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<tt>On smaller systems, like when you ssh into a small network
appliance, vi is always there. If you have to know one, vi is the
one to know.<br>
<br>
Also, just found and started using Snipmate for vim.<br>
<a
href="http://vimeo.com/3535418?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+xlight_allfeed+%28xLight%E7%9A%84%E5%A4%A7%E6%9D%82%E7%83%A9%29">Video</a>
1m 40s. It's pretty cool.<br>
<br>
To Install:<br>
<br>
1) Make a home for VAM:<br>
$ mkidr -p .vim/vim-addons; cd </tt><tt>.vim/vim-addons</tt><br>
<tt><br>
<br>
2) Download <a
href="https://github.com/MarcWeber/vim-addon-manager">VAM</a>
(Vim Addon Manager)<br>
$ git clone git://github.com/MarcWeber/vim-addon-manager.git<br>
<br>
<br>
3) Create .vimrc if you don't have one. <br>
I just copied the fedora vimrc template to my home directory and
made a few modifications.<br>
<br>
<br>
4) Configure VAM to pull down <a
href="https://github.com/MarcWeber/snipmate.vim">snipmate</a>
and all dependencies. <br>
After reading the instructions, it basically boils down to adding
this to the bottom of .vimrc:<br>
</tt><tt>===<br>
" Enable VAM: vim-addon-manager<br>
set runtimepath+=~/.vim/vim-addons/vim-addon-manager<br>
<br>
fun SetupVAM()<br>
let vam_install_path = expand('$HOME') . '/.vim/vim-addons'<br>
"exec 'set
runtimepath+='.vam_install_path.'/vim-addon-manager'<br>
<br>
if !isdirectory(vam_install_path.'/vim-addon-manager')
&& 1 == confirm("git clone VAM into
".vam_install_path."?","&Y\n&N")<br>
call confirm("Don't forget to check documentation in
(README*,doc/*.txt).")<br>
exec '!p='.shellescape(vam_install_path).';<br>
mkdir -p "$p" && cd "$p" && git clone
--depth 1 git://github.com/MarcWeber/vim-addon-manager.git'<br>
endif<br>
<br>
call
vam#ActivateAddons(["vim-addon-mw-utils","tlib","snipmate","snipmate-snippets","FindInNERDTree"],
{'auto_install' : 0})<br>
endf<br>
<br>
call SetupVAM()<br>
===<br>
<br>
</tt><tt>This is the Line </tt><tt>is what tells VAM to download
which packages:<br>
</tt><tt>"</tt><tt>call
vam#ActivateAddons(["vim-addon-mw-utils","tlib","snipmate","snipmate-snippets","FindInNERDTree"],
{'auto_install' : 0})</tt><tt>"<br>
<br>
VAM auto-checks Git Hub for new versions of these packages
periodically. You can't tell though, it's snappy.<br>
</tt><tt><br>
<br>
5) Open vim and begin work. <br>
<br>
It's pretty easy, it supports a lot of languages, and it's only
for vim. Happy scripting!<br>
<br>
</tt>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Talk to you soon,
Todd E Thomas
C: 515.778.6913
"It's a frail music knits the world together."
-Robert Dana
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On 11/07/2011 08:01 AM, Tim Wilson wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid:CAOTOMnY8Dh7uVAEGp7BMNpvrDQ1OaxTZ7rFOhvXVzEDqFBC=Kg@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Of course vim will win. They didn't make it a fair
fight. The emacs book is more expensive. Only those true
die-hard emacs fans will pay the premium price.<br>
<br>
Emacs gets a bad rap for loading slowly. Sure, if you're trying
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But at least you don't have to waste time getting in and out of
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<br>
There are times for both. I usually use emacs, but there are
times where I use vi/vim. My emacs does load a lot of stuff, so
that I can do a lot more. So in cases where I need a quick edit,
I'll use vi. But I prefer emacs for long edit sessions. I can do
WAY more (and faster) in my emacs setup than I can do in my vi
setup.<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Josh More
<span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Vim will win. It'll be able to shoot Emacs before Emacs has
finished loading.<br>
<br>
Then, in it's dying breaths, Emacs will attempt to shoot back,
make a typo and accidentally author a network scanner.<br>
<br>
-Josh<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
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