[ciapug] Re: meetings

Tue Aug 21 12:05:11 CDT 2007

I have no idea as things seem to be morphing a bit.  Generally I think Monday was agreed on but because the Monday prior was a holiday it was moved to Tuesday. Of course I don't help the group in any sort of official capacity so nothing I can say would be official.

--Tony

----- Original Message ----
From: Jason Shaw <jasonshaw at gmail.com>
To: ciapug at cialug.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:27:19 AM
Subject: Re: [ciapug] Re: meetings

I'm sad I'll miss this, is the meeting always going to be on Tuesday nights?
-Jason

On 8/20/07, Carl Olsen <carl-olsen at mchsi.com> wrote:
> I will see you there!
>
> Thank Tony for both the hospitality and for the presentation!
>
> Carl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ciapug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:ciapug-bounces at cialug.org] On Behalf
> Of Chris Hettinger
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 8:29 PM
> To: ciapug at cialug.org
> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Re: meetings
>
> Further details for the September 4th Meeting:
>
> The location is at 1555 SE Delaware Avenue, Suite G, Ankeny.  They are
> in the suite at the northwest corner of the building.
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1555+SE+Delaware+Avenue,+An
> keny,+Iowa&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=28.887524,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=41.716
> 349,-93.581028&spn=0.006631,0.014591&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1
>
>
>
> I've indicated to Tony a start time of 7:00 PM
>
> Tony has offered, as one discussion topic, to demonstrate the XSS
> vulnerability and it's potential for being exploited.
>
> -ch
>
>
> Chris Hettinger wrote:
> > I do have a location lined up for to us to meet on Tuesday September 4th.
> >
> > Tony Clifton has invited us to use the meeting room at Captain Jack's in
> > Ankeny. A wireless access point will be available for use during the
> > meeting. The meeting room does have a beverage and snack machine nearby.
> >
> > I have the full details at home and I will update the list this evening.
> >
> > -chris
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Parks wrote:
> >> Has a location been set???
> >>
> >>
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> >>>    1. Re: Meetings (carl-olsen at mchsi.com)
> >>>    2. Re: Meetings (carl-olsen at mchsi.com)
> >>>    3. Re: Meetings (Matthew Nuzum)
> >>>    4. Re: Meetings (Tony Bibbs)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 1
> >>> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:55:35 +0000
> >>> From: carl-olsen at mchsi.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
> >>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>>
> <081520071955.27345.46C35A36000F276400006AD1219791280203010CD2079C080C03BF02
> 0A9C0401D3049D0E0C at mchsi.com>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> That works for me.
> >>>
> >>> Carl
> >>>
> >>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >>> From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>
> >>>
> >>>> How about Tues 9/3?  I'd do the Monday prior but that's a holiday.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any location ideas?
> >>>>
> >>>> --Tony
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>>> From: Chris Hettinger <cjh at raccoon.com>
> >>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 2:34:41 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
> >>>>
> >>>> I believe we all agree Carl. There are many here involved with the
> >>>> other groups as well and it is in our interest not to conflict.
> >>>> Obviously as that list of other groups grows we're seeing a
> >>>> increased difficulty in avoiding conflicts. As we can all atest to
> >>>> as well, we can't please everyone all the time.
> >>>>
> >>>> -ch
> >>>>
> >>>> carl-olsen at mchsi.com wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'm wondering if everyone agrees with me that we should avoid
> >>>>> nights that
> >>>> other established groups are having regularly scheduled meetings,
> >>>> such as .NET, Java, Linux, and Agile.
> >>>>
> >>>>> The cross over in these technologies is significant.  The last .NET
> >>>>> demo I saw
> >>>> included examples in PHP to show how the technologies merge,
> >>>> overlap, or compliment each other.  I can watch a demo in .NET and
> >>>> do the same thing with PHP.  It's the ideas and concepts that are
> >>>> most important.  The languages are all very similar and they are all
> >>>> doing OOP.
> >>>>
> >>>>> I've attended the Java User group and I've considered attending the
> >>>>> others.
> >>>> I'm a founding member of the .NET group which has been meeting on
> >>>> the first Wednesday of the month for the past 3 or 4 years.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Carl
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >>>>> From: scottatdrake.40505840 at bloglines.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Well, look at all the noise on this list all of a sudden.
> >>>>>> Chalk me up
> >>>>>> as a tentative yes with Mon and Wed being best. I can't commit to
> >>>>>> hosting
> >>>>>> or organizing right now. I'm starting a couple night classes and
> >>>>>> am not sure
> >>>>>> how much outside work there will be.
> >>>>>> As an aside, I once considered exploring
> >>>>>> the idea of expanding the target audience of this (or another)
> >>>>>> group to
> >>>> include
> >>>>
> >>>>>> designers, usability/standards evangelist types, and so on ala
> >>>>>> something like
> >>>>>> http://refreshingcities.org/. I'm not sure how many people here
> >>>>>> would be interested
> >>>>>> in that, though. (Chris H?) Just throwing it out there.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ~Scott Phillips
