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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’ll second this suggestion. My son’s participating in this program and the advisors are local computer professionals or past students that are attending DMACC’s computer/network tech program. Experts are always welcome to teach and advise. They also *<b>always</b>* need equipment to break/fix/play with. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-- d.sloan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cialug-bounces@cialug.org [mailto:cialug-bounces@cialug.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>j.bengtson@mchsi.com<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 28, 2011 8:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> Central Iowa Linux Users Group<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Cialug] Volunteerism and stepping up a career<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Here's another good way to volunteer, and pad your resume at the same time. Each year ISU hosts a high school cyberdefense/robotics/game design competition...it's called IT-Olympics (http://www.it-adventures.org/itolympics.html), and it starts tomorrow. There are teams from high schools all over Iowa participating, and none of these high schools (that I know of) teach programming or network design and security. These kids either learn it on their own, or get help from volunteers in the IT community. Even if you don't know anything about securing a network, you probably know more than these kids do. Grab a book or go online, learn what you need, and find a high school that needs a mentor.<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: Josh More <br>To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <br>Sent: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 19:43:18 -0500 (CDT)<br>Subject: Re: [Cialug] Volunteerism and stepping up a career<br><br>I did not mean to focus specifically on grave sites... more to point out that if an employer is talking to two candidates with little experience and the question "what do you do in your spare time" arises, it could come down to three candidates:<br><br>1) I like to play video games and watch TV.<br>2) I run a Linux network at home, including a custom DVR server.<br>3) I built a website to track the graves of American soldiers since the Department of Defense was unable to do so and their families deserve to know where their loved ones lay.<br><br>Who do you think is going to get the job?<br><br>The point here is to find a way to practice your skills in public. We could all criticize the technology behind the website. I personally dislike the style chosen. However, all of those criticisms are outweighed by the fact that this kid saw a problem and solved it, publicly. He didn't over analyze or get stuck trying to decide what to do. He did it.<br><br>If you want a job in technology and you're in the "need experience to get experience" trap, this right here is how you get out of it.<br><br><br>Josh More | Senior Security Consultant - CISSP, GIAC-GSLC Gold, GIAC-GCIH<br>Alliance Technologies | www.AllianceTechnologies.net<br>400 Locust St., Suite 840 | Des Moines, IA 50309<br>515.245.7701 | 888.387.5670 x7701<br><br>Blog: Don't just blame the bad guys, it's your fault too<br>http://www.alliancetechnologies.net/blogs/morej<br><br>How are we doing? Let us know here:<br>http://www.alliancetechnologies.net/forms/alliance-technologies-feedback-survey<br><br>________________________________________<br>From: cialug-bounces@cialug.org [cialug-bounces@cialug.org] on behalf of Scott Prader [sprader@iastate.edu]<br>Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 19:33<br>To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group<br>Subject: Re: [Cialug] Volunteerism and stepping up a career<br><br>Getting anything converted from an old style to a digital style is<br>always full of challenges. People might think "well anyone can pop a<br>VHS tape into a converter and make a DVD", but it's not always that<br>simple, there are plenty of things that can go wrong when using an<br>off-the-shelf system like that. You need to have access to the tools<br>and software that allow you to make the proper modifications in the<br>meantime in order to produced a polished product. After all, who<br>wants to press 'play' on a digital recording and watch the blurry snow<br>that might be at the beginning and/or end of some tapes?<br><br>But maybe it's not cemeteries that we should be focusing on, since<br>much of that seems to have been done already:<br>http://iowagravestones.org but they do accept photos, so perhaps there<br>are still some gaps to be filled and other pathways to be found.<br><br>-Scott<br><br>On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Josh More<br>wrote:<br>> Several times each year, the topic comes up within the group of "how do I<br>> get a career doing _____"? We always give the same advice: work hard,<br>> study, volunteer your time if you can't find an entry level position. What<br>> we've generally not done is give concrete examples of what that means. So<br>> here is one that I just ran across:<br>><br>> http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-arlington-graves-20110427,0,1623607.story?page=1<br>><br>> I'm not interested in having a discussion about the politics surrounding the<br>> issue. Instead, I want those of you who talk about wanting something better<br>> career-wise to look at what this kid did. He found a problem, found a<br>> solution and devoted a significant portion of his life towards fixing it.<br>> He lucked out in getting the media coverage, but either way, he created a<br>> significant career point for himself out of nothing.<br>><br>> This is what we mean when we say "find a project".<br>><br>><br>><br>> Josh More | Senior Security Consultant - CISSP, GIAC-GSLC Gold, GIAC-GCIH<br>> Alliance Technologies | www.AllianceTechnologies.net<br>> 400 Locust St., Suite 840 | Des Moines, IA 50309<br>> 515.245.7701 | 888.387.5670 x7701<br>><br>> Blog: Don't just blame the bad guys, it's your fault too<br>> http://www.alliancetechnologies.net/blogs/morej<br>><br>> How are we doing? Let us know here:<br>> http://www.alliancetechnologies.net/forms/alliance-technologies-feedback-survey<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Cialug mailing list<br>> Cialug@cialug.org<br>> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug<br>><br>><br><br><br><br>--<br>Scott Prader<br>Undergraduate Electrical Engineer<br>CARC, SSCL<br>sprader@iastate.edu<br>_______________________________________________<br>Cialug mailing list<br>Cialug@cialug.org<br>http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug<br>_______________________________________________<br>Cialug mailing list<br>Cialug@cialug.org<br>http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>