[ciapug] Re: meetings

carl-olsen at mchsi.com carl-olsen at mchsi.com
Tue Aug 21 12:31:51 CDT 2007 

The first Wednesday doesn't work for me.  I thought we had talked about the first Monday and this particular Monday is a holiday.  For those would prefer not to have me disrupting the meetings, the first Wednesday would be a good pick.

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: David Champion <dchampion at visionary.com>
>
> Not like we have to schedule around me... but Tuesday's don't work well
> for me - I have meetings twice a month on Tuesdays already. :)
> 
> At one point we had talked about having them on the first Wednesday of
> the month - this would be an every other Wednesday thing for those of us
> who are in the Linux user group.
> 
> -dc
> 
> 
> Tony Bibbs wrote:
> > I have no idea as things seem to be morphing a bit.  Generally I think Monday 
> was agreed on but because the Monday prior was a holiday it was moved to 
> Tuesday. Of course I don't help the group in any sort of official capacity so 
> nothing I can say would be official.
> > 
> > --Tony
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Jason Shaw <jasonshaw at gmail.com>
> > To: ciapug at cialug.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:27:19 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ciapug] Re: meetings
> > 
> > I'm sad I'll miss this, is the meeting always going to be on Tuesday nights?
> > -Jason
> > 
> > On 8/20/07, Carl Olsen <carl-olsen at mchsi.com> wrote:
> >> I will see you there!
> >>
> >> Thank Tony for both the hospitality and for the presentation!
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ciapug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:ciapug-bounces at cialug.org] On Behalf
> >> Of Chris Hettinger
> >> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 8:29 PM
> >> To: ciapug at cialug.org
> >> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Re: meetings
> >>
> >> Further details for the September 4th Meeting:
> >>
> >> The location is at 1555 SE Delaware Avenue, Suite G, Ankeny.  They are
> >> in the suite at the northwest corner of the building.
> >>
> >> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1555+SE+Delaware+Avenue,+An
> >> keny,+Iowa&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=28.887524,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=41.716
> >> 349,-93.581028&spn=0.006631,0.014591&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I've indicated to Tony a start time of 7:00 PM
> >>
> >> Tony has offered, as one discussion topic, to demonstrate the XSS
> >> vulnerability and it's potential for being exploited.
> >>
> >> -ch
> >>
> >>
> >> Chris Hettinger wrote:
> >>> I do have a location lined up for to us to meet on Tuesday September 4th.
> >>>
> >>> Tony Clifton has invited us to use the meeting room at Captain Jack's in
> >>> Ankeny. A wireless access point will be available for use during the
> >>> meeting. The meeting room does have a beverage and snack machine nearby.
> >>>
> >>> I have the full details at home and I will update the list this evening.
> >>>
> >>> -chris
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mike Parks wrote:
> >>>> Has a location been set???
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>    1. Re: Meetings (carl-olsen at mchsi.com)
> >>>>>    2. Re: Meetings (carl-olsen at mchsi.com)
> >>>>>    3. Re: Meetings (Matthew Nuzum)
> >>>>>    4. Re: Meetings (Tony Bibbs)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Message: 1
> >>>>> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:55:35 +0000
> >>>>> From: carl-olsen at mchsi.com
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
> >>>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
> >>>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>>
> >> <081520071955.27345.46C35A36000F276400006AD1219791280203010CD2079C080C03BF02
> >> 0A9C0401D3049D0E0C at mchsi.com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That works for me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Carl
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >>>>> From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> How about Tues 9/3?  I'd do the Monday prior but that's a holiday.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Any location ideas?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --Tony
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>>>>> From: Chris Hettinger <cjh at raccoon.com>
> >>>>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 2:34:41 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I believe we all agree Carl. There are many here involved with the
> >>>>>> other groups as well and it is in our interest not to conflict.
> >>>>>> Obviously as that list of other groups grows we're seeing a
> >>>>>> increased difficulty in avoiding conflicts. As we can all atest to
> >>>>>> as well, we can't please everyone all the time.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -ch
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> carl-olsen at mchsi.com wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm wondering if everyone agrees with me that we should avoid
> >>>>>>> nights that
> >>>>>> other established groups are having regularly scheduled meetings,
> >>>>>> such as .NET, Java, Linux, and Agile.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The cross over in these technologies is significant.  The last .NET
> >>>>>>> demo I saw
> >>>>>> included examples in PHP to show how the technologies merge,
> >>>>>> overlap, or compliment each other.  I can watch a demo in .NET and
> >>>>>> do the same thing with PHP.  It's the ideas and concepts that are
> >>>>>> most important.  The languages are all very similar and they are all
> >>>>>> doing OOP.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I've attended the Java User group and I've considered attending the
> >>>>>>> others.
> >>>>>> I'm a founding member of the .NET group which has been meeting on
> >>>>>> the first Wednesday of the month for the past 3 or 4 years.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Carl
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >>>>>>> From: scottatdrake.40505840 at bloglines.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Well, look at all the noise on this list all of a sudden.
> >>>>>>>> Chalk me up
> >>>>>>>> as a tentative yes with Mon and Wed being best. I can't commit to
> >>>>>>>> hosting
> >>>>>>>> or organizing right now. I'm starting a couple night classes and
> >>>>>>>> am not sure
> >>>>>>>> how much outside work there will be.
> >>>>>>>> As an aside, I once considered exploring
> >>>>>>>> the idea of expanding the target audience of this (or another)
> >>>>>>>> group to
> >>>>>> include
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> designers, usability/standards evangelist types, and so on ala
> >>>>>>>> something like
