines.com
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Well, look at all the noise on this list all of a sudden.
> > >>>>>>>> Chalk me up
> > >>>>>>>> as a tentative yes with Mon and Wed being best. I can't commit to
> > >>>>>>>> hosting
> > >>>>>>>> or organizing right now. I'm starting a couple night classes and
> > >>>>>>>> am not sure
> > >>>>>>>> how much outside work there will be.
> > >>>>>>>> As an aside, I once considered exploring
> > >>>>>>>> the idea of expanding the target audience of this (or another)
> > >>>>>>>> group to
> > >>>>>> include
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> designers, usability/standards evangelist types, and so on ala
> > >>>>>>>> something like
> > >>>>>>>> http://refreshingcities.org/. I'm not sure how many people here
> > >>>>>>>> would be interested
> > >>>>>>>> in that, though. (Chris H?) Just throwing it out there.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> ~Scott Phillips
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>>>> ciapug mailing list
> > >>>>>>> ciapug at cialug.org
> > >>>>>>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/ciapug
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>>> ciapug mailing list
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> > >>>>>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/ciapug
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
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> > >>>>>> ciapug mailing list
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> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ------------------------------
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Message: 2
> > >>>>> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:09:56 +0000
> > >>>>> From: carl-olsen at mchsi.com
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
> > >>>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
> > >>>>> Message-ID:
> > >>>>>
> > >> <081520072009.12065.46C35D93000B616400002F21219791280203010CD2079C080C03BF02
> > >> 0A9C0401D3049D0E0C at mchsi.com>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The Iowa .NET User Group was meeting at Grandview College, but
> > >>>>> recently moved to the DMACC west campus.  They have a nice auditorium
> > >>>>> with overhead projection for laptops.  I think it seats around 200 or
> > >>>>> more.  DMACC said it was extremely interested in promoting the group
> > >>>>> because of the technology connection.  They want to start teaching
> > >>>>> more types of technology.  I know it is difficult to find PHP and
> > >>>>> MySQL training and I also know those two technologies are extremely
> > >>>>> popular.  It might be a good fit for the CIAPUG (and I wouldn't have
> > >>>>> to worry about scheduling conflicts).
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I don't know if we want to start out with something that ambitious,
> > >>>>> so it's just a thought.  The Agile group was meeting at the Okaboji
> > >>>>> Grill (maybe they still are, I haven't been to a meeting yet).
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Carl
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > >>>>> From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> How about Tues 9/3?  I'd do the Monday prior but that's a holiday.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Any location ideas?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> --Tony
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
> > >>>>>> From: Chris Hettinger <cjh at raccoon.com>
> > >>>>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
> > >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 2:34:41 PM
> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I believe we all agree Carl. There are many here involved with the
> > >>>>>> other groups as well and it is in our interest not to conflict.
> > >>>>>> Obviously as that list of other groups grows we're seeing a
> > >>>>>> increased difficulty in avoiding conflicts. As we can all atest to
> > >>>>>> as well, we can't please everyone all the time.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> -ch
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> carl-olsen at mchsi.com wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I'm wondering if everyone agrees with me that we should avoid
> > >>>>>>> nights that
> > >>>>>> other established groups are having regularly scheduled meetings,
> > >>>>>> such as .NET, Java, Linux, and Agile.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> The cross over in these technologies is significant.  The last .NET
> > >>>>>>> demo I saw
> > >>>>>> included examples in PHP to show how the technologies merge,
> > >>>>>> overlap, or compliment each other.  I can watch a demo in .NET and
> > >>>>>> do the same thing with PHP.  It's the ideas and concepts that are
> > >>>>>> most important.  The languages are all very similar and they are all
> > >>>>>> doing OOP.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I've attended the Java User group and I've considered attending the
> > >>>>>>> others.
> > >>>>>> I'm a founding member of the .NET group which has been meeting on
> > >>>>>> the first Wednesday of the month for the past 3 or 4 years.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Carl
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > >>>>>>> From: scottatdrake.40505840 at bloglines.com
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Well, look at all the noise on this list all of a sudden.
> > >>>>>>>> Chalk me up
> > >>>>>>>> as a tentative yes with Mon and Wed being best. I can't commit to
> > >>>>>>>> hosting
> > >>>>>>>> or organizing right now. I'm starting a couple night classes and
> > >>>>>>>> am not sure
> > >>>>>>>> how much outside work there will be.
> > >>>>>>>> As an aside, I once considered exploring
> > >>>>>>>> the idea of expanding the target audience of this (or another)
> > >>>>>>>> group to
> > >>>>>> include
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> designers, usability/standards evangelist types, and so on ala
> > >>>>>>>> something like
> > >>>>>>>> http://refreshingcities.org/. I'm not sure how many people here
> > >>>>>>>> would be interested
> > >>>>>>>> in that, though. (Chris H?) Just throwing it out there.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> ~Scott Phillips
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>>>> ciapug mailing list
> > >>>>>>> ciapug at cialug.org
> > >>>>>>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/ciapug
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
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> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ------------------------------
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Message: 3
> > >>>>> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:11:20 -0500
> > >>>>> From: "Matthew Nuzum" <newz at bearfruit.org>
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
> > >>>>> To: dave at 58ghz.net, ciapug at cialug.org
> > >>>>> Message-ID:
> > >>>>>     <f3c0b4080708151311v416660b1vcf88abb1e70a32d5 at mail.gmail.com>
> > >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 8/15/07, Dave J. Hala Jr. <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Am I the only PHP person that still writes procedural code? Its not
> > >>>>>> that
> > >>>>>> I'm against it or can't, there's just not a reason to make a change at
> > >>>>>> this point.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> Depends.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> If I'm using PHP as a templating language, then my code is procedural.
> > >>>>> However, on bigger project where long-term maintainability is
> > >>>>> necessary, then I end up writing some classes for logic and
> > >>>>> processing. These get automatically prepended and then procedural code
> > >>>>> or smarty is used to display the data.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
> > >>>> Mike Parks
> > >>>> Captain Jack Communications
> > >>>> WebSite Development and Hosting
> > >>>> www.captainjack.com
> > >>>> Phone: 515-964-8500
> > >>>> Fax: 515-964-4685
> >
> >
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