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 2
> >>> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:09:56 +0000
> >>> From: carl-olsen at mchsi.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
> >>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>>
> <081520072009.12065.46C35D93000B616400002F21219791280203010CD2079C080C03BF02
> 0A9C0401D3049D0E0C at mchsi.com>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The Iowa .NET User Group was meeting at Grandview College, but
> >>> recently moved to the DMACC west campus.  They have a nice auditorium
> >>> with overhead projection for laptops.  I think it seats around 200 or
> >>> more.  DMACC said it was extremely interested in promoting the group
> >>> because of the technology connection.  They want to start teaching
> >>> more types of technology.  I know it is difficult to find PHP and
> >>> MySQL training and I also know those two technologies are extremely
> >>> popular.  It might be a good fit for the CIAPUG (and I wouldn't have
> >>> to worry about scheduling conflicts).
> >>>
> >>> I don't know if we want to start out with something that ambitious,
> >>> so it's just a thought.  The Agile group was meeting at the Okaboji
> >>> Grill (maybe they still are, I haven't been to a meeting yet).
> >>>
> >>> Carl
> >>>
> >>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >>> From: Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com>
> >>>
> >>>> How about Tues 9/3?  I'd do the Monday prior but that's a holiday.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any location ideas?
> >>>>
> >>>> --Tony
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>>> From: Chris Hettinger <cjh at raccoon.com>
> >>>> To: ciapug at cialug.org
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 2:34:41 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
> >>>>
> >>>> I believe we all agree Carl. There are many here involved with the
> >>>> other groups as well and it is in our interest not to conflict.
> >>>> Obviously as that list of other groups grows we're seeing a
> >>>> increased difficulty in avoiding conflicts. As we can all atest to
> >>>> as well, we can't please everyone all the time.
> >>>>
> >>>> -ch
> >>>>
> >>>> carl-olsen at mchsi.com wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'm wondering if everyone agrees with me that we should avoid
> >>>>> nights that
> >>>> other established groups are having regularly scheduled meetings,
> >>>> such as .NET, Java, Linux, and Agile.
> >>>>
> >>>>> The cross over in these technologies is significant.  The last .NET
> >>>>> demo I saw
> >>>> included examples in PHP to show how the technologies merge,
> >>>> overlap, or compliment each other.  I can watch a demo in .NET and
> >>>> do the same thing with PHP.  It's the ideas and concepts that are
> >>>> most important.  The languages are all very similar and they are all
> >>>> doing OOP.
> >>>>
> >>>>> I've attended the Java User group and I've considered attending the
> >>>>> others.
> >>>> I'm a founding member of the .NET group which has been meeting on
> >>>> the first Wednesday of the month for the past 3 or 4 years.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Carl
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >>>>> From: scottatdrake.40505840 at bloglines.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Well, look at all the noise on this list all of a sudden.
> >>>>>> Chalk me up
> >>>>>> as a tentative yes with Mon and Wed being best. I can't commit to
> >>>>>> hosting
> >>>>>> or organizing right now. I'm starting a couple night classes and
> >>>>>> am not sure
> >>>>>> how much outside work there will be.
> >>>>>> As an aside, I once considered exploring
> >>>>>> the idea of expanding the target audience of this (or another)
> >>>>>> group to
> >>>> include
> >>>>
> >>>>>> designers, usability/standards evangelist types, and so on ala
> >>>>>> something like
> >>>>>> http://refreshingcities.org/. I'm not sure how many people here
> >>>>>> would be interested
> >>>>>> in that, though. (Chris H?) Just throwing it out there.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ~Scott Phillips
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> ciapug mailing list
> >>>>> ciapug at cialug.org
> >>>>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/ciapug
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 3
> >>> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:11:20 -0500
> >>> From: "Matthew Nuzum" <newz at bearfruit.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [ciapug] Meetings
> >>> To: dave at 58ghz.net, ciapug at cialug.org
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>>     <f3c0b4080708151311v416660b1vcf88abb1e70a32d5 at mail.gmail.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >>>
> >>> On 8/15/07, Dave J. Hala Jr. <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Am I the only PHP person that still writes procedural code? Its not
> >>>> that
> >>>> I'm against it or can't, there's just not a reason to make a change at
> >>>> this point.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Depends.
> >>>
> >>> If I'm using PHP as a templating language, then my code is procedural.
> >>> However, on bigger project where long-term maintainability is
> >>> necessary, then I end up writing some classes for logic and
> >>> processing. These get automatically prepended and then procedural code
> >>> or smarty is used to display the data.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
> >> Mike Parks
> >> Captain Jack Communications
> >> WebSite Development and Hosting
> >> www.captainjack.com
> >> Phone: 515-964-8500
> >> Fax: 515-964-4685
> >>
> >>
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