> >>>>>>>> http://refreshingcities.org/. I'm not sure how many people here
> >>>>>>>> would be interested
> >>>>>>>> in that, though. (Chris H?) Just throwing it out there.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ~Scott Phillips
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>> ciapug mailing list
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> >>>>>>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/ciapug
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>> ciapug mailing list
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> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Message: 2
> >>>>> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:09:56 +0000
> >>>>> From: carl-olsen at mchsi.com
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
> >>>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
> >>>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>>
> >> <081520072009.12065.46C35D93000B616400002F21219791280203010CD2079C080C03BF02
> >> 0A9C0401D3049D0E0C at mchsi.com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Iowa .NET User Group was meeting at Grandview College, but
> >>>>> recently moved to the DMACC west campus.  They have a nice auditorium
> >>>>> with overhead projection for laptops.  I think it seats around 200 or
> >>>>> more.  DMACC said it was extremely interested in promoting the group
> >>>>> because of the technology connection.  They want to start teaching
> >>>>> more types of technology.  I know it is difficult to find PHP and
> >>>>> MySQL training and I also know those two technologies are extremely
> >>>>> popular.  It might be a good fit for the CIAPUG (and I wouldn't have
> >>>>> to worry about scheduling conflicts).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I don't know if we want to start out with something that ambitious,
> >>>>> so it's just a thought.  The Agile group was meeting at the Okaboji
> >>>>> Grill (maybe they still are, I haven't been to a meeting yet).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Carl
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >>>>> From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> How about Tues 9/3?  I'd do the Monday prior but that's a holiday.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Any location ideas?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --Tony
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>>>>> From: Chris Hettinger <cjh at raccoon.com>
> >>>>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 2:34:41 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I believe we all agree Carl. There are many here involved with the
> >>>>>> other groups as well and it is in our interest not to conflict.
> >>>>>> Obviously as that list of other groups grows we're seeing a
> >>>>>> increased difficulty in avoiding conflicts. As we can all atest to
> >>>>>> as well, we can't please everyone all the time.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -ch
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> carl-olsen at mchsi.com wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm wondering if everyone agrees with me that we should avoid
> >>>>>>> nights that
> >>>>>> other established groups are having regularly scheduled meetings,
> >>>>>> such as .NET, Java, Linux, and Agile.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The cross over in these technologies is significant.  The last .NET
> >>>>>>> demo I saw
> >>>>>> included examples in PHP to show how the technologies merge,
> >>>>>> overlap, or compliment each other.  I can watch a demo in .NET and
> >>>>>> do the same thing with PHP.  It's the ideas and concepts that are
> >>>>>> most important.  The languages are all very similar and they are all
> >>>>>> doing OOP.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I've attended the Java User group and I've considered attending the
> >>>>>>> others.
> >>>>>> I'm a founding member of the .NET group which has been meeting on
> >>>>>> the first Wednesday of the month for the past 3 or 4 years.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Carl
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >>>>>>> From: scottatdrake.40505840 at bloglines.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Well, look at all the noise on this list all of a sudden.
> >>>>>>>> Chalk me up
> >>>>>>>> as a tentative yes with Mon and Wed being best. I can't commit to
> >>>>>>>> hosting
> >>>>>>>> or organizing right now. I'm starting a couple night classes and
> >>>>>>>> am not sure
> >>>>>>>> how much outside work there will be.
> >>>>>>>> As an aside, I once considered exploring
> >>>>>>>> the idea of expanding the target audience of this (or another)
> >>>>>>>> group to
> >>>>>> include
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> designers, usability/standards evangelist types, and so on ala
> >>>>>>>> something like
> >>>>>>>> http://refreshingcities.org/. I'm not sure how many people here
> >>>>>>>> would be interested
> >>>>>>>> in that, though. (Chris H?) Just throwing it out there.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ~Scott Phillips
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>> ciapug mailing list
> >>>>>>> ciapug at cialug.org
> >>>>>>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/ciapug
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>> ciapug mailing list
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Message: 3
> >>>>> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:11:20 -0500
> >>>>> From: "Matthew Nuzum" <newz at bearfruit.org>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
> >>>>> To: dave at 58ghz.net, ciapug at cialug.org
> >>>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>>     <f3c0b4080708151311v416660b1vcf88abb1e70a32d5 at mail.gmail.com>
> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 8/15/07, Dave J. Hala Jr. <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Am I the only PHP person that still writes procedural code? Its not
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>> I'm against it or can't, there's just not a reason to make a change at
> >>>>>> this point.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Depends.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If I'm using PHP as a templating language, then my code is procedural.
> >>>>> However, on bigger project where long-term maintainability is
> >>>>> necessary, then I end up writing some classes for logic and
> >>>>> processing. These get automatically prepended and then procedural code
> >>>>> or smarty is used to display the data.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
> >>>> Mike Parks
> >>>> Captain Jack Communications
> >>>> WebSite Development and Hosting
> >>>> www.captainjack.com
> >>>> Phone: 515-964-8500
> >>>> Fax: 515-964-4685
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