Of course vim will win.  They didn't make it a fair fight.  The emacs book is more expensive.  Only those true die-hard emacs fans will pay the premium price.<br><br>Emacs gets a bad rap for loading slowly.  Sure, if you're trying to launch the space shuttle from it, it does take a long time.  But at least you don't have to waste time getting in and out of command mode just to edit a text file.<br>
<br>There are times for both.  I usually use emacs, but there are times where I use vi/vim.  My emacs does load a lot of stuff, so that I can do a lot more.  So in cases where I need a quick edit, I'll use vi.  But I prefer emacs for long edit sessions.  I can do WAY more (and faster) in my emacs setup than I can do in my vi setup.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Josh More <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jmore@starmind.org">jmore@starmind.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Vim will win.  It'll be able to shoot Emacs before Emacs has finished loading.<br><br>Then, in it's dying breaths, Emacs will attempt to shoot back, make a typo and accidentally author a network scanner.<br><br>-Josh<br>